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Title: Bonehilda
Post by: akmpe on 2012 September 14, 01:57:44
WCIF Information on the Broomhilda Bonehilda files? If an edit is made to how the maid works, would that change her actions as well, or does she have her own set of things that she will and won't do?


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Madame Mim on 2012 September 14, 02:26:39
Speaking of Broomhilda - anybody know any mod to make her harvest the garden?


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: akmpe on 2012 September 14, 08:27:26
Speaking of Broomhilda - anybody know any mod to make her harvest the garden?

That's basically what I'm looking to make her do. That, and a few other things.

Hey, at least she waters the plants, even if she doesn't do anything else to them.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: jezzer on 2012 September 14, 12:44:10
Oh, good.  I had a similar mod that hasn't been updated for 1.38 and stopped working.  Now if I can just get an update for the "No auto cats playing in bathtub" so they'll stop falling off the map when I use a cc bathtub, I'll be a happy camper.
http://www.4shared.com/archive/Zm_9PGuU/NoAutoCatPlayTub.html?refurl=d1url
Try that. I just adjusted the settings for DisallowAutonomous in CatPlayInBathtub_Bathtub. I can set it so that it's not User directed as well.
 

Baaaaaaaa.  Exactly what I needed.  As soon as some Bonehilda tweaks come out, my game will be where I want it.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Painkiller on 2012 September 14, 16:53:22
Hey, at least she waters the plants, even if she doesn't do anything else to them.
That's odd, mine never watered the plants. I even had dried plants for several days and she never approached them. Hmm must be she doesn't have any spare time after playing hopscotch for hours and making drinks she's unable to drink.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: jezzer on 2012 September 14, 17:24:29
My Bonehilda spent her first night setting out Quick Meals over and over and over until all the surfaces were taken because it was getting close to breakfast time and my Sims were going to be hungry.  Then she spent the entire day teaching the dog tricks to the exclusion of everything else, queue-stomping the dog's desperate attempts to eat and use the chew toy because its needs were sliding into the red.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: virgali on 2012 September 14, 19:09:05
My Bonehilda spent her first night setting out Quick Meals over and over and over until all the surfaces were taken because it was getting close to breakfast time and my Sims were going to be hungry.  Then she spent the entire day teaching the dog tricks to the exclusion of everything else, queue-stomping the dog's desperate attempts to eat and use the chew toy because its needs were sliding into the red.

Is this an unmodded Bonehilda? Mine never ever cooks. She does clean and repairs everything right away though.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: morriganrant on 2012 September 14, 20:02:42
I looked in her XML file and apparently she will roam at min 3 units, and at max 10, then it has a little note about anything above 10 seeming to cause issue and her only moving through one room(one door) to find work. So it seems to all depend on where you place her coffin.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Painkiller on 2012 September 14, 20:43:19
Is this an unmodded Bonehilda? Mine never ever cooks. She does clean and repairs everything right away though.
Mine doesn't cook either but I'll bet it's because I always have enough plates of leftovers to feed all the sims dwelling on my lot. I currently have 4 sims and one of them is in the culinary career so the fridge is always full.

Thanks for the infos on her XML morriganrant, her coffin is on the third floor that could explain why she ignores the dried plants in the garden. I'll try putting her coffin in the garden instead.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: witch on 2012 September 14, 20:48:57
I had the coffin in the vamp vault under the garage, she did not go to the house at all. She should really be responsible for the whole lot.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: kissing_toast on 2012 September 14, 20:59:08
Here is an altered Bonehilda XML, I have no clue as to the scope of the "10" in the distance field so I set it to twenty. I don't have time right now to test so leave any comments about it. It says in the XML that anything higher than 10 might cause problems, I can't think of anything that would happen from her traveling to far for work. There is a separate Bonehilda XML that tells her to teleport back to the coffin if she can't find it after three attempts so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm sure this might help while someone more experienced gets out a better Bonehilda mod. When I get the chance I'm going to compare her XML to the real maids, maybe combine them?


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: akmpe on 2012 September 15, 02:19:38
My unmodded (as far as I can tell, though I've modded my maids) Bonehilda is in the front room on the bottom floor (on the foundation), right next to the kitchen. She has never cooked for anyone but herself (why she doesn't have static motives I don't understand), she'll clean most everything (though I think she hasn't picked up some plasma juice boxes in the kitchen, so maybe she just doesn't like the kitchen), and she'll go outside and water as many plants as she can find. She even went all the way up to the third floor to water the potted plants. Apparently, if you have the rock piles on your home lot (the ones from WA that your sims can take a pickaxe to), she will take the time to remove them for you.

I don't really understand her at all.

By 'min 3' does that mean she doesn't do anything in any room less than three rooms/doors from her? That would explain her ignoring my kitchen.

