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Title: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 22, 04:52:59
So. I was playing my Free Love Cult tonight. It was the end of a very snowy winter (and a slow one, 12 sims in a four-story house on a 3x3 who typically bring 4 sims back home from work and school daily, plus juggling three baby-machines and their spawn). The spawn portion of the family consisted, at that time, of two teen girls Blythe and Brook, a boy child Efren and girl child Mindy, twin boy toddlers Ethan and Sebastian, a girl toddler Lexie, and baby Kennedy. Blythe, Brook, and Efren were in private school. Mindy was not as I was waiting until that afternoon, when the toddlers would transition, to ring up the headmaster again.

At 7 am I got the message that there would be a snow day. Yay! The parents would all be at work during the day, Bobbie as a Junior Officer, Jennifer as a Director, Yvonne as a judge, and Richard...obviously...as Cult Leader. No problem, the teens could handle the toddlers and baby. At 8'o'clock a school bus pulls up, but no one gets up to go to school and when I clicked on the bus as Efren I got nothing. I checked all the kids' queus and noticed that Mindy had "Go to School" queued up.

Wait....snow days discriminate between public and private school kids? Only the rich kids get the day off? What the heck is this? I say we boycott Eaxis.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Emma on 2007 August 22, 06:18:57
I've noticed this too, although it was on a different lot. My private schoolkids had 3 consecutive days off through snow and on the next lot, even though the snow was thick on the ground and it still continued to snow my public school simkid had no pop up message. I just thought it might be a random thing.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: SnootCB on 2007 August 22, 06:23:36
I'm pretty sure it is just random.  The vast majority of my simkids are in public school, but they do get snow days every once in a while.  It's just weird that the game didn't register the snow day for Mindy.  Hm.  Odd.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: pioupiou on 2007 August 22, 06:27:25
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that snow days are random and different for private and public schools. SO you could have had the snow day for public and nothing for private, or vice versa, or nothing for both, or snow day for both....


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Khan of Wyrms on 2007 August 22, 13:43:11
I'd say this is definitely random.  I had a similar occurrence once, save it was the private school kid that had to go to class and the public school brat got to stay home.  At first I thought it was planned this way, since it reminded me of my youth, having to go to school while all of the neighborhood kids got to stay home.  Overall, I'd have to say that snow days do not happen very often, and do not seem to have any relation to the quantity of snow on the ground either.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 22, 14:14:58
I've had snow days quite a few times, but it was always in houses where the kids were all in the same school type. Usually public. It always seems to occur when at least three days in a row have had snow. Heavy or not I'm not sure as I don't pay that much attention. But not always. I've had some lots which had heavy snow every day in Winter, plus a couple days into Spring and no snow day. So I'd bet it's like abduction but with higher odds. Something like "Is there snow?--Run probability of snow day (10% x days of snow)" but apparently it's run for each school type. It seems odd, but I guess I can convince myself that the public school is in Downtown Craziness and the private school is in Urban Paradise, or somesuch.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: idtaminger on 2007 August 22, 16:20:28
I think it's pretty realistic. I live in NY and I remember every time there was particularly heavy snowfall having to check the news for the school closing lists, to see which schools were closed and which weren't. Unfortunately for me I went to HS in Manhattan, which meant that unless it was city-infrastructure-debilitating snowfall I had to go to school pretty much all the time. The kids in the suburbs usually got snow days off, the lucky bastards.

So if you just imagine the private school being in a posh Uptown neighborhood, and the public school in suburbia, it makes sense to have different snow days.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Invisigoth on 2007 August 22, 20:09:19
Yeah, I think it's more realistic, too.  I was one of the few students who did not live on the campus of the private school that I attended and rather commuted from home.  When most of the students just have to walk across a field to get to class there are very few snow days.  My brother attended public school and it felt like he always got snow days.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: KatEnigma on 2007 August 23, 02:48:54
I've heard of this happening. The only weird thing is that I've noticed that if it's snowing at exactly 7 AM when the pop up is due for the "the schoolbus will arrive" crap, then my kids have a snow day. Why it would only trigger for one group and not the other, is probably a glitch, but I like the realism too. Not that I've ever had it happen- I wait to call the Headmaster until all the kids are schoolage, so I don't have to put up with him more than once per household per generation.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 23, 04:53:57
If I waited for that, the majority of the kids in this household wouldn't have made it. Blythe only has three more days in the house. And dealing with cranky, fun-deprived kids at the same time as two or three pregnant sims and a bunch of toddlers/babies is...not enjoyable. It's much better when I can immediately throw them at their homework, then pull some food out of the fridge and let them amuse themselves and me in the process.

