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« Reply #25 on: 2008 July 31, 05:48:11 »
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No wolf yet for me, or penguin, but I'm getting more strays than skunks.

As for toddler bathing, it varies from house to house. One has no tub on first floor. Onee has a tub in a nearby room. Most have a tub in the first-floor bathroom.
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« Reply #26 on: 2008 July 31, 06:39:30 »
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They do scream to be let out of their cribs when they wake up, but my Servos are smart enough to go do that right away.

Inge at Simlogical has a hack that allows toddlers to get out of their cribs autonomously. I'm not altogether sure, but they may need to be able to walk first. Either that or it's dependent on personality - a very few of my toddlers won't do it.
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« Reply #27 on: 2008 July 31, 13:13:47 »
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Inge at Simlogical has a hack that allows toddlers to get out of their cribs autonomously. I'm not altogether sure, but they may need to be able to walk first. Either that or it's dependent on personality - a very few of my toddlers won't do it.

I think it's based on the lazy/active level of the toddler, but yea, that's a very handy hack.

As for my no-wolf/stray issue, I took out nostrayrespawn last night before playing Desiderata, and immediately got strays on the first lot I played.  Didn't see a wolf until I used the NPC spawner on the mailbox to spawn one, but now there's one in the hood at least.  So I guess nostrayrespawn keeps any strays or wolves from spawning in a new hood. Now that I have some, I can put nostrayrespawn back in.

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« Reply #28 on: 2008 July 31, 13:34:22 »
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As for my no-wolf/stray issue, I took out nostrayrespawn last night before playing Desiderata, and immediately got strays on the first lot I played.  Didn't see a wolf until I used the NPC spawner on the mailbox to spawn one, but now there's one in the hood at least.  So I guess nostrayrespawn keeps any strays or wolves from spawning in a new hood. Now that I have some, I can put nostrayrespawn back in.

Excellent strategy!  Glad I thought of it.  Embarrassed  I will try this.
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« Reply #29 on: 2008 July 31, 14:02:09 »
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I've only have up to Seasons, but my toddlers were always bent on following, since the base game time - the only autonomous thing they would ever do after I hack-protected crappers against them (although neglected toddlers override that restriction). If a target is on another floor and there's a fishtank nearby, they'd at least go and gawk at it, if no fishtank - nothing. Just would sit and think of the stairs.

How I handle them, depends if I'm playing out some scenario or just killing time. If the latter, just lock the little bugger in the small room with floor blanket, a couple of snapdragons and a rabbit head and you can forget about it until its birthday. And nobabyharrassment is a must in any case. Arguably one of the most necessary hacks ever.

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« Reply #30 on: 2008 July 31, 15:44:37 »
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As for my no-wolf/stray issue, I took out nostrayrespawn last night before playing Desiderata, and immediately got strays on the first lot I played.  Didn't see a wolf until I used the NPC spawner on the mailbox to spawn one, but now there's one in the hood at least.  So I guess nostrayrespawn keeps any strays or wolves from spawning in a new hood. Now that I have some, I can put nostrayrespawn back in.

Excellent strategy!  Glad I thought of it.  Embarrassed  I will try this.
That's a good side effect for my 'hood-in-building. There aren't supposed to be any plants or animals on the mainland. No life, period. I'm going to set the visitor controller to ban all critters, but not having those character files will be nice. Right now, absolutely everyone is banned (no bills, not that it matters), though somehow the gypsy still showed up to drop off a lamp. No one was over 6 points in enthusiasm and no one had a LTA bar even a fourth full or was permaplat.  Roll Eyes

In Teardrop Isle, without having wolfwatchers at any point, I do get wolves on lots. Like with the other EP setups, wolves are more likely to show up on heavily treed lots, and I've definitely noticed that in play. I only have two stray pets left, which I need to get adopted into families or given to the pound, but the suckers never show up when someone is on the lot. Stupid tiny jack russell terrier and overgrown chihuahua thing!
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« Reply #31 on: 2008 July 31, 15:51:19 »
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Can't you also adopt strays via the tele-ma-phone? If you're tired of waiting for them...
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« Reply #32 on: 2008 July 31, 17:31:27 »
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I'm not sure if the pool of pets on the phone is the same as the pool of strays that wander lots. Maybe if you exhaust the pool on the phone, it gets filled with the strays?
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« Reply #33 on: 2008 July 31, 17:34:04 »
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I wasn't sure. I rarely do pets. I have it installed for the Space Theme furniture for the kiddos.
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« Reply #34 on: 2008 July 31, 17:40:40 »
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I'm not sure if the pool of pets on the phone is the same as the pool of strays that wander lots. Maybe if you exhaust the pool on the phone, it gets filled with the strays?
They are not the same pool. However, the dragooning of strays occurs if you have a piece of Awesomeware installed, nostrayrespawn. If you try to adopt pets and the adoption pool has been depleted, nostrayrespawn causes the game to start catching strays to offer prospective pet-adopters.
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« Reply #35 on: 2008 July 31, 18:58:52 »
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Ah, I knew there was more than one reason I kept nostrayrespawn in my game. Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: 2008 July 31, 19:32:44 »
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I'm not sure if the pool of pets on the phone is the same as the pool of strays that wander lots. Maybe if you exhaust the pool on the phone, it gets filled with the strays?
They are not the same pool. However, the dragooning of strays occurs if you have a piece of Awesomeware installed, nostrayrespawn. If you try to adopt pets and the adoption pool has been depleted, nostrayrespawn causes the game to start catching strays to offer prospective pet-adopters.
Well, that's nice. I have quite a few pets in the adoption pool at the moment (mostly kittens/cats and puppies, as Terrence has depleted all of the adoptable dogs, I believe). I want the strays gone the long way as it is part of the mayor's animal control initiative. All strays adopted/turned in, then I'm banning wolves.
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« Reply #37 on: 2008 July 31, 23:43:57 »
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Inge at Simlogical has a hack that allows toddlers to get out of their cribs autonomously. I'm not altogether sure, but they may need to be able to walk first. Either that or it's dependent on personality - a very few of my toddlers won't do it.

