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How do people have sims die of disease?
« on: 2005 September 30, 19:41:26 »
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Seriously, other than random bugs how the hell are people that bad at the game anyone ever dies from food poisoning or illness?

I have tried several times to just allow someone to die off and they always get better.

Last night I was playing a fairly new family and was busy being pissed off about the 2 sets of twins in a row (teach me to pretend my sims are rats and knock them up right after labor). This retarded kid goes and eats rotten food and gets food poisoning. Now I never liked him anyway, he was a pleasure sim with a 1 in active/lazy and max in playful.

Being pissed off I decided he would become a teen tragedy and sadly pass away. I allowed him NO comfort for 12 days ,he only passed out on the lawn, he crapped his pants numerous times, no one would play with him, nope no death. He was getting ready to transition to YA/A and still just fine, low aspiration but completely safe, plus he wasn'tvomiting anymore.

How the hell do people complain about something that I can't even get to happen when I want it to?


In the end I did this:

To kill him I had to decide he was a different type of teen tragedy and would OD. So I made him play with the noodle soother (ex)  and crystal meth...er the energizer and let him die on the lawn. Then because I still hated him, brought him back as a 1k zombie,  sent him to college and failed him out, then made him have a homosexual experiance with a vampire, who bit him, then invted him over to watch him woo hoo with a woman, breaking his zombie/vampire heart. On the plus side he did fall in love in college, first with a prostitute (who was the woman the vampire had over) but then found out he was a filthy furry and married the evil mascot. Their home life was going well, but then he was probed and just popped out an alien butt baby.
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Re: How do people have sims die of disease?
« Reply #1 on: 2005 September 30, 20:08:57 »
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An alien butt baby?  lol  That phrase is priceless.  Thanks for the giggle!   Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: 2005 September 30, 20:18:30 »
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Pre-University, I got sick of some of the ugly townies, so I created "The Cemetary" inhabited by Chris Caretaker and Beatrice Caretaker.  This lot was a fenced in cemetary with a tiny one-room plus bathroom house in the corner for the Caretakers.  The elder married couple were nasty as they could get (0 Niceness) and would invite any ugly townie who wandered on to the lot in, and then fence them off.  Chris would paint souvenir portraits of each townie they starved to death.

For variety, a couple of times the Caretakers would become good friends with a potential victim and Propose they Move In.  I tried alternate deaths with the controllable townies, such as food poisoning, the flu, and cloud viewing death-by-satellite.  Nothing worked except good old fashioned starvation.

Premature death is very, very difficult in The Sims 2.  I was truly astonished at how long starvation takes.  When the bar is almost entirely red and looks life threatening, you've got at least another 6-8 hours.  The only real unexpected deaths I've seen were a Sim dying from trying to repair a garbage compactor, and a Sim dying from being scared to death.  Both I believe are from the 3-needs rule, where the shock zeroed 3 needs which were low before the critical event.

The Cow Plant clearly is in the game because Maxis realized how difficult and slow it was to deliberately inflict death.

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Re: How do people have sims die of disease?
« Reply #3 on: 2005 September 30, 20:57:24 »
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LOLOL......thanks for the laughs.

I dion't think the writers of Days of our Lives could have come uo with a better storyline  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: 2005 September 30, 21:06:35 »
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How the hell do people complain about something that I can't even get to happen when I want it to?
People complain about this? Really? They must suck pretty hard.

I had to make more of an effort to be negligent enough to get a sim to die of disease than I normally have to make to keep sims alive. Probably would have been easier had I turned off free will though.

I was lucky enough to get a sim to die after about 4 days of no comfort rather than the supposed "about 10" you always hear about.
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« Reply #5 on: 2005 September 30, 21:07:23 »
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Have you tried leaving a vampire out in direct sunlight yet?  They stick around much longer than I would've though they would.
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« Reply #6 on: 2005 September 30, 21:21:21 »
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I also tried the death by desease thing, when I was creating a "Haunted house" Roll Eyes My gosh, that thing was so hard to do! Roll Eyes I had the place filled with roaches, I didn"t even put beds on the lot! Still they managed to get better! Angry they would keep passing out.. argh! Angry Sims should die easier if ever getting sick. The first sim I got sick was when I first had the game. She got a virus I think from the careerreward she was using, either ways, she was not only sick, but also pregnant. still it was no challange for me to have her always in green... Roll Eyes

Sheesh! For the next EP they should include a NEW feature int he game! "Challange"! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: 2005 September 30, 23:45:39 »
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O same, same, same. I have just put Inge's no disease hack in, my n'hood keeps getting riddled with flu, I have to go to each lot and get them better. They NEVER EVER die, they just lose queued actions and hack away, taking up hours of sim time.  I would like to play the game for illness realism, but this is just a pain.

Sickness is just a pain if they never die from it. Has anyone even seen pneumonia?
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« Reply #8 on: 2005 October 01, 03:17:15 »
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I had a sim die of the flu once. I don't even think he was sick for more then 4 or so days, so much for the prima guide's "10 days", lol. I immediately got his adult daughter to bring him back with the ressurect-o-nomitron because I was going for the "have 10 kids" want with that couple and they'd only had 8.

