01[23:22] <Assmitten> What happened to that paper evaluation thing? Did that happen?
[23:22] <BastDawn> Shall I unsticky it and let it die?
[23:22] <LilBrudder> You're 18.
01[23:22] <Assmitten> Did I miss it?
[23:23] <Kazzandra> I think there were only two or three secret makers after batch one.
[23:23] <rohina> There have been secrets by a lot of different people.
[23:24] <BastDawn> I have secrets from 10 different people.
[23:24] <Kazzandra> Oh, I see. YOu mean rohina's evaluation of my paper. She didn't do a thing with it.
[23:24] <Kazzandra> TL;DR.
[23:24] <rohina> I probably have that many
[23:24] <rohina> I never got it.
01[23:24] <Assmitten> Hmm
06[23:24] * Kazzandra lulz
[23:24] <Kazzandra> I gave you a direct link to it.
[23:24] <rohina> Did you send it to me?
[23:24] <Kazzandra> Link. Here.
[23:24] <rohina> No you didn't
[23:24] <Kazzandra> I'm not pulling an Aggie. Go look in your logs.
[23:24] <rohina> Or if you did, it didn't look.
[23:25] <rohina> work
[23:25] <BastDawn> Anyone want to make up a new secret?
[23:25] <Kazzandra> You didn't mention it now working.
[23:25] <rohina> I will look in my logs only if you give me a time and dae.
[23:25] <Aggie> If they admit it, it's no longer a secret, is it?
[23:25] <Kazzandra> search is your friend.
[23:25] <Kazzandra> I'll look it up for you.
01[23:25] <Assmitten> No, too lazy. I want to just post in a thread at people. :D
[23:25] <rohina> I really don't care enough to bother.
[23:25] <BastDawn> True, Aggie.
[23:25] <Kazzandra> Bastdawn: Half of the secrets are mine.
[23:26] <Kazzandra> Why post another?
[23:26] <Annan> Alternatively, Kazzandra, you could stop behaving like Aggie and just give rohina the link again.
[23:26] <BastDawn> I'm unstickying the thread, then.
[23:26] <Kazzandra> Okay then.
[23:26] <Kazzandra> Let me fetch.
[23:26] <rohina> HALF?
[23:26] <LilBrudder> Oooh.
[23:26] <rohina> You posted like 3
[23:26] <LilBrudder> What Eurydice Orpheus' wife?
[23:26] <rohina> Unless you gave BastD all of hers.
[23:26] <rohina> Quitter, yes.
[23:26] <LilBrudder> Thanks.
[23:26] <Aggie> How many Eurydices do you know, lilB?
[23:26] <rohina> If you mean "Was she his wife"
[23:26] <LilBrudder> Yes.
[23:28] <Kazzandra> http://tinyurl.com/5cufrt
[23:28] <Kazzandra> There you go.
[23:28] <Kazzandra> I posted three more to Bastdawn, rohina.
[23:29] <BastDawn> Heh.  You gave me more than three.
[23:29] <rohina> That still isn't anything like "half"
[23:29] <Kazzandra> Ah-- okay.
[23:29] <LilBrudder> I always liked the story of Orpheus.
[23:29] <Kazzandra> From the original barrage, it is.
[23:29] <LilBrudder> Although, Echo's comes in at a close second.
06[23:29] * Kazzandra agrees.
[23:30] <rohina> Okay, reading the first few pages, I would do you for not sourcing.
[23:30] <BastDawn> The Meta Fight thread has too many posts that don't follow the proper format.  :P
[23:30] <rohina> Also, you are pretty close to our minimum standard of correctness, which allows 1 error per 100 words.
[23:30] <Kazzandra> You see those last pages, there?
[23:30] <Kazzandra> That's an entro.
[23:30] <Kazzandra> *inro
[23:31] <rohina> "entro"? What is that?
[23:31] <Kazzandra> Dammit.
