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Title: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 June 20, 20:04:10
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/terror/green.gif)
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/zip.gif)uni_ltws_sns.zip (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/seasons/hacks/uni_ltws_sns.zip)

Required:
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/zip.gif)ltwvariety.zip (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/seasons/hacks/ltwvariety.zip)

Required For LS Career LTWs:
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/zip.gif)ls_career_entertainment.zip (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/lsconv/careers/ls_career_entertainment.zip)
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/zip.gif)ls_career_gamedev.zip (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/lsconv/careers/ls_career_gamedev.zip)

Uni+LS Career LTWs for TS2Seasons
Made by: Flying Fish Systems (J. M. Pescado & Doctor Boris)

Congratulations to: Draklixa!

Special Thanks To:
Hobbsee the Scrawny Pencil Neck
Fat, Hairy-Bellied Ness
Rohina the Ugly Butted
Squinge the Non-Awesome
Fat Gwilly People

INSTRUCTIONS:
Place in your MYDOCU~1\EAGAME~1\THESIM~1\DOWNLO~1 directory.

FEATURES:
Minimalist package adding/enabling Uni career LTWs. Also will enable LS career
conversion LTWs IF you have them and have installed LTWvariety.

COMPATIBILITY:
This hack is fully compatible with all FFS hacks. For TS2Seasons+Uni ONLY.
Do not use in any other version of the game. Don't even think about trying it.

KNOWN ISSUES:
LS careers do not generate an LTW memory. Blame EAxis, LS doesn't have them.

SIDE EFFECTS:
May cause computer damage, incontinence, explosion of user's head, coma, death,
and/or halitosis.

WARNING:
Do not open, crush, dispose of in fire, put in backwards, short-circuit, or mix
with non-awesome hacks - may explode, leak, or catch fire, resulting in injury
and/or death.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Magicmoon on 2007 June 20, 20:31:20
Do the two careers overwrite the Seasons careers of the same/similar name, or are these added on so that there are 2 types of entertainment and gamer careers?

If they overwrite, what advantages are there to doing so?

The RTFM leads me to think that it is an overwrite since it talks about the possibly of the career reverting to the Seasons version after installation. At first, I thought it was for enabling these careers for those who don't have Seasons, but the first post clearly states we must have Seasons.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: syberspunk on 2007 June 20, 20:32:26
Sweet!  Thanks for this!  I are gonna try it as soon as I get home.  What an awesome idea, taking the Careers AND LTWs from Sims Stories and hax0ring it into TS2.  I'm glad you thought of it! ;)

(http://www.lolcats.com/images/u/07/22/lolcatsdotcomii3o5tqyqzkqa4gb.jpg)


Do the two careers overwrite the Seasons careers of the same/similar name, or are these added on so that there are 2 types of entertainment and gamer careers?

If I understand your meaning, the two LS careers are separate and totally different than any of the new careers from Seasons.  I believe it is game dev vs. gamer, and Entertainment vs. Musician or whatever the other one is. :P


Ste


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 June 20, 20:41:41
The RTFM leads me to think that it is an overwrite since it talks about the possibly of the career reverting to the Seasons version after installation. At first, I thought it was for enabling these careers for those who don't have Seasons, but the first post clearly states we must have Seasons.
It was speculated that this could potentially happen, but it didn't, and the careers remain seperate.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Emma on 2007 June 20, 23:05:19
Sorry to sound n00bish here, but is this hack ok to use if you don't have the LS careers installed?


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 June 21, 00:22:21
Sorry to sound n00bish here, but is this hack ok to use if you don't have the LS careers installed?
Yes, installing the LS careers is optional. They should not appear if you don't have them installed.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Emma on 2007 June 21, 13:28:59
Ok, thanks. :) Mind you, I might just add the LS careers now they can get the LTWs. Gonna see how it works on the uni ones first.

[edit] Just thought, what if your sim didn't go to uni and gets one of the uni careers as the LTW? Can it happen, or do only the graduates get these new LTWs?


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: BambuLimey on 2007 June 21, 14:18:03
That would be a "life sucks, and then you're raped by wild boars" scenario.

In my last hood, 3 sims out of CAS had the "Become Cult Leader" LTW. In my current hood, I'm running Syberspunk's Uni careers hack, and 2 of my first CAS sims have the LTWs of "Business Tycoon" and "Chief Of Staff" - both now impossible for non-graduates.

