marriage and last names.
witch:
Until I started following this thread I didn't even realise I played matrilineal n'hoods. I've never understood why people keep getting concerned over their sims names, my kids are named after their mother, end of story. Sometimes sims will get married in my game, but very rarely.
In real life I think the practice of hyphenating names is idiotic, you've only got to look one generation down to see what happens when two hyphenated names get together. I don't believe my last name was a holy gift from God, in fact I changed both my names, first and last, by deedpoll a dozen years ago purely because I didn't like my original names.
Sidenote: My son was about 11 when I changed my name. I asked him if he would like to change his last name to his father's one, or my new one or did he have any other ideas. He said he'd think about it. A couple of days later he said he'd decided. I asked what he would like to be named. 'Darth Vader' he said. :-\ ;D
ZephyrZodiac:
Original!
Liss:
hehehe....sounds like something my son would do.
I wasn't really distressed when I started this thread, was just wondering what was going on. In one of my hoods I recreated the Mayfair witches (Anne Rice) and they always keep their own last name or they don't inherit anything. I think the traditional marriage hack is actually a neat idea, at least more realistic. I just didn't know it existed. I just put my trust in JMP and installed the whole MATY zip. I have since taken that particular mod out though :D
I am just happy that my game works now, even with my monster, character-crowded hoods.
SimsHost:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2005 August 05, 08:24:19
Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 August 05, 07:42:17
Or also, there's the Spanish tradition of keeping both names. Perhaps what's needed is an alternative hack which allows the player to choose the name, after all, the household name is already determined and may well be different from either party.
I recall that as a result, Spanish names get incredibly unwieldy until they're finally truncated for usability. The same problem obviously manifests itself with the new practice of hyphenated names (which I consider to be an abomination!).
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Spanish children's names are built using fathers_surname y mothers_surname. For instance, Juan de Gomez y Andara would have a father named Gomez and a mother named Andara. Never call him Mr. Andara unless you want a black eye, because that implies he doesn't know who his father is. It's perfectly OK to call him Mr. Gomez.
Now, when Juan de Gomez y Andara marries Carlita de Pratz y Edda, their son's name takes each of the parents' father's surnames, such as Paco de Gomez y Pratz. So even in Spanish names, the patrilineal heritage is maintained.
And yeah, what you said about hyphens.
ZephyrZodiac:
It actually makes sense even today to use the father's surname for the child. After all, the child has to have one of it's parent's last names and using the father's shows, in a sense, that the father has recognised his obligations to the child! And the child of unmarried parents needs this acknowledgement even more since there is no other way a father can show to the world that the child is his if the parents choose not to marry for whatever reason. Incidentally, by registering the birth in the father's name shows that, if the relationship breaks down, the mother has also accepted that the father is the fathre, which then gives the father some rights too.
Hey, I'm getting caught up here in a tangle of probably very dodgy reasoning. I'll shut up!
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