Crash on resized lots at 7PM -- any ideas?
Zazazu:
Quote from: pbox on 2007 October 28, 17:01:54
Zazazu,
you say you "stripped the place entirely" -- do you recall, by any chance, whether you removed the street light as well?
I left the streetlight, mailbox, trashcan, and windows, doors, and walls exactly where they were originally. Did add a bit to the roof and filled in/flattened the basement.
I just got done with building four of my own townhomes. 2x1 (on edges) 2x2 (on edges) 1x1 (one from) 1x2 (one from). All playtested by playing through past 7pm and not saving, none crashed. All four had been placed in the lot bin and then placed in the 'hood again, but not packaged and installed.
OK, if anyone (especially those who have been having crashes) wants to test mine and see if they get the same, here are links:
All EPs required!
1x1 townhome NOT on the edges (1 space cushion)
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/27671259/d927b61/1x1_Townhouse_-_Kari.html
2x1 townhome on right and left edges, 1 space cushion on back
Both are unfurnished. Maxis-only content. No streetlights. No basements.
Link: http://www.4shared.com/file/27671271/317f91d1/2x1_Townhouse_-_Kari.html
Simsample:
Inge's lot (which did not crash for me) has the mailbox and trashcan moved just as Pbox's lots (which did crash) do... the only difference that I can see is that, as mentioned before, Pbox has two trash cans on the Backdoor lot.
Could EPs be significant here? I have BV as does Inge, and I can play Inge's lots fine. Yet Pbox does not have BV and his lots crash for me.
Pbox, I'm also hoping that someone will look at the logs and maybe shed some light on them- although all of mine mention 'Access Violation' and a particular .dll file in the game folder, I'm not sure how to interpret the rest of the figures on there.
pbox:
Zazazu,
I don't package+install my lots either, and I do crash. Doesn't seem to play a role. Thanks, I'll add that to the "list of factors" post.
Simsample,
EPs do not seem to play any role at all (see abovementioned list -- EPs all over the place, some lots/users crash and some don't .. can't see any pattern there).
There are two or more trashcans on almost all of my "normal" Backdoor lane lots, none of them crash .. *may*be somehow the combination of extra trashcan and shrinking is breaking the lots, but seeing as I added the second can *after* shrinking (because during the shrinking process, the mbox/can are moved anyway) I don't see how it can play a role .. maybe Mootilda or someone who knows more than I do about what the LotExpander actually does and does not do with the lots can comment on this. I'll add it to the "list of things" post, in any case. Thank you.
Inge:
I have been playing families in shrunk lots for days now, and none of them have crashed. I have had lots with no portals, lots with no bins or mailboxes, lots with extra portals and ones where the cars couldn't stop because the road was like a roller coaster after I finished deforming the lot to test it.
Pbox, are you patched up to date with the game you have? Has anyone *but* pbox managed to make a crashing shrunken lot?
pbox:
Quote from: Inge on 2007 October 28, 22:24:39
Pbox, are you patched up to date with the game you have?
Not quite -- I use Seasons p2, not p3, because I like the crybabies. I have all other relevant patches.
That said, all of the crashing lots are made with the Base game / Base+NL using the Base Game Starter .. I would assume that those games have their respective patches (patches fiddle with the respective binaries directly, right?) but I'm not entirely sure. In any case, the crashing lots have never seen my Seasons game.
For what it's worth, aelflaed is also using the BGS base game and her lots haven't been crashing yet .. no idea how much of a role this plays.
Quote from: Inge on 2007 October 28, 22:24:39
Has anyone *but* pbox managed to make a crashing shrunken lot?
Apparently not, so far. I'm hoping this means that it will be easier to figure this out .. I'm not doing anything with the lots that other users cannot possibly do, as far as I'm aware.
Again, I don't think it can be *only* something that I do (or have .. say, lack of patches) -- I would have to have heard of, or seen, this crash before, with the number of downloads that my lots have. I'm fairly certain it is somehow related to the shrinking. Most probably, at this point in time, something that I do (and that others can also do) that's not compatible with the shrinking.
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