Important notice from the GRAMMAR POLICE. Plz read. This means you.
Jelenedra:
My guess as to when sentence fragments are okay:
If the sentence being in a fragment adds something to the style or the voice of the writing. If it doesn't contribute anything, then it just makes you sound like a tard. In other words, if it doesn't benefit from being a sentence fragment, why do it?
Anyways, the only time you really see sentence fragments as acceptable forms of expression would be during first person narratives. They have no place in essays (except maybe one about personal opinions or a non-English class essay question).
Quotations would be another exception.
(((Of course, I am by no means an expert. No surprise there. Most of it just seems to be common sense.)))
In a forum, you can get away with more sentence fragments than you would in other forms of expression. Considering that you are "talking" on a forum. The only time you see people get jumped on for fragments on a forum is when you get a hamtard that communicates like this:
"lololol totaly broke my game. My sim was bed bath now hall chair lololol do u noe what happeneded?"
or
Quote from: stephyd on 2009 July 27, 14:30:35
whayay man/hinny, divn't get yer niccas in a twist!
WTF was that? Seriously, WTF was that?
rufio:
Quote from: Jelenedra on 2009 July 27, 14:41:28
If the sentence being in a fragment adds something to the style or the voice of the writing. If it doesn't contribute anything, then it just makes you sound like a tard. In other words, if it doesn't benefit from being a sentence fragment, why do it?
This is my intuition also, but apparently there is some kind of hierarchy of Who Is Allowed To Use Fragments and Who Is Not Allowed To Use Fragments here.
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exceptable
You mean "acceptable".
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In a forum, you can get away with more sentence fragments than you would in other forms of expression. Considering that you are "talking" on a forum. The only time you see people get jumped on for fragments on a forum is when you get a hamtard that communicates like this:
"lololol totaly broke my game. My sim was bed bath now hall chair lololol do u noe what happeneded?"
And that's why I was wondering why Midwing was getting jumped on.
Jelenedra:
Quote from: rufio on 2009 July 27, 16:04:49
Quote from: Jelenedra on 2009 July 27, 14:41:28
If the sentence being in a fragment adds something to the style or the voice of the writing. If it doesn't contribute anything, then it just makes you sound like a tard. In other words, if it doesn't benefit from being a sentence fragment, why do it?
This is my intuition also, but apparently there is some kind of hierarchy of Who Is Allowed To Use Fragments and Who Is Not Allowed To Use Fragments here.
I think there this an unspoken rule about n00bs blasting out grammar fragments like a grenade went off in their first few posts. It seems to be the difference between standing respectably while the teacher introduces you to a new classroom and jumping up on a school desk and doing the Bartman dance.
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You mean "acceptable".
Yes, I did. Sorry. :P Three edits, and I missed that each time.
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In a forum, you can get away with more sentence fragments than you would in other forms of expression. Considering that you are "talking" on a forum. The only time you see people get jumped on for fragments on a forum is when you get a hamtard that communicates like this:
"lololol totaly broke my game. My sim was bed bath now hall chair lololol do u noe what happeneded?"
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And that's why I was wondering why Midwing was getting jumped on.
I can't answer that one, I skimmed over Midwing's intro to the thread.
jolrei:
I think that after 34 pages of this totally interesting go-nowhere argument between rufio and pretty much everyone else (special recognition to rohina for persistence), it behooves us to revisit the original purpose of this thread, just for nostalgia's sake.
Quote from: rohina on 2009 May 29, 03:54:34
Since the tidal wave of sheep shows no sign of letting up, and the most important task is sorting the occasional nugget of wheat from the chaff, Pescado has strongly suggested that grammatical errors and other behaviour demanding the sharp spork be handled by a barrage of PMs, rather than excessive poking in the thread. You may also like to take your guffaws to any relevant thread in RL, such as Miss Sheeple 2009.
I will be taking notice of the naughty and the nice with regard to respecting this decree, for Grammar Day Awards purposes. If warranted, someone can make a thread in RL to post the butthurt responses to the PM barrage.
Thank you for co-operation.
OH, and if you are a SHEEP reading this, then FUCKING LEARN TO SPELL, ASSHOLE.
See? It wasn't even remotely about rufio. I find this refreshing and enlightening.
Also, the word "futility" springs to mind. (Yes, I know one should not start a sentence with "also" - it's non-standard.)
rohina:
rufio, I answered your question; Lorelei gave you a similar answer in a different way; hell, even Jelly gestured at an answer, although hers is very simplistic. What you want is a set of rules for when it is okay to use a fragment; but there aren't "rules" in the way you want them. The point I was making with the questions I gave you was that if you can explain the stylistic function of a fragment, then it may have "merit" or be arguably effective.
Since you aren't really capable of understanding rhetorical analysis - it isn't about "interpretation" the way you appear to think - it isn't possible to explain the mechanics of it to you in any sophisticated way. I would suggest you take Jelly's simplistic explanation and be satisfied.
Following the rule, then, of "you can use fragments for effect if you have demonstrated you know the difference between a complete sentence and an incomplete sentence," Midwing is fail because its previous attempts at sentences had included gibberish, and the fragment it wrote was dreadful both stylistically and from a "your sentence, do she make any sense" point of view.
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