More Awesome Than You!
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
2024 March 28, 10:57:35

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
540270 Posts in 18066 Topics by 6511 Members
Latest Member: zheng
* Home Help Search Login Register
+  More Awesome Than You!
|-+  Awesomeware
| |-+  The Armory
| | |-+  Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
0 Members and 3 Chinese Bots are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 15 THANKS THIS IS GREAT Print
Author Topic: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!  (Read 351386 times)
Baroness
witch
Breakfast of Champions!
Senator
*
Posts: 11636


Shunning the accursed daystar.


View Profile
Sims paid twice every hour
« Reply #50 on: 2006 May 13, 08:33:25 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

I have a problem with sims getting paid twice every hour. I have these hacks.


smartercashier.package 9/3/06
waiterfix.package 3/5/06
businessrunsyou.package 5/4/06  +skillinator et al
nolamehires.package 13/3/06
noreassign.package 19/3/06

NON-AWESOME_Hacks
MQ_Open_Closed_Sign_Fairly_Paid_Regulator.package 6/4/06
nopodiumphonecalls.package 4/5/06

The ching ching with the money floating upwards happens so fast, is there any way I can generate an error log at that time that would be of any use?
Logged

My fists are named Feminine and Wiles.
J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #51 on: 2006 May 13, 10:26:59 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Hmm. Can't imagine why you'd be getting paid twice an hour, unless you somehow have a duplicate employee controller, or the Merolian Time Manipulator. None of which concerns Business Runs You.
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
Marvin Kosh
Feckless Fool
*
Posts: 264



View Profile WWW
Re: Sims paid twice every hour
« Reply #52 on: 2006 May 13, 12:53:29 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

I have a problem with sims getting paid twice every hour.

The ching ching with the money floating upwards happens so fast, is there any way I can generate an error log at that time that would be of any use?

Is it all employees or just one in particular?  The reason I ask is that a while ago I noticed that there is an additional ching ching at the bar if you have a non-controllable tending it.  It's the same pay that you get if you tend a bar on a non-owned community lot (this functionality was introduced in the first expansion pack as a way of letting students earn a little extra cash) when it usually comes up every 12 sim minutes.

However, because this functionality is supposed to be disabled on an owned community lot, you can get an extra ching which goes straight into the business funds, because it wasn't intended to seek out a specific Sim and pay them instead of the household funds.

Another possibility, with a bar at least, is that you're seeing the customer pay for their drink.  Provided your customers aren't lured away by other attractions, a bar can be a good way to make extra money in a place which already charges for entry.
« Last Edit: 2006 May 13, 13:07:45 by Marvin Kosh » Logged

Baroness
witch
Breakfast of Champions!
Senator
*
Posts: 11636


Shunning the accursed daystar.


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #53 on: 2006 May 14, 06:15:56 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

No, the only businesses so far have been retail, it happens on both home and community lots. I emptied all hacks except JM's at one point and it was still happening. It happens to all employees hourly, two lots of the same amount float up.

How do I trigger a log file?
Logged

My fists are named Feminine and Wiles.
Marvin Kosh
Feckless Fool
*
Posts: 264



View Profile WWW
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #54 on: 2006 May 14, 22:47:47 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

All you need to do to generate a log is enter debugging mode and shift-click an object on the lot to pop up the Force Error option.

Just pick Cancel when the error message pops up, but take note of the filename that the error log has been saved to - you should find it in My Documents/EA Games/The Sims 2/Logs/ and since it will be the most recent log created, it will have the latest modified timestamp in that directory.
Logged

J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #55 on: 2006 May 15, 01:33:36 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Forcing an error tends not to be too instructive if nothing is wrong with the errored object.
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
Baroness
witch
Breakfast of Champions!
Senator
*
Posts: 11636


Shunning the accursed daystar.


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #56 on: 2006 May 15, 02:00:35 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Yeah, I'm not getting an error popping up so I can create a logfile, so everything seems to be working OK. I'll keep monitoring and see if I can even get a screen dump when the staff get paid..

Edit:
OK. The scenario is a home business selling plants and flowers. The only two sims currently under control of business uses you are Rocky, the paid employee as cashier and the owner who is currently being salesperson. Rocky is the only paid employee of the business.

I managed to catch a screen dump of the two amounts floating up. You can see $42 by Rocky and the same on the far right under the business UI.



Edit last: OK I finally worked it out. I checked the money. In fact the $42 is being deducted from the family balance - the OTHER $42 I can see on the right is coming off the business cash flow amount. It's not two separate amounts but just the same amout being dealt with in two places. Phew. Never mind, I get there in the end!
« Last Edit: 2006 May 15, 05:59:24 by witch » Logged

My fists are named Feminine and Wiles.
pioupiou
Irritating Ignoramus
**
Posts: 416



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #57 on: 2006 May 15, 05:57:29 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

For me your screenshot is perfectly normal : +42 being paid to the cashier and -42 being deducted from the family funds.
It's always like that in my game since I have installed OFB...
Or do I miss something in your shot and explanations ?
Pioupiou
Logged
J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #58 on: 2006 May 15, 08:13:48 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

* J. M. Pescado points and laughs.
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
Baroness
witch
Breakfast of Champions!
Senator
*
Posts: 11636


Shunning the accursed daystar.