[23:31] <Kazzandra> *intro
[23:31] <Kazzandra> :D
[23:31] <Kazzandra> The smilies! They do nothing!
[23:31] <Kazzandra> But yeah, again, feel free to feel I'm stupid.
[23:31] <rohina> I would also diagnose over use of the thesaurus. Some of those words you use, they do not mean what you think they mean.
01[23:32] <Assmitten> The Meta thread is sooo Tuesday.
[23:32] <Kazzandra> No, I don't really use a thesaurus. But thanks for playing.
[23:32] <SinfullyLiz> Is the second sentence badly constructed, or am I just failing to read it correctly?
[23:32] <rohina> I would totally do a student who said "mysogynic rampages" for being a wanker with the purple prose.
[23:32] <LilBrudder> Which?
[23:32] <Kazzandra> You can point and laugh all you wish.
[23:33] <rohina> Liz, there is a verb error at the very least
[23:33] <Kazzandra> This was a sophomore paper, unedited since turned in.
[23:33] <Annan> I did not know an introduction was the same as "don't give sources! plz!"
[23:33] <rohina> "converges" is incorrect.
[23:33] <SinfullyLiz> Okay. I thought so, but was unsure.
06[23:33] * Kazzandra leans back and watches the vultures descend.
[23:34] <rohina> I think your pyramid metaphor is really infelicitous.
[23:34] <rohina> I mean, you do know that pyramids are religious structures, right?
[23:34] <Kazzandra> I had a nice image.
[23:34] <Kazzandra> It was awesome.
[23:34] <rohina> But not Christian ones?
[23:34] <rohina> It's kind of like using bacon as a metaphor for Judaism.
01[23:35] <Assmitten> I wrote some wack ass art history wankfests back in the day, so I am sympathetic to this.
[23:35] <Annan> Hee!
[23:35] <rohina> Why is there no in-text citation?
01[23:35] <Assmitten> S'troo
[23:35] <Kazzandra> Pyramids are in everything, dude.
[23:35] <Kazzandra> Not so particularly religious anymore.
06[23:35] * Assmitten kills MLA style
[23:37] <rohina> Yes, dude, but when you are making a specifically religious argument, it seems kind of a strange move to rely on an image that originates in a different religious tradition.
01[23:38] <Assmitten> This paper is too godly for me and is burning my satanic eyes. :(
[23:38] <rohina> Oh, now this is a profound observation:
[23:38] <Kazzandra> Remember the image in Jacob's dream? It was a ziggurat.
[23:38] <rohina> Do you think that might be because he was, yanno, GREEK?
[23:38] <Kazzandra> WHUT? IN GENESIS?
[23:38] <Kazzandra> Greek?
[23:38] <rohina> THe ladder? I thought it was a ladder?
[23:39] <Kazzandra> No-- look again, there.
01[23:39] <Assmitten> It was sort of a yurt, really.
06[23:39] * Kazzandra pulls genesis.
01[23:39] <Assmitten> Jacob's Yurt: the Lost Chapter
[23:39] <rohina> Dude, Ovid was not in Genesis.
[23:40] <rohina> "Greek myths prepared the Christian world for the pedestal/footstool treatment of women, and kept many of the  traits that misogynist would attribute to women apparent in their minds.
[23:40] <rohina> "
[23:40] <rohina> WTF?
[23:41] <rohina> Apart from yet another subject/verb agreement error, where are your sources for this?
[23:41] <Kazzandra> As has often been observed, the references to both "its top reaching the heavens" and "the gate of heavens" uses phrases associated with the Mesopotamian ziggurat, and so the structure envisioned is probably a vast ramp with terraced landings.
[23:41] <Kazzandra> LAST PAGES.
[23:41] <Kazzandra> Sources.
[23:41] <Annan> Did you not have to have a proper structure for your essays, Kazzandra?
[23:41] <Nec> RL is funny. I should read it more
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[23:42] <Kazzandra> Yes, it's MLA. The intro has exceptions.
