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Pet genetics screwed up?
« on: 2006 October 27, 19:15:01 »
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So far, I've just been doing a lot of testing and messing around, but it seems that pet genetics are buggered (gee, imagine that!). Every time Sarah Crittur has puppies, they have floppy ears (as adults) rather than upright ones like Sarah and Danny. I've heard on other boards that the same thing is happening to CAP-created pets (someone bred 2 Akitas and got floppy eared dogs) though I haven't check that myself. Any thoughts from those more awesome?
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Re: Pet genetics screwed up?
« Reply #1 on: 2006 October 27, 19:31:14 »
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I bred an Eskie and a Husky (both upright ears) and got floppy earred offspring.
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Re: Pet genetics screwed up?
« Reply #2 on: 2006 October 28, 05:13:34 »
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Have you waited to see what happens when they grow up?  I seem to recall all dogs are born with floppy ears and the ones that have pointy ears are actually clipped?
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« Reply #3 on: 2006 October 28, 05:29:43 »
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I thought even floppy-eared puppies tended to have pointy ears because their ears hadn't grown large enough to flop over from the weight yet. And no, some dogs are just naturally pointy-eared. I never clipped the ears on mine, and he still has pointy ears.
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« Reply #4 on: 2006 October 28, 05:40:42 »
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It really depends on the breed, whereas if they are cross bred, there is no guarantee that they will be either.  One of the puppies in my dogs litter had one pointy and one floppy ear yet their parents were both pedigree Australian Silky Terriers...     
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« Reply #5 on: 2006 October 28, 05:42:26 »
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It really depends on the breed, whereas if they are cross bred, there is no guarantee that they will be either.

One of the puppies in my dogs litter had one pointy and one floppy ear yet their parents were both pedigree Australian Silky Terriers...     
Most more modern breeds of dog are too new to really be set in their ways. That sounds very cute and adorable, though.
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« Reply #6 on: 2006 October 28, 05:54:30 »
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They were cute.   It was actually very difficult to give them away, but owning 8 dogs was just not an option... Sad

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« Reply #7 on: 2006 October 28, 05:58:00 »
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@ Pescado: Okay hearing you say "cute" and "adorable" disturbs me.
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« Reply #8 on: 2006 October 28, 06:12:54 »
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I was just thinking that!  Grin

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« Reply #9 on: 2006 October 28, 06:37:57 »
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Why? I think Pes is cute and adorable!  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: 2006 October 28, 06:59:07 »
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@ Pescado: Okay hearing you say "cute" and "adorable" disturbs me.

..How can anyone refer to puppies and not get all gooey about them

Why? I think Pes is cute and adorable!  Cheesy

Aww rohina, me too Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: 2006 October 28, 07:31:31 »
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..How can anyone refer to puppies and not get all gooey about them

Even Hitler loved dogs.
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« Reply #12 on: 2006 October 28, 09:05:40 »
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That sounds very cute and adorable, though.

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« Reply #13 on: 2006 October 28, 09:07:44 »
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That sounds very cute and adorable, though.

Who are you and what have you done with the real Pescado?

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« Reply #14 on: 2006 October 28, 09:23:49 »
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Aww rohina, me too Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: 2006 October 28, 09:41:44 »
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*nods approvingly* That's better... now all's right with the world.  Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: 2006 October 28, 10:19:43 »
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Aww rohina, me too Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: 2006 October 28, 12:33:06 »
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No wonder he didn't want the pets expansion, for so long. Look what talking about pets brings out in him ....  LOL
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« Reply #18 on: 2006 October 28, 12:52:50 »
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Just goes to show..Pes is human after all.. Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: 2006 October 28, 12:57:01 »
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nah, that was just a sock puppet talking.

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« Reply #20 on: 2006 October 28, 18:13:43 »
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Okeedokee, that was a fun (disturbing) little side trip. Kinder, gentler Pes? Eek. But, back to the original problem: yes, I believe in game, all puppies have floppy ears and that's expected (young puppies of many breeds have floppy ears that either become upright with age (German Shepherds) or are sometimes surgically cropped to be upright (Boxers, Danes, etc)) but the problem in this case is that purebred, CAP-created pointy eared dogs (thus no recessive floppy ears to get passed) are creating puppies (and subsuquently adult dogs) with floppy ears. Has anyone gotten offspring with pointy ears from any breeding? As I said, my personal experience was with Danny and Sarah Crittur who both have upright ears (and I've been told that their first litter is a clone of Sarah anyway)... I've had them have 3 litters that I let grow up and they all ended up with floppy ears. I'm wondering if it's working right for anyone and if not, if a fix can be created so ears pass correctly to offspring because, well, frankly, this sucks. Takes all the joy out of breeding for "purebred" looks when the offspring have the wrong ears. Or I could be taking this way too seriously...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: 2006 October 28, 20:06:13 »
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Cat ears are just fine. Clearly your problem is that you are a dog person.
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« Reply #22 on: 2006 October 28, 20:09:54 »
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Dog people are the best  Grin
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« Reply #23 on: 2006 October 29, 00:45:11 »
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I'm a cat AND dog person! :O
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« Reply #24 on: 2006 October 29, 01:15:20 »
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Man, oh man, this was a problem for me.  I have had both things happen----I created a dog in CAS that looked like my real dog (with pointy ears) and used the base "breed" of the Border Collie, because my dog is B.Collie/Samoyed/Aussie Shep.  I saved the breed, created one male and one female with no changes at all, and their litter was 3 puppies, all floppy-eared (I need a pointy one to be my puppy in-game).  Tried this again, with a new family and two new identical dogs, same thing, all pointy.  Then I had a suspicion maybe the Border Collie "breed" they put in the game has the floppy-gene in there, regardless of whether you make their ears pointy or not, so I re-did the breed, starting with a Samoyed as the base (which has pointy ears already), and when creating the male and female from this I changed just a few things on each dog ever so slightly, just enough that the game would register a difference between their genes.  This time, with two litters, I got one pointy-eared and one floppy-eared, which you CAN tell the difference between as puppies (see my thread on TSR for pictures of the difference: http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=322649).  Bottom line, I'm not sure whether they programmed some recessive-floppy genes in the base breeds of some dogs, etc, but it's stupid, it's broken and it sucks.
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