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #59 on: 2006 May 15, 08:23:13 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

* J. M. Pescado points and laughs.

Yeah. cheers mate.

K'n I buy ya a beer?   Embarrassed
Logged

My fists are named Feminine and Wiles.
ZephyrZodiac
Whiny Wussy
*****
Posts: 7469


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #60 on: 2006 May 21, 20:38:52 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Any chance of getting something done about the stupid message you get when a sim moves neighbourhoods and tries to call to check on his businesses?  Or the way when you demote a manager, you have to actually cut his pay before promoting someone else and raising their wages?  After all, in a properly run modern business, there would be a pay scale which would be automatically applied!  And sometimes you don't want to fire the manager, just demote them since they aren't really very good at managing!
Logged

Zephyr Zodiac
J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #61 on: 2006 May 22, 14:43:00 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Any chance of getting something done about the stupid message you get when a sim moves neighbourhoods and tries to call to check on his businesses?
What stupid message?

Quote
Or the way when you demote a manager, you have to actually cut his pay before promoting someone else and raising their wages?  After all, in a properly run modern business, there would be a pay scale which would be automatically applied!  And sometimes you don't want to fire the manager, just demote them since they aren't really very good at managing!
I could implement QC-0 pay scaling, sort of like how Monique's whatzit tries to make everyone "fairly paid" (which, of course, I think is simply outrageous: How do you expect to run a profitable sweatshop like that?!?). Then employees will automatically be paid the minimum possible wage that they'll accept without quitting. Tongue
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
dadditude
Dimwitted Dunce
*
Posts: 154



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #62 on: 2006 May 22, 16:11:26 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

I could implement QC-0 pay scaling, sort of like how Monique's whatzit tries to make everyone "fairly paid" (which, of course, I think is simply outrageous: How do you expect to run a profitable sweatshop like that?!?). Then employees will automatically be paid the minimum possible wage that they'll accept without quitting. Tongue

That would be perfect!
Logged

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend;
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
Baroness
witch
Breakfast of Champions!
Senator
*
Posts: 11636


Shunning the accursed daystar.


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #63 on: 2006 May 23, 06:38:07 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

I could implement QC-0 pay scaling, sort of like how Monique's whatzit tries to make everyone "fairly paid" (which, of course, I think is simply outrageous: How do you expect to run a profitable sweatshop like that?!?). Then employees will automatically be paid the minimum possible wage that they'll accept without quitting. Tongue

That would be perfect!

I second that notion! Even if sims are good at retail, $48 an hour or more is ludicrous. Retail is not a highly paid job. Though if the prices in the sim shops rise, so should the sim minimum wage, as presumably the business is then higher class and attracting more revenue.

I'm never sure how low I can pay sims before they quit (it's a pain getting new staff and dressing them etc etc.) - because I don't want them to quit so I've been using the fair wages sign - but those wages aren't fair, they're OTT.
Logged

My fists are named Feminine and Wiles.
J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #64 on: 2006 May 23, 11:29:46 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Well, if you want less ludicrous wage demands, you might try "Relevant Wages". This greatly reduces the influence of skills on wages paid (since many skills are entirely useless in a business). Each badge-level otherwise seems to jack up a sim's wage demand by $5: Relevant wages makes it so only relevant badges affect this.

The wages are still pretty high, but then you figure it also costs $40 for a pizza. This produces the "Fairly Paid" wage, which is not necessarily the QC0 wage. For a random employee that doesn't really know the business owner, the "Fair" wage is QC0, but for better relation levels, you can get QC0 wages as low as the "Very Underpaid" mark. Ridiculously Underpaid seems to produce a minimum of about 3%, even with every other factor in your favor (max STR/LTR, plat mood), and in practice, this doesn't seem likely to actually trigger if you keep them from idling much.
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
starrling
Giraffe Person
Pinheaded Pissant
***
Posts: 1052


nyah


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #65 on: 2006 May 28, 00:14:17 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

*protects lips

Um... JM?  For some reason my BRU is all goobered up.  The last time I used it (probably a couple months ago-haven't been playing businesses lately) I was able to get "be a salesperson" or something like that along with cashier and restock.  Now I only get the  cashier and restock options.  I read all the posts above, got the new phone hack (just in case that was it), took out all download's except MATY and still nothing.  Any ideas?  I do have the Fam Fun Pack but that's about all that's different, I think.  Help, please? 
Logged

jsalemi
Town Crier
Vacuous Vegetable
*****
Posts: 4475


In dog we trust, all others pay cash...