There's always the Lot Debugger, should this happen, and you don't feel like having those sims never Permaplat.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: syberspunk on 2007 June 21, 14:52:37
[edit] Just thought, what if your sim didn't go to uni and gets one of the uni careers as the LTW? Can it happen, or do only the graduates get these new LTWs?

I would imagine that they do not require Uni.  Since Life Stories doesn't have Uni built in (at least, I don't think it does).  So those jobs should be available to non graduates.  Unless you are using my unicareershack, which I included the entertainment and gamedev careers, but require a specific education for gamedev.

As BambuLimey points out, if you are using my hack, you may run into dead end situations like these (having Career related LTWs that can't be fulfilled, in particular if you have CAS born sims).  But, that would happen even without my hack, if you are using this one, since your CAS sims could also get the uni careers, and thus still be at a dead end.  Unless Pescado added checks for that?  I dunno.  There were also issues with say Elder Family sims who would get wants to have X children or what not, and couldn't do it, naturally at least, since they are past the child bearing age.  But I think Pescado fixed that with LTWVariety now, so that shouldn't happen.

I think it would be possible to add checks in the BHAV for each career track that requires Uni to see if a sim has actually graduated.  I don't know if Pescado's LTWVariety hack already checks for this...

And of course, you could always use the Lot Debugger or the Renuyu Orb thingy to reroll the LTW.


Ste


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Emma on 2007 June 21, 17:11:13
Thanks Ste, I think I will just re-roll if any of them get any LTWs they can't fulfill unless they are already permaplat. In that case, then they die ;D


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 June 21, 19:29:35
And of course, you could always use the Lot Debugger or the Renuyu Orb thingy to reroll the LTW.
Or the paper and boolProp to force them into the career track anyways.

That's what I did for Igor. I wanted him to unlock Enviro Sciences since it just made sense that a robot could do stuff with the toxic soil without croaking. Since technically servos get all the skill points, aspirations, and badges that their initiator does, it made sense for him to have the knowledge that goes with a Bio major. The creator and the iniator both had Bio degrees.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: syberspunk on 2007 June 21, 19:49:06
It would be neat if a generic check could be added for each Career related LTW, for sims who are adults, to see if they:

1) graduated and
2) have a major that matches the career, if it is required, as defined by the BCONs.

Of course, this might be a pain, since you'd have to be able to identify the career (maybe hard coding it as a param passing it to the generic BHAV), and finagle it so you could "read" the career BCONs.  I'm also not sure if, sims who have graduated from Uni, still have their sim data set as whatever major they finished with, or if that gets erased/reset.


I was also wondering... since it is possible to create custom memories... would there be a way to create LTW career related custom memories for the LS careers?  I mean, one could theoretically clone another LTW memory and just change all the appropriate text.  But I don't know if this requires some more hax0ring to actually get the memory "plugged in" so they work with the rest of the code.  I vaguely recall it being an indecipherable hot mess when I helped fix the Artist (I think it was) career with Squinge's hack.  As per usual, I didn't take any notes :P so I wouldn't even remember how things hook up together.  I just remember that there were certain files where you had to set the GUIDs properly here and there, and they weren't just normal BHAV resources.  It took me a crazy ass long time to figure it out, but I think it was just a case of a typo, where a B was there instead of an 8 (or vice-versa).  Anyhew... I was just wondering if it were at all possible to add custom memories?


Ste


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 June 21, 19:53:41
It's POSSIBLE to create LTW memories, but as the stringset info and icons are entirely lacking, and I lack the ability to create them, it's beyond me. The GUIDs for doing so actually exist, but for some reason Maxis omitted those objects from objects.package. If someone has actually filled those LTWs playing LS, let me know if the memories are entirely missing from the file.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: syberspunk on 2007 June 21, 20:09:39
For the icons... I nominate SaraMK for attempting to extract them from LS (if they exist).  Otherwise, i nominate someone who has the skills of an artist, like or very own resident, themaltesebippy. :D

It would be great if someone who has (or acquired) LS could test it out and attempt to fill those LTWs and see if a memory is generated.

