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« Reply #50 on: 2007 May 07, 10:38:28 »
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The hair dryer is stored right next to their leaf rake and fishing pole, along with a lot of other stuff best not mentioned. Smiley

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« Reply #51 on: 2007 May 07, 11:00:09 »
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Hammerspace.

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« Reply #52 on: 2007 May 07, 11:14:10 »
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LOL!  Thanks for the explanation  Smiley
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« Reply #53 on: 2007 May 07, 15:28:13 »
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To test this...  I forced a Sim to stay outside so she'd freeze. It took awhile, but then she did take a big hit on motives when she first froze. Afterward her motives continued to decrease slowly. Her roommate warmed her up using a hair dryer so I did it again and when her motives were low enough she got up then died from hunger.

So in my experience frozen sims will eventually die - from hunger - if left to do so, but it'll take awhile and it is possible to direct another sim to warm them up.

I have only seen the "warm up" option once, and I can't figure out under what conditions it is available.  I certainly would have used it on my Uni Sim before he froze to death, but clicking on the frozen Sim had no effect at all.  Also - what hair dryer??  Where is it exactly?
They pull it out of their nether regions, like the fishing pole. Scary.

Never had the "warm up" option come up, and I've had spouses and children that I've had click on them (both freezings were with the dad of the house, one intentional, and one because the stupid sim decided to take a dip and then build a snowman in his swimtrunks). One child autonomously did it, though.
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« Reply #54 on: 2007 May 07, 22:13:25 »
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I'm not sure what makes the warm up option show up. The first time the roommate sim just did it on his own. I didn't even know to look for this option so I was really surprised to see him pull the hair dryer out (of his back pocket haha). So the 2nd time she froze -once the roommate got home from work I checked and it was there. These two are only roommates - just friends -no romance or anything. They do not have a lot of history together either. So I would think that family should have it, but I have not checked that.
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« Reply #55 on: 2007 May 08, 00:27:38 »
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It shows up anytime another sim is frozen. And they'll even do it automatically, for random people they don't know. One of them WRECKED MY BRYNNE STATUE!
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« Reply #56 on: 2007 May 08, 08:43:41 »
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I finally managed to get another example of needs dropping during a freeze:

The first screenshot shows her in the moment right after she froze.  Note that her needs are low but not life-threatening.



The second screenshot was taken just after I (finally) saw the warmup option appear.  Her father has come out to try to warm her up, but at this point she is still frozen and he hasn't done anything to her yet.  Note that her needs are definitely lower than before.



So it's not true that their needs remain static while frozen.  You can see that this could potentially develop into a life-threatening situation, if you can't get someone to warm them up in time.

I did eventually see the hair dryer, by the way  Smiley
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« Reply #57 on: 2007 May 08, 09:44:10 »
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If you leave a frozen Sim alone a long time, eventually they can thaw by themselves. By that time their needs will be so low they usually die, though. Often I only notice a Sim has frozen because I hear the "ho hum" of Grimmy.
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« Reply #58 on: 2007 May 08, 22:15:59 »
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As this illustration also shows, outerwear is nearly completely ineffective, and whether or not your swim makes snowmen in his swimwear or not makes no difference at all.
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« Reply #59 on: 2007 May 09, 04:53:00 »
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So it's not true that their needs remain static while frozen.  You can see that this could potentially develop into a life-threatening situation, if you can't get someone to warm them up in time.

I did eventually see the hair dryer, by the way  Smiley
No, definitely not. My first simsicle didn't decrease terribly quickly. The second was extremely quick. I actually had to intervene and move him into the livingroom so he didn't croak. Perhaps the outside temp was lower the second time; I didn't have the lot debugger back then. As for the hairdryer...maybe I didn't wait long enough. I'll test it again sometime soonish, but for now my sims have been pretty good and no one is marked for death by the Oversoul. My current procreator can't break the kid number rule as he's a guy and his mate has recently undergone grilled cheese zombification.
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« Reply #60 on: 2007 May 09, 06:26:40 »
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Grilled Cheese Sims love kids... more people to serve grilled cheese sandwiches to!

