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TS2: Burnination => Oops! You Broke It! => Topic started by: Simlover on 2007 April 08, 07:56:23



Title: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Simlover on 2007 April 08, 07:56:23
It seems in EA's ultimate wisdom they sent the UK english version of celebrations to Australia instead of the US english version.  Besides changing the clock to 24 hour time, seems it can also alter names.  I know that this isn't something new to people who have used mixed packs but whereas there was a fix by changing the registry this doesn't work with Celebration pack due to their being no US-en support files for it to switch too.

I know backing up your game is a recomendation in any case before installing an expansion, but I stupidly had become complacent and not done so (especially considering this was just supposed to be stuff) and consequently have lost months of gameplay.  Changing the names of the pets in game wasn't an option because when I went to do that the game seemed to think they were plant sims not pets. Who would have thought :-\


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Faizah on 2007 April 08, 08:15:34
I'm confused... Nothing to do with Celebrations, but why do we get the US version? I would've thought we'd get the UK version. If that's the case, why are there even separate versions for UK and US? It can't be because of the difference in language, as we tend to follow the UK in that department. ::)


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: jsalemi on 2007 April 08, 13:42:56
If that's the case, why are there even separate versions for UK and US?

Differences in spelling, most likely -- US English and UK English are diverging more and more on this as time goes on. Plus there are some common objects with different names in the two countries (i.e., elevator vs. lift).


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 08, 13:46:12
Actually, near as I can tell, Sims never makes use of this. All English strings use American spelling regardless of whether it's en_us or en_uk. The en_uk strings are usually identical to the en_us strings, except in spectacularly noted bugs, making them a waste of space.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 08, 21:52:30
Yeah, I'm pissed about this.
My lovely custom hood got weird names, but only for CAS sims. All sims born in game were okay.
Is there any fix for the clock? Could some one post a link if there is?

*sigh*

What a waste of $30.00

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Hitch on 2007 April 08, 22:11:26
Yeah, I'm pissed about this.
It's not worth getting drunk over. Oh wait, did you mean angry? That's why we need proper localizations.

Is there any fix for the clock? Could some one post a link if there is?
There is a fix for this. It's pretty simple. You should be able to find it easily on this site. For me to find it and post a link would be to encourage excessively sheepish behavior.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 08, 22:19:06
Yawn. Thanks for the so called wit Hitch.

Quote
I know that this isn't something new to people who have used mixed packs but whereas there was a fix by changing the registry this doesn't work with Celebration pack due to their being no US-en support files for it to switch too.

Been there and tried the normal fix, it didn't work, that's the reason I was asking about a fix for this. Try reading. It normally helps.

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Hitch on 2007 April 08, 22:32:01
No.

It does work. You lose at the Sims.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Ness on 2007 April 08, 22:39:18
I believe Simlover also tried the fix but was completely unable to return the clock to normal.

Before pasting someone like that, you should know what you're talking about.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Hitch on 2007 April 08, 22:42:48
Quit enabling the sheep. I've switched the clock back and forth in my game. I know it works. Skadi is bleating that it doesn't in an effort to get someone to hold his hand and repeat the instructions once again because he's too lazy to work it out himself.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 08, 22:45:08
Ahem. Herself.

And I have also done it. But since Celebrations it is no longer working.

There is no bleating here. Just Hitch proving that reading and comprehending are very different things.

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Simlover on 2007 April 08, 22:46:57
Hitch you are an airhead!  Reread my first post *throughly* if you are capable and you will find that the fix does not work for the celebration pack.  Maybe if you pull your head out from your arse for long enough you would know that.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Hitch on 2007 April 08, 22:47:53
Let's try this again.

I have Celebrations.

It works.

Who has problems with reading comprehension?


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 08, 22:52:26
Hitch, what state in Aus are you in? Where did you get your copy?

I'm beginning to be concerned with EA borkedness.

Did you get the name change as well, or just the clock change?

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Annette on 2007 April 08, 23:45:37
Did you see this at the bbs   http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?threadID=578728eb397b07957f7f37fe42b34dce&directoryID=169&startRow=76&openItemID=item.169,root.1,item.43,item.61,item.41,item.127,item.23s
Haven't tried it, I just renamed my sims first names with Merola's painting and am living with the Maxian surnames.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Millikat on 2007 April 09, 00:15:45

I was able to change the clock back to twelve hour time by following the instructions given in previous threads on this, however I still had to change the surnames in SimPE. The game didn't suffer any adverse effects that I could tell, however this was a new hood that had only a few hours of game play.

Perhaps this is what Hitch did also?


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Lythdan on 2007 April 09, 00:20:14
How do we know Hitch even had a problem in the first place? He sounds like all he did was use the fix on a normal install, and under normal circumstances, it would work.

I'm an Aussie, and I was considering getting Celebrations, but I probably won't now.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 09, 00:26:37
Well, it didn't work for me, but it did work for someone else on my forum.

I'm off to do the time honoured re-install.

From what I gather about Sara's experience, if you do this straight after installing, before loading it should work. [at least, it did for her].

Is there no limit to what EA can bork?

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Simlover on 2007 April 09, 00:31:04
Is it possible the people that aren't having problems with it in Aus are using bit torrented copies and not bought versions?


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 09, 00:40:00
No, I forked out 29.95 at Big W for my Celebration Stuff with new and shiny random name feature.

I think I would be less annoyed if I had pirated it. Then I would have at least got what I paid for!  ;D

I have all eps, and stuff packs, all patches etc.

