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Awesomeware => AwesomeMod! => Topic started by: Jessy MD on 2009 August 13, 08:13:00



Title: Is this for real?
Post by: Jessy MD on 2009 August 13, 08:13:00
I downloaded the Awesome Mod about a week ago. Now all of a sudden, scence the 11th, this has been poping up:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/melissashannan/WTF.jpg)

Do I really need to redownload it for it to work? And if I do, will my saved games be ok, or will I loose everything?
Also, is the Awesome Mod like a trial version or something?


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: keirra on 2009 August 13, 08:14:44
Your computer is about to explode! Step away from the keyboard.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Greyform on 2009 August 13, 08:17:00
Here's how it is:

There have been too many bug reports by people who are using older, buggier versions of AwesomeMod. It's essentially a beta right now, so there are frequent updates. The expiration exists so that people will not report old bugs simply because they didn't bother downloading the most recent version.

Really, the mod is updated at least daily, and often several times a night. If you actually see an expiration notice, you have a really old version. So, yes, download the mod again. And, no, your saves won't be lost.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: chaos on 2009 August 13, 08:17:14
It means you need to download and use the most recent version of AwesomeMod. Duh!


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Mirelly on 2009 August 13, 08:28:34
Good grief!


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Gastfyr on 2009 August 13, 08:46:16
will my saved games be ok, or will I loose everything?
Your save games will be utterly and completely distroyed.  I know this because I download the updated versions of Awesomemod at least once a day, and each time my save games are vaporized so I have to start all over again.
...

 ::)


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Tever on 2009 August 13, 09:07:37
This is a rare condition that manifests when you use Awesomemod for too long. In order to get rid of it, you have to light four black candles and ask the Goddess of Expiration Dates to drive the demons from your computer.

Or, you know, you could just start checking the download topic every couple hoursdays for updates.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Larku on 2009 August 13, 09:42:44
Instead of being Cryptic, Yes all you have to do is update for things to work again.
It's as simple as that.

Some people tend to tease you here, So don't get offended easy.  ;)


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: disturbia on 2009 August 13, 10:29:06
I updated mine, now my game is unplayable. The only change made was awesomemod. Had to reinstall TS3, have a new town but still CTD after you give a sim a command.


So some of those posts might actually be true short of blowing up :P

17 hours later game still unplayable, Saved sims same deal first command CTD. :(

Game version 1.4.6.00107/awesomemod updater/ using awesomemod/indiemod combo like b4 the update.

Also use 3 booter and enablescripterror mod. Don't know what else to do.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 13, 10:30:07
17 hours later game still unplayable, Saved sims same deal first command CTD. :(
Send me a save and I will look at it. That is not normal and I have never encountered this.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: poi_boi on 2009 August 13, 10:58:04
Disturbia try removing the enablescripterror mod.
I could be wrong but i think both awesome and enablescripterror are core mods.
I don't know enough about awesome to know if it also modifies SimsIFace.dll but if it does then that would be the problem.
Running 2 core mods tends to do bad things.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: chaos on 2009 August 13, 11:04:26
OMFG, the enablescripterror package is not a core mod. It does exactly what its name implies - it enables scripting errors, for trouble-shooting purposes, but is not necessary for non-modders to even have in their game. It seems that either your game likes it or doesn't like it. Yes, it's common sense to remove it if you have it installed, and your game suddenly starts crashing, but NOT because it's a core mod. It isn't.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: poi_boi on 2009 August 13, 11:08:38
Ok I must have missread "This is a core mod that is incompatible with any other core mod which modifies SimsIFace.dll" on Rick's post.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Yecats on 2009 August 13, 11:17:28
I also have been having a semi-related issue regarding CTD when issuing the first command. 

Trying to click to load a game is just crashing.

I've removed all the CC, updated Awesomemod and deleted the cache files.

Still no workie.



Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: chaos on 2009 August 13, 11:31:03
Ok I must have missread "This is a core mod that is incompatible with any other core mod which modifies SimsIFace.dll" on Rick's post.