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[23:42] <Nec> I'd post there if they didn't count.
[23:42] <rohina> MLA requires in-text citation.
[23:42] <rohina> As well as a list of Works Cited.
01[23:42] <Assmitten> I wrote some papers in college that were all one lump like this. Not all profs wanted chapters or sections.
[23:43] <Kazzandra> Are you blind?
[23:43] <Annan> We were allowed to do this if the paper was less than 5 pages.
[23:43] <rohina> Are you saying that the INTRO is more than 1/3 or the length of the paper?
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[23:43] <rohina> Because that sentence comes from about 1/3 of the way in.
[23:43] <LilBrudder> I did that, once.
[23:43] <Kyna> We weren't allowed to do this, even if it was a short 1000 word paper.
[23:43] <Kazzandra> 27 works cited.
[23:44] <LilBrudder> I described what classic fiction was when I was supposed to be describing what Pip represented.
[23:44] <LilBrudder> I didn't fail, though!
01[23:44] <Assmitten> Chicago style FTW
[23:44] <SinfullyLiz> At my school, proper sentence construction ensures a passing grade.
[23:44] <Kazzandra> Page, that is. I do not know how you are viewing this. I am astutely aware of having given you my name. And now I commence to panic.
[23:45] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra: I already have a group of kidnapping ninjas on the way, no need to panic.
[23:45] <Kazzandra> No seriously. That-- that's too much.
[23:46] <rohina> I would be close to giving you a D+ on the verb errors alone.
[23:46] <Kazzandra> Oh good for you.
01[23:47] <Assmitten> That's a lot of sources.
[23:47] <rohina> Kazzandra, you told me this was a great essay, and that it would pwn my skills as a marker.
[23:48] <rohina> So why, if you didn't want to know, did you post it and then dare me to read it?
[23:48] <Kazzandra> No, I told you it was on philosophy.
[23:48] <rohina> Why did you want me to read it, then?
[23:48] <rohina> I thought it was to show your brillaince.
[23:48] <Kazzandra> Shit. Fuck. Damn. When you're done, promptly deleting. Have fun giggling and spreading my name around the Internet.
[23:48] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, fear not.  Your name on the internet is nothing to be afraid of.
[23:48] <rohina> Was there some other reason?
[23:49] <Kazzandra> rohina, I am well aware that there are people older and wiser than me. And I admit I carry a chip on my shoulder from being economically underprivledged, so I am so done having to defend my intelligence.
06[23:49] * Kazzandra = stupid
[23:49] <rohina> SO, what was it you wanted?
[23:49] <Kazzandra> Obviously, or I would have edited out my headers and footers.
[23:49] <Nec> O.o
[23:50] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, seriously.
[23:50] <LilBrudder> Chill about your name.
[23:50] <Nec> You are reminding me of Celestard right now.
[23:50] <Kazzandra> To show you I had a background in philosophy.
[23:50] <rohina> I mean, you made a huge deal about me reading this essay, and now, you are mad that I read it?
[23:50] <Nec> Perhaps it is because I am reading the tard thread.
[23:50] <rohina> This is a religion essay, not a philosophy essay.
[23:50] <Kazzandra> 'Huge deal?' Assmitten mentioned it in passing.
[23:50] <Kazzandra> Any fighting with rohina is futile, and thus tard, kamikaze style.
[23:51] <Kazzandra> She is smug, arrogant, and self-assured.
01[23:51] <Assmitten> This was kind of a big deal a few weeks ago....
[23:51] <Kazzandra> She might have every right to be so, but it makes her no less of a wanker.
[23:51] <rohina> Kazzandra, you challenged me in my area of professional expertise.
[23:51] <rohina> Do you understand how insulting it is that you assume I am incompetent?
[23:51] <Kyna> And you are not "smug and arrogant" (I'm leaving out the self-assured)?
[23:51] <Kazzandra> I never said you were incompetant?
