Crash on resized lots at 7PM -- any ideas?
Simsample:
Baratron- is your problem with the 'filled in' windows different to what I described with the Specter house? I must say I've only ever encountered this with some obstruction to normal window placement. Interesting!
Pbox: More testing, I found I can sometimes make the game crash (inhabited) by going into night mode in build or buy mode, however this is inconsistent. I've managed to ascertain that the only times I have made this crash occur is when I've hit build mode (or buy) and then the day/night toggle immediately- if I browse the catalogs first then it doesn't seem to happen. I wonder if my previous crash on saving was actually caused by the transition back to day mode that occurs when hitting the (...) button? Just to clarify, because I got all muddled up last time, this is on your lots, inhabited under the following conditions: not saved and with CAS sims (I haven't made it happen with Maxis bin sims yet). It still remains that the only consistent crash I can cause is at 18:59 with CAS sims, and that if I save the game, or save the lot uninhabited before moving the sim in, no crash occurs. I hope this makes sense, I'm not good at explaining!
Mootilda, the work you've done on the lot expander is excellent! What you are saying about the lot information being changed to the correct game version upon save would definitely fit with what people are finding here.
pbox:
Hello again :)
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I have 2 hours in which to play around with different hack configurations and see if I can locate the factor which makes Plasticbox's lot stable on my computer.
Congrats on your newfound crashingness. Waiting with bated breath on test results regarding your hacks. It would be so cool if it turned out that there already *is* a fix for this mess. Wish I could do some playtesting myself (I've a bit of a bad conscience actually, everyone else is doing all the work and I just come here and read stuff) -- maybe on Thursday, then we've a holiday here.
If anyone who doesn't crash and has hacks in their game, could test once again with no hacks, that might yield some interesting results. I'll try the opposite on Thursday (I use a ton of hacks normally, but not for playtesting lots) unless things change/clear up in the meantime.
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I found I can sometimes make the game crash (inhabited) by going into night mode in build or buy mode, however this is inconsistent. I've managed to ascertain that the only times I have made this crash occur is when I've hit build mode (or buy) and then the day/night toggle immediately- if I browse the catalogs first then it doesn't seem to happen.
This could be interesting .. in particular the catalogue browsing part. Although it's only "black box" kind of interesting to me right now .. no idea what this means, but it might mean something.
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The other one that has crashed...Aelflaed's...does it also have a basement?
No. No foundation either.
Quote from: MadameMim
Running basegame I just crashed my own 1x1 lot creation. I've had no problems with my other shrunken lots, but this is the first of my 1x1's I've played.
With "my other shrunken lots", you mean lots larger than 1x1 .. correct? Are they wider, or longer? Or both?
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So I have some more silly questions - are all the crashing lots shrunk in the same direction?
One of my lots has sun from back left, the other two from front right. -> No.
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Are they all the same size? Perhaps it is the truncation of the lot to 1x1 specifically that is buggy. Or the shrinkage of the back of the lot with mult-story buildings = long shadows.
Not same size. My lots are only shrunk left and right, not back.
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I have another lot that I have played for multiple generations. One of the Sims, an adult Twikki native Sim (Cara Nanale) that had joined the family by marriage, was getting old, so I moved her out of the house. I decided to move her into Schubert's old lot, the one he had vacated without problem before moving to the new Backdoor 42. Moving Schubert out had reduced the price by about 7000 Simoleans. I moved Cara Nanale from the Sim bin into the recently vacated Backdoor 42. KEE---RASH!
I restarted the game. Cara was still in the Sim Bin. I moved her into a new instance of my 1x1 row house, no problem, played her past 7pm.
Not sure if I can follow. Can you doublecheck please?
* You are using BV
* You used a former BV NPC (not sure what "Twikki native" is -- I know that there is a vacation subhood called Twiiki Island or somehting, is "native" some type of NPC? Or new kind of townie? I don't know much about this, non-BV user here)
* You moved that former NPC (now a playable) into a copy of the Backdoor Lane lot that had previously been used, yes? Had it crashed? Or did you just move the previous occupant in and out again? Did you change anything about the lot on that occasion?
* Then what happened -- immediate crash? Were you able to enter the lot and then it crashed? Or was this a regular 7PM crash? Or some other crash?
* After that crash, the moved-in sim was still in the bin? So that lot never auto-saved?
I'm not even going to try and catch up on the basement windows issue right now (need sleep, and coffee, and then go back to work) .. will keep your posts bookmarked and write a novel about it on the weekend =). Thank you for your input -- interesting to hear how it looks like for others.
Zazazu:
Well, I haven't tried your lot on my hack-free account, but I did test both my own sets (the one I've posted a bit of around here and the unreleased one I just finished last night) on my hack-free account. Neither crashed with the no-save, CAS sim combo. I'll try yours on that account tonight.
ebonyspiral:
Quote from: Doc Doofus on 2007 October 29, 02:27:32
3. I can't think of anyway to change the hour by force to nighttime. Can you think of one? If you change the hour, you can only change it to an hour during the day, if it's daytime, or night, if it's nighttime. I recall, though, somebody had a mod that would allow you to move vampires into lots at night. Any leads on that? That might make an interesting experiment.
Does the 'setHour (0-23)' cheat not work to allow jumping to 19:00, or just beforehand?
I've not tested these lots yet myself, but I've used this cheat in game before.
maxon:
Quote from: Rascal on 2007 October 29, 04:08:08
Maybe there is something to the ep thing? I don't have BV either so of course this means I can't test Inge's lot (after saying I would - sorry :-[).
Quote from: Doc Doofus on 2007 October 29, 02:27:32
What else happens at 7pm: The lights turn on.
A couple of other ideas to test:
1. Does the newly installed and occupied lot crash if you go into build/buy mode and change the view to nighttime view? I hadn't thought of trying that. In many ways, that is similar to the 7pm changeover.
2. Turn on all lights before 7pm. Or turn off all lights before 7pm. That might make for an interesting experiment. it would at least eliminate the possibility that it's something related to outdoor houselights turning on and off.
1. In a different neighbourhood with another brand new CAS sim I tried changing to night view in buildmode pretty much as soon as the lot loaded. It crashed straight away. For me at least this proves it has something to do with the change of lighting from day to night.
Well, that didn't happen for me. I have only been playing my own lots but everything is working as advertised (so to speak).
In the two lots I played today, I moved in two sets of existing sims. Because I like my neighbourhood synchronised, the first thing I did was change the day with Pescado's time warp. Then I changed the time with the 'sethour' cheat to 6am and then I realised, damn it, I need to do some building bits and pieces and it would be easier to do this if I could see properly. So I went into build mode and toggled the day/night lighting - it went back again once I exited build mode. No problems. Played the lot, saved several times and then noticed it was 8pm. No crash obviously. I do have all EPs up to BV though - I suspect platicbox is right that it's something to do with that.
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