Cleaning up Characters?

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Kigan:
But he isn't putting himself out there as you do and gets very annoyed when everyone who plays the game comes to him for help while he is working on his own jobs that PAY him. He didn't fuck up the game, I DID! If you would listen, you'd have gotten that several posts back! He won't share it because it requires a lot of work to make sure every single bit of information is correct. Most people don't want to do all that work and just ask him to do it. He doesn't have time to teach people. He took the time to check every single detail of every single character and fix it. He tried to share that method in the past, but too many people complained that it was too complicated and he got frustrated with people wanting it to be easier and gave up.

I'm trying to explain it, but you ARE NOT LISTENING and won't even answer my damn question about WHY the large number of characters is a problem!

He won't come here for one reason: He doesn't like people who only believe in the form of knowledge the possess and won't listen to it when people present a conflicting view. Dare to present a conflicting view, and I get "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

Now, I am done arguing about this. I am going to start over here, and you can keep banging your head against the wall of a useless argument, or we can work on my game. I suppose the best thing is ASK ME ACTUAL QUESTIONS, and I will do my best to provide the information. I can call him and get information on his process, if he is willing to tell me the depths of it. He didn't give me complete instructions as I thought. He is afraid my messing with the game will mess it up at the very beginning of a new neighborhood.

So, enough of an argument that is not going to serve any purpose. Why don't we try to do something constructive. At least with his tinkering in the game, he plans to come up with a version of the game to present to EA and Maxis that doesn't have so many problems. May not help you or me right now, but it is working towards something useful.

mitchellcjs:
Whine whine whine.  Too many characters... I found why this is bad by SEARCHING THE FORUMS.  Do so or sod off.  Bitch bitch bitch You come here asking for HELP.  These people try to HELP you, and you throw a hissy.  They are right, your friend is wrong.  Just because he doesn't see it doesn't mean its not there.  The people on these forums have been nothing but helpful to anyone who RESPECTFULLY states problem,  listens/reads solution, and posts INTELLIGENT questions about solutions.  If this is not your experience, look in the mirror for the problem.

Kigan:
Quote from: mitchellcjs on 2007 October 03, 23:02:03

Whine whine whine.  Too many characters... I found why this is bad by SEARCHING THE FORUMS.  Do so or sod off.  Bitch bitch bitch You come here asking for HELP.  These people try to HELP you, and you throw a hissy.  They are right, your friend is wrong.  Just because he doesn't see it doesn't mean its not there.  The people on these forums have been nothing but helpful to anyone who RESPECTFULLY states problem,  listens/reads solution, and posts INTELLIGENT questions about solutions.  If this is not your experience, look in the mirror for the problem.


I didn't expect someone to provide an example to what I was saying as to why people avoid this place. I state the problem, get some help, provide what is wrong with that in relation to my own game, and a fight starts because the answer didn't work. Your thing about who is right and wrong is exactly why he won't come here. You only believe one thing and find it impossible that someone else could be right in a different way.

You know what, forget it. Apparently I'm not going to get help here. I'm just wrong, according to you, and that is all that matters. Just forget it. I should have known better than to come here. I should have known I wouldn't actually get a solution, just have it pointed out WHY i'm wrong.

jsalemi:
I've been managing programming projects and programmers for over 15 years.  You know what we call programmers who believe that only they have the one true way, don't share their knowledge with others, don't have time to 'teach people', and do things so complicated they can't explain them to anyone else, but believe they're 'right in a different way, and then promise to come up with wonderful new ways to do things someday and present it to those who wrote the code in the first place?  We call them unemployed. :)

It still comes down to the same issue -- you asked for help, we gave it to you, you said it doesn't apply to your game because your friend did something different, and then expect help when no one here has a clue what he did different.  You want our help?  Reinstall your game from scratch, use the hacks/mods/techniques from here, and then come here for support when they don't work.  If you use methods that are 'right in a different way', then go to the source of that rightness and get his help.  If he's to busy to help, then you're pretty much screwed.

Kigan:
Not that it is any of your business, but he works with the government and has for a good many years (more than the 19 I've been alive), now working exclusively on computers.

He doesn't believe his was is the "one true way". You do realize you are doing the same thing. There is no coming together to discuss methods, just he is wrong and you are right and it ends there. That is why he won't come here or try to share it. He gets told he is wrong or that it is too difficult. That or someone attempts it and kills their game, blaming him. So he sticks to his own tinkering and fixing, leaving annoyances out of the loop so he can actually get things down outside his job.

What he did differently doesn't apply to my current problem. I've tried to tell you that. The problems started when I was playing. It has nothing to do with his method of merging the neighborhoods. I don't know how we got so far off topic with that.

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