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Inge:
Quote from: Ellatrue on 2007 September 09, 21:32:06

They didn't make it as an option? That's really lame.

As for children being left alone in an unlocked hotel room--the only thing I can think of is that you wouldn't want them trapped in there if there were a fire.  ???


In this case, the children were all too young to even know about getting out if there was a fire.   At that age they should have been in earshot all the time - it only takes moments for a toddler or baby to choke on vomit or something.

From about 7 upwards things can be done to make short unattended periods safer.  They can be left with a mobile phone with a button programmed to phone you direct.  They can be told how to call out to passers-by or neighbours for help, they can be told what is not safe to touch in the apartment, that they should not open the door to callers etc etc.   At 2 and 4 years old respectively, those children were totally dependent on the close presence of a trustworthy adult 24 hours a day.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Inge on 2007 September 10, 08:43:06

In this case, the children were all too young to even know about getting out if there was a fire.   At that age they should have been in earshot all the time - it only takes moments for a toddler or baby to choke on vomit or something.
See, attitudes like this are exactly why children grow dumber and dumber with each generation. At that age, I knew how to load, aim, and fire the stationary machine gun. I knew not to touch the barrel because it was hot, and to get someone to unjam it if it got jammed, not to stick my fingers in it. And you're trying to say that a kid can't even figure out how to avoid a FIRE?

neriana:
Quote from: Inge on 2007 September 10, 08:43:06

Quote from: Ellatrue on 2007 September 09, 21:32:06

They didn't make it as an option? That's really lame.

As for children being left alone in an unlocked hotel room--the only thing I can think of is that you wouldn't want them trapped in there if there were a fire.  ???


In this case, the children were all too young to even know about getting out if there was a fire.   At that age they should have been in earshot all the time - it only takes moments for a toddler or baby to choke on vomit or something.


In this case, it sounds like the children would have been better off if they had been left totally alone. Rather than murdered by their parents >:(.

Sivany:
Quote from: Inge on 2007 September 10, 08:43:06

In this case, the children were all too young to even know about getting out if there was a fire.   At that age they should have been in earshot all the time - it only takes moments for a toddler or baby to choke on vomit or something.

From about 7 upwards things can be done to make short unattended periods safer.  They can be left with a mobile phone with a button programmed to phone you direct.  They can be told how to call out to passers-by or neighbours for help, they can be told what is not safe to touch in the apartment, that they should not open the door to callers etc etc.   At 2 and 4 years old respectively, those children were totally dependent on the close presence of a trustworthy adult 24 hours a day.


At the age of 4 I knew that it was a bad idea to touch anything burning/open the door to strangers/stick my fingers in plug sockets etc. I was left on my own (then with my younger brother when he was born) asleep in hotel rooms all the time. My parents would put us to bed, set up the phone baby monitor thing that linked to reception so they would be informed if we were crying and go downstairs to dinner. Most of the time we slept through their entire absence. At the age of about 3/4 however I wandered down to reception by myself because my brother was having a nightmare. I was old enough to open the door and remember the way downstairs but apparently not old enough to realise the importance of clothes when appearing in public. Luckily I was young enough that everyone thought it was sweet.

Also about the blood in the car thing. Apparently it's not actually certain it is blood, in fact it's most likely not - the police over there are apparently once again making assumptions. Scientists over here who have checked it out say that the match with Maddie's DNA is barely 50% and that the trace amount could just as easily have come from the cuddly toy Maddie's mum has been carrying around with her since the day it happened. Not really the conclusive proof some media sources reported.

Since this is totally off-topic so far I'll just mention that I'm definitely trying that seedy hotel in the main hood thing. I have a few romance sims that would be perfect for! I hope it works.

Inge:
Well there were several differences between your circumstances and the McCanns
1. due to the use of a baby monitor, you were within earshot all the time in case of choking or screaming
2. the distance they would need to cover to get to you in an emergency was a few seconds away, not a few minutes
3. the journey for you to find your parents when you did so was in a relatively safe building, not across a couple of roads and past an uncovered swimming pool.

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