[23:52] <rohina> Yes, you kind of did.
[23:52] <Kazzandra> Yes, Kyna, I know that you think that.
[23:52] <Kazzandra> Oh, why was I asking for your advice earlier?
[23:52] <rohina> I mean, you assumed I would not be able to comment on your essay.
[23:52] <rohina> Or something.
[23:52] <Kazzandra> Or something is correct.
[23:52] <rohina> And now you are saying I am smug and arrogant for giving you my comments.
[23:52] <Kazzandra> I'd pull that log if I cared a rat's ass.
[23:52] <rohina> Dude, this is what I do
[23:52] <rohina> I read essays and then I pull them to shreds.
[23:53] <rohina> For my students, I do this to help them improve.
[23:53] <rohina> If you gave me that as a draft, I would have given you a series of suggestions.
[23:53] <Kazzandra> Yep. Well, it is obvious I PHAIL anyway, or I would not be freelancing.
[23:53] <Kazzandra> So it does not matter.
[23:53] <rohina> If you gave it to me as a finished product, I would eviscerate you.
[23:53] <Nec> ;)
[23:54] <Kazzandra> I don't know-- this version could be a draft. Doesn't produce an excuse, anyway.
[23:54] <Nec> Okay, you are really being stupid
[23:54] <Nec> I don't often agree with Rohina, but I do here
[23:54] <Kazzandra> How so?
[23:55] <Nec> We don't often agree with each other, rather.
[23:55] <Nec> Obviously I am agreeing with what she said?
[23:55] <Nec> Would I be agreeing with something she didn't say?
[23:55] <Kazzandra> Oh, yes. The finished product part.
[23:55] <Nec> Now it "could be a draft."
[23:55] <Kazzandra> Fine, D+ for Kazzandra.
[23:56] <Nec> Good girl.
[23:56] <rohina> Why are you getting huffy?
[23:56] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, seriously, don't let it get you down.
[23:57] <Nec> Well, she shouldn't have asked knowing the potential outcome
[23:57] <Kazzandra> Because I grew up having to prove to everyone I wasn't just a poor dumb girl. I take it more personally and get butthurt. And oh, my name was on the paper.
[23:57] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, forget the name thing.
[23:57] <rohina> I don't care if you are poor
[23:57] <LilBrudder> That doesn't matter.
[23:57] <rohina> Quitter knows whereof he speaks.
[23:57] <Kazzandra> Oh really? How many people with that name do you know?
[23:57] <Nec> Look, if you want to do better, then show it and ask how it could be better. Don't say it is great or something then back down on that
[23:57] <rohina> His name is Walrusfucker.
[23:57] <rohina> You can't whine about having a worse name than him.
[23:58] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, google says 140,000.
[23:58] <Nec> Kazzandra, I am poor as fuck, that doesn't make me less educated
[23:58] <LilBrudder> Seriously.
[23:58] <Fairlight> What name pissed off Kazzandra?
[23:58] <LilBrudder> Your name isn't out there.
[23:58] <LilBrudder> It's not a big deal.
[23:58] <rohina> Nec takes her edumacation seriously. I respect that.
[23:58] <Nec> You are as educated as you want to be. In order to learn, you have to ask questions
[23:58] <Kazzandra> Whut? my name wasn't on there, then? I get 1600 without quotes.
[23:58] <Nec> Thank you, Rohina.
[23:58] <LilBrudder> You seem to be good at hiding your tracks.  You don't have to worry about your name, Kazzandra.
[23:59] <Fairlight> Did Kazzandra's Power Word:  IRL Name come up?
[23:59] <Nec> And you also have to accept that you aren't going to know things that you feel like yu should know
[23:59] <rohina> Fairlight, yes.
[23:59] <Fairlight> WHAT HAPPEN!
[23:59] <rohina> But she is sadder about her subject verb agreements, as she should be.
