Starting over, 'hood-wise

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themaltesebippy:
Quote from: Li'l Brudder on 2007 May 27, 05:34:00

Nobody ever says anything about eating said sandwich.


That's because the sandwich is for ME whelp!!

Count Four:
I followed all advice and got Strangetown set up nicely, with custom townies added and it's great, thanks.  I played Strangetown for a few days, fiddling with the natives and adding a couple of my sims.

Last night, I got ready to start my custom hood. Picked a (default) template and gave it the name 'Skygusty'. The game did its "Creating Skygusty" thing. When it got to the part where it generates weather (or whatever it says), the game crashed.

When I restarted it, I had two hoods showing in game.  The first one is named "Weather". It has that green grid picture and the description is something like 'New Seasons Neighborhood' or similar. There is no option to delete it in game; the little trash can ain't there. Strangetown is now the second hood.

Since I had made backups, I tried again to create a new custom hood without deleting the "Weather" hood.  This time it worked fine, and my new custom hood is working, is placed as the third nieghborhood, has some custom townies and one sim moved in.

In C:\My Documents\...The Sims 2\Nieghborhoods, I have-- N001, N001-bak, N002, N003 and Tutorial folders, and the NeighborhoodManager.package.

C:\Documents\...\N001 contains-- Characters, Lots, Storytelling and Thumbnails folders, and N001_Neighborhood.package, N001_Neighborhood.png and N001_Suburb001.package. 
The Characters, Lots and Storytelling folders are empty.
The Thumbnails folder contains N001_FamilyThumbnails.package.
The N001_Neighborhood.png is a pic of the default template I chose for my custom hood.

C:\Documents\...\N001-bak contains: Characters and Lots folders, N001_Neighborhood.package, N001_Neighborhood.png and N001_Neighborhood.reia. The Characters and Lots folders are full of files.  The .png is the Pleasantview picture.

N002 is my new Strangetown. N003 is my custom hood, created last night.

What did I miss or do wrong?
Can I delete the useless N001 and/or N001-bak from C:\My Documents...\Neighborhoods with no weirdness afterward?
If I delete N001 (the "Weather" one), will the game just do the same thing when I create another custom hood?
Should I have moved N001-bak from C:\Program Files, instead of just renaming it? I followed Jordi's tutorial and it says only to rename N001 in Program Files.  I did not download a clean template for Pleasantview, since I don't want Pleasantview in my game.

(I zipped the default templates for OFB, NightLife and Seasons and moved them to a safe place.  Then replaced them with the empty templates according to instructions. I haven't tried adding any subhoods at all yet.)

SaraMK:
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N001, N001-bak,

You CAN NOT have renamed neighborhoods (backups) inside the My Documents\EA Games\ directory. The game will still read them, no matter what they're called. You basically have the same neighborhood installed twice, and the game will not like that. I don't know if that's causing your problems, but it's the first thing you need to fix.

Count Four:
Quote from: SaraMK on 2007 June 02, 07:03:55

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N001, N001-bak,

You CAN NOT have renamed neighborhoods (backups) inside the My Documents\EA Games\ directory. The game will still read them, no matter what they're called. You basically have the same neighborhood installed twice, and the game will not like that. I don't know if that's causing your problems, but it's the first thing you need to fix.


How I ended up with N001-bak in Documents...\Neighborhoods, I'm not sure. There was no Documents...\Neighborhoods folder when the game was started with the cleaned up/empty templates. I backed up, installed empty and cleaned up templates in the proper places (with the tutorials open for reference) and then moved the Documents...\Neighborhoods folder bodily to the desktop.
After starting game, that Seasons hood (which I still can't remember the name of), Strangtown and Veronaville were regenerated and showed up in the Main Menu.
I deleted Seasons hood and Veronaville from Main Menu.

The only place N001-bak, with a Pleasantview .png, could have come from is Program Files.
The N001 folder in Program Files was renamed to N001-bak according to the instructions in Jordi's tutorial; the only instruction in that tutorial was to rename Program Files...\N001.

I suspect this might be a result of having Program Files...\N001-bak with no other Pleasantview template while the game is regenerating the whole Documents...\Neighborhoods folder.

But I'll delete the N001 hoods in Documents.
The only crash I've had was making a custom hood, and that seems to be something to do with Seasons.

SaraMK:
It sounds like it probably did come from Program Files. The game simply copies everything from over there. It doesn't do any checks to see if what's in there is what's supposed to be in there. You'll want to move those N00#-bak folders out of the UserData folder.

As for your problem, look in Program Files under Seasons, and see if you did anything similarly screwy in there. For example, a -bak folder in there could result in the game trying to attach the Seasons sub-hood (which is weather) to your neighborhood twice.

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