Personality and Enthusiasm
J. M. Pescado:
The main issue with Sim-elders is basically that they're boring. They're like crippled versions of adults with lousier motive decay, and gain no real perks whatosever. They should have had a whole host of interactions that we have in REAL life, like ranting about how in MY day, we had to WALK to school, through the snow, uphill and against the wind both ways, while the Japanese would try to bomb us, and turning the hose on those DAMN KIDS who won't GET OFF MY LAWN! EAxis sucks all the FUN out of it, leaving elders as simply crippled versions of adults.
Liz:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2008 October 05, 17:11:43
EAxis sucks all the FUN out of it, leaving elders as simply crippled versions of adults.
That is *precisely* it. There are no special interactions with grandkids, no "let me bore you with pictures of my spawn's spawn" interactions, no elders-only restaurant discounts...
They basically take the adults, smoonch their spines, give the women saddlebags & floppy breasts, wreak havoc with their Needs, cut their career prospects off at the knees, and then say, "Here - yes, HERE! - is where you get to spend all your bonus days!"
Unmodded (elder jobs & Inge's 'elders sleep through night'), I would have sent these farts off with the Sunset Squad ages ago. As it is, they're convenient babysitters and, whoopee, they can Encourage more efficiently, but the abruptness with which your vibrant Adults suddenly fall to pieces is thoroughly off-putting and lame. The fact that they can retire if they want might be a 'benefit' in the designers' eyes, but that just leaves them more time to sit around needing to pee.
Inge:
I probably will sweep through updating more stuff, now that the last EP is out and it isn't all so demoralising!
coralleane:
Quote from: Liz on 2008 October 05, 17:25:40
no "let me bore you with pictures of my spawn's spawn" interactions,
I mostly stick to bug and annoyance fixing hacks, but I'd download *that* if someone could make it.. since I've not actually got around to ordering a vacation photo album yet, I'm not quite sure how it works, but it'd be funny if someone could use that to make a "Grandkids album" that only elders with grandchildren could order, and whenever anyone was around they'd have an option to "Show Off Album to.."
Dopp:
Quote from: Sagana on 2008 October 05, 12:52:56
Quote from: Dopp on 2008 October 04, 14:27:49
Maybe the question is really how much personality affects enthusiasm compared to relevant skill, one true hobby, interests and equipment/action used.
That doesn't make any sense.
1. Does personality affect the rate at which a Sim gains hobby enthusiasm?
2. Does it have a significant effect? For example, if Sports is affected by Active and Grouchy personality, will a Lazy, Nice Sim find it impossible/very hard to gain enthusiasm in Sports?
Hobbies seem rather restricted if Sims need a certain personality type in order to do well at them. Can't have a neat Artist, for example, or a serious Chessmaster.
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