I think it's based on the lazy/active level of the toddler, but yea, that's a very handy hack.

I thought they only did it if 1) they can walk and 2) their Fun bar was really low.  I'm pretty sure that they need to have learned how to walk already, but my guess about the Fun need is just blind speculation.  That's what I've noticed anyway.
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« Reply #38 on: 2008 August 01, 01:27:40 »
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Inge at Simlogical has a hack that allows toddlers to get out of their cribs autonomously. I'm not altogether sure, but they may need to be able to walk first. Either that or it's dependent on personality - a very few of my toddlers won't do it.

I think it's based on the lazy/active level of the toddler, but yea, that's a very handy hack.

I thought they only did it if 1) they can walk and 2) their Fun bar was really low.  I'm pretty sure that they need to have learned how to walk already, but my guess about the Fun need is just blind speculation.  That's what I've noticed anyway.

The Maxis default is to allow toddlers who have learned to walk to escape from their cribs.  Inge's hack allows all toddlers to do this.
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« Reply #39 on: 2008 August 13, 16:04:50 »
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I was just noticing last night that I hadn't seen any stray animals in a long time - thanks to the mod - but I rather prefer it that way. Seeing strays on the sidewalk, especially when they're dumb enough to pass by when it's raining, guilts me into letting my sims befriend them. No strays, no guilt! I've also noticed, though, that three different wolves have spawned, one leader of the pack and two others. But this is also fine with me, as I like the wolves better than any of the Maxis dogs. Now, if they'd just eat the misplaced double bed on my apocalypse lot so I don't have to cheat and move it, myself and leave the damn cheapest trash can alone...

My toddlers follow their parents a lot, as well, but it hasn't been too annoying. Of course, I made it a bit worse on myself by finding a hack on MTS2 that lets toddlers walk up and down stairs. I got it for the reason professorbutters mentioned: when a bigger sim drags it off for whatever reason and leaves it marooned on a different floor from all its stuff. I prefer to use the toddler blanket or Rebekah's one-tile crib (with the added functions that all toddlers can get in and out, alone) and MsBarrow's feeding bowl. With sleep and eating autonomous, there's nothing to pay attention to toddlers for but aspiration boosts. Success!
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« Reply #40 on: 2008 August 13, 16:09:27 »
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I always wondered, because I never see any wolves, if you have the clean templates and nostrayrespawn... do you have to manually summon a Leader of the Pack?

Or do I just need to place some trees on my lots?
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« Reply #41 on: 2008 August 13, 16:25:00 »
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I always wondered, because I never see any wolves, if you have the clean templates and nostrayrespawn... do you have to manually summon a Leader of the Pack?

Or do I just need to place some trees on my lots?

I couldn't figure that out.  In the end I created a few wolves and a Leader of the Pack (two actually, by mistake) out of sheer impatience.  One of them ate Jfade's sofa.  I'm leaving nostrayrespawn out for a bit, until some strays actually spawn.  Then I can reinstall.

Still haven't seen a penguin.  I must get moar fishes.
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« Reply #42 on: 2008 August 13, 16:26:38 »
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I've seen penguins. Let your sims build snowmens.

Is there a safe way to summon LotP? I vaguely remember something about using boolprop is a Bad Idea, or is that only in neighborhoods that don't use the templates and should already have a LotP? My mind is making the connection that boolprop make LotP is along the same lines as using boolprop to give a sim an alien pregnancy. Bad mojo.
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« Reply #43 on: 2008 August 13, 17:17:16 »
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I really don't know what's bringing my wolves. It's an apocalypse lot on dirt terrain - no trees, no bushes, no pond. When the leader of the pack showed up, there was only my founder living there. He just came over and started digging a hole in the far corner. The other two came around before any kids were born.

I didn't use the cleaned-up templates when I installed the game on this laptop.
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« Reply #44 on: 2008 August 13, 17:29:06 »
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I use clean templates as well as the anti townie, dormie, and stray respawn hacks. My new 'hood spawned a white wolf (not LotP) night before last. I haven't gotten any other strays, and no townies or vacationers have spawned. I only have 19 townies and no vacation goers or locals.

The penguin is over all the time in this 'hood. No fishies and no snowmen. Winter only had a light dusting.
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Well, apart from the eaten sofa, and the fact that the wolves all seem to hate each other and fight constantly, there does not seem to be any borkage from my create LotP actions.  Mind you, time will tell, no doubt.
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Beancounters is plagued by penguins - no idea why. Maybe someone smells of fish.
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« Reply #47 on: 2008 August 13, 20:38:07 »
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Beancounters is plagued by penguins - no idea why. Maybe someone smells of fish.
Do they have any fish/boots up on display?
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« Reply #48 on: 2008 August 13, 21:44:02 »
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Is there a safe way to summon LotP? I vaguely remember something about using boolprop is a Bad Idea, or is that only in neighborhoods that don't use the templates and should already have a LotP? My mind is making the connection that boolprop make LotP is along the same lines as using boolprop to give a sim an alien pregnancy. Bad mojo.

I created mine with the NPC creator on the mailbox, and no problems that I've seen.
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Beancounters is plagued by penguins - no idea why. Maybe someone smells of fish.
Do they have any fish/boots up on display?

Not in the house, not. There are fish on display in the fish museum on one of their community lots. Currently the family owns 6 businesses and 3 vacation homes as well as the regular house.

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