Incidentally... The Sims Pet Stories should have been released by now.  Anyone know if it is acquireable and/or if there are any new objects and/or careers that are worth extracting?


Ste


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 June 21, 20:20:33
As far as I know, Syberspunk, the memories, texts, and icons don't exist, making extracting of them impossible, unlike the Uni LTW memories, which did exist, but just weren't enabled.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Emma on 2007 June 22, 13:37:23
Pescado, made this CAS adult sim and this is what showed up on the LTW panel.

(http://hometown.aol.co.uk/Madsimaddict/ltw.jpg)

Is it supposed to do that?

[edit] Ok, just changed aspiration on an existing adult sim, and the information was all correct, no '§careertrack career'. Weird. It was for one of the original careers though, don't know if that makes a difference.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 June 23, 22:42:26
Hrm. That's the LS career. Did you have it installed or not? It shouldn't have appeared if you didn't. Did you also not install LTWvariety? There's a check tree there that is used to detect the presence of the LS careers (and not pop up those wants if you do not have them installed).


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Emma on 2007 June 24, 06:49:57
No, I don't have either of those installed. I'll install them both now.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 June 24, 06:59:56
No, I don't have either of those installed. I'll install them both now.
LTWvariety is what controls the hooks to whether an LTW is "sane" and available". You need it so that the BHAV test can detect that the LS careers do not exist and not offer them up as LTWs.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Emma on 2007 June 25, 17:28:37
Well, I thought I'd had it installed already, but it wasn't there. It's installed now, and so are the LS careers and the LTW panel is displaying correctly now. TVM :)


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: virgali on 2007 July 10, 11:55:33
A stupid question:

What are the perks of these careers that ppl are going through the trouble of converting them to be installed in TS2? Also, do you get a careerreward too?

Just wondering if it's worth having these two carrers in my game alongside the seasons ones.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: jrd on 2007 July 10, 12:01:48
They're fully featured careers with chancecards and aspiration objects. And they have LTWs.

These careers are not in Seasons. Game Development and Gamer are quite different. As are Entertainment and Music.

So the perks are they work just like Maxis careers (except they lack a teenelder track). There are very few CC careers which offer aspiration objects, and only the best of them have chance cards and Maxis-like descriptions (many seem to use a first-person writing style or retardo-English/Netspeak). And no custom career I know of has an LTW.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: virgali on 2007 July 10, 12:37:09
Thank you for the info,

I guess I'll pass on these then. If I ever have the time to make a test game then I'll prolly come back to download but I'm happy with the current careers. Actually since OFB and with Seasons adding more things to sell, I'm finding these careers kind of boring and becoming useless, since there's much more fun ways to earn money in game. I mainly let my sims play them to get the careerewards without having to cheat.

Greets and such.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: akatonbo on 2007 July 10, 14:01:08
Speaking of, anybody happen to know where to snag the basic data about those careers online? GameFAQs fails at Sims-related stuff (even the Prima guides are better).


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Havelock on 2007 July 11, 08:13:29
It's POSSIBLE to create LTW memories, but as the stringset info and icons are entirely lacking, and I lack the ability to create them, it's beyond me. The GUIDs for doing so actually exist, but for some reason Maxis omitted those objects from objects.package. If someone has actually filled those LTWs playing LS, let me know if the memories are entirely missing from the file.

I have played the Entertainment Career in LS but there is no LTW Memory when reaching the Top, so it must be missing.

Edit: Addet a ZIP with the LTW memory icons. Made them myself so not so shiny as maxis ones.

Edit2: dont download the zip at the end of this post until you are a modder wo likes to make a LTW for the LS Careers.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: jolrei on 2007 July 17, 16:08:02
For TS2Seasons+Uni ONLY.  Do not use in any other version of the game. Don't even think about trying it.

Forgive what may be a dumb question, but does this mean you need Uni OR Seasons, or is it for Uni AND Seasons only?

Or to put it another way, I don't have Seasons and am wondering whether this will work.

EDIT:   OK, re-read the thing again.  My interpretation is now Seasons+Uni implies one needs both.  Correct?


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: kuronue on 2007 July 17, 21:40:14
Yes.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Alie on 2007 July 17, 21:50:48
OK, I've now fulfilled two LS career LTWs and they do not grant perma-plat NOR did they roll off the sim once want was achieved.  Functionality of LTW = LOW.

