Error codes 12 and 13 along with crashing.
Lorea:
O, it was you! But with an other name.. If I knew you wrote it I didn't write it here.
For a week I get error 12 every day. I don't know what causes that. I don't use cheats (just very rarely) and testingcheatsenabled.
And I have no bugs or weird things in my game.. It's strange but true. I have only one problem, the error 12.
And error 13, but I can solve that.
I noticed too that moveobjects on cheat has problems that's why I don't use that either. I don't have problem with ghosts but I see them rarely, I don't play with them.
Only thing what I've done is forcing opportunities.. I wanted to complete Guitar Star challenge. Yesterday finally I could complete (with NRaas OpportunityControl) and after that I couldn't save because of the error 12.
What I noticed relates with AM. I use autosave option. It saves my game in every hour. I set 2 saves to keep. I noticed that the first two savings are unproblematic but I get error 12 during the third save. Maybe that would happened if I don't use AM just save myself for three times, I don't know.
Edit: I played again and now I got error 12 message during the second save. But the first save is always succesful. I know you said the four cache files don't relate to this error, but I delete them before every play and I can save for the first time.
I forgot that I have a bug. Most of my sims who go to sleep after 3AM always wake up at 7AM or 10AM (most of the time is 10AM) no matter if they're still really tired. Once I set alarm clock for a sim to 7 and 10AM but I don't know if it can be the problem because all hosuehold wake up not just that one and I already switched it off but the sims still wake up tired at 7 or 10 AM.
And one more thing I noticed. If I use NRaas' SimSelector I always get error 12 during the next save.
Steele:
Lorea, perhap you could try these commands from Awesomemod and see what results you get:
1. Fixall - somehow sims get bugged after playing for more than 2-3 hours especially when the neighborhood has lots of history in it.
2. Towderelicts - Derelict cars clutters and just adds to the objects in your cache.
3. Resetallwants
Also try from the NRaas Supercomputer
1. Recover Lost Sims - Lost sims can cause error 12s
2. Recover Wandering Toddlers - Not sure if this also causes the errors but it's worth trying
3. Turn off stereos - just making sure.
If every result of these are clean (without any fixes made) and still encountering error 12s try
1. Destroyalltownies
2. Destroyallnpcs
Of course make a backup save before trying. If nothing works, perhaps it's a type of bug I haven't encountered yet. I may need a copy of your save game to experiment with.
In the meantime, if you say that you get the errors at the 3rd hour, since AM is set to autosave, maybe it would be best that you quit your game and reload it after the 2nd save. It will prolong your game for another 2 hours since the cache will get refreshed when you quit the game. The waiting time will be less of a problem than re-doing all the lost work.
Lorea:
I tried those with no luck. Those things help me if I get error 13 but not for error 12..
I edited my previous comment.
Steele:
Quote from: Lorea on 2009 October 09, 18:44:31
Edit: I played again and now I got error 12 message during the second save. But the first save is always succesful. I know you said the four cache files don't relate to this error, but I delete them before every play and I can save for the first time.
I forgot that I have a bug. Most of my sims who go to sleep after 3AM always wake up at 7AM or 10AM (most of the time is 10AM) no matter if they're still really tired. Once I set alarm clock for a sim to 7 and 10AM but I don't know if it can be the problem because all hosuehold wake up not just that one and I already switched it off but the sims still wake up tired at 7 or 10 AM.
And one more thing I noticed. If I use NRaas' SimSelector I always get error 12 during the next save.
Have you tried removing all the hacks / mods and Custom Contents as well as store items and just play the game vanilla? A patched game would be okay. Sometimes playing it without hacks will reveal what problem is causing the error 12s. Though in my case removing the hacks the game started going weird seemed like a nightmare. But that experience showed me what's really causing my game to bug.
Also, could you recall any mods that you removed before having this error problem? I tried Kolipoki's Plant roasts and links mod when I removed them days after, my sims started getting bugs. Do you have any similar incidents?
If you do have any hacks removed, maybe it is better to reinstall the game and only apply the patch and re-load your old save and play normally.
Another suggestion, if you have the time try going into every lot in the game and see if there are immovable graves inside or any weird stuff that you'll consider a bug. Try deleting those you deem irrelevant and problematic. It will not only reduce possible / potential error 12s but also help in error 13s. I mentioned immovable graves because some sims die inside the lot and the game failed to transfer it to the mausoleum, it will register to the game as default graves like Eric Darling's (crumplebottom) grave or the ones at the cemetery. For my game, the tombs at the Jones and Goth houses are movable but Eric Darling's isn't.
J. M. Pescado:
Have you tried using s3rc to ensmallen and debloatify your saves? It's possible that there is sufficient retained cruft to overload the save process.
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