Ah well. At least all the school-age kids are now in private school now. As soon as Kennedy and the (at least) two more spawn immediately eminent are school-age, I'll do the dance again. Then maybe one more time for the next round. The baby machines are getting close to elder.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: broo on 2007 August 24, 00:51:31
Damn, I hate snow days ;D But I like realism they add to the game...
 And talking about real life schools, I went to school in the country where minus 20 celsius and meter hight snow piles are standard for winter so I only had 2 "snow days" in 12 years. Here in Scotland they are closing schools, shops, everything when temperature hits minus 5.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 24, 04:45:50
Pssh. In my day, we had to walk to school, uphill and against the wind both ways, through the snow, while the Japanese would try to bomb us! You kids don't know how good you have it.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Simgoose on 2007 August 24, 05:09:44
Pssh. In my day, we had to walk to school, uphill and against the wind both ways, through the snow, while the Japanese would try to bomb us! You kids don't know how good you have it.
and let me guess, you all you got to play with was a brick that you kicked around... and on special days... you might get a news paper to wrap around it to soften the load?
well thats the stories i used to get told when i complained about school... of course im sure they were all BS.

another one that was told to me. was the only day they got off was when the teacher died. purely cause they had to wait for another one to come up from another town... all these BS stories of the yester-year.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 24, 05:11:18
and let me guess, you all you got to play with was a brick that you kicked around... and on special days... you might get a news paper to wrap around it to soften the load?
Naw. Bricks hadn't been invented yet. All we had were sticks. Sharp ones. AND WE LIKED IT!


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Emma on 2007 August 24, 06:22:26
Pssh. In my day, we had to walk to school, uphill and against the wind both ways, through the snow, while the Japanese would try to bomb us! You kids don't know how good you have it.

At least going home was downhill. Stop complaining!


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Mirelly on 2007 August 24, 06:45:54
Pssh. In my day, we had to walk to school, uphill and against the wind both ways, through the snow, while the Japanese would try to bomb us! You kids don't know how good you have it.

Crikey, that narrows down your demographics a bit. Pescado grew up in an Escheresque landscape, north of the tropics, in the early 1940s, within range of Japanese bombers.  ::)


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 24, 10:38:58
At least going home was downhill. Stop complaining!
No, it was uphill both ways. And I'm not complaining, we LIKED it.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Gwill on 2007 August 24, 11:07:51
I live in Norway; land of snow and ice and polar bears in the street, and I had never heard of the concept of a Snow Day until a few years ago.
I'm still not sure exactly what the point of it is.
Snow happens!  Prepare for it!


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 24, 11:08:43
Yes, it is clearly not a concept that has any relevance to Fat Gwilly People.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 24, 14:47:38
At least going home was downhill. Stop complaining!
No, it was uphill both ways. And I'm not complaining, we LIKED it.
Oh hush. My dad had to walk uphill both ways EVERYWHERE. It's called West Virginia.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Magicmoon on 2007 August 25, 01:54:20
It always seems to occur when at least three days in a row have had snow. Heavy or not I'm not sure as I don't pay that much attention. But not always. I've had some lots which had heavy snow every day in Winter, plus a couple days into Spring and no snow day. So I'd bet it's like abduction but with higher odds. Something like "Is there snow?--Run probability of snow day (10% x days of snow)" but apparently it's run for each school type.

It would be interesting exactly how it is calculated. The first snow day I ever had for the Sims was in mid-summer. (And no, a freak snowstorm was not going on). The penguin also appears almost as often in other seasons as it does in the winter. Originally I assumed that it would only be seen during the winter.

So exactly how did they calculate a mid-summer snow day?


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Dea on 2007 August 26, 23:14:24
Places that arent used to snow always get snowdays bc they dont know how to act.  When I lived in Colorado we never got snow days unless it snowed 8 feet and blocked the doors.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Sleepycat on 2007 August 27, 22:30:12
most snow days in my area are usually because of ice


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Aggie on 2007 August 28, 01:10:52
and let me guess, you all you got to play with was a brick that you kicked around... and on special days... you might get a news paper to wrap around it to soften the load?
Naw. Bricks hadn't been invented yet. All we had were sticks. Sharp ones. AND WE LIKED IT!

