Important notice from the GRAMMAR POLICE. Plz read. This means you.
Annan:
Quote from: Tsarina on 2009 July 03, 18:55:51
Quote from: Annan on 2009 July 03, 18:43:56
If Danish is anything like Swedish, there are rules for which words are en or et/ett, but they haven't been taught in ages. My grandmother was taught it when she had grammar in school (she's born in 1919), but I don't think my mother was. In my grammar classes the teachers said it "didn't matter", "because everyone knows it by sound", which makes me curious of how they teach it to immigrants (my guess is they don't, BTW).
This is interesting. I will have to look it up. Thanks for mentioning it.
Especially because with the amount of English words in the language, those rules are needed to not make people sound like retards.
The Swedish rules are here http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantiv, but the Danish page on nouns on Wikipedia is retarded and doesn't say anything about it. :/
Jelenedra:
Quote from: soozelwoozel on 2009 July 03, 18:51:30
Oh look, rufio has diversified and is now sharing his grammar learnings (or lack thereof) in more than just his mother tongue. Non English speakers the world over will now rejoice that they no longer have to follow his ramblings with subtitles. Huzzah!
Don't encourage it. We get more than enough in English grammar threads.
Tsarina:
Quote from: Annan on 2009 July 03, 18:57:36
The Swedish rules are here http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantiv, but the Danish page on nouns on Wikipedia is retarded and doesn't say anything about it. :/
The Danish Wikipedia is generally very bad. I suspect I'll have to drag myself to the library and find books on the subject :P
ZeKat:
Quote from: Annan on 2009 July 03, 18:43:56
If Danish is anything like Swedish, there are rules for which words are en or et/ett, but they haven't been taught in ages. My grandmother was taught it when she had grammar in school (she's born in 1919), but I don't think my mother was. In my grammar classes the teachers said it "didn't matter", "because everyone knows it by sound", which makes me curious of how they teach it to immigrants (my guess is they don't, BTW).
Yeah, I am pretty sure that there are rules somewhere, but I have never ever actually heard of them. Not even when I lived in the Faeroe Islands where Danish is taught as a second language. So they aren't taught, native Danes are just expected to know.
Fake edit: I went and looked it up, and there is NOTHING about en/et in my huge Danish dictionary. They must expect you to learn them by heart, since every single word is marked as either en or et, but there is no rule mentioned.
The closest I can get to a rule is that things with a gender is "en", the rest is it. So a man, woman, cow, girl and so on, is "en". A house or a tree is "et". However, a sheep is also "et", and a rock is "en", so the rule only takes you so far...
I am pretty sure immigrants are taught to look every single word up and memorize it, really.
Quote from: Tsarina on 2009 July 03, 19:14:14
The Danish Wikipedia is generally very bad.
Well, there's too few editors. There's only like 6 million people who speak Danish worldwide. Most Danes I know only use the English one anyway, except the ones who are 12 and no speak no English.
Jelenedra:
Quote from: ZeKat on 2009 July 03, 19:23:25
Fake edit: I went and looked it up, and there is NOTHING about en/et in my huge Danish dictionary. They must expect you to learn them by heart, since every single word is marked as either en or et, but there is no rule mentioned.
The closest I can get to a rule is that things with a gender is "en", the rest is it. So a man, woman, cow, girl and so on, is "en". A house or a tree is "et". However, a sheep is also "et", and a rock is "en", so the rule only takes you so far...
I am pretty sure immigrants are taught to look every single word up and memorize it, really.
Maybe because rocks come from "Mother" Earth? *shrugs* Lots of weird stuff like that.
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