My favourite method for killing sims is the "Runs with scissors" playset, I've used if to get a sim's "be saved from death" want.
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« Reply #9 on: 2005 October 01, 03:26:15 »
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I had a pregnant sim with the flu die on me immediately after giving birth - sad thing it was.
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« Reply #10 on: 2005 October 01, 03:26:29 »
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I had the place filled with roaches, I didn"t even put beds on the lot! Still they managed to get better! Angry they would keep passing out.. argh! Angry

To fix this, buy a radio, turn it on, then fence it off so the sims can't get to it. Voila. No more sleeping for you!
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Re: How do people have sims die of disease?
« Reply #11 on: 2005 October 01, 04:37:14 »
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If you have a burning desire to kill a sim off quickly, you could always just Spawn Rodney's Death Creator. That lets you test out all the types of death on your sim.
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« Reply #12 on: 2005 October 01, 06:07:40 »
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See this page for details on the different deaths.
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« Reply #13 on: 2005 October 01, 06:11:48 »
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If you have a burning desire to kill a sim off quickly, you could always just Spawn Rodney's Death Creator.
The only true way to satisfy a BURNING DESIRE to kill off a sim quickly is BUYABLE FIRE.
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« Reply #14 on: 2005 October 01, 09:58:11 »
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I usually just get them to go swimming, then once they're in the pool I take away the steps so they can't get out. It takes a while, but you just 'set 'em and forget 'em'  Smiley
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Re: How do people have sims die of disease?
« Reply #15 on: 2005 October 01, 12:08:48 »
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you guys are killing me, ROFL!!
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Re: How do people have sims die of disease?
« Reply #16 on: 2005 October 01, 13:06:41 »
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See this page for details on the different deaths.

Interesting list.  I do have a little trouble believing in the "flies" death.  It sounds like an urban legend.

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« Reply #17 on: 2005 October 01, 13:56:35 »
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The flies death is for real. You see the flies get very fat, loud and buzzy. A swarm in fact. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: 2005 October 01, 14:03:42 »
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I had a couple of houses I set up specifically to get death by flies.  The links to the posts are here:

http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?&openItemID=&threadID=45beddc6d0800a82afd178b7ff2b6901&directoryID=25&startRow=1#8e10b032ab8a335de4f8193e9e795fd3

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Some of the more interesting things I've heard happen is that once the social worker came to take a child and got devoured by flies instead.  My maid came to clean up once and had to step over trash piles, which could have gotten her eaten.  And I saw the Grim Reaper step over a couple of trash piles.  It would have been funny as anything to have him devoured by flies as well, but Pescado says it will crash the game:  there's no one to reap the Reaper.

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« Reply #19 on: 2005 October 01, 16:20:12 »
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I have had 3-4 sims die of disease, or rather the mysterious choking death. The way it seems to happen is if you have the sims visit someone else while he/she is sick. Then if you exit the house, leaving the sim in 2 places, in an existential way, there will be all sorts of problems with the recovery. You can get the sim well at home, but he/she is still in some way sick, and may die at the visiting house if enough sim days have passed in play somewhere, or you may get a he/she is better message at the visiting house, but then when you go home and the sim dies. If you don't play lots of families at once, it's probably not something you would see.
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« Reply #20 on: 2005 October 01, 16:26:15 »
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To kill a sim with disease, send them to work sick with their needs kinda red. That kills mine in a hurry.  Wink
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« Reply #21 on: 2005 October 01, 16:36:16 »
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I've never had it happen when I wanted it to, however, I have had it happen quite unintended on my part by the mysterious choking death bug Rohina mentioned above that relates to disease (including pregnancy) and loading other lots then returning to that sim's home lot.
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« Reply #22 on: 2005 October 01, 16:37:16 »
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I had one of my sims die three times at uni (reloaded after each time) when she was sick. I had her doing her term paper and assignments and she just up and died. I even kept her Needs high, let her sleep and so on. Only way I got her to survive was by having her do no work at all, and just sleep and lounge around until she was better.
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« Reply #23 on: 2005 October 01, 16:42:26 »
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I've noticed that too, once a sim is predetermined to die like that, reloading does not seem to help so it seems they are somehow marked for death before the lot even gets loaded.
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« Reply #24 on: 2005 October 01, 17:00:05 »
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Some of the more interesting things I've heard happen is that once the social worker came to take a child and got devoured by flies instead.  My maid came to clean up once and had to step over trash piles, which could have gotten her eaten.  And I saw the Grim Reaper step over a couple of trash piles.  It would have been funny as anything to have him devoured by flies as well, but Pescado says it will crash the game:  there's no one to reap the Reaper.

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I really enjoy the Discworld Series by Terry Pratchet where Death has his own personna... and a horse named Binky. It makes me  wish that Maxis had given us a bit more room to create with Death, give him a "Home to come home to.. " so to speak, when he isn't working. Or when he is taking a break or on a vacation... (its a temperal thing).

As for Death by Fles, it is to fast. When I am really pixxed at a Sim, I want fun that keeps on giving for a while. Then I like the satalite dropping on their bodies .However; do they have to lie down for that?

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