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« Reply #25 on: 2008 March 04, 22:47:09 »
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I believe so. I generally delete new lots from the lot catalog before installing, as I hate the fug EAxis calls houses. Blech. I'm wondering if I didn't delete the contents of the wrong folder.
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« Reply #26 on: 2008 March 04, 23:00:13 »
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It looks like the new lots in the catalog come from C:\... Res\UserData\LotCatalog - I recognize the sports plaza type place from the thumbnail in CleanInstaller. I doubt restoring the Lots folder in N002 would help at this point, but maybe you can copy them and replace the blank lot files in your Neighborhood folder?
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« Reply #27 on: 2008 March 04, 23:09:29 »
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Neh. I want my own lots, I've decided. If it can't be done, no one will be going to the membership lots. They serve no real purpose anyways. My sims have a dance club, a couple furniture shops, a gym, and in Prospect Proper a basketball court and three community gardens. They're busy as it is.
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« Reply #28 on: 2008 March 05, 02:05:20 »
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There is an instructor and two hydroponic garden career rewards at the Nature secret lot, I'm guessing the others will have various career rewards for skilling too.  I'm using a custom hood, except it's the normal type of custom hood rather than cleaned templates and such.  The premades all died a fast death before gameplay commenced.  The sim gained in nature while doing things at the secret lot, though I don't recall if there were icons and I haven't yet taken him to a normal community lot.
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« Reply #29 on: 2008 March 05, 12:47:19 »
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Neh. I want my own lots, I've decided. If it can't be done, no one will be going to the membership lots. They serve no real purpose anyways. My sims have a dance club, a couple furniture shops, a gym, and in Prospect Proper a basketball court and three community gardens. They're busy as it is.

I use the hobby lots as weekend cabin and love nest. Too bad you cannot enable build mode, but I have a sim with too much money gain memberships to all clubs and refurnish the ones that have at least a bearable floor plan.
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« Reply #30 on: 2008 March 05, 13:09:39 »
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Hobbylots can be buymoded?
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« Reply #31 on: 2008 March 05, 13:15:07 »
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With 'boolprop dormspecifictoolsdisabled false'

jolrei, by any chance, do you have 'Always Perfect Plants' in your downloads folder? I was having a similar problem as you and removing that hack fixed the problem.
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« Reply #32 on: 2008 March 05, 14:42:45 »
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With 'boolprop dormspecifictoolsdisabled false'

jolrei, by any chance, do you have 'Always Perfect Plants' in your downloads folder? I was having a similar problem as you and removing that hack fixed the problem.

I did have TJ's Perfect Plants installed.  Not sure if that version was cleared, but I now have his latest version which he has cleared/updated for FT.  With new version of comm-skilling and macrotastics, comm lot hobbination seems to be working fine.  All tests last night were successful.

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« Reply #33 on: 2008 March 05, 18:11:06 »
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Installed and tried the updated version . Comm lot skilling and hobby enthusiasm works fine for me now     Thanks Pes

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« Reply #34 on: 2008 March 05, 18:20:40 »
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Hobbylots can be buymoded?
With the dorm cheat, as MistyBlue said. They can then be buildmoded by selecting a floor tile (I use the sidewalk as I have a modified floorpattern file in order to do street partking. They just can't be saved while set as a hobbylot.

Now, here's what you can do, and I'm playing around with this in my game to see if I can either create custom lots and code them to replace (or add to the list of) existing hobby lots, or edit the hobby lots. There is a cheat "changelotzoning secrethobbylot". I can set up a new lot, make changes, save it, then apply the cheat. After applying the cheat, the game pops me out of the lot and it appears green but no sims are able to move to it. However, it doesn't appear as an option to sims who have access to the particular type of lot (in this case, Fitness). I made sure that I'd included all items in the Desiderata fitness lot (the premise being that they behave similarly to the BV secret lots and need a key item to function, especially since you can't specify that it's fitness or cooking, etc.). My theory is either that the cheat isn't behaving correctly, the issue is that the sub-hood isn't coded as a hobby-hood (this is my #1 suspicion), or it's because my sim already has access to a fitness lot.

