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Title: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2010-06-29
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 07, 16:06:03
(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r427/Goggalor_Pics/AL/bbe39783.jpg)
Just like with normal paintings you need to use Ctrl+Alt or moveobjects on to place more than one on the same wall. Naturally, Apartment Life is required.
Please try out and let me know of any problems.

(additional attachment in post below)

UPDATE 2008-09-08: New version of easelpainting hack attached. Remove the old one.

UPDATE 2008-09-15: More stuff added, see this post (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12998.msg373270.html#msg373270).

UPDATE 2008-11-21 Three more packages here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12998.msg391128.html#msg391128)
Update 2: Mirrors (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12998.msg391251.html#msg391251)

UPDATE 2008-11-26 Kids activity table drawing added (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12998.msg392863.html#msg392863).


UPDATE 2008-12-11 Collected all files in a rar file, and removed the single downloads. No new hacks added.
Included:
Wall-hung signs
Easel painting
Photos - Photobooth, Uni cam, BV cam
Curtains
Big and small wall TV's
Wall mounted fish
FT craftables - potholder, plate, kids drawing
Deeds
BV maps
Speakers
Mirrors (most)
Alarms
Wall vents


UPDATE 2009-01-07: Added Bon Voyage souvenir shelf to package.

UPDATE 2010-06-29: Added fix for the shiftable curtains, made by leesester. See this post (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12998.msg541955.html#msg541955).


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 07, 16:06:36
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Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: jriggs on 2008 September 07, 18:03:05
Have you modified the originals or are these clones? 


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 07, 18:32:47
Have you modified the originals or are these clones? 

They're modifications, not clones.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: jriggs on 2008 September 07, 20:51:14
Thanks a bunch.  I would rather have mods than extra copies of stuff cluttering up stuff.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Clara on 2008 September 07, 21:09:23
From limited testing these seem to work fine. Thank you!

Is there anywhere I can read up on how to modify the BHAVs myself? There are a few custom objects I've been itching to move up and down walls.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Cerridwen on 2008 September 07, 23:52:20
I was wondering how long it would be before people started producing mods for the wall stuff Maxis missed.   ;D
These are great.   Would you consider or is it even possible to do this with the mirrors?  I was so looking forward to
be able to move the mirrors and for whatever reason they cannot be moved like paintings can. 


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 07, 23:54:04
From limited testing these seem to work fine. Thank you!

Is there anywhere I can read up on how to modify the BHAVs myself? There are a few custom objects I've been itching to move up and down walls.

In this case I just compared the movable stuff to the unmovable to see what the difference was. Turned out to be a simple flag.

If you want to do it yourself, first you need the QA version of SimPE.

If it's just a single object you want to change you just set the flag at the end of the init (If you don't know how to do this I would think most basic bhav tutorials over at MTS2 cover it). These are the values:
(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r427/Goggalor_Pics/2a5215d5.png)

In the case of the signs I didn't have to change them one by one as they shared a semi-global init.
For the photos I changed another function as I also had to clear the flag for when they change to table-placed objects.

I was wondering how long it would be before people started producing mods for the wall stuff Maxis missed.   ;D
These are great.   Would you consider or is it even possible to do this with the mirrors?  I was so looking forward to
be able to move the mirrors and for whatever reason they cannot be moved like paintings can. 

I made an attempt to change the mirrors via semi-global, and it worked for some, while others snapped to one position and then wouldn't move. I haven't checked them out individually to see if I could find the problem yet.






Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Clara on 2008 September 08, 15:34:28
Thanks for the instructions, this is the first time I've ever edited BHAVs and the objects I've tested work perfectly.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: tippytoeturnip on 2008 September 08, 16:16:01
How about the wall mirrors, would this kind of thing be possible for those too?


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Lerf on 2008 September 08, 16:57:55
Only thing on your list I've tried this with is paintings done in game.  The new paintings --ones made after I installed the mod-- shift with no problems.  Paintings that were already hung don't.

Don't know whether this can be fixed, but I thought I'd mention it.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 08, 17:43:09
Only thing on your list I've tried this with is paintings done in game.  The new paintings --ones made after I installed the mod-- shift with no problems.  Paintings that were already hung don't.

