Crash on resized lots at 7PM -- any ideas?
ebonyspiral:
Quote from: pbox
To me it looks like roofs are part of the equation. I tested the following in the base game:
Now that you mention it, I did notice that the roofs on my terrace of BackDoor Lane 42s don't all quite look the same. Nothing much, just some are slightly higher than others and I think the piece of wall under the roof slope wasn't showing. This is all just in neighbourhood view however and with my graphics card everything tends to look a bit lopsided.
If roofs are involved though, would the flat roof (is it just flooring?) be able to cause a problem, as I've still had crashes with BlueTerrace?
Okay, just done quite a bit more testing. To be honest, it's only getting me more confused, especially after reading so much other feedback!
However, here's what I experienced.
I removed all downloads and deleted groups.cache to start with. I did leave in noteleportpuddles though. Just incase. ;)
My first attempt ended up with a crash straight away - BlueTerrace lot.
>Place lot >CAS >Enter empty lot and attempt to save = crash.
Restarted...
This time I tried several lots - BlueTerrace, DocDoofus lot and BackDoor Lane 42. I tried different combinations to placing lots and using CAS because I thought the order might be a factor (CAS sims seem to be involved in more crashes than Maxis/pre existing sims do, from what I've gathered. Even just using CAS itself).
>Place lot >Open/save while empty >CAS >Move in/Play
>Place lot >CAS >Open and save while empty >Move in/Play
>CAS >Place lot >Open and save while empty >Move in/Play
But none of these produced crashes. I tried a lot but could do no wrong.
Sooo... the only thing I can think that was different, was that on my first attempt I had only just installed BlueTerrace and there were some files in the teleport folder. I couldn't remember if I ought to remove them myself. After the crash and before I reloaded however the folder was empty.
I quit and reloaded after removing nopuddleteleport (determined not to completely give up on the bugger) and successfully managed 2 crashes in a row.
BackDoor 42 >Place >CAS >Open/save while empty = crash
Then...
BackDoor 42 >Place >Open/save while empty >CAS >Move in/play >7pm = crash
However, after restarting again, I could not get another crash. Even doing exactly the same which triggered the last 2 crashes.
My head hurts and I don't know what significance this feedback is... :P
What I will do next, is try out my own lots. Crash or no crash, I love what Lot Expander can do and the terrace houses look so fantastic! I hope everyone still enjoys these lots regardless. :)
Quote from: baratron
Um... either I'm missing something really obvious, or we've all been missing something really obvious
I'd love it if we all had to have a big "D'OH" moment. ;D
pbox:
Quote from: ebonyspiral
Now that you mention it, I did notice that the roofs on my terrace of BackDoor Lane 42s don't all quite look the same. Nothing much, just some are slightly higher than others and I think the piece of wall under the roof slope wasn't showing.
This is all just in neighbourhood view however and with my graphics card everything tends to look a bit lopsided.
Yes, roofs often look a bit odd in neighbourhood view. The game makes low-resolution models of every lot (the "lot impostors") that are shown in hood view and from neighbouring houses, so that it doesn't have to actually render of all those houses .. these impostors look less than perfect in many respects.
Quote from: ebonyspiral
>Place lot >CAS >Enter empty lot and attempt to save = crash.
Not sure what you mean with "CAS" here .. you went to make a sim, but didn't move them in (left them in the bin instead)?
Quote from: ebonyspiral
(CAS sims seem to be involved in more crashes than Maxis/pre existing sims do, from what I've gathered. Even just using CAS itself).
So far, *only* lots with freshly moved in CAS sims have been crashing.
Doc Doofus:
Here is another shrunk 1x1 BV-created house for you to test.
Two bedrooms, furnished, a basement, one custom ladder by Targa. Price = Cheap.
http://webpages.charter.net/ronunderwood/Doof%201x1%202-bed%20basement.Sims2Pack
And from the same website (mine), here's some classical music to test your speakers with. A short segment from Mahler's 8th Symphony, (my daughter's favorite).
http://webpages.charter.net/ronunderwood/Mahler,%20Sym%208%20in%20Eb%20-%20209%20Blicket%20auf%20zum%20Retterblick.mp3
Also, a USEFUL OBSERVATION:
You can place windows on the OUTSIDE of your lot, facing the shrunken sides, and they will look right, as long as you place them with the green placement-arrow pointing INSIDE, not OUTSIDE. If the placement arrow is pointing outside, when you place it, you will only have a blank hole in the wall after it's shrunk, and even the neighborhood view (imposters) will look funny. Place the arrow pointing INSIDE and the neighborhood view will be totally fine.
ebonyspiral:
Quote from: pbox on 2007 November 01, 01:44:08
Quote from: ebonyspiral
>Place lot >CAS >Enter empty lot and attempt to save = crash.
Not sure what you mean with "CAS" here .. you went to make a sim, but didn't move them in (left them in the bin instead)?
I left them in the bin temporarily while I entered the still empty lot and checked to see if I could alter and save it. Quite often it would crash when I attempted this save and that was without the day/night change.
I thought that the order in which I was placing a lot, entering it while empty and using CAS might have some significance. I've only ever had an empty lot crash on saving when I used CAS between placing the lot and entering it while still empty.
Quote from: pbox
So far, *only* lots with freshly moved in CAS sims have been crashing.
I've been reading through so many posts here and on MTS2, I'd lost track. :)
Quinctia:
So I took out my downloads...crashing. Put back in just the MATY hacks...crashing. Put back in the other hack folder...crashing.
I have no idea. Nothing else I have should affect game behaviors.
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