[23:59] <Nec> The thing is, you only have to ask once
[23:59] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, you are less on there than I am.  I'm a 12.
[23:59] <LilBrudder> My name's on my school's website.
[23:59] <LilBrudder> How's that for irony?
[23:59] <LilBrudder> Seriously, your name doesn't matter.
[23:59] <Nec> So if you find it humiliating, you only have to be humiliated once about it. Then you know it.
Session Time: Fri Aug 22 00:00:00 2008
[00:00] <LilBrudder> Now, had you been documented doing something hilarious, we would have found it by now.
[00:00] <LilBrudder> The fact is that nobody cares.
[00:00] <Kazzandra> No, I know this paper isn't my best. I never said it was. I said it proved that I knew something of what I was speaking.
[00:00] <Nec> Don't bother trying to prove what you know.
[00:00] <LilBrudder> You're not in a place where we'd steal your name and slander it for fun.
[00:00] <Kazzandra> Also, sophomore paper. I've done much better.
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[00:00] <rohina> Well, no, it doesn't prove that.
[00:00] <Nec> Spend more time finding out what you don't know
[00:00] <rohina> But thanks for playing.
[00:00] <LilBrudder> You are hurt with the fuel you give us.
[00:00] <Kazzandra> I'm not so sure, LilBrudder.
[00:00] <Annan> Why did you choose to show us this one, then?
[00:01] <LilBrudder> So don't give fuel, don't get burned.
[00:01] <Kazzandra> Original conversation was about subject matter.
[00:01] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, I implore you to see more logic than Kewian.
01[00:01] <Assmitten> Also, do you or did you believe the last sentence? I am curious.
[00:01] <rohina> Yo, Liz!
[00:01] <Nec> Proving you know stuff really doesn't command respect at all
[00:01] <SinfullyLiz> Yes?
[00:01] <Kazzandra> Admittedly, theology and philosphy are different subjects.
[00:01] <rohina> Do you have any idea what veilchen's response to you means?
[00:01] <LilBrudder> YOU know that if you stop giving us fuel, we'll not have anything to attack you with, right?
[00:02] <rohina> Because I read it twice, and I don't get it.
[00:02] <Nec> Showing a willingness to learn and understand is what gains respect. It is also how you happen to learn more :p
[00:02] <SinfullyLiz> Apparently I am profoundly emotionally troubled because I cannot understand her.
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01[00:02] <Assmitten> Ooh, is she still posting??
[00:02] <Kazzandra> Oh, heh. No wai, Assmitten.
[00:02] <rohina> Oh, okay.
[00:02] <rohina> me too, then.
01[00:02] <Assmitten> Okay, K, I was wondering.
[00:02] <LilBrudder> SinfullyLiz: Oh YEAH?  I find that offensive, so I need to take defensive action, like telling you a book's purpose!
01[00:02] <Assmitten> Doesn't sound like you, really.
[00:03] <Surelyfunke> SinfullyLiz, veilchen is right, you know. She can fucking do whatever the fucking fuck she fucking wants.
[00:03] <Surelyfunke> And if you don't fucking get it, then you can fucking fuck.
[00:03] <Nec> Fuck you, you fucking fuck.
[00:03] <Nec> That is a favorite
[00:03] <Nec> Old, but good
[00:03] <rohina> Twatweasel.
01[00:03] <Assmitten> I dew what I want and I squeeze the stuffing out of you
[00:04] <Nec> lol
[00:04] <LilBrudder> They sold shirts like that in Chinatown, NYC.
[00:04] <Kazzandra> I am clearly not awesome enough for MATY. I have dug a shallow grave; I will now lie in it.
[00:04] <Surelyfunke> also, SAPPHIRE FOR MEH DARLINKS
01[00:04] <Assmitten> lol
[00:04] <LilBrudder> "Fuck you for fucking fucking fuck, fucker!"
01[00:04] <Assmitten> That's their new ad campaign.
[00:04] <LilBrudder> Night, Kazzandra.
