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Lorelei:
Quote from: witch on 2008 March 26, 23:53:04

Yes, there are exceptions, B, Assmitten, Lorelei, Zazazu and many more have bounced into the place and made themselves known. Some MATYans like this, some don't.


But Lorelei...er, I mean, "I"...used the age-old technique of LURK MOAR before posting.  :P

ETA: I also read the goddamned FAQ. Kids these days, no manners. :)

Quote from: cwykes

...can you fix it so that people with less than X posts, physically CAN'T re-open a closed thread?

I wouldn't call this draconian, I'd consider it an option the owner of the forum could adopt to encourage n00bz to LURK MOAR, READ THE FAQ, and not commit necromancy. All of which, when not done, annoy long-time posters.

These are not new concepts. I've been online almost since I could reach a keyboard to type. That's roughly twenty years. These rules have been around since the beginning.

Translations:

1. Hang around and get used to the culture of a particular site / board / newsgroup / forum / mailing list before wasting bandwidth by irritating people who were there first.
2. If there are helpful "house rules" or guidelines or posting tips, read them. Someone wrote them because these were issues that irritated people who were there first, or which were deemed helpful to new people.
3. Old topic is old. Old topic may even be so old that everyone is completely pissed off when they have their time wasted by a request to rehash it all over again. If you are new, the first action you should take on a new site / forum / BBS / whatever should NOT be to revive an old thread, horn in on a fight, claim to be an expert, demand anything (freebies, help, WCIF, n00dz, torrents, HALP!, friendship) from people who were there before you.

See also an ancient thread about how this is like behaving like a small child running into a cocktail party (where everyone is peacefully discussing adult topics) and waving a filthy frog around and shouting that everyone should drop what they are doing to look at it. "See Mah FROGGIE!" behavior will get n00bz smacked. Believe it or not. as much as MATY likes MOAR FIGHT!, we tend to prefer juicy new fight to sporking hordes of clueless froggie-wavers.

The only quibble here re: necromancy is that it is sometimes difficult to determine which threads are OK to necromance (e.g., hack and mod threads) and which are not (opinion threads, old fight, old chit-chat). The angry lich guy message could potentially be restricted to areas that always hate necromancy, and a different "are you absolutely sure you want to contribute to this old thread and that there are no other more current or more relevant threads on this topic?" message for threads where necromancy is discouraged but not completely forbidden.

I'd welcome an admin decision to restrict n00bz to lurking for several hours, and then only posting in certain areas for a while. I'd even welcome a quiz that requires knowledge that can only be gained by reading the entire FAQ, with this quiz being a gateway between a horde of n00bz and the old guard.

witch:
You didn't lurk LONG though, did you?  :P

For which I am truly grateful, incidentally.

Zazazu:
Quote from: Lorelei on 2008 March 27, 10:04:46

Quote from: witch on 2008 March 26, 23:53:04

Yes, there are exceptions, B, Assmitten, Lorelei, Zazazu and many more have bounced into the place and made themselves known. Some MATYans like this, some don't.


But Lorelei...er, I mean, "I"...used the age-old technique of LURK MOAR before posting.  :P

ETA: I also read the goddamned FAQ. Kids these days, no manners. :)
I joined April 3, 2007 at 8:55. I posted April 3, 2007 at 9:01. I still somehow managed not to make too much of an ass out of myself, at least for the first couple of days. I'm also pretty sure I didn't read the FAQ for a good week.

Shockingly, having some level of common courtesy gets you far in life. That's really what the FAQ is...a general guide to terms and how not to look like an annoying tween.

Emma:
Date Registered:  2005 July 24, 18:16:49
First post on: 2005 July 30, 07:24:12

Wow, I waited a whole 6 days before posting :D FYI, I haven't ever read the FAQ.

Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III:
Quote from: Emma on 2008 March 27, 14:36:38

FYI, I haven't ever read the FAQ.


You do realise that saying that will no doubt lead to a "Death to EMMA" style comment, right?
'Cause it seemed obvious to me.  ;)

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