About the Adjust Vistor problem I was having.... please ignore my idiocy, I hadn't realized (due to inability to fricken read English!) that it was no longer a pie menu option on the visitor, but a control object on the playable sim. DOH! Which is why it wouldn't do what I thought it should. So sorry. 

I downloaded the latest one before I started complaining. LOL I always assume that the MATY crowd is way ahead of me. I am going to take out all my hacks and start testing again. BRB

I used Paladin's program, no conflicts, yet here comes the damn gypsy again. I have settled for using in the InSIm to "delete" her when she comes on lot.

I have the visitor control hack and the no gypsy et al hacks, but they are suddenly not working after I loaded the grow up hack. Is that a function of needing to mod this to the Adjust... interaction? Or is it an alphebetical problem? Should I alter first, or play with folders first, is what I am asking.

"Smite" is now my all-time favorite! I love to zap my stupid sims! Makes the "hit by lightning" desire so easy to fulfill as well! You are trully awesome!