01[00:04] <Assmitten> Are you shooing her?
01[00:04] <Assmitten> You can't do that.
[00:04] <LilBrudder> No.
[00:04] <LilBrudder> She said she's lying down.
[00:04] <LilBrudder> I assumed she meant bed.
01[00:05] <Assmitten> Because she does what she wants.
[00:05] <Kazzandra> I'm not leaving. I need more pwnage.
[00:05] <SinfullyLiz> She is not a fucking sheep.
[00:05] <LilBrudder> Oh.
[00:05] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra, what's that on your shirt?
01[00:05] <Assmitten> She's in or out of the regime, it's cool
06[00:05] * LilBrudder flicks Kazzandra's nose as she looks down.
01[00:05] <Assmitten> lol, Failchan
[00:05] <Kazzandra> Dragons, as always. Dorky dragons. Or snakes. Or gnomes or something.
01[00:07] <Assmitten> Madonna's arms are upsetting me.
01[00:07] <Assmitten> I think they could be improved with a Popeye tattoo.
[00:07] <LilBrudder> Madonna needs to pull a Britney Spears, or die, or something.
[00:08] <LilBrudder> Jus t GO AWAY, WOMAN!
01[00:08] <Assmitten> She won't, though. She is an icon.
[00:08] <LilBrudder> Well, maybe she'll be more of an icon if we have the media kidnap her.
[00:08] <LilBrudder> They can't report on it, then.
[00:08] <LilBrudder> We should have left her in Britain.
01[00:08] <Assmitten> You can't displace her, or put her in a box. She is like Veilchen in that regard.
01[00:09] <Assmitten> Being on MATY in 05 is the same as having a 20-year music career.
[00:09] <LilBrudder> Aw.
[00:09] <LilBrudder> I think I joined up in 06.
[00:09] <LilBrudder> Now I have to check.
[00:10] <Kyna> Oooh, I have a 20 year music career, and nobody told me?
[00:10] <LilBrudder> Hey, 05!
01[00:10] <Assmitten> I thought you were old skool and joined when you were in short pants.
[00:10] <LilBrudder> I snuck in in the last few days!
[00:10] <LilBrudder> December 27.
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[00:10] <Kazzandra> Got Sims for Christmas?
[00:10] <LilBrudder> It's a wiccan!  How offensive!
[00:10] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra: no.
[00:10] <LilBrudder> I'd had sims since it first came out.
[00:10] <LilBrudder> I just joined Pescado then.
[00:10] <Kazzandra> It was as good correlation as any.
[00:11] <LilBrudder> I'd been a groupie since the MTS2 days.
[00:11] <LilBrudder> It was.
[00:14] <Nec> Are you stalking me on MATY O.o
[00:14] <Nec> I am reading that Wiccan thread
[00:14] <Amber> Night all.
[00:14] <Nec> Night Amber
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[00:15] <LilBrudder> Nec, "Offensive" and "Wiccan" are now MATYmemes.
[00:15] <Nec> I don't see why everyone got so pissed off about the rape hack. Everyone wants murder hacks, but ZOMG not rape.
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[00:15] <Nec> Fucking hypocrites
01[00:16] <Assmitten> I don't want a murder hack.
[00:16] <Nec> How many people kill their sims?
[00:16] <Nec> Is that not murder?
[00:16] <Solowren> Divine intervention, more likely. :D
[00:16] <Kazzandra> Morality is all about personal squickiness. There's my philsophy. It's sooo deep.
[00:16] <Nec> Removing a pool ladder or making them take the cake is no less heinous than shooting them with a gun
[00:17] <Nec> Or using Paladin's throwing axes
[00:17] <Solowren> It is, because that stuff doesn't happen in real life.
[00:17] <Solowren> No one gets eaten by a cowplant.
[00:17] <Nec> People getting all shitty about Carrigon's rape hack is simply fucking stupid
[00:17] <Solowren> ....I think.