Don't know whether this can be fixed, but I thought I'd mention it.

Ah, I never tried that, I'll check it out.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Alex on 2008 September 08, 18:40:37
Thank you for this. It's ridiculous how they missed these things out. It's nice to not have my signs clipping into roofs. I assume they haven't done mirrors and the TV because of animation problems. Still... it would be nice to be able to move them at least a little (to prevent clipping into fireplaces and such).


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 08, 19:58:02
New package for easel paintings in the first post that I hope work for both old and new paintings.
Old photos seem to work already in my tests, the signs may need to be replaced if they are on a lot that have been loaded and saved in AL without the hack. Old lots with signs that I just installed or placed picks up the change though.

Thank you for this. It's ridiculous how they missed these things out. It's nice to not have my signs clipping into roofs. I assume they haven't done mirrors and the TV because of animation problems. Still... it would be nice to be able to move them at least a little (to prevent clipping into fireplaces and such).

Yeah, when I tested the mirrors it did look pretty silly when they practiced romance in front of an empty wall with the mirror above their heads.
I'm still looking in too why some mirrors don't work as they should.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: kazebird on 2008 September 08, 21:13:38
Thanks, will the painting fix work properly with FT? Because they edited the paintings  to enable framing them.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 08, 21:35:22
Thanks, will the painting fix work properly with FT? Because they edited the paintings  to enable framing them.

Yes, works fine with or without framing.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: titanicbrittanic on 2008 September 14, 00:02:50
I just noticed that the ctrl+alt wall decoration tool works for walls lights as well. I tested it out some and I found out that at least two lights have not been made shiftable (this is with all EPs and a good deal of SPs installed). The fan shaped light and the 'wave' light from the base game cannot shift while the others can. I find this interesting since all of the EP lights can be shifted easily and some, such as the lights from nightlife, have varying shades of light coming from them. Does anyone know why these don't work?


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: fway on 2008 September 14, 04:25:59
ugg, just when you thought this was over Goggalor there's more to it...

It appears that EAxis had the nerve to not make the fish shiftable, which is unfortunate, because why waste all that wall space for only 1 fish? I also found that the Maxed enthusiasm plaque can't be shifted either.  :-\

I absolutely love the hack though. Thank you!

ETA: Just found out that the plates from FreeTime can't be shifted either... EAxis has done such a shotty job, as always.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 14, 15:32:21
Hehe, of course there's more; there's always more with EAxis.
Good to know what though as it is so easy to forget what goes on the wall.

I've had no luck with the mirrors. I suppose I could change the ones that do work individually if there's interest for that.
Will check out the fish, plaque and TV.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Soggy Fox on 2008 September 14, 18:50:26
Anyone started work on curtains?  And is there any way to adjust all of them at once, or is it each one?


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 15, 03:14:43
Another batch of shiftables:

Curtains
Wall TV
The wallmounted fish from seasons
Deed to business/vacation lot + BV maps (possibly this affects other items as well as it is a semi-global function, these are the ones I spotted though)
Craftable plate + potholder  (the plate only shifts upwards from it's original position)

Hopefully coming up later:
Fire/burglar alarm
bug collection box
craftable OFB kite

...
I also found that the Maxed enthusiasm plaque can't be shifted either.  :-\
...

Are you sure? They move in my game without any hacks.



Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: fway on 2008 September 15, 03:37:46
Another batch of shiftables:

<snip>

...
I also found that the Maxed enthusiasm plaque can't be shifted either.  :-\
...

Are you sure? They move in my game without any hacks.



Thank you for all those upcoming objects!

Mhrmm, well actually, it appears that any plaque you get, at least in my game, before AL was installed that the enthusiasm plaques can't be shifted. However any enthusiasm plaque you get after AL is installed is shiftable. *Shrugs* The same also happens if there are any wall hangings that are left in the inventory. Have no idea at all really, why that would be a problem.   


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 September 15, 04:33:46
You could try to hang it and force error. (With boolprop testingcheatsenabled set to true; shiftclick plaque and force error. In the dialog that comes up, choose reset.) Then see if you can move it.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: fway on 2008 September 16, 00:36:58
You could try to hang it and force error. (With boolprop testingcheatsenabled set to true; shiftclick plaque and force error. In the dialog that comes up, choose reset.) Then see if you can move it.

