Crash while saving after playing a while
talysman:
Quote from: jdanddpt on 2008 March 31, 19:59:45
I've been going lot by lot, Clearing Trash. It's slow going. Killed maybe 10,000 objects so far (plus the 15,000 from Clearing Gossip).
Looking at my Sims' memories, I see another source of massive memory spam... Family Reunions. Pages and pages of "Had a Family Reunion" on many of my Sims. It's due to a tangled web of a few very large, multi-generational families in the neighborhood, combined with lots of House Parties. As a result, seemingly every party is a "Family Reunion."
Comparing the number of "Met X Sim" memories to the number of "Had a Family Reunion" memories, I'd say there are probably 15,000+ Family Reunion memories in the whole neighborhood.
Are those important for anything? And, if not, is there any way to easily mass-delete them? And is there a way to prevent new ones from being created?
Don't know the answers to most of those questions, but here's a (partial) answer to the last: there's a no reunion memory hack, but I only see it in the Nightlife-compatible directory, not the others. Don't know if it's still compatible, but you could try it.
ZephyrZodiac:
I think that's part of the trash that gets cleaned up, anyway I don't have that hack in any more, and I'm only running up to Seasons. Saying that, I haven't used the clean up trash option in this game, do it manually in SimPE as there are one or two memories I want to keep for the moment, and I haven't seen the family reunion one in a long time. Mind you, my sims at present aren't throwing many parties....I tend to use the groups option for family members and I have a feeling this doesn't throw up that memory.
However, since JM's hack is, you say, only in the NL folder and nothing later, it may be one of the few things Maxis cleaned up.......
jdanddpt:
I still see the Family Reunion memory spam on my Sims even after Clearing Trash, so the lot debugger's Clear Trash apparently doesn't touch them.
I'll look into which Sims have the spam... it might be my really "old" Sims that were alive pre-NL. If so, then maybe the issue was fixed post-NL. If so, then it's probably not as bad as I thought. My estimate of 15,000 Family Reunion memories was based on what I saw on the first batch of Sims that I used Clear Trash on, and I specifically targetted my "oldest" Sims first, for maximum effect. Some of them date back to pre-Uni days.
So far my record for "Clear Trash" is 442 objects cleared on one guy. Awesome! He is a Romance/party animal, spun off from a generation of my Legacy that had 11 children, who attended Uni, threw tons of parties, built the ultimate party palace, and is still partying at almost 90 years old... I hope he croaks in the hot tub with 3 colllege girls... that would be perfect. Anyway...
Second place goes to my current Legacy heir, who had 380-something objects cleared. She's popular, too.
I love this tool. After clearing Gossip and a few thousand Trash, I played a business lot for ~2 hours without crashing. So far, so good!
ZephyrZodiac:
I think you're right, they must be old memories - JM used to have a noreunionspam hack, but it was discontinued way back, so obviously it was no longer needed, but of course, if you didn't have it in your game when it was needed, you would have got the spam. I think in your case it would be worth going through every set of memories in SimPE to see what else has been left behind from the early days! I appreciate it would be a mammoth undertaking if you did it all at once, but provided you keep getting rid of gossip on a regular basis it should only be a case of, ok, I've played family a, b and c, so now I'll just check that everything in their memories is ok.
Also worth checking manually in sim relations for relationships with unmet sims, and in particular relationships with simself. These can be deleted in Sim Relations, but you need to save for them to truly be gone, and then you need to check the Relations panel in Sim Description for those relationships and make sure you set them to unrelated by rightclicking on them and checking the unrelated option. Then commit, and when you've done that for each one, (I use the option at the top of the list so that all the relationships show in one fell swoop) click that option to reload, and those relationships should no longer be visible in the related list. Once you have saved that, those relationships should only return if your sim is in contact with them again (usually happens when they are walking by on another lot), although relationships with self sometimes seem to return when they have a birthday. Don't bother, though, about NPCs, those relationships will keep returning, so there's no point in getting rid of them.
Also, check for any relationships with unknowns, these should also be cleared out.
In a hood with only about 100 playables, I've managed to get rid of up to 1,000 useless relationships this way, and in a hood the size of yours it just adds to the bloat. (Only clear out those relationships which are clearly shown as unknown to each other and make sure you get both - if one of them is shown as known, then you're probably best leaving it in, as sometimes that sim will phone your sim and it can be a way of adding to your sim's list of friends. Quite often it happens when they are chatting online, you find they have an "unknown" relationship with other sims that were online at the time, but they won't be in their phone-book, so to my mind at least they are totally useless.
Nec:
Glad to hear it seems to be helping :)
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