I'll test your mod out, KT.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: jezzer on 2012 September 15, 03:40:12
My Bonehilda doesn't cook, but sets out bowls of cereal and cans of juice all over the damn place, but only if someone is almost to yellow in Hunger.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: virgali on 2012 September 15, 10:34:54
Here is an altered Bonehilda XML, I have no clue as to the scope of the "10" in the distance field so I set it to twenty. I don't have time right now to test so leave any comments about it. It says in the XML that anything higher than 10 might cause problems, I can't think of anything that would happen from her traveling to far for work. There is a separate Bonehilda XML that tells her to teleport back to the coffin if she can't find it after three attempts so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm sure this might help while someone more experienced gets out a better Bonehilda mod. When I get the chance I'm going to compare her XML to the real maids, maybe combine them?

Baaaa KT. My Bonehilda coffin is placed outside the house. My sims live in a two story house without a basement and she cleans and repairs everything immediately. She's especially useful since my sim don't shoo her away when they use the bathroom and toilet when she's in the same room. It doesn't matter how hungry my sims are, she never cooks nor put out plates of food for them. The family doesn't have any pets nor babies and toddlers so I haven't experienced the cuddle and train to death annoyances.

If you'd be so kind or anybody else willing to do it for that matter, here's how I think she ought to be tweaked.
1. Let her keep on taking care of the pets and little ones but tone it down as not to love 'em to death
2. She waters the plants only when they actually need watering
3. She cooks only when the sim's hunger bar is really low
4. She doesn't cook if there are leftovers in the fridge
5. She cleans the fishing tanks and feeds the fish
6. She cleans terrariums and bird cages and feeds the pets
7. She does the laundry

I don't have any laundry items in the household so I'm going by complaints posted over at MTS. In many, many ways Bonehilda is a lot more useful than the butler and she takes less space. I think with a few tweaks she'll be the perfect housekeeper. So far, I'm very pleased with her myself. Personally I don't need her to water my plants since I always install sprinklers for my gardeners.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Madame Mim on 2012 September 15, 11:20:44
Mine does laundry.

Oh, and baaaa to Inge for the apple link, thanks.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: morriganrant on 2012 September 15, 20:22:12
By 'min 3' does that mean she doesn't do anything in any room less than three rooms/doors from her? That would explain her ignoring my kitchen.

No definitely not min 3 doors. I think they mean three units, like three squares.

Mine does laundry, and cleans the terrariums.

Edit: Just realized I haven't seen her actually use the machines, just collect the clothes and put them in the hamper, though there are a few rooms she won't collect from. I haven't seen mine cook either, though she's one room from there, she mostly spends her time warming her boney butt at the fireplace and of course pampering the cat.

Perhaps Witch should move this into it's own Bonehilda topic?


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Starwind on 2012 September 15, 21:14:53
In my game Bonehilda will not garden at all, tries to kills my dog through training to death, will not do laundry. The good things (or not so bad): She only puts out quick meals just before and just after the brats have school, does some minor maintenence (fixes stuffed toilets), and generally picks up the entire house, and the game considers her nanny enough that the adult sims can leave the toddlers alone in the house with her. Her casket is buried in the basement next to the laundry machines.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: virgali on 2012 September 15, 22:18:37
Well I tested the laundry thing with another household and she won't do the laundry. She also still doesn't "cook".


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Skadi on 2012 September 16, 21:21:17
My Bonehilda waters the indoor plant pots, cleans the kitchen and tidies up. She also goes into the Dark_Trepie's lair and rocks out on the dj booth.

(http://i.imgur.com/gtEns.jpg)

I have no pets or babies, so I haven't seen the "love to death" interactions.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: ihartsnape on 2012 September 16, 23:35:50
I thought my Bonehilda was doing laundry when I saw her collecting clothes left on the lot by my skinny dipping sims. Apparently she was just playing a prank on them, though, because I got a message once my sims got out of the hot tub about it.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Kasmira on 2012 September 17, 20:57:08
That photo of Bonehilda in the DJ booth is amazingly funny.   ;D

I'm glad that there is a topic here about Bonehilda.  I was starting to think she was pretty amazing, but then she started waking the toddler up to tickle him...  and the snuggle to infinity thing is a little weird.  Then she kept getting out orange juice containers and cereal bowls and bread and jam, only to put them away so that my sims would eat them as leftovers from the fridge.  She has never cooked, although I did catch her scarfing down a frozen dinner at the table one day.  Perhaps she has too much 'nanny' coding and, just like the TS2 old nannies, would attempt to cook only to leave it on the counter to spoil.  I, honestly, don't want an NPC to cook for my sims.  I cannot use a butler for that reason, as I normally run vampires or the like...  the butlers simply spend money left and right to try to feed people who don't eat.  My Bonehilda waters the plants, except for the ones I put behind a locked gate to keep the darn zombies from eating them.  I haven't run a home with laundry yet.  I have her coffin in the detached garage and she cleans the entire three story home and, aside from her harassing the babies / toddlers, she seems pretty helpful. 

Perhaps if someone could completely remove any instance of hunger from her code so she stops trying to eat and fix the snuggle / train to infinity issue, she'd be worth a whole lot more.  :)


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Madame Mim on 2012 September 20, 04:21:19
This being the closest thing we have to a Supernatural dis/appreciation thread - I've just seen the protection dealio in action. Tobias Tinklewings (he's a fairy, what can I say?) played the hothead trick on a townie at the library and the fiery result was less than pleasant. His significant other had earlier offered to protect him and was asleep at home, got up and ran across three blocks with the fire moodlet to come an rescue him (or, at least, stand screaming 'fire' like everybody else).


