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Free Time Facts And Learnings
« on: 2008 February 27, 18:14:55 »
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Here are some interesting learnings deciphered thus far:

I. LTA Milestones
You receive an LTA point for achieving each of the following milestones:
0x01: Have/Adopt Child
0x02: Best Friend
0x03: Marry/Join
0x04: First Kiss
0x05: First WooHoo
0x06: Housebroken
0x07: Walked
0x08: Talked
0x09: ?? Appears Unused ??
0x0A: Become Adult
0x0B: Graduate
0x0C: Max Career
0x0D: Max Enthusiasm
0x0E: LTW
0x0F: ?? Appears Unused ??
0x10: Max Business
0x11: Wish Peace

Milestones may only be achieved once, repeats do not appear to help. CAS and pre-FT sims receive, by age:
Baby/Toddler: 0
Child: 2
Teen: 3
Adult: 5
Elder: 6

As a rule, pre-FT adults and elders get severely ripped off, and possibly teens also.
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« Reply #1 on: 2008 February 27, 19:17:09 »
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What is "Wish Peace"? Is that something to do with the genie?
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« Reply #2 on: 2008 February 27, 19:17:39 »
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What is "Wish Peace"? Is that something to do with the genie?
That is how it would appear. I have no information regarding the genie at this time.
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« Reply #3 on: 2008 February 27, 20:12:33 »
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What is "Wish Peace"? Is that something to do with the genie?

You can wish for peace of mind. I assume this is what that means.
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« Reply #4 on: 2008 February 27, 23:16:34 »
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wish for peace is the same as gaining permaplat...
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« Reply #5 on: 2008 February 27, 23:29:25 »
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Is a point awarded for obtaining all of the BV mementos?
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« Reply #6 on: 2008 February 28, 03:14:12 »
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No. The only milestones listed are above. Some milestones appear not to give an LTA point, like the Toddler milestones give nothing individually, it seems you need them all to gain a point.
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« Reply #7 on: 2008 February 28, 10:38:13 »
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Prima Guide Lies:

To completely fill the meter you need 30,000 points

You get the points for the following events,
Adopt/Give Birth(1200)
Level 10 Buisiness(1200)
Savvy Traveller Memento Moniker(900)
Fall in love(1200)
First Kiss(1200)
First Woohoo(1500)
Get Married/Joined(1200)
Graduate From College(1200)
Graduate From High School(600)
Level 10 Career(1200)
Level 10 Hobby(900)
Satisfy Lifetime Want(1200)
Potty Trained(600)
Learn To Walk(600)
Learn to Talk(600)
Learned Nursery Rhyme(600).

Points are also added from the daily aspiration every hour ( or subtracted if they are in the red)
Toddlers get between -42 and 81 per hour
Children get between -21 and 40 per hour
Teens get between -14 and 26 per hour
Young Adults get between -2 and 4 per hour
Adults get between -10 and 20 per hour
Elders get between -14 and 26 per hour

The scoring rate for Young Adults is lower so Uni sims do not have too much of an advantage over sims that do not go to uni.
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« Reply #8 on: 2008 February 28, 14:20:41 »
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What is involved in "Graduate from high school"? Do they need to get a certain grade? If not it seems a bit of a cop out as it would happen unavoidably and at the same time as "become adult"
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« Reply #9 on: 2008 February 28, 15:08:25 »
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I think it means the same thing as Become Adult, only worded in some kind of sappy pro-12 way.
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« Reply #10 on: 2008 February 29, 17:46:45 »
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So what is it with the weekly, "Oh I had a great week!" pop-ups? How are those measured and what is their worth?
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« Reply #11 on: 2008 February 29, 18:27:32 »
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Prima Guide Lies:

To completely fill the meter you need 30,000 points

You get the points for the following events,
Adopt/Give Birth(1200)
Level 10 Buisiness(1200)
Savvy Traveller Memento Moniker(900)
Fall in love(1200)
First Kiss(1200)
First Woohoo(1500)
Get Married/Joined(1200)
Graduate From College(1200)
Graduate From High School(600)
Level 10 Career(1200)
Level 10 Hobby(900)
Satisfy Lifetime Want(1200)
Potty Trained(600)
Learn To Walk(600)
Learn to Talk(600)
Learned Nursery Rhyme(600).