[00:17] <Nec> Yes, and no one drowns in pools, either?
[00:17] <Kazzandra> lol, Solowren.
[00:17] <Nec> And no one dies by fire?
[00:17] <Solowren> Not from the ladder magically disappearing, no.
[00:18] <Kazzandra> I agree. I thought that was shit.
[00:18] <Kazzandra> Seriously.
[00:18] <Nec> No one dies being struck by lightning?
[00:18] <Kazzandra> Notice my lack of moral outrage in that thread. Apparently rare.
[00:18] <Solowren> No one ever dies! Okay, I concede. xD
[00:18] <Nec> I'd post, but unless Pescado makes my post count stick, I am ranting here :)
[00:18] <Nec> lol
[00:19] <LilBrudder> I wish you'd post and kill another innocent universe.  :P
[00:19] <Nec> I'd actually like the rape hack. For story purposes.
[00:19] <Kazzandra> But MATY is a conglomerate of people, so you know, community stuff.
[00:19] <Nec> Never, LB!
[00:19] <Nec> Although, I imagine it is nowhere to be found.
[00:19] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra: commie.
[00:19] <Kyna> Nec, the isue wasn't whether one should find the rape hack offensive or not.  It was that someone who created a hack that some people find offensive is treading on thin ice when they turn around and complain about offensive content.
[00:20] <Aggie> Exactly.
[00:20] <LilBrudder> Kyna: exactly.
[00:20] <LilBrudder> And that makes it memelulz.
[00:20] <Kyna> issue*
[00:20] <Kazzandra> Yes, but there was quite a bit of ZOMG rape hack there.
[00:20] <Nec> My point is that Carrigon had an opinion, stated it, and then was attacked on something else
[00:20] <LilBrudder> Kazzandra: I get the feeling it was only to illustrate the point.
[00:20] <Aggie> Didn't she also say something like 'MY hack was only made for a select few whereas this is being forced on MORE.?
[00:20] <Kazzandra> But the principal of the matter was not missed by all.
[00:21] <Kazzandra> Yes.
[00:21] <Nec> Well, she does have a point in a way. Like you have to look at the holiday packs.
[00:21] <Kyna> that doesn't hold water Aggie, as the supernatural content has always been avoidable with the right hacks.
[00:21] <Aggie> Nec, I agree with Inge that the rape hack is NOT something to be in arms about. But to ignore people's complaints about offensive material just to do the exact same thing is hypocritical.
[00:21] <Nec> They have Santa, Kwnazaa, and Hannukah, but no Christian x-mas stuff
[00:21] <Aggie> I didn't say I agreed, kyna.
[00:22] <Nec> See what I mean?
[00:22] <Aggie> Don;'t they have the Xmas tree?
[00:22] <Aggie> And Santa?
[00:22] <Aggie> And the reindeer?
[00:22] <Kazzandra> Peeing santa. Lulx.
[00:22] <Nec> So EA was clearly not thinking when they added African and Jewish religious stuff, but did not add Christian stuff
[00:22] <Aggie> Define Christian.
[00:22] <Nec> X-mas tree is not Christian
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[00:23] <Nec> Not really. I mean, they would have crosses and stuff
[00:23] <Aggie> They couldn't add a cross because that would be TOO religious-like.
[00:23] <Aggie> Then they'd have to add ALL religious symbols.
[00:23] <Kazzandra> If they'd been decent, they'd provided hoilday stuff for holidays around the world.
[00:23] <LilBrudder> Aggie, that'd be like being a modern-day Noah.
[00:23] <Nec> And Minorahs aren't?
[00:23] <Aggie> Yes, but they are lazy.
[00:23] <Kazzandra> How about the festival of lights?
[00:23] <LilBrudder> Two of every animal, bacteria, virus, plant, and archaea.
[00:23] <Kazzandra> I love that festival.
[00:24] <Nec> See, they should have made a Noah's Ark SP
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