Crash on resized lots at 7PM -- any ideas?

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Doc Doofus:
No lighting patches here, I'm afraid.

I'm still curious if my lot (1x1-furnished see link above), which doesn't crash on my computer, crashes on other people's computer.  But Pbox's Backdoor 42 did crash.

Rascal:
I downloaded aelflaed's lot from MTS2 and tried it out.  Crashed at 7pm - so it's not just your lots pbox.

Maybe there is something to the ep thing?  I don't have BV either so of course this means I can't test Inge's lot (after saying I would - sorry  :-[).

Quote from: Doc Doofus on 2007 October 29, 02:27:32

What else happens at 7pm:  The lights turn on.

A couple of other ideas to test:

1. Does the newly installed and occupied lot crash if you go into build/buy mode and change the view to nighttime view?  I hadn't thought of trying that.  In many ways, that is similar to the 7pm changeover.

2. Turn on all lights before 7pm.  Or turn off all lights before 7pm.  That might make for an interesting experiment.  it would at least eliminate the possibility that it's something related to outdoor houselights turning on and off.

1. In a different neighbourhood with another brand new CAS sim I tried changing to night view in buildmode pretty much as soon as the lot loaded.  It crashed straight away.  For me at least this proves it has something to do with the change of lighting from day to night.

2. I've already tried turning on and off house lights and it doesn't appear to make any difference.

I also tried packaging and then installing my empty lot (previously I'd just moved it in and out of the lot bin).  Still no crashes.

  -- My son asked me what I was doing and I explained I was testing these lots in order to help some clever people work out why they were crashing.  His response?  Oh - so you're the crash test dummy!  ;D

ETA I don't have any lighting mods if that's any help.

pbox:
Rascal,

thank you. Not what anyone wanted to hear :P  (that aelflaed's lot is crashing too) but enlightening. I've updated post #24, rest will have to wait until tonight.

It would be very helpful if someone could go check which EPs those who used my (+other) lots *successfully* are running. I admit I haven't really paid attention to that.

I used Base+NL, no lighting mods. 

(quick check before I *really* have to run off: according to their mts2 profiles, Mutantbunny and Conceited911 do not have BV (both had *no* crashes) -- but who knows how accurate these profiles are. KariMinger = Zazazu does have BV, she had no crashes. )

DocDoofus says above that he has all EPs (or that his lot needs all EPs), and Backdoor Lane 42 does crash for him.

EPs can't play much of a role, I would say. If at all.

Rascal:
Quote from: pbox on 2007 October 29, 07:15:35

DocDoofus says above that he has all EPs (or that his lot needs all EPs), and Backdoor Lane 42 does crash for him.

EPs can't play much of a role, I would say. If at all.

What I wondered about, and what I think Simsample was getting at, was that the lots made in a game with BV (ie Inge, DocDofus) don't seem to crash, whereas lots made in a game without BV (yours and aelflaed's) do.

In other words the eps in the creator's game (rather than the end user's) may be important.

Perhaps the way the game handles the 7pm lighting change is different in BV?

Theo:
I have installed plasticbox's Row House 1, dropped it into Pleasantview, and moved in  a couple of sims (born in-game, not CAS). The lot didn't crash past 7pm.

I have all expansions except for BV, and no object packs installed. The Seasons executable is a no-cd version. I also have an AMD cpu with hardware DEP enabled.


If you think the crash has something to do with the lot's lighting, have you tried to install a different lighting configuration? Gunmod's lighting config (and derivates) changes the daylight transition timing, creating a dusk setting before nightime.

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