Cleaning up Characters?
jsalemi:
Yea, and so do I -- big whoop. Probably longer than he has. When it comes to programming (or life) there's no such thing as 'right in a different way.' There's right, and there's wrong, and there's reasonable discussions so that people can come to a mutual conclusion as to what is right. Someone who's 'right' but is unwilling to defend why they think they're right has no clue what right and wrong really is.
And with that, I'm done here -- I have real people with real problems to help in other threads.
mitchellcjs:
Quote from: Kigan on 2007 October 03, 23:10:58
I didn't expect someone to provide an example to what I was saying as to why people avoid this place. I state the problem, get some help, provide what is wrong with that in relation to my own game, and a fight starts because the answer didn't work. Your thing about who is right and wrong is exactly why he won't come here. You only believe one thing and find it impossible that someone else could be right in a different way.
You know what, forget it. Apparently I'm not going to get help here. I'm just wrong, according to you, and that is all that matters. Just forget it. I should have known better than to come here. I should have known I wouldn't actually get a solution, just have it pointed out WHY i'm wrong.
Your blind defense of your "friend" who apparently didn't mess up your computer, according to you, but DID do things you don't understand to your neighborhoods, files, and characters, is what has people up in arms. They need to know exactly what you've done/had done to your files before they can assist you. You should never allow someone to do things you don't understand to your computer. EVER. RTFM is helpful, friends who explain are helpful, blindly having faith that a friend is absolutely right, even if he can't/won't explain is not. If your friend had posted the info here, lots of MATYers would have run off to try it, finding whether it works. It would then be discussed, rehashed, modified, and applauded as needed. Your friend is full of shit if he says he has the one true way. Your files are screwed because not even YOU know what has been going on with them. You don't know what your friend did to them. You don't know what you've done to them. No, you won't get help here, because to help, we need information, which you can't provide.
Ness:
You do realise that if things went wrong at the merge neighbourhoods point, it would really only become apparent as you played? The problems that too many characters, unlinked characters, and all those other bad things cause don't show up straight away. They slowly become more and more obvious as your game appears more and more borked with time. The BFBVFS is not an immediate thing - the lead up to it is slow, but the end result is pretty spectacular, as you appear to be discovering.
End result: You're screwed. Start over.
jolrei:
Quote from: Kigan on 2007 October 03, 22:56:17
But he isn't putting himself out there as you do and gets very annoyed when everyone who plays the game comes to him for help while he is working on his own jobs that PAY him.
Doubtless, which is why you are here. There are explanations on this site which tell you why moving sims between hoods is a bad thing. You say there are no garbage files, but this is only as far as you have seen. We understand that there are other garbage files which are not so easily seen. I am not an expert on this, but I do read, learn, and take good advice. As a result, my several hoods are still going, I do not have problems, have not seen an error message in about 3 weeks (and I play daily) and you, on the other hand have a hood going foom fast.
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He didn't fuck up the game, I DID! If you would listen, you'd have gotten that several posts back! He won't share it because it requires a lot of work to make sure every single bit of information is correct. Most people don't want to do all that work and just ask him to do it.
We certainly understand his perspective. As you can see, we do not tolerate this ourselves.
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He doesn't have time to teach people. He took the time to check every single detail of every single character and fix it.
We, on the other hand, do not have the time to do all this hand holding. We provide advice, mostly in the form of discussion threads where we have discussed problems. New people are invited to lurk and read before posting, because a search often shows up a discussion where your problem is discussed. There are several threads with hundreds of posts on why moving families and lots between hoods is bad.
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I'm trying to explain it, but you ARE NOT LISTENING and won't even answer my damn question about WHY the large number of characters is a problem!
Watch me listen - as per paragraph above, there are lots of discussions on here about "too many sims". Mostly now it's a matter of what your computer can comfortably load (more takes longer - that's logic). There is not a known critical number since NL. People have hoods with over 3000 character files and they live.
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He won't come here for one reason: He doesn't like people who only believe in the form of knowledge the possess and won't listen to it when people present a conflicting view. Dare to present a conflicting view, and I get "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."
Bullshit. We listen to conflicting views. The modders here do not listen to unsupported quasi-knowledge from outside that counters their own research and results. The mods here work. The solutions MATY modders and users have come up with work. No other solution will be considered unless tested first, and it is unnecessary to use your friend's solution for a clean hood anyway, as it sounds needlessly complicated, and on the evidence, does not really result in a safe hood anyway.
It's not that we don't like conflicting views - the place is full of them. We don't like views that contradict good sense. We are not here because we are loyal sheep. We are here because stuff here works. Your friend's stuff - jury is still out on that, and they may be having a really long lunch. Your loyalty to his method appears ill conceived, and any method that requires a lot of his personal involvement and time is not one that sounds feasible for most players.
It does not work well and yet you defend it. Hence, you are a sheep. Go away now.
Kigan:
I made mistakes: I deleted from sim bin, I moved sims in houses, I did all those sorts of things before I knew their negative affects. Now I'm asking what to do to save my neighborhood from those mistakes. Let's forget about my friend, what he didn't or didn't do, and deal with the situation. I'm tired of defending him to you, you calling bullshit when I say you won't listen, but then you tell me he is wrong. Period. ENOUGH! I am done talking about that unrelated subject here. Let's deal with the problem: I did a lot that I messed up! Now I'm asking if I'm wasting time trying to salvage the neighborhood from MY mistakes. That is the focus here, so stop talking about him, because I'm done talking about him. That isn't the subject here.
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