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Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2010-06-29
« on: 2008 September 07, 18:06:03 »
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Just like with normal paintings you need to use Ctrl+Alt or moveobjects on to place more than one on the same wall. Naturally, Apartment Life is required.
Please try out and let me know of any problems.

(additional attachment in post below)

UPDATE 2008-09-08: New version of easelpainting hack attached. Remove the old one.

UPDATE 2008-09-15: More stuff added, see this post.

UPDATE 2008-11-21 Three more packages here
Update 2: Mirrors

UPDATE 2008-11-26 Kids activity table drawing added.


UPDATE 2008-12-11 Collected all files in a rar file, and removed the single downloads. No new hacks added.
Included:
Wall-hung signs
Easel painting
Photos - Photobooth, Uni cam, BV cam
Curtains
Big and small wall TV's
Wall mounted fish
FT craftables - potholder, plate, kids drawing
Deeds
BV maps
Speakers
Mirrors (most)
Alarms
Wall vents


UPDATE 2009-01-07: Added Bon Voyage souvenir shelf to package.

UPDATE 2010-06-29: Added fix for the shiftable curtains, made by leesester. See this post.

* ALL_shiftables_20100629.rar (6.73 KB - downloaded 5843 times.)
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« Reply #1 on: 2008 September 07, 18:06:36 »
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« Reply #2 on: 2008 September 07, 20:03:05 »
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Have you modified the originals or are these clones? 
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« Reply #3 on: 2008 September 07, 20:32:47 »
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Have you modified the originals or are these clones? 

They're modifications, not clones.
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« Reply #4 on: 2008 September 07, 22:51:14 »
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Thanks a bunch.  I would rather have mods than extra copies of stuff cluttering up stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: 2008 September 07, 23:09:23 »
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From limited testing these seem to work fine. Thank you!

Is there anywhere I can read up on how to modify the BHAVs myself? There are a few custom objects I've been itching to move up and down walls.
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« Reply #6 on: 2008 September 08, 01:52:20 »
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I was wondering how long it would be before people started producing mods for the wall stuff Maxis missed.   Grin
These are great.   Would you consider or is it even possible to do this with the mirrors?  I was so looking forward to
be able to move the mirrors and for whatever reason they cannot be moved like paintings can. 
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« Reply #7 on: 2008 September 08, 01:54:04 »
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From limited testing these seem to work fine. Thank you!

Is there anywhere I can read up on how to modify the BHAVs myself? There are a few custom objects I've been itching to move up and down walls.

In this case I just compared the movable stuff to the unmovable to see what the difference was. Turned out to be a simple flag.

If you want to do it yourself, first you need the QA version of SimPE.

If it's just a single object you want to change you just set the flag at the end of the init (If you don't know how to do this I would think most basic bhav tutorials over at MTS2 cover it). These are the values:


In the case of the signs I didn't have to change them one by one as they shared a semi-global init.
For the photos I changed another function as I also had to clear the flag for when they change to table-placed objects.

I was wondering how long it would be before people started producing mods for the wall stuff Maxis missed.   Grin
These are great.   Would you consider or is it even possible to do this with the mirrors?  I was so looking forward to
be able to move the mirrors and for whatever reason they cannot be moved like paintings can. 

I made an attempt to change the mirrors via semi-global, and it worked for some, while others snapped to one position and then wouldn't move. I haven't checked them out individually to see if I could find the problem yet.




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« Reply #8 on: 2008 September 08, 17:34:28 »
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Thanks for the instructions, this is the first time I've ever edited BHAVs and the objects I've tested work perfectly.
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« Reply #9 on: 2008 September 08, 18:16:01 »
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How about the wall mirrors, would this kind of thing be possible for those too?
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« Reply #10 on: 2008 September 08, 18:57:55 »
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Only thing on your list I've tried this with is paintings done in game.  The new paintings --ones made after I installed the mod-- shift with no problems.  Paintings that were already hung don't.

Don't know whether this can be fixed, but I thought I'd mention it.
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« Reply #11 on: 2008 September 08, 19:43:09 »
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Only thing on your list I've tried this with is paintings done in game.  The new paintings --ones made after I installed the mod-- shift with no problems.  Paintings that were already hung don't.

Don't know whether this can be fixed, but I thought I'd mention it.