The enablescripterror package was originally designed, by Pescado, to be used with AwesomeMod, for beta testing purposes, so it can't possibly be a core mod, and CAN be used with AM. I think that MTS are just trying to cover their asses in case something goes wrong.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: poi_boi on 2009 August 13, 11:37:16
Ah thank you Chaos. I stand corrected and shal return to my lurking position.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 13, 11:40:40
The enablescripterror package was originally designed, by Pescado, to be used with AwesomeMod, for beta testing purposes, so it can't possibly be a core mod, and CAN be used with AM. I think that MTS are just trying to cover their asses in case something goes wrong.
This is incorrect. The enablescripterror package was originally designed by RICK. Because it modifies a lower-level DLL, SimIFace, which AwesomeMod did not and presently does not modify, it is not intrinsically incompatible and both were used to debug issues in the past. However, the version currently in circulation is believed to be the Old Version, pre-1.3, that is reported to cause issues and malfunctions in the post-1.3 game. Because it is a third-party product, we do not support it here. It is possible to update it to 1.3, but this would serve no real purpose as it has been superceded by the Flagrant System Error, and the remaining functionality is only of interest to modders.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: chaos on 2009 August 13, 12:32:13
My mistake, then. I could swear I downloaded it here. *sigh* My memory is not what it used to be.

*is embarrassed

Edit: I'm not even going to try to explain my thought process on this one. It had a strange sort of logic to it that would probably make sense only to me. Let's just say that I suffer from occasional temporary retardation, and leave it at that.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Motoki on 2009 August 13, 14:31:31
This is incorrect. The enablescripterror package was originally designed by RICK. Because it modifies a lower-level DLL, SimIFace, which AwesomeMod did not and presently does not modify, it is not intrinsically incompatible and both were used to debug issues in the past. However, the version currently in circulation is believed to be the Old Version, pre-1.3, that is reported to cause issues and malfunctions in the post-1.3 game. Because it is a third-party product, we do not support it here. It is possible to update it to 1.3, but this would serve no real purpose as it has been superceded by the Flagrant System Error, and the remaining functionality is only of interest to modders.

And yet I continue to see a large number of extremely NON technically inclined people using it in spite of Rick explicitly telling them it is meant for debugging purposes only and not for the average end user.

Which just goes to show that if you put a shiny out there tards will use it even if they don't know what the hell it does or why they are using it. They will get it and use it just because. 'Oh someone posted something. Must download! Mmmmm brains'.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: MzDeb on 2009 August 13, 15:03:53
Besides, the title, "enables crip terror," should tell you that it is dangerous.

Deb, brain-eating zombie tard


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Larku on 2009 August 13, 20:17:40
Yeah. Try removing that file.

I used it and it gave me trouble as well. Once I removed it. Everything went well again.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 13, 20:44:53
And yet I continue to see a large number of extremely NON technically inclined people using it in spite of Rick explicitly telling them it is meant for debugging purposes only and not for the average end user.
Well, in the beginning, it was the only way to get useful debuggable output at all. Eventually, we found better ways around its limitations, and so now we have the Flagrant System Error instead.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Tangie on 2009 August 13, 21:56:34
And Chaos, you are not chrazy. The Enablescripterror package file WAS listed for download in the Am download thread on MATY for awhile. That's where I downloaded it. I haven't used it since the latest patch borked it (although I know it's since been updated).


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Doc Doofus on 2009 August 13, 23:47:03
Go to Demonoid and download the AwesomeMod crack.  It will get rid of that warning.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: cefwyn on 2009 August 13, 23:53:52
Hehe, a crack for a mod, that's rich. As long as you don't enable features that explicitly say EXPERIMENTAL there's no reason not to update.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: Marhis on 2009 August 14, 01:50:40
By the way, a search on the only word "expire" would give you more than enough informations about the issue you felt the need to make a new thread about.

I would not be suprised AT ALL if you also were ready to report bugs about old versions as well, and in new threads too, as well.

Hint?


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 14, 09:51:41
Hehe, a crack for a mod, that's rich. As long as you don't enable features that explicitly say EXPERIMENTAL there's no reason not to update.
If you're enabling experimental features, you DEFINITELY want to update, because experimental features are the ones which get the most updating, likely because experimenting found a fatal bug.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: cefwyn on 2009 August 14, 18:12:15
Hehe, a crack for a mod