If you're going to use your spares as decoys, make sure you set up a house at the other end of the Neighborhood, far, far away from your playable house, that way the Mutants flock to that area thinking it's a rich feeding ground.     

   MostAwesomeOne, i redownloaded, installed.  Went to that dorm, cancelled her waiting BUY, instructed her to macro/use bathroom and she immediately went and took a shower while the other girl was taking a shower.   Later on, 2 male dormies also took a shower at the same time.   Works perfectly.   
   Later on, i'll retest the Maxis dorm that has one unixex terlet area with 2 gender specific shower areas attached.  I'm guessing i'll need a BUY in each gender shower area (set to room radius of course) plus the neutral BUY's in each Terlet for that setup?  i'm also guessing the neutral BUY's be set to a bigger radius so they see the showers?  Or would that cause the shower BUY's not kicking out a sim when finished, as it'll send them to another Terlet area?
   Editors note:  Deleting the example i put up on TS2, also removed the thank you as i have no goat available -  even when that "EP that shall not be named" arrives, i will still have no goat available.

   Well, i removed LizzLoves NoPrivacy Hack.   Pluncked down that U-shaped 9 person dorm.   2 bathroom areas, 1 male, 1 female.   2 Stall terlets plus 2 showers in each bathroom.   Put a BUY in each stall set to seek, room radius only (default setting) each one rejecting the other sex.
   Sent my female to macro/bathroom,  there was another girl on a terlet already, she went and used the other terlet.   The other girl (dormie=townie) went and took a shower, once my female got done with the terlet, she got kicked out and had the wait/clock icon even tho there was an available shower.

   I can't figure out how to insert pics from my comp to this msg, i read the help section but it still made no sense, sorry.   
   Do i have to type out the complete file/folder name for each pic?
   I went ahead and posted that 3 pic story at TheSims2 site -  http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=116116
   Pescado and anyone else interested, let me know when you've looked at it, then i'll remove that story.

Meska, do you happen to have any no-privacy mods?   I'm having the exact same problems with that same dorm.  I'm also using LizzLoves no-privacy mod.   I'll set up a new YA student and quickly run a test to see if there is any difference with that mod removed and BUY in the terlets.

Thanks for that link, i NOW understand what you guys meant, when you said Business's can make oodles amounts of money.       I just got done having one of my Merchant Sims (from a Medieval Royal Challenge) get his Gold Sales/Gold Flower Arrangment/LVL 10 Venue Business from scratch.  Tried out that (A Good business) the second one, and made 200k in the last 2 days.  At that point, i sent my sim home, that was more than enough for that families needs.   LOL  He wasn't even a PermaPlat sim and no money/mood cheats other than stuff from here.
(Edited for spelling mistalkes/misquotes by John)

   Something Pinstar said earlier keeps nagging at the back of my mind. 

   "With further playtesting I found that snapdragons are utterly broken"

   In what way?  Were they originally written to only last for a certain period of time/use, like the LoveTub?  Not as effective?
   Or did you just mean they've broken the challenge?

   Sorry for not including this in the other post, but i just remembered it (again).  Why should 'change appearance' be forbidden?   As far as i know, sims don't roll up wants to change their appearance, unless a sim's fun mood is raised if they cheer if they like their new appearance (tho i've heard the cheering/shrugging is purely random).

At least for the clothes part, is there an easy way for the Founder to bring different clothes home from the University?  I know with just the Univ EP, when i had my Founder bring a dresser home, clothes didn't follow, but i've yet to retry with OFB/NL.

   Now you've got me confused again, the way you phrased your answer, you've inferred that Elders may NOT meditate to die outside the 8 X 8 Family plot?  Otherwise, why would you take up valuable space in the basement?

   This does bring up a question tho.  What do you do with Family Members who move-out/not join the Family Household after Univ?   Do you have to play them or can you leave them in the Sim Bin?  You've already stated that blood-line family members who move out to find own place, can't unlock any careers.  I'm mainly thinking of Elders who have already contributed all they can and might just be in the way of future generations.

This is my interpretation of some of your questions with those rules:

2.  As long as it's not YOUR employee, it would be the same as eating at a restraraunt.

3.  I was reading this as per lot.  Also, i thought the computer would be covered under the 'Protection Money' and replaced each week.   It does bring up another question tho, if the computer IS covered by the mob, would you have to go back to your lot at the end of each semester, to replace the computer?  You wouldn't be able to take your own computer to a community lot so is it worth taking the computer with you.  Without Politics, you can't influence someone else to do your term-paper.

4.  I was reading it to mean 'Each' future YA has to be on a different empty lot, If 2 go at the same time, each would have to be on their own lot.  But since you won't be having them actually 'live' at that lot, all you'd need there would be a phone to call the taxi. 

<< plays 20 questions.

Is it bigger than a breadbox?

   Worst case scenerio, both my Founder and spouse fail to unlock Slacker Career, but do manage to get the Lie Detector from Criminal before getting fired.  Might end up being the only way to get the next gen's Creativity would be a teen job in Criminal.   Of course, it's entirely possible my Founder never unlocks a career and dies a lonely death.   Damn chance cards.  I'm thinking it's more vital to bring back at least 1 Elixer-Of-Life, to cover that possibility.  
   I've read that it's possible to get a YA abducted at Univ, would getting my founder YA abducted,  qualify for the Alien Technology unlocked?
   (From J. M. Pescado - What if you're resurrecting a bloodline member? If a member of your bloodline dies, can you resurrect him anyway?
   Are you thinking along the lines of, resurrecting one of your sims, who has already unlocked a Career, thinking they are now eligible to unlock a different career?

