marriage and last names.
gali:
Exuse me, be all of you are out of the point...:).
The point is - if I play a family which has only daughters, with JM hack I actually DELETE this family name and can't continue the legacy of it, because the girl will get her husband's last name. Only if I have a boy - I can keep the legacy. And if I don't? What I have to do then? Perish the family?
It has nothing to do with the real world (traditional or not). If I choose to play a family, I want at least one of it's kids to continue the legacy.
I want to have the option to decide which will be the last name.
For instance - Lilith and Angela are the only daughters of Pleasant family. If they marry (doesn't matter whom) and get their husband's name (usual Dreamer and Broke) - I perished the Pleasant family legacy, period!
So, as Brandi Broke has many sons, I give Angela to marry Dustin, and he will be Dustin Pleasant - and Beau can marry some other girl, and give her his family name (Broke).
Thus I keep both families' legacy.
The JM hack needs an option of exception, and it hasn't - that's why it's not convenient for me sometimes. "Nothing personal - strictly business"...:).
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: gali on 2005 August 05, 09:14:50
The point is - if I play a family which has only daughters, with JM hack I actually DELETE this family name and can't continue the legacy of it, because the girl will get her husband's last name. Only if I have a boy - I can keep the legacy. And if I don't? What I have to do then? Perish the family?
I think you're confusing the continuation of the name with the bloodline. Like in the real world, this happens. When people become very concerned about this, there's a certain bias towards a male heir.
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For instance - Lilith and Angela are the only daughters of Pleasant family. If they marry (doesn't matter whom) and get their husband's name (usual Dreamer and Broke) - I perished the Pleasant family legacy, period!
That depends on how you define "perished the Pleasant family legacy". Unless the house is abandoned entirely, there's still going to be a "Pleasant Family" listed, even if nobody shares that name anymore. For instance, in my neighborhood, there's still a Pleasant family, even though there are now no living sims by that name. The legacy continues.
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So, as Brandi Broke has many sons, I give Angela to marry Dustin, and he will be Dustin Pleasant - and Beau can marry some other girl, and give her his family name (Broke).
Thus I keep both families' legacy.
Ironically and sadistically, in the next geenration, there isn't going to be an actual "Broke" family name either, since none of Brandi's 3 boys has managed to produce any male heir. Oh, the luck and the irony.
And actually, there *IS* a way to preserve a name with the aforementioned hack in place: As I mentioned before, babies always take the mother's last name at time of birth. If the baby is born BEFORE they are married, the child will then carry the name. For instance, in the above case: if Dustin pollinates Angela, who gives birth before the actual marriage, or one never occurs, you'll have a new baby with the Pleasant name.
ZephyrZodiac:
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Ironically and sadistically, in the next geenration, there isn't going to be an actual "Broke" family name either, since none of Brandi's 3 boys has managed to produce any male heir. Oh, the luck and the irony.
That may be so in your game, but both Dustin and Beau always manage to produce sons in mine - but they don't usually marry Maxis sims. On the one occasion when Dustin married a Pleasant, he married Lilith, not Angela, and they had a son.
The only Broke in my game who consistently has daughters is the youngest, Keanu, and he has never married an existing Maxis sim, but frequently ends up in a gay relationship.
gali:
"And actually, there *IS* a way to preserve a name with the aforementioned hack in place: As I mentioned before, babies always take the mother's last name at time of birth. If the baby is born BEFORE they are married, the child will then carry the name. For instance, in the above case: if Dustin pollinates Angela, who gives birth before the actual marriage, or one never occurs, you'll have a new baby with the Pleasant name." (JM)
Lol, now I AM the traditional one...:). I don't permit any couple of mine to woohoo, if they are not engaged first, not to speak about having a baby before marriage...:).
I permit it only to Romance males, without having any other alternative for them - but I have never had a baby if the parents are not married, even the Romance sims - I just force them to marry, even if they pay a lot of aspiration points.
Well, I am on your side now - traditional?...:).
ZephyrZodiac:
Why not the romance females - they have the same LTWs and Wants - not just traditional but mysogynist to boot!
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