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #66 on: 2006 May 28, 00:28:44 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

*protects lips

Um... JM?  For some reason my BRU is all goobered up.  The last time I used it (probably a couple months ago-haven't been playing businesses lately) I was able to get "be a salesperson" or something like that along with cashier and restock.  Now I only get the  cashier and restock options.  I read all the posts above, got the new phone hack (just in case that was it), took out all download's except MATY and still nothing.  Any ideas?  I do have the Fam Fun Pack but that's about all that's different, I think.  Help, please? 

Does the sim in question have a gold sales badge?  The "be salesman" will only show up for sims with gold level sales badges.
Logged

Excelsior, you fathead!
I am Canadian.
starrling
Giraffe Person
Pinheaded Pissant
***
Posts: 1052


nyah


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #67 on: 2006 May 28, 00:30:00 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

OMG how stupid can I be.  Of course.  I'm not using cheats this time so I forgot about that important part.   Roll Eyes

Thanks SO much!
Logged

pcgeekri
Dimwitted Dunce
*
Posts: 185


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #68 on: 2006 May 30, 09:49:16 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Hellllo everyone,

The main thing is I wish someone would modify how much energy is consumed on dazzling customers.  My manger's scenario is like this, dazzle about 3 or 4 times then this mod has him caffeinate because his  energy is halfway down.  And this becomes the vicious cycle. 

Thanks for any help,

Pcgeekri
« Last Edit: 2006 May 30, 09:59:58 by pcgeekri » Logged
J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #69 on: 2006 May 30, 10:42:22 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

The main thing is I wish someone would modify how much energy is consumed on dazzling customers.  My manger's scenario is like this, dazzle about 3 or 4 times then this mod has him caffeinate because his  energy is halfway down.  And this becomes the vicious cycle.
That's not a vicious cycle. That's a BUSINESS cycle. If you have him running sales, that's what sales is supposed to *DO*. How else do you expect to make a profit? Clearly if he's choosing Dazzle, it's because your goods aren't peddling from a mere Hard Sell. Thus it bumps to the next level of action in an attempt to sell that product, and that is Dazzle.

Is it WORKING? Is that merchandise MOVING? If so, then that's what's supposed to happen. The energy thing? Cost of business.
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
jsalemi
Town Crier
Vacuous Vegetable
*****
Posts: 4475


In dog we trust, all others pay cash...


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #70 on: 2006 May 30, 21:50:25 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

The main thing is I wish someone would modify how much energy is consumed on dazzling customers.  My manger's scenario is like this, dazzle about 3 or 4 times then this mod has him caffeinate because his  energy is halfway down.  And this becomes the vicious cycle. 


Alternatively, you could get TwoJeff's static energy statue  (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=1193.0) and stick it on the business lot -- that'll keep everyones energy from dropping.  If you really want to sell to beat the devil, check out Squinge's hacks/mods over on insimenator.net -- he's got everything from a hack that keeps dazzle from draining energy to a picture you can put on the business lot that keeps all motives raised (which is handy for sims that have multiple businesses and want a reasonable chance of running all of them in one day Smiley).
Logged

Excelsior, you fathead!
I am Canadian.
pcgeekri
Dimwitted Dunce
*
Posts: 185


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #71 on: 2006 May 31, 09:25:14 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Me so sorry Pescado,

The latest version of Microtastics fixed all the problems in my business lot everytihing works great, so well in fact that I don't need a mod to reduce the energy consumption when dazzle is used.

Thanks everyone for your help,

Pcgeekri
Logged
J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #72 on: 2006 May 31, 09:31:52 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

The Dazzle Energy cost really shouldn't be considered a "bad" thing, it should just be regarded as "cost of business". Since Macrotastics is perfectly capable of handling this cost, there is no reason to cheat.
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
idtaminger
Lipless Loser
***
Posts: 621


View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #73 on: 2006 May 31, 15:03:41 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

I so want this in my game, but goodness, did you really have to make the mesh a giant sickle and hammer? I mean, wouldn't it have been sufficient to have a tiny desk ornament or something. It just seems very odd that my capitalist entrepreneur sim would have a giant SU symbol in their business. Plus, it totally ruins my design schemes. I'm terribly picky about good design.

Perhaps you could replace the mesh w/ something simple, like a Maxis painting (I really like the small white modern one that came w/ofb)? Please? Pretty please?
Logged
J. M. Pescado
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
El Presidente
*****
Posts: 26281



View Profile
Re: Business Controller: Business Runs YOU!
« Reply #74 on: 2006 May 31, 15:11:53 »
THANKS THIS IS GREAT

Perhaps you could replace the mesh w/ something simple, like a Maxis painting (I really like the small white modern one that came w/ofb)? Please? Pretty please?
I'm not going to replace the mesh, but I might make it morphable in-game into something. What objects do you suggest as morphs?
Logged

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 15 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.085 seconds with 20 queries.