No EA link downloads, all discs, never had this issue before, but had played with the clock.
*sigh*

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Simlover on 2007 April 09, 00:48:12
Yes Skadi but with your new Celebrations pack, that you paid for, you cannot change the clock.  I bought my copy and cannot change the clock either, I even copied over a us-en support file into the Celebrations directory to see if that would help but to no avail.

I have a feeling that those who are able to change are using either bit torrented copies or not the copies that we bought in Australia.  I bought mine in Brisbane.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Hitch on 2007 April 09, 00:50:02
I never had a problem.

When I installed, it did it's usual change to UK English / 24 hour clock thing. So I applied the usual fix to get the 12 hour clock I prefer. Didn't think anything about until today when I saw this thread about not being able to change the clock. So I wondered if I had imagined things and set my game back to UK English and checked to see that I had a 24 hour clock. I did. I put it back to 12 hour. It changed back. So I posted that you can, in fact, change the clock with Celebrations installed. But I guess I'm insufficiently Australian to make it not work.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 09, 00:51:15
I'm in Brisbane too.
A bad batch perhaps?

I have almost finished reinstalling, so we'll see then.

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Lythdan on 2007 April 09, 00:54:43
But I guess I'm insufficiently Australian to make it not work.

I guess you never bothered to read properly. This is a problem with Australian games. We usually get the US versions, with the 12 hour clock, but they messed up with Celebrations and gave us the UK. Having two different EPs with different language versions has screwed something up, and the clock change fix is now not working as intended. If your game *usually* changes to UK 24 hours, that must mean that you always get UK version games so this problem would not affect you!


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Simlover on 2007 April 09, 00:56:11
Ya know Hitch it's just so funny that I have always bought my copies here in Brisbane, from 3 different retailers and not once has my clock changed to 24 hour time.  This is the first time there has ever been any problems.  Maybe there were different batches sent around the country, or maybe you are not even in Australia but just like to make an ass of yourself.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Simlover on 2007 April 09, 01:31:46
Skadi when you edit the registry don't change the hexadecimal value from 1.  I have just changed mine and it is now working, if it still doesn't work for you then you may need to copy the us-en support file over.  If you have probblems then post back here and I will post pathways.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 09, 02:19:51
I did a full install, and did the same thing as before and its playing nice now.
Damn borked EA crap.

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2007 April 09, 22:36:43
Quit enabling the sheep. I've switched the clock back and forth in my game. I know it works. Skadi is bleating that it doesn't in an effort to get someone to hold his hand and repeat the instructions once again because he's too lazy to work it out himself.

Interesting.
Not only does the moron refuse to read posts, he/she decides that of course he/she knows better than the 2 people that are saying theyre having issues.  Throw in a couple of calls of OMGZZ U IS A SHEEP from someone whos been here less than a month and you have, ladies and gentleman, a full blown knowitall sheep straight from the BBS.
Does woolprop scare you little one? aww *pets hitch*


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: kuronue on 2007 April 09, 22:55:24
Good god, I feel like there's some sort of conspiracy.

You guys ARE still talking about Sims 2, right? "Celebration" isn't some sort of KGB code, is it? "Registry" has nothing to do with Al Queda, right?!


..hehe.. Queda... aqueduct... yes, that's totally what I meant, spellcheck


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: angelyne on 2007 April 10, 00:59:19
I installed what I believe is an european version of Celebration and it changed a bunch of my sims' name.  Blah.  I am going to uinstall and restore from backup and hope that fixes it.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 10, 20:36:16
You basically getting the same thing we did Angelyne.

If you follow the link to the bbs, and go through those steps, it should fix everything for you.
If not then uninstall.

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: angelyne on 2007 April 10, 22:35:39
I've uninstalled for now.  Didn't seem that exciting to me anyway.  Maybe I'll install it again at a later date.  Do you find it worth the effort?

PS.  Changing first names is a VeryBadThingTM

 


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Simlover on 2007 April 11, 01:29:28
Once is was installed Angelyne you should have been able to put your backed up neighbourhoods over the top of the screwed ones and had things back to normal name wise.  Quite frankly for what was in th pack and the amount of grief it caused I don't think it was really worth it.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Skadi on 2007 April 11, 02:19:36
To be honest, it was worth it only cause I create.

I'll probably end up ripping the EA textures and remeshing the dresses and stuff.

I don't think it added any new socials or special behaviour, which I would have loved.
Like something to make the bridesmaids dress the same, or different cake interactions. The furniture is cheap, therefore doesn't give you any reason to use it. I still think Glamour gave you the most, but this is better than Family Fun and the Holiday pack [just cause you can use it anytime]

-Skadi


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: Sibling on 2007 April 11, 06:08:28
Yah had same thing happen here and I used the EA Downloader thingy for the stuff pack. I was a little annoyed with the name changes and will prolly have to do a bit of a clean up. But I like that they renamed one of my adult male townies to Diane, I'll prolly leave things as they are until I get irritated enough to do something about it.


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: flowerchile on 2007 April 11, 07:07:30
Thanks for the warning Sinlover ;)

Pity about your game though.. :P


Title: Re: Warning for Aussies buying Celebrations
Post by: angelyne on 2007 April 11, 12:05:11
Once is was installed Angelyne you should have been able to put your backed up neighbourhoods over the top of the screwed ones and had things back to normal name wise.  Quite frankly for what was in th pack and the amount of grief it caused I don't think it was really worth it.

Did that, no go.  The changes aren't part of the neigbourhood file? Very weird.  Uninstalled, restored my backup and it was back to normal.  Maybe the registry fix will take care of it.  When people like Skadi starts producing recolors that are must-have, I'll try it again.  Untill then Maxis can stuff it :)