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: blablamana on 2012 September 20, 11:54:10
I would like for Bonehilda to leave my pets alone. All she does, despite dirty dishes or children to be fed, is go after the dogs and try to pet them. Which they don't like, but she keeps trying and trying and my dogs will get hungry, need to chew etc. It isn't a mod that causes this weird behaviour as I tested it in a Vanilla game. Still the same issue.. Anyone got any ideas what to do about it?


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: jezzer on 2012 September 20, 14:52:59
Anyone got any ideas what to do about it?

Bitchslap people at EA until they start beta-testing EPs before release?


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Aurora on 2012 September 20, 15:47:01
My Bonehilda (from household, not public lot) works in shop:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/15rxern.jpg)


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Painkiller on 2012 September 20, 16:47:37
^ That's one of Twallan's mods needing an update. The Register I guess. It's funny though, I would keep it as it is.

Here's my Bonehilda's favorite activity:
(http://i45.tinypic.com/34t1p3b.jpg)
I couldn't take it anymore, sold the hopscotch. BTW, you can see the dried plants in the back.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: SimLife on 2012 September 20, 18:51:31
My Bonehilda spends her time brushing her teeth, and gussying up in front of the mirror. But when there's something to clean, she does her job.

Also one time, I saw her training a stray dog. I felt sorry for that dog, not only was he homeless and hungry, but also being trained to death by a skeleton lady.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Rubyelf on 2012 September 21, 10:41:01
My Bonehilda spends every waking moment heckling my sims cat, every second she wants to pat it.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Cheese Fiend on 2012 September 21, 12:42:29
Mine spends most of the day mourning at the graves in the back garden.  She tidies, doesn't garden, doesn't cook and doesn't do laundry (or even pick up the stinking piles of clothes).  I tried placing her coffin next to the washing machine then next to the garden plants, it made no difference.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: moar boobs on 2012 September 22, 02:58:12
All the Bonehilda posts got me wanting to try supernatural, so I did. My Bonehilda spends most of the day trying to pet the cat, and of course the cat seems to hate her.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Giroro on 2012 September 22, 08:01:05
I can't for the life of me figure out what's up with her. She was fine at first, just cleaning things and feeding the pets. But then she started going back and forth between doing two things: training the family dog to death, or setting out bowls of food only to put them back into the fridge a few seconds later. I finally dismissed her for a while, then thought I'd try her again. She seems to be doing the right things now. Maybe she needs a break sometimes? She's a skeleton for crying out Pete's sake. I refuse to believe that she has feelings and needs time to herself to contemplate her skeletal remains.

I tried TS2 a while back, and she reminds me of an eff'd version of the kitchen server in the dorms.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: gamegame on 2012 October 07, 16:16:35
Is it an intended feature to have multiple Bonehildas? I brought and activated three of them, seems fine on the surface.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Druscylla on 2012 October 31, 01:32:56
I haven't tried having more than 1 Bonehilda - the one is horrid enough. At first mine cleaned the toilet on the lowest level but now she only does 2 things - attempt to bother the cats that hate her and putting bowl after bowl of the brain mush all over the house. My sim child was doing her homework and was slightly hungry and next thing I knew 5 bowls of brain mush were set our on the table and counters. I dismissed her to her coffin because she won't stop pestering the cats.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: iHateyou on 2012 October 31, 05:28:35
Mine won't come out of her closet half the time so I have to delete it and buy a new one to fix it.


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Rockerduck on 2012 November 24, 19:35:18
Yup, Bonehilda is certainly special.

Some of my Bonehildas decided to bother the pets all day, while others somehow managed to ignore their temptations and were actually useful around the house. I had a look at her XML to figure out what causes this varying behaviour but I honestly have no idea. Some just were better than others and did the gardening or stopped burglars. Most are useless, though, and harass the pets all day. *shrugs*


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: virgali on 2012 December 04, 21:10:22
Just checking in to know about the Bonehilda status. I still haven't tried KT's mod but I've been searching around and couldn't find any better mods for the bony maid. Are people still interested in modding or having Bonehilda modded in any particular way?


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: Painkiller on 2012 December 04, 22:01:08
Are people still interested in modding or having Bonehilda modded in any particular way?
I do. Ideal mod would be something that would make her do her job, always. That would include laundry, repairs and watering the plants. No pets/kids harassing and no goofing around (or make it extremely rare, not like all her spare time is spent hopscotching or making cocktails.).


Title: Re: Bonehilda
Post by: virgali on 2012 December 04, 22:34:30
I got my personal wish list on the first page. I did find several mods that prevent all sims or either sims with certain traits to not be scared by her. I also found a thread where someone attempted to make a mod for her her to always do the laundry but that failed miserably. The test version was removed so I'm not entirely sure what the problem was. Apparently there's advertisement to Bonehilda to interact with the clothing piles but the hampers are blocked.