Heh, did not think of that. I sometimes forget I have the power to boolprop. *chuckles*


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: witch on 2008 September 16, 05:41:02
Heh, didn't think of that. I sometimes forget I have the power to boolprop. *chuckles*

It's generally called by its correct name, 'debug mode', here. Boolean properties are only one of the things that may be set in debug mode.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL)
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 November 21, 17:40:23
Sorry about the long pause. Here are three more shiftables:

Alarms: burglar/fire
Speakers: All the wallspeakers. ( I don't think there's a problem with having these inits as one package even if one doesn't have the corresponding  EP's. If I'm wrong just tell me and I'll split them up.)
Wall vents: They were floor objects, besides the shifting I changed them to go on walls.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 21, 17:47:17
The only mirrors I would have a real interest in being movable would be the ones that clip into counters. Some of my favorite mirrors can't be placed over counters. Shame really.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 November 21, 18:56:52
The only mirrors I would have a real interest in being movable would be the ones that clip into counters. Some of my favorite mirrors can't be placed over counters. Shame really.

I'm in the process of changing the properly functioning ones, it'll be done later today. Except if there's new ones in Mansion & Garden of course.

Think you'll be doing the other wall mounted TV? I noticed that can't move either.

Ah,  the swingarm one, forgot about that. Here it is.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 November 21, 21:37:25
Well, here's the mirror hack.

I decided to enable shifting for all wallmirrors through a semi-global, and then disable it for the ones that didn't work as they should.

This means that most CC mirrors will be shiftable as well. However this also means that if there are custom mirrors cloned from the problematic ones they might jump and snap into a locked position when you try to shift them. In that case just rebuy it.

List of the non-working ones (including the three full-wall mirrors):

Deceptico Plano Glass  -UNI
Modart Noudeco 1&3 tile  -NL
Bigger is Better  -NL
Functional Eloquence  -OFB
The Eleafquent Mirror  -AL
Charming Reflections -Glamour Life
Fancy Sycophancy -Glamour Life
KRABB Mirror (the small one) -IKEA


The taller mirrors from IKEA stuff pack only move slightly up and down.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 21, 22:07:12
Cheers!  :D


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Orikes on 2008 November 22, 20:03:42
These are all awesome, Goggalor. I love the feature and it boggles my mind they didn't enable it for anything that goes on a wall in the first place.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Menaceman on 2008 November 25, 18:14:54
Cheers for the wall vents Goggalor. They should be much easier to place now.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Gwill on 2008 November 25, 20:10:25
I know it's a tiny and silly thing, but the toddler drawings from the FT play table are also unshiftable.  They'd be so cute to plaster walls with.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21 Now with mirro
Post by: BastDawn on 2008 November 26, 01:35:55
Ooh, I'll third that request.  I have a babby-crazy family sim who needs new wallpaper.   :D


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-21 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 November 26, 13:40:56
Ah, of course, the drawing. I wonder how many more things I've forgotten about  :)


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: ShadySentinel on 2008 December 02, 20:55:00
When positioning wall lights lower on a wall, do they light up properly with this mod? It irks me that I can't have lights that stair-step up with staircases since the ones that are lower are basically just dark blobs. :P


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 December 03, 03:35:18
When positioning wall lights lower on a wall, do they light up properly with this mod? It irks me that I can't have lights that stair-step up with staircases since the ones that are lower are basically just dark blobs. :P

No, sorry, this doesn't do anything to the lights. Some of the items here have that problem of going dark when moved as well. I wouldn't know how to fix it either or if it's even possible.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: rhondacathey on 2008 December 09, 18:19:26
 I think this is fantastic!! I'm having a problem downloading the files though...maybe someone can help me...When I click to download the file.. I click open..then I get a message wanting to know which program I want to use to open the file..I have winrar and also the Sims2 Clean Pack Installer..when I try with winrar I get a message that the files are damaged and it cannot open. When I try with the clean pack installer, there are no files to install...is there something I'm doing wrong?  :-\  I really would love to have these mods in my game!