So, First Woohoo is the top-scoring achievement, and it beats such things as graduating from college, satisfying one's lifetime want, and reaching the top of the career track.  Can you say "Programmed by people who don't have a life?" :-)
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« Reply #12 on: 2008 February 29, 20:32:40 »
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Ok, really. If you had a choice between spending four years of time working and a whole lot of money for a piece of paper, becoming a mindless drone only good for looking after grandchildren, doing the daily grind-and-suck-up dance, or getting it on, which would you choose?
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« Reply #13 on: 2008 February 29, 20:42:55 »
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Getting it on! Cheesy

Maybe because such a fuss is made of your first 'woohoo'... because woohoo is such a bad thing.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: 2008 March 01, 17:42:55 »
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All the Prima Guide info can be considered not-true, as it is clear that the "Nursery Rhyme" milestone does not exist. That similarly renders all of the other information obvious fabrication.
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« Reply #15 on: 2008 March 01, 20:32:12 »
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Ok, really. If you had a choice between spending four years of time working and a whole lot of money for a piece of paper, becoming a mindless drone only good for looking after grandchildren, doing the daily grind-and-suck-up dance, or getting it on, which would you choose?

I'm not denying the essential preferability of woohoo to much of the rest of life, just saying that it's not much of an ACHIEVEMENT.
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« Reply #16 on: 2008 March 02, 12:55:38 »
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I'm not denying the essential preferability of woohoo to much of the rest of life, just saying that it's not much of an ACHIEVEMENT.

I wouldn't say that... I know people for whom even getting touched would be an achievement Wink.
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« Reply #17 on: 2008 March 02, 15:10:45 »
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I'm not denying the essential preferability of woohoo to much of the rest of life, just saying that it's not much of an ACHIEVEMENT.

I wouldn't say that... I know people for whom even getting touched would be an achievement Wink.

Like, say, EAxis programmers?  Roll Eyes
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I'm not denying the essential preferability of woohoo to much of the rest of life, just saying that it's not much of an ACHIEVEMENT.

I wouldn't say that... I know people for whom even getting touched would be an achievement Wink.

Like, say, EAxis programmers?  Roll Eyes

And that was my original point -- that this rating scheme seems to have been set up by people who aren't getting enough. :-)
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« Reply #19 on: 2008 March 03, 12:23:48 »
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Like, say, EAxis programmers?  Roll Eyes

Obviously Cheesy - I've noticed that romance power wants (2 loves, woohoo 5 etc.) seem to fill up the meter pretty fast, though they're not listed above.
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« Reply #20 on: 2008 March 03, 20:01:33 »
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what about the maxing of ones Skillzzz
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« Reply #21 on: 2008 March 06, 17:11:44 »
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Either it is not working right in my game or it functions differently than it is described. Anyway, one of my sims trained a toddler with Freetime installed and the toddler got two LTA points, apparently for learning to walk and for the potty training.
Now I just had a student having his first woohoo but he got no LTA point for that. Generally the students got 4 points, but I noticed that some that had a gold or platinum aspiration level already have 5 points and he was one of them. The same is true for some of my teenagers and one child, they got an extra point, apparently because of their aspiration level.
So it seems that instead of getting a point for a milestone, the milestone tends to push the meter above a certain limit. Looking at some of the scores, more than 9000 points equal five LTA points, but to get to six the sim needs a score higher than 13000 (?, I was judging from the only elder, Mortimer), which would explain why the student did not get a LTA point.
Thinking about it, it would make more sense that way. Take a romance sim with a fear to get married, force him or her through it (and into aspiration failure) it should theoretically be possible to balance out the milestone effect, which would be more plausible than to award a LTA point to a sim with a nervous breakdown.
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« Reply #22 on: 2008 March 06, 18:50:32 »
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Has anyone actually managed to get a Perma-Plat sim since FreeTime?
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« Reply #23 on: 2008 March 06, 18:52:05 »
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Yes.  Post FT installed, newly-Permaplat sims appear to function normally.
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« Reply #24 on: 2008 March 06, 20:56:48 »
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Yes.  Post FT installed, newly-Permaplat sims appear to function normally.

My experience as well.  Permaplat as adult - now an elder and still chugging along fine on platinum aspiration.
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