Next up is to try changing my existing blank fitness lot to a community lot when my sim is on it, make some changes, save, and then do the cheat. I'm afraid I may lose a sim temporarily, but meh.

EDIT: I've figured it out! Yay! Requires that you have the original lot files from Desiderata, but I was able to edit my existing blank lot, then through some fanangling involving the original Desiderata lot, get my changes to stick and the lot to keep functioning. As soon as I get it set up, I'll post instructions in the Podium so that everyone can edit their lots if they want.
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« Reply #35 on: 2008 March 06, 11:14:07 »
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With the dorm cheat, as MistyBlue said. They can then be buildmoded by selecting a floor tile (I use the sidewalk as I have a modified floorpattern file in order to do street partking. They just can't be saved while set as a hobbylot.
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EDIT: I've figured it out! Yay! Requires that you have the original lot files from Desiderata, but I was able to edit my existing blank lot, then through some fanangling involving the original Desiderata lot, get my changes to stick and the lot to keep functioning. As soon as I get it set up, I'll post instructions in the Podium so that everyone can edit their lots if they want.
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« Reply #36 on: 2008 March 06, 11:16:13 »
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I have a high-reliability method for editing all hobbylots, but it is not very easy to do, as it involves file-cleaning and shadow neighborhoods.
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« Reply #37 on: 2008 March 06, 11:24:47 »
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I have a high-reliability method for editing all hobbylots, but it is not very easy to do, as it involves file-cleaning and shadow neighborhoods.

Would you mind to Can you be bribed into explaining this method?
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« Reply #38 on: 2008 March 06, 12:52:40 »
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Well, first, you have to clean all the file debris out of the "auto-added" subhoods with templates. This means youhave to clear all the extraneous text strings, SDSCs, etc. Basically, garbage which is left over from templates. To do this, create a BLANK subhood, then compare it to one of the "dirty" subhoods, and delete everything which is not supposed to be there. Then, copy the lot descriptor and lot descriptor strings from the now cleansed "Hobby" autosubhood into the blank subhood, and perform terrain surgery. Go to the subhood and use the Loadlot and changelotzoning cheats to edit the Hobby lots. When you have completed the editation, quit, go to your neighborhood, and manually remove the Dummy Suburb: Don't delete in-game. You can save this stub-suburb for later if you want to re-edit.
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« Reply #39 on: 2008 March 06, 15:13:28 »
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Do my eyes deceive me or did I read in this thread that in the game as it left EA, when I take my predestined sport Sim to the sports park, she doesn't actually build enthusiasm for sport while she's using the stuff there???

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« Reply #40 on: 2008 March 06, 16:31:48 »
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Well, first, you have to clean all the file debris out of the "auto-added" subhoods with templates. This means youhave to clear all the extraneous text strings, SDSCs, etc. Basically, garbage which is left over from templates. To do this, create a BLANK subhood, then compare it to one of the "dirty" subhoods, and delete everything which is not supposed to be there. Then, copy the lot descriptor and lot descriptor strings from the now cleansed "Hobby" autosubhood into the blank subhood, and perform terrain surgery. Go to the subhood and use the Loadlot and changelotzoning cheats to edit the Hobby lots. When you have completed the editation, quit, go to your neighborhood, and manually remove the Dummy Suburb: Don't delete in-game. You can save this stub-suburb for later if you want to re-edit.
I did most of that, except without the dummy suburb. I used a sim to get to the lot and edit it. It's still kind of annoying, because you have to have a sim who has gotten the card to do so. It's unfortunate that we can't use LoadLot from the main 'hood to get into a lot from a sub 'hood. I've done the Fitness lot so far, and started on the Nature lot. Building the Nature lot is part of my 'hood's story, so I'm doing it in stages. More work. Meh.
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« Reply #41 on: 2008 March 06, 17:48:16 »
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Do my eyes deceive me or did I read in this thread that in the game as it left EA, when I take my predestined sport Sim to the sports park, she doesn't actually build enthusiasm for sport while she's using the stuff there???