                                                                                                        Thank you So Much!!
                                                                                                               Big Hugs,
                                                                                                            Rhonda Cathey


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 December 09, 18:56:11
You don't have to open the files at all, just save them and copy to your downlods folder.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: CountessCrazy on 2008 December 10, 00:22:25
Right, they are package files, not zip or rar  :)


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: witch on 2008 December 10, 05:28:13

                                                                                                        Thank you So Much!!
                                                                                                               Big Hugs,
                                                                                                            Rhonda Cathey

Rhonda, Rhonda, Rhonda. This is a forum, not a letter writing class. We know who you are, we can see your username. We do not like thanks, we do not like hugs. Please take this as a pleasant warning.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: tunaisafish on 2008 December 11, 01:23:05
Ok, so that's 12 files so far.  Is there any more to come? :)

A zip in the first post would be good.
And some of these files have 600+ downloads!
Looks like a "Taster's Choice" to me.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-11-26 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Goggalor on 2008 December 11, 06:31:46
Ok, so that's 12 files so far.  Is there any more to come? :)

A zip in the first post would be good.
And some of these files have 600+ downloads!
Looks like a "Taster's Choice" to me.

There were a couple of items I had issues with but I have pretty much given up on those for now, so hopefully not any more. Or were you thinking of anything I have overlooked?

Yeah, collecting them in an archive is probably a good idea now. Will do.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirrors.
Post by: tunaisafish on 2008 December 11, 08:37:05
No, I didn't have any in mind.  Very thorough.

* tuna nabs the archive from the first post


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirrors.
Post by: ettenan on 2009 January 04, 15:38:48
Is there a chance windows could be made shiftable? Some of them clip into the roofs at the top, or are just too low...just asking... :)


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirrors.
Post by: kazebird on 2009 January 05, 02:02:14
The way they make holes in the wall, would make me believe it would glitch up when tried.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirro
Post by: Ravenwings on 2009 January 05, 02:46:45
The way they make holes in the wall, would make me believe it would glitch up when tried.

Aren't holes made by wallmasks? No reason why the wallmask can't just shift along with the window mesh. Unless the two are more separate than I'm thinking. It's been a long time since I've tinkered with creating anything, and I never tried windows.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Goggalor on 2009 January 06, 12:53:10
I haven't tried it, but I doubt the wallmask can move since it's applied to the whole area of the wall. I'll make an attempt anyway as it's not hard and it would be very useful.

EDIT: Like I thought, the wallmask stays in place.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirrors.
Post by: sleep on 2009 January 07, 01:35:49
Thanks for these updates.

The souveneir shelf ("Shelf of Glory"?) doesn't shift either. I always think it's too low, and hoped this would be fixed with AL. It isn't, in case you'd like to add it to your list.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirrors.
Post by: ettenan on 2009 January 07, 03:17:45
Thanks for trying the windows.  I appreciate it! ;D


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2008-12-11 Now with mirrors.
Post by: Goggalor on 2009 January 07, 17:49:07
Thanks for these updates.

The souveneir shelf ("Shelf of Glory"?) doesn't shift either. I always think it's too low, and hoped this would be fixed with AL. It isn't, in case you'd like to add it to your list.

Added the shelf to first post.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2009-01-07
Post by: sleep on 2009 January 08, 03:58:54
Wow, that was fast. Thanks for the update.


Title: Re: Shiftable signs, paintings and photos (AL) UPDATED 2010-06-29
Post by: Goggalor on 2010 June 28, 22:47:30
I've updated the archive in the first post with a curtain fix by leesester (http://www.modthesims.info/member.php?u=2168990), sent to me by fanseelamb (http://www.modthesims.info/member.php?u=117050) (Thanks guys!). Here's what she wrote about it:

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It was a bit of a strange bug - when the curtains were placed over a table with booth seating, sims couldn't sit in the seats next to the windows. [...]  Curtains already on the lot must be deleted and re-bought for the fix to take effect.  It also fixes a bug where the curtains couldn't be placed over toilets, and perhaps some other objects.

I'll also add it to this post if you don't want to re-download the rar. Just replace shiftcurtain.package with this file.