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51  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: This new furious state on: 2005 September 25, 04:23:24

What I don't like is that if Alfred tries to flirt with Betty, and Betty rejects it but Betty's husband Charlie sees this, Charlie is furious at Betty.  That's just wrong.  So far I've only seen the old autonomous flirts, i.e. the Cow Mascot and the Professors, but people here have said they've seen Sims flirt on their own.

That's awfully annoying, but equally annoying are family members of old lovers getting upset over seeing my sim and her date, after said old lover has married another woman and had children.

Seriously, she woohooed with him back in college and as long as they never explicitly wrecked the "love" state of their relationship (I've never seen one just fade away, it has to be broken), she's supposed to remain faithful to him?  Even after he's married someone else?
52  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Restoring Pre-Nightlife Neighborhoods on: 2005 September 23, 20:23:49
Well, I've run into a problem trying to fix a broken relationship between a grandson and his grandmother (he had lost his family ties to her, and when I fixed the relationship with SimPE, it made him an adult living on a University lot) and have decided that I need to restore a backup copy of the neighborhood to fix this problem.  I have copies of all my neighborhoods that I had made prior to installing Nightlife.  I'm wondering, is simply transferring the pre-Nightlife folder sufficient to restore the neighborhood, or do I need to reinstall Nightlife entirely?

Thanks in advance.
53  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: So what is an overpopulated neighborhood anyway? on: 2005 September 23, 02:43:25
Just wondering if this problem is a symptom of an overpopulated neighborhood.  My copy of Veronaville has 742 character files.

I was playing a graduation party at a Greek House (and I had the amnesia fixes in place until I installed Nightlife a couple days ago, I don't believe that I've added any sims since then and even if I had, the sim affected was not the one added since then), which involved inviting a woman who was the graduate's mother, but also the grandmother of two other sims on the lot.  One of her grandchildren, who had had a friendship with her, seems to have lost that relationship, and has even had his family ties to her severed.  To him, his grandmother is now just like any other nonfamily sim, and he can flirt with her and kiss her romantically and so on.

I can restore the relationship with SimPE, but I'm wondering if this is one of the problems that an overpopulated neighborhood causes, and if it is, what critical fix fixes this issue?
54  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: So what's been fixed in NL on: 2005 September 14, 06:26:44
Someone has already mentioned the fact that Family Sims don't get their "Graduate 3 Children" want satisfied if they are not present when the third comes back from their final exam, but there is also a similar problem.  Popularity Sims who achieve their 20 Best Friends Lifetime Want on another lot (for instance, at a party) do not get credit, either.  A box comes up saying they've achieved it, but they don't get permanent plat or the Lifetime Want memory.  Similarly, we can probably also assume that if a Sim calls another Sim and they become best friends and that gives the called Sim 20 Best Friends LTW, they won't get their Lifetime Want achieved either.  The second one is particularly problematic because there is no way of knowing when it's happened.
I had someone try to reproduce the "Graduate 3 Children" bug, but they were able to do so.  Is it consistently reproduceable?  Are there any hacks that interfere with want check trees or otherwise in the related global trees?  I don't want to blame it on hacks, but we've been unable to reproduce this--perhaps we could get better repro steps?  I can have someone look into the 20 best friends thing, but no guarantees...

I've had a different problem with graduations that recently affected sims with the "Graduate 3 Children" bug.  It's not the bug that's been referenced here, in fact, it doesn't really have to do with the LTW itself.

Essentially, when a sim graduates, his relatives all receive the graduation memory.  Well, I've found that no matter how the sim graduated, if during adulthood the sim achieves another major accomplishment that would show up on relatives' memory panels, all the relatives will also get a "[X Sim] graduated Cum Laude" memory.  This affects sims with the Graduate 3 Children LTW because this counts as a graduation.  I've discovered this happening when a sim reaches the top of a career, that all of his relatives receive the memory that he graduated Cum Laude.  I'm not certain but it's also possible that it happens when a sim gets married.

It doesn't actually change the graduation status of the sim (that is, if he graduated Summa Cum Laude it still shows as such on his diploma) but it does count as a graduation on every relative's memory panel.  This can enable sims with the particular LTW to achieve it with only one or two actual graduations.

Just something to look into, although it is a bit less significant than most of the other bugs mentioned.
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