Ah, I never tried that, I'll check it out.
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« Reply #12 on: 2008 September 08, 20:40:37 »
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Thank you for this. It's ridiculous how they missed these things out. It's nice to not have my signs clipping into roofs. I assume they haven't done mirrors and the TV because of animation problems. Still... it would be nice to be able to move them at least a little (to prevent clipping into fireplaces and such).
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« Reply #13 on: 2008 September 08, 21:58:02 »
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New package for easel paintings in the first post that I hope work for both old and new paintings.
Old photos seem to work already in my tests, the signs may need to be replaced if they are on a lot that have been loaded and saved in AL without the hack. Old lots with signs that I just installed or placed picks up the change though.

Thank you for this. It's ridiculous how they missed these things out. It's nice to not have my signs clipping into roofs. I assume they haven't done mirrors and the TV because of animation problems. Still... it would be nice to be able to move them at least a little (to prevent clipping into fireplaces and such).

Yeah, when I tested the mirrors it did look pretty silly when they practiced romance in front of an empty wall with the mirror above their heads.
I'm still looking in too why some mirrors don't work as they should.
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« Reply #14 on: 2008 September 08, 23:13:38 »
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Thanks, will the painting fix work properly with FT? Because they edited the paintings  to enable framing them.
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« Reply #15 on: 2008 September 08, 23:35:22 »
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Thanks, will the painting fix work properly with FT? Because they edited the paintings  to enable framing them.

Yes, works fine with or without framing.
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« Reply #16 on: 2008 September 14, 02:02:50 »
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I just noticed that the ctrl+alt wall decoration tool works for walls lights as well. I tested it out some and I found out that at least two lights have not been made shiftable (this is with all EPs and a good deal of SPs installed). The fan shaped light and the 'wave' light from the base game cannot shift while the others can. I find this interesting since all of the EP lights can be shifted easily and some, such as the lights from nightlife, have varying shades of light coming from them. Does anyone know why these don't work?
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« Reply #17 on: 2008 September 14, 06:25:59 »
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ugg, just when you thought this was over Goggalor there's more to it...

It appears that EAxis had the nerve to not make the fish shiftable, which is unfortunate, because why waste all that wall space for only 1 fish? I also found that the Maxed enthusiasm plaque can't be shifted either.  Undecided

I absolutely love the hack though. Thank you!

ETA: Just found out that the plates from FreeTime can't be shifted either... EAxis has done such a shotty job, as always.
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« Reply #18 on: 2008 September 14, 17:32:21 »
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Hehe, of course there's more; there's always more with EAxis.
Good to know what though as it is so easy to forget what goes on the wall.

I've had no luck with the mirrors. I suppose I could change the ones that do work individually if there's interest for that.
Will check out the fish, plaque and TV.
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« Reply #19 on: 2008 September 14, 20:50:26 »
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Anyone started work on curtains?  And is there any way to adjust all of them at once, or is it each one?
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« Reply #20 on: 2008 September 15, 05:14:43 »
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Another batch of shiftables:

Curtains
Wall TV
The wallmounted fish from seasons
Deed to business/vacation lot + BV maps (possibly this affects other items as well as it is a semi-global function, these are the ones I spotted though)
Craftable plate + potholder  (the plate only shifts upwards from it's original position)

Hopefully coming up later:
Fire/burglar alarm
bug collection box
craftable OFB kite

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I also found that the Maxed enthusiasm plaque can't be shifted either.  Undecided
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Are you sure? They move in my game without any hacks.

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« Reply #21 on: 2008 September 15, 05:37:46 »
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Another batch of shiftables:

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I also found that the Maxed enthusiasm plaque can't be shifted either.  Undecided
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Are you sure? They move in my game without any hacks.



Thank you for all those upcoming objects!

Mhrmm, well actually, it appears that any plaque you get, at least in my game, before AL was installed that the enthusiasm plaques can't be shifted. However any enthusiasm plaque you get after AL is installed is shiftable. *Shrugs* The same also happens if there are any wall hangings that are left in the inventory. Have no idea at all really, why that would be a problem.   
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« Reply #22 on: 2008 September 15, 06:33:46 »
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You could try to hang it and force error. (With boolprop testingcheatsenabled set to true; shiftclick plaque and force error. In the dialog that comes up, choose reset.) Then see if you can move it.
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« Reply #23 on: 2008 September 16, 02:36:58 »
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You could try to hang it and force error. (With boolprop testingcheatsenabled set to true; shiftclick plaque and force error. In the dialog that comes up, choose reset.) Then see if you can move it.

Heh, did not think of that. I sometimes forget I have the power to boolprop. *chuckles*
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« Reply #24 on: 2008 September 16, 07:41:02 »
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Heh, didn't think of that. I sometimes forget I have the power to boolprop. *chuckles*

It's generally called by its correct name, 'debug mode', here. Boolean properties are only one of the things that may be set in debug mode.
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