Survey on VS
Motoki:
Quote from: Inge on 2005 October 29, 12:36:29
That means that the people following her link didn't see the details which *did* inform us of the copyright inserts (it only started with CEP3, 1 and 2 did not have inserts).
So this is new? Well then I guess the TSR issues had nothing to do with it then. I have no idea what prompted him to do this or what he was thinking then. Not that I care at all or have any problem with it. *shrug*
I also don't know why Numenor doesn't host it on his own page but I do think of the 2 places hosting it, it's better hosted at Quaxi's place. For one it's much easier to find as you don't have to sift through all the junk. Also as you noted people can't be banned because it's on a page and not a forum. And I think Quaxi's place is far more neutral as he hasn't pissed off nearly as many people as Delphy has. :P
I do think he should have made mention of that whole copyright thing on ambertation though, but maybe it was Quaxi who updated the page and he didn't think to mention it or Numenor didn't think to tell him to put a blurb about that up.
I think Numenor's kind of walking on shaky ground a bit by adding this so late in the game. While I personally could give a hot damn, a lot of people are really touchy about all this silly copyright nonsense. I know when they first made CEP one of their big things was they wanted one standard so there would not be conflicts. I know Danny (RGiles) at least really disliked the paysites and TSR in particular but they agreed to let them use it because they felt they had no choice. Otherwise they'd come up with their own CEP which would likely conflict with their CEP and inevitably some users would end up with both which would be a nightmare.
Adding something like new this now after all this time runs the very real risk that some people who take great offense to it for whatever reason may well go and make their own and that's something we definitely do NOT want.
Bangelnuts:
Quote from: Carrigon on 2005 October 29, 04:31:23
Quote from: Inge on 2005 October 21, 12:07:14
Motoki: But isn't Carrigon the one who thinks CEP can damage your boot sector?
, there is no telling what could happen the next time. And that is why I was fighting. On top of that, I do not believe it is
I'm a freedom fighter and I was fighting for the rights of creators. I don't really care who agrees with me or disagrees with me. But I will bow down to no posers and I will not have my files compromised without my consent. And anyone who really looks at the way they did it will understand how hidden it was. It was designed so that you wouldn't see it unless you were looking for it. That is what makes what they did so dangerous. I do believe that was the first step before doing something far worse. And I would hope that the creators of the community would understand this.
Hmm this sounds a bit paranoid to me .Im not a creator at the moment as I am still learning how to use the modding tools .but even for a lay person like me I fail to see what damage inserting who created the latest version of cep and the site linkage for support would do to a file. it doesnt change the parameters of the file .nor does it invalidate the modders file input. however making a big brouhaha over nothing will invariably lead to others deciding they should be the ones to make the next version of cep and the result will be a disaster as its likely that someone elses version of cep will conflict with the version that has been proven to work. I think even end users of cep like myself realize what a conflicting version could do to our games. we live in a world where nearly everything ever written has a copywrite policy so why the shock over the fact that CEP has one? and inserting the words copywrite and credits to whomever in no way alters the program. anymore than the words trademark on a McDonalds hamburger wrapper alter the taste or quality of the hamburger. this is just my opinion and .02 cents. as for the survey at VS 80 percent of the questions were all about the VS site and its administrative staff very little of it had to do with the sims2
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