Chester Cheez really didn't care that half his wife's kids weren't his... he just feed them all grilled cheese and was generally a better parent to them than she was!
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« Reply #61 on: 2007 May 09, 14:02:05 »
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Em, this keeps bugging me. Overall, this hack is working as advertised, etc. However, it would be lovely if something was added to severely reduce or eliminate the internal heat caused by jumping on the bed. I find it ridiculous that a kid can still be taken from home by the social worker just because they were hopping around a bit.

I know Pes doesn't much care for the offspring, so it may just be a pipe dream.
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« Reply #62 on: 2007 May 09, 14:31:37 »
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I don't have that particular problem. I have the SSHack installed. But, I can usually I can catch the little buggers before they top out.
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« Reply #63 on: 2007 May 09, 18:00:50 »
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I don't have that particular problem. I have the SSHack installed. But, I can usually I can catch the little buggers before they top out.
I haven't had one taken...haven't had a social worker take a kid for a good long time, and that was because of a nanny not showing. The warning is just annoying, and pisses me off. I'm not neglecting the kid, it's just a brat.
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« Reply #64 on: 2007 May 09, 23:25:47 »
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The warning without SShack is basically just useless spam, because it doesn't warn you of anything at all. The actual trigger for default SS visits from temperature are nearly always sudden-death, and the warning is basically totally unrelated.
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« Reply #65 on: 2007 June 11, 19:09:53 »
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Will pass on this one.  I am far too desperate for more random death in my game to want to stop it!  I just love the hot-tub combiustions.  Had a boring oldie die from overheating last time I played.  The position of the hot-tub was such that nobody could get to him (well they could if I tp'd them there, but they just jumped back and whinged about something non-existent being in the way).  Pity he was perma-plat, but when you gotta go, you gotta go ...   Had several die this way now, but the others I brought back as they were all YA's, including my self-Sim's fella.

Pity the freezing doesn't do anything more lasting.  You'd think at the very least a toe would drop off, or something.
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« Reply #66 on: 2007 June 11, 22:48:44 »
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I don't understand the point of posting in a thread just to say you don't want the hack it's discussing....

then again, I'm also guilty of posting in a thread about a hack to say that I don't understand another post...
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« Reply #67 on: 2007 June 11, 23:55:12 »
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« Reply #68 on: 2007 June 12, 01:20:44 »
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Ancient Sim just likes to moan.  She also likes to drop strong hints about RANDOM DEATH MODS.
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« Reply #69 on: 2007 June 12, 01:30:58 »
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Ancient Sim just likes to moan.  She also likes to drop strong hints about RANDOM DEATH MODS.
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« Reply #70 on: 2007 June 19, 06:46:41 »
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Nope, it wasn't.
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« Reply #71 on: 2007 July 03, 14:17:01 »
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I don't know if I should install this or not, since the new seasons patch. Although, maybe it's a good idea for my undead sims? Can someone please enlighten me about the differnce between this fix and the newest patch? Thanks.
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« Reply #72 on: 2007 July 03, 21:20:41 »
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Still fixes a few things Maxis did funny, like hot tub overheatings indoors.
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« Reply #73 on: 2007 July 06, 17:13:38 »
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Gee, I put all my tubs inside now I will need to take them outside again.  No way, I guess I will get the fix.

Ok, am I the only one that notice you can cool down sims that are orver heating with a glass of water.  Looks like Maxis finally found a use for that one.
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« Reply #74 on: 2007 July 06, 17:34:08 »
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Ok, am I the only one that notice you can cool down sims that are orver heating with a glass of water.  Looks like Maxis finally found a use for that one.

Nope, I noticed that too.  A glass of water is also good for a plant sim to get a quick hydration when no pool or rainstorm is handy. Smiley
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