This is, in fact, the case, yes.  Continued comm lot stupidity which has existed since Base -- playing chess at home built logic, but playing all day at the local park did nothing.  Why would hobbies be any different (just because EA has had years to fix this and never does)?
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« Reply #42 on: 2008 March 08, 11:54:15 »
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Do my eyes deceive me or did I read in this thread that in the game as it left EA, when I take my predestined sport Sim to the sports park, she doesn't actually build enthusiasm for sport while she's using the stuff there???

Oh dear, what's the point of having "special" hobby lot then, if Sims can't even build enthusiasm in it? *Headdesk* It's about as useless as runway lots for H&M.
Comm-skilling should really have been integrated into the core game.
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« Reply #43 on: 2008 March 09, 23:44:55 »
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My comm skilling does not seem to be working.  I have sims that I am positive are townies and when they use items that skill they do not get either the progress bar nor the enthusiasm symbol.  Does this not work on home lots anymore?

Also I'm not sure where to put this comment so I will put it here.  I have been getting this want "Buy unnamed wantable object category 10100" and the slot is blank.  I had heard that this is a problem with either the LTW variety or Uni LTW's but I am not sure.  So I thought that I would just let you know.  Sorry if this is out of place, please don't tear me a new one. Embarrassed
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« Reply #44 on: 2008 March 10, 00:39:41 »
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Also I'm not sure where to put this comment so I will put it here.  I have been getting this want "Buy unnamed wantable object category 10100" and the slot is blank.  I had heard that this is a problem with either the LTW variety or Uni LTW's but I am not sure.  So I thought that I would just let you know.  Sorry if this is out of place, please don't tear me a new one. Embarrassed

If you are using Pescado's hack to enable uni ltws, then you need to update it as Pescado has now fixed this glitch.  This hack is not included in the Director's Cut (as not everyone has the uni EP installed), but it is in the hacks directory.
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« Reply #45 on: 2008 March 10, 05:25:29 »
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My comm skilling does not seem to be working.  I have sims that I am positive are townies and when they use items that skill they do not get either the progress bar nor the enthusiasm symbol.  Does this not work on home lots anymore?

I'm wondering the same thing.  I haven't really gone to a community lot, but non-resident sims don't seem to be building skills or intrest by doing things at residential lots.
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« Reply #46 on: 2008 March 10, 08:07:44 »
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I thought I read that only your playable sims get the progress bars, but the other sims would be skilling silently?  I have just remembered that yesterday I got a pop-up saying some townie had just got a skill point, so I think it is happening.
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« Reply #47 on: 2008 March 10, 23:59:06 »
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Kyna, thanks muchly, I will try to track that one down.

Everyone else thanks also, I hope that it is silent skilling because that was one hack I really really loved!

Edit: I checked the hack list and I did download the update for it.  When I updated all my other hacks.  So either this is not a uni ltw problem or it is not completely fixed.
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« Reply #48 on: 2008 March 11, 00:20:23 »
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Kyna, thanks muchly, I will try to track that one down.

Everyone else thanks also, I hope that it is silent skilling because that was one hack I really really loved!

Edit: I checked the hack list and I did download the update for it.  When I updated all my other hacks.  So either this is not a uni ltw problem or it is not completely fixed.

Pescado updated uni_ltws_sns for FT, then he updated it again when people reported the glitch you mentioned.  So this hack has been updated at least twice since FT.  Getting the most recent version of the hack fixed the same glitch in my game.

You say "when I updated all my other hacks".  I hope you've been checking back every day for updates and didn't just update once and think you're done.  In the first few days and weeks after an EP release Pescado updates his hacks frequently (usually daily, and sometimes several times a day) in response to reported glitches with his hacks, to fix reported glitches in the game, and to add new features to his hacks (such as the constant updates to skillinator as he improves macro/hobbinate).
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« Reply #49 on: 2008 March 11, 18:25:31 »
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I can double check even redownload the hacks again.  It is just that the time and date stamp was the same.  No worries, I will redownload and run the game either later today or tomorrow.
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