Sounds like your life has been forever documented in a Weird Al song, (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/weirdalyankovic/wheniwasyourage.html) you poor, poor bastard.  :P


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2007 August 28, 01:26:13
I have never once seen a snow day in my game. I've got about 6 families with kids, and theyve each had at least 2 winters.

No snowday.  Is it possible that ive got something that could be preventing it?  All hacks are MATY and i dont really have many hacks anyways.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 28, 01:27:12
No, your game just must be in Olde Timey Mode. In MY day, we didn't have snow days. We had to walk to school 10 miles, in the snow, uphill and against the wind both ways, while the Japanese would try to bomb us. AND WE LIKED IT!


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 28, 01:41:29
No, your game just must be in Olde Timey Mode. In MY day, we didn't have snow days. We had to walk to school 10 miles, in the snow, uphill and against the wind both ways, while the Japanese would try to bomb us. AND WE LIKED IT!
Bit of a broken record, aren't you?


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: jsalemi on 2007 August 28, 02:44:16
I have never once seen a snow day in my game. I've got about 6 families with kids, and theyve each had at least 2 winters.

No snowday.  Is it possible that ive got something that could be preventing it?  All hacks are MATY and i dont really have many hacks anyways.

Nah, they just seem to be sadorandom.  I've only seen a snow day once, and I've got at least 20 families with kids and/or teens, if not more.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Tyyppi on 2007 August 28, 09:56:23
Snow day? Bah, no snow day where I live in and this is a Nordic country. Foreigners with their snow days...


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 28, 11:01:43
Bit of a broken record, aren't you?
I'm old! I'm old and I have a long beard!


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Emma on 2007 August 28, 11:18:09
Bit of a broken record, aren't you?
I'm old! I'm old and I have a long beard!

You forgot:

'Now get offa my lawn dagnabbit!'


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 28, 16:09:40
Bit of a broken record, aren't you?
I'm old! I'm old and I have a long beard!
*pats the silly on the head*
It's ok. We all have our fantasies. If you need to be 80, crotchety, with a beard so long and thick that birds nest in it, more power to you.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 28, 16:38:56
No fantasy you can devise will ever manage to cover up the rotting stench emanating from your skull, your brains decomposing disuse because you are a stupid F.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 August 28, 17:06:49
As I have no real sense of smell, I have no idea as to what you are referring to.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 September 01, 15:46:41
Hey! Why doesn't Pescado insult me like that?!! *is jealous*


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Gwill on 2007 September 01, 20:25:55
Hey! Why doesn't Pescado insult me like that?!! *is jealous*

Because you're an INTJ.  We're much harder to insult.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Loncaros on 2007 September 04, 19:44:21
Pssh. In my day, we had to walk to school, uphill and against the wind both ways, through the snow, while the Japanese would try to bomb us! You kids don't know how good you have it.

Pssh. In my day, we had to walk to school, uphill and against the wind both ways, through the snow, while the Yankees actually DID bomb us! You kids don't know how good you had it.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 September 04, 23:21:59
Hey! Why doesn't Pescado insult me like that?!! *is jealous*

Because you're an INTJ.  We're much harder to insult.

LOL! So very true.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Keltobin on 2007 September 05, 11:22:42
My sim kids had a snow-day, but I was able to have a parent drive them to school anyway because they were young and I didn't want to hire a nanny.  They came home on the school bus as usual. 

To be honest, many private schools do have more snow-days and holidays than public schools; I used to get almost a month for Christmas and my overall schedule was more like university.  Public schools are under more pressure to have the mandated number of school days per year (at least 180) and there is always legislation trying to make the school years longer or do away with Summer vacation.


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 September 06, 02:12:55
Hey! Why doesn't Pescado insult me like that?!! *is jealous*

Because you're an INTJ.  We're much harder to insult.

LOL! So very true.

Oh. Makes sense. *feels superior*


Title: Re: Seasons of Discrimination
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 September 06, 17:51:37
Hey! Why doesn't Pescado insult me like that?!! *is jealous*

Because you're an INTJ.  We're much harder to insult.

LOL! So very true.

Oh. Makes sense. *feels superior*
He may be under the impression that it might actually upset me, too. Not so much. I'm more like "Yay! It talked to me!"