I toggled it on with the lot debugger, but then had to manually reroll.  Felt cheaty.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Ness on 2007 August 12, 12:28:23
Needing to report the same thing as the previous post.

Reaching the top of the entertainment career does not satisfy the corresponding LTW.  Unsure about game development.

Pescado, please fix!


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 12, 17:44:42
Investigating: Does this bug occur if you try to satisfy them in LS? It might be potentially related to the fact that LS career LTWs have no corresponding memory, perhaps causing the LTW code to barf.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Ness on 2007 August 12, 20:31:18
Don't have LS so can't check this for you.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 August 12, 20:40:31
I will continue investigating why this doesn't trigger. Also, death to all Nesses.

UPDATE: Caused by LS careers lacking top memories. Fabricated one, since they never existed in the original LS game either, so probably didn't work there, either. Death to all Nesses.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: pioupiou on 2007 September 03, 16:39:06
I think there is some sort of conflict with the new LTW memories for life stories careers : one of my sims (LTW business tycoon) shows a strange memory : the name is for slacker, the icon is for entertainment (life stories) but the one you have when you expand the memory is business (the career she actually maxed). I can provide a screenshot if it helps. Later she maxed athletics (LTW) and the memory is correct. Her husband maxed criminal (LTW) and the memory is correct.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/pioupiou1717/untitled3.png)


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 September 03, 18:47:00
Do so now.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: SimKristen on 2007 September 13, 18:31:04
I know it says only for Uni and Seasons, but I gave it a try with BV installed. I'm not using the LS careers -- I only wanted the Uni careers back as LTWs, so I only downloaded and installed uni_ltws_sns.zip. When one of the uni careers is rolled as a LTW, the career name doesn't display. Instead, the LTW says "reach top of $careerTrack career."

The only other hacks I have installed are two of your BV fixes --  the tour guides and the orchard trees patches.

Anyway, just wanted to mention the problem that I'm seeing. 


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 September 14, 03:33:01
You need ltwvariety for the BHAV that disables the missing wants.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: SimKristen on 2007 September 14, 23:44:06
Thanks, I don't know how I missed that requirement.  :-[  It seems to be working fine now with all expansion and stuff packs installed.

You need ltwvariety for the BHAV that disables the missing wants.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Madame Mim on 2007 October 04, 11:41:29
Can anyone confirm that having these mods in their game cannot, will not and does not, prevent LTW satisfaction from occuring when a Sim reaches the top of the Law Enforcement career?

A Sim in my game had the Law Enforcement career LTW, reached the top of the career and did not receive platinum status. I'd like to exclude these mods for certainty before I go searching for whatever might be the culprit - oh, and I do have the latest versions.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: jolrei on 2007 October 04, 15:03:16
Can anyone confirm that having these mods in their game cannot, will not and does not, prevent LTW satisfaction from occuring when a Sim reaches the top of the Law Enforcement career?

A Sim in my game had the Law Enforcement career LTW, reached the top of the career and did not receive platinum status. I'd like to exclude these mods for certainty before I go searching for whatever might be the culprit - oh, and I do have the latest versions.

I have a sim close to Captain Hero status with that LTW.  If you wait a couple of days, I can report back.  I'm certainly hoping she goes permaplat.  All that skilling when she could have been in the pool.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Madame Mim on 2007 October 04, 22:29:23
Thanks. Of course now I'm in two minds. It would be really convenient if these mods are the problem, Pescado would just fix them (he's no EA), but I also don't want your Sim to have to miss out on its LTW. I'll keep an eye on this thread for your update.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: jolrei on 2007 October 05, 04:07:51
Thanks. Of course now I'm in two minds. It would be really convenient if these mods are the problem, Pescado would just fix them (he's no EA), but I also don't want your Sim to have to miss out on its LTW. I'll keep an eye on this thread for your update.

Oh, is no real problem.  The sim will get to the top of her career.  If she gets platinum status, then we know something.  If she doesn't, then I have the same problem as you and we learn something else (like this is not just random).  Either way, something's gonna happen.  If she does not get platinum when she reaches what should be her LTW, I can always cheat her permaplat status via Insim - after all, technically she will have earned it.  Whether she gets the memory or not, I don't know, but I can add that with SimPE as well.  Whatever happens I'll report.