   If a teen has a job, leaves for Univ, would that qualify quiting that job, thereby blocking that career?

   If i may, i'd like to throw a new wrinkle into this challenge.   And no, i have no pre-set idea on how to benefit from it.

From the Challenge Scenerio:
    It's the super bowl and all across the region, people are watching.

   I take it you are referring to American Foodball's Super Bowl, which happens in Fed, and for most (if not all University's here) is the start of the 2nd smemster of the school year.
   In this case:
     1.  The Founder would be forced to move back to the Home Neighborhood at the end of his 7th semester, can NOT graduate.  (Since future YA's have to go to a desert/soil campus, that meant this campus was affected by the Meltdown's)
     2.   No Univ graduate may be moved into the home Lot until a Blood direct descendent graduates, there-by showing that the Univ is up and running.

  

You wouldn't be starting at the top job, you are limited to lvl 1 jobs from the paper as the only thing you can do with the computer is 'write novel', until Science Career is unlocked.  And remember, there are some difficulties there, you can't sell the output from that workbench, tho i'd imagine you can delete them from your inventory, and you need to make sure you have room in your inventory to hold that arrangement.   It would definitely be one of those things you'd need to already have done while the Founder is in University, and hope for no bad chance cards.   

Once per semester?  I can see twice during the time being at Univ, but...     lol  That 1200 they get won't go THAT far, at least for the sims i normally send thru.  Looks like i won't be sending kids to Univ until several restrictions have been lifted.  4th gen maybe, for me anyway.    lol

I'm given to understand, that while at Univ, only going to class would be allowed for future generations/YA's until Military was unlocked?

I was thinking to unlock Slacker first, as that would open up changing careers as much as needed, also allowing someone to get a career just to use a reward i might already own.  I always have terrible luck when it comes to those chance cards.

Reply to J. M. Pescado  "I think you need LESS WHINY. "

lol, trust me, i thought of that at first, too bad this isn't a More Awesome Challenge.

"-Cheats, mods or hacked objects that would give you an unfair advantage over a player who didn't have or use them may not be used."

I adore all of my mods (especially most of yours), it just piqued my curiosity and i wanted to satisfy my own mind IF i was to attempt this.   Heck, i can't even bare to give up the very first hack i every got, 'nospoiledfood' by Monique.

I will say this tho, afternoon of the 2nd day, i had my very first ever Sim to take a sponge bath.  It seemed almost as effective as a mid-priced tub, so that does ease my mind.

   LOL, just to show everyone how far i am from awesome, i can't even figure out what to do without showers/baths.  As a test, i started a sim in univ, 0 neat, 10 outgoing, 9 active, low in last two, Knowlege Sim.  I'm only on the morning of the 2nd day, and his constant yelling at me because of the flies buzzing around him is irritating.  Would being in hygiene desperation have any side-effects?   Increased chance of illness/disease for instance?  Or is it just something i'd have to put up with.  I've already tried having him washing his hands, and it took too long just to bring it up.
   And yes, i know the starting Sim CAN use a shower, just trying to look ahead.

I'm not sure i agree with your viewpoint.   True, i'm still a complete newbie when it comes to playing Sims, but this wouldn't be a 'hands-off' type challenge like the Asylum would be.  You have total control when they make their one meal a day, if a fire starts, woudn't you still be able to have your sims(s) get out their own fire-extinguishers?

Thank you, that fixed the problem with that particular Maxis dorm, now if i can just stop them from passing out from lack of sleep everywhere.   lol.   Everytime i send my kids off to Univ, i suddently remember why i hate those dorms and have them move into rental homes of thier own as soon as they have enough money.   

I also would like to know the proper set-up of BUY for that particular Dorm bathroom/shower combo.   It's a 3-stall unisex toilet with 2-double showers (one male, one female) in adjacent rooms.  You have to go thru the toilet section to get to the showers.   I've tried with 1 BUY for each toilet, 1 in each shower room, all set to room radius.   Tried with 2 BUY in each shower room.  Tried with a 10 radius.   I either get only one sim able to use the facilites if in the shower,  or multiple sims using the toilets but the females unable to shower.  (Had put a BUY in the male shower first, if that makes a difference).  I have the showers set to exclude the opposite sex in each section.  So far, i've yet to find the perfect set-up.

I've got the 7300 and from the beginning i was getting the Blue Screen of Death,  updated drivers at which point i wasn't getting that, instead my game would freeze for a couple of mins then crash to desktop.   Also was getting that SLI msg, drove me up the wall.   I ended up re-installing the video card using the installation disk that came with it.  For the last 2 weeks, i've had no more problems. 

Quote from: Liss on August 15, 2006, 08:42:04 PM

   In my opinion, venues are the WORST.  It takes for-freakin-ever to build up the stars.

Maybe i'm looking at the situation all wrong, but ticket Venues for me are the easiest to run and to get customer loyalty stars from.   One caveat of course, they aren't for making tons of money, just for the Business Perks.   I just buy a small community lot, build a small building, put in a few things to play with then have the owner go into a locked room, meditate, put the game on triple speed, then walk away.   Boring?   Yes, but it's effective.

Are you talking about the NPC's living in the Dorm?   From my experience, when i move a new playable sim into a dorm already full, the game will have one of those NPC's move out.   I don't think you can have those NPC's graduate, as they would have no-where to go, you'd have to make them playable, then delete them from the sim-bin.