It just occurs to me that when BV was first loaded and I attached my play hoods, there was one sim male who was already permaplat that started going down to gold and then to green asp level again.  I thought that was odd, exited without saving, and looked him up in SimPE.  He seemed to check out OK so I didn't save anything there.  When I went back into the game, I had to boost him to maximum aspiration level (not permaplatinum, just maxing the aspiration bar), and it stayed there (no further deterioration).  Never happened to any other sim (so far) in my game.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: jsalemi on 2007 October 05, 12:52:30
The Lot Debugger also has an option to make a sim permaplat (or not -- it's a toggle).


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: jolrei on 2007 October 09, 13:46:09
Thanks. Of course now I'm in two minds. It would be really convenient if these mods are the problem, Pescado would just fix them (he's no EA), but I also don't want your Sim to have to miss out on its LTW. I'll keep an eye on this thread for your update.

For what it's worth, here's the update as promised - took all weekend due to a bad result on a chance card, but she made it to the top of the law enforcement career.  Captain Hero at last!

She did get her LTW and permaplatinum status, as normal.  So, at least in my game, which has only awesome and other BV updated hacks in, this is working properly.  I hope this helps.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Madame Mim on 2007 October 09, 14:53:46
Well the Sim who didn't in my game has one son with the same LTW and he got his just tonight, so it must just have been that one Sim - wierd. Thanks for the update.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Ness on 2007 October 12, 04:44:09
I have BV, LTWvariety, this hack, but NOT the life stories careers.  I'm not getting the uni LTWs to come up at all...  is something messed up, or is this just completely and utterly random?


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 October 12, 05:59:30
Probably a factor of poor sim interests and lack of Dead Nesses.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Ness on 2007 October 12, 06:14:24
How will more dead Nesses improve my sims' LTWs?

Is there a run down on the personality traits/aspirations/interests required to get the uni LTWs?  If I can locate a sim that should be able to get one of them and check, will be easier to find out if it's just sadorandomness or something's not working.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 October 12, 06:16:22
How will more dead Nesses improve my sims' LTWs?
More dead Nesses improves EVERYTHING. Why not come join Tradewars? We need MOAR DEAD NESSES.

Is there a run down on the personality traits/aspirations/interests required to get the uni LTWs?  If I can locate a sim that should be able to get one of them and check, will be easier to find out if it's just sadorandomness or something's not working.
It's in the LTWvariety thread.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Ness on 2007 October 12, 06:27:39
Time constraints don't allow me to join tradewars this time round.  You should have started two weeks ago, or wait 8 weeks, and then I'll be fine.

Found the list.

Using a popularity sim to check...

Personality: Neat=5; Outgoing=5; Active=7; Playful=3; Nice=7.

From the list, the relevant uni LTWs are:
Cult Leader: Asp(Popularity|Knowledge) AND Paranormal >= 700
Icon: Asp(Popularity|Pleasure|Romance) AND Outgoing >= 300 Entertainment >= 700 AND Culture >= 400
Visionary: Asp(Romance|Popularity) AND Culture >= 500

She has the relevant outgoingness required.
Interests in Paranormal=8; Entertainment=9; Culture=8

She should qualify for all three, but the only LTWs I can get coming up are: 20 best friends, Become captain hero, own 5 top level businesses, become media magnate, become the law and become celebrity chef.  Yes, I have cycled through them all.

Something's definitely screwy, where should I start looking?


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Ness on 2007 October 12, 22:42:49
Just want to add that the recent update seems to have fixed the problems I was having.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: mickeycollins on 2008 March 09, 16:29:57
will this work with free time if not can you update it for free time


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: jsalemi on 2008 March 09, 18:46:42
will this work with free time if not can you update it for free time

All FT-compatible hacks can be found here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/index.php?dir=ft%2F

(and yes, this is there.  Search is your friend, and reading is FUNdamental.)


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: mickeycollins on 2008 March 10, 12:05:34
will this work with free time if not can you update it for free time

All FT-compatible hacks can be found here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/index.php?dir=ft%2F

(and yes, this is there.  Search is your friend, and reading is FUNdamental.)
awesome thank you


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: gynarchy on 2008 March 10, 17:23:19
Just a small issue - "Buy A Tent" appears as a blank want with a simolean sign in the corner. The mouse-over text appears correctly but the actual want image isn't appearing.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: pepsihamster on 2008 March 12, 07:38:53
I have problems with rerolling LTW.

I have installed the ltwvariety.zip 5KB (2008 Mar 01 13:05) and the uni_ltws_sns.zip 34KB (2008 Mar 11 19:10=, so that LTW based on the Uni-careers can spin up.

Now I have tried to reroll the LTW on my sim with the "College Adjuster". The college adjuster is a tool that will enable you to reroll ALL LTW that are possible in the game (and therefor also the new Uni-careers), so that you can assign a different LTW to your sim than the one it was born with.

But the problem is that the only new LTW that will spin up (after installing the hacks) is the Visionary (artist track).
The Cult Leader, the Ecological Guru and the Icon don't come up.  :(

Only other downloads I have at this point are "college adjuster" and a "Free Time Aspiration Critical Fix from aestudios".

Why don't the remaining 3 LTW show?  Please help. I have been trying for hours to make it work. :'(


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Kyna on 2008 March 12, 08:01:43
Maybe this information from the LTW variety thread will help answer your question.

Okay, here's the definitive prerequisites of all the LTWs. Sims must meet the prerequisites at the time you roll for the LTW:

General LTWs: No Repeats
Golden Anniversary: Asp==Family AND !Elder AND !Zombie AND !Robot AND !Vampire
Graduate Children: !Robot AND ( Asp==Family OR ( Asp==Knowledge AND NKids >= 3 ) ) AND ( !ElderFemale OR NKids >= 3 )
Grandchildren: !Robot AND Asp==Family AND TotalNeighborhoodLinkedPopulation < 400
Marry Off Children: !Robot AND Asp==Family AND ( NChildren >= 6 OR ( TotalNeighborhoodLinkedPopulation < 250 AND !ElderFemale ) )
Own Businesses: Asp == (Fortune OR Popularity)
Puppy/Kittens: Asp==Family AND Animals >= 800
Pet Friends: Asp==Popularity AND Animals >= 800
Pet Careers: Asp==Fortune AND Animals >= 800

Career LTWs: CareerSpecific() AND !MaxedInThisCareer AND !Elder
Celebrity Chef: Asp(Family|Popularity|Romance|Pleasure) AND Food > 700
Party Guest: Asp(Romance|Pleasure) AND Playful >= 300 AND Outgoing >= 300 AND Entertainment >= 400 AND Fashion >= 400
Cult Leader: Asp(Popularity|Knowledge) AND Paranormal >= 700
Ecological Guru : Asp(Knowledge) AND Environment >= 700
Entertainment*: Asp(Popularity|Fortune) AND Outgoing >= 300 Entertainment >= 700 AND Culture >= 400
General: Asp(Popularity) AND Nice <= 500 AND Outgoing >= 300
Mad Scientist: Asp(Knowledge) AND Paranormal >= 400 AND SciFi >= 400
Hall of Famer: Asp(Romance|Fortune|Popularity) AND Active > 500 AND Outgoing >= 300 AND Sports >= 700
Chief of Staff: Asp(Family|Fortune|Knowledge) AND Nice > 100 AND Health >= 700
Icon: Asp(Popularity|Pleasure|Romance) AND Outgoing >= 300 Entertainment >= 700 AND Culture >= 400
Mayor: Asp(Family|Popularity) AND Outgoing >= 500 AND Politics >= 700
Superhero: Asp(Family|Popularity) AND Nice >= 100 AND Crime >= 500 AND No Liked Criminal Family
Criminal: Asp(Fortune|Knowledge) AND Nice < 500 AND Crime >= 700 AND No Liked Police Family
Tycoon: Asp(Fortune) AND Money >= 700 AND Work >= 400
Visionary: Asp(Romance|Popularity) AND Culture >= 500
Adventurer: Asp(Fortune|Knowledge) AND Outgoing >= 500 AND Travel >= 700
Edumacation: Asp(Family|Knowledge) AND School >= 700
GameDev*: Asp(Knowledge|Fortune) AND Playful >= 500 AND Entertainment >= 500
Gamer: Asp(Knowledge|Pleasure) AND Playful >= 500 AND Entertainment >= 500
Journalism: Asp(Popularity|Knowledge) AND Outgoing >= 200
Lawyer: Asp(Fortune|Popularity) AND Politics >= 400 AND Money >= 400 AND Crime >= 400 AND Work >= 400
Music: Asp(Romance|Popularity|Pleasure) AND Playful >= 500 AND Outgoing >= 500 AND Culture >= 400 AND Entertainment >= 700
*: requires LS career conversions to appear

What aspiration is your sim?  And what are their interests?

To get the Cult Leader LTW to show up, your sim needs to be either Popularity or Knowledge and have at least 700 interest in paranormal (i.e. at least 7 bars of interest).
To get the Ecological Guru LTW, your sim must be Knowledge and have at least 700 interest in the environment.
To get the Icon LTW, your sim must be Popularity, Pleasure or Romance, must have at least 3 outgoing points, have at least 700 interest in entertainment interest and at least 400 interest in culture.

I did have the Ecological Guru LTW roll up in my game (which includes FT) just yesterday, and I rerolled it as the sim wasn't a uni grad.

I have the college adjuster, it only cycles the LTWs that are available to your sim, it does NOT cycle through every LTW in your game unless you have a hack that enables "any LTW for any sim" (such as Squinge's, which is now out of date as it doesn't include the FT LTWs).  Neither LTWvariety nor uni_ltws_sns enable "any LTW for any sim".  uni_ltws_sns adds the Uni LTWs to the mix, and LTWvariety changes the LTWs available to sims, based on their interests & skills.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: pepsihamster on 2008 March 12, 10:27:13
Kyna, thanks  :)

Before I go in and check up on all the point etc. - does this mean if I uninstall the LTWvariety, the 3 "missing" LTWs will appear in the college adjuster and I can choose them for my sim? If yes, will it work like with all the other LTWs I have in the game now?  Or do I need the LTWvariety hack for something else to work, if you know what I mean?


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: Kyna on 2008 March 12, 10:32:54
Kyna, thanks  :)

Before I go in and check up on all the point etc. - does this mean if I uninstall the LTWvariety, the 3 "missing" LTWs will appear in the college adjuster and I can choose them for my sim? If yes, will it work like with all the other LTWs I have in the game now?  Or do I need the LTWvariety hack for something else to work, if you know what I mean?

No, it won't make those LTWs appear if your sim has the wrong aspiration for them.

The college adjuster only cycles wants that are available to your sims.  Availability is decided by EAxis rules (i.e. based solely on aspiration) unless you have a hack that modifies the availability rules (such as LTWvariety). 

Uni_ltws_sns without LTWvariety would make the uni LTWs available using EAxis rules, i.e. based on aspiration.  Even though EAxis decided in the end not to include those LTWs in the game as it was shipped, they exist in the code with associated aspirations.

To make those LTWs available to your sims on the college adjuster regardless of their aspiration, skills and/or interests you would need a hack that enables "any LTW for any sim".  To my knowledge, the only hack that ever did that was Squinge's, which is now out of date as it doesn't include the Free Time LTWs.

Your best bet to get those LTWs to appear is to use uni_ltws_sns and LTWvariety, and change your sim's interests and aspiration to match the requirements that I quoted earlier.


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: pepsihamster on 2008 March 12, 11:07:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was missing 4 points in entertainment!
I made them with testingCheats, just to see if that would change the roll. And it did - the Icon came up, clap, clap!!  :D
I didn't save though, because I don't want to cheat  ;)

Thank you so very, very much for taking the time to make me "get it"/"get it right" Man that was enoying, because she had a major that would fit the showbusiness track and a lot of points in kreativity and stuff.

So, now all I have to do is decide which way I want to play it. The Maxis way or the MATY way, he,he. I think I am keeping the LTWvariety and print out a list (one that also includes the new careers from FT, like architect...) for each LTW.
That would be more fun. 8)
Thank you again  :-*


Title: Re: Uni+LS Career LTWs
Post by: twistingsims on 2008 March 23, 18:45:06
. . . speaking of this lovely hack, would it be possible to update that list for the FreeTime Careers?

I would like to know what the aspirations and interests formulas are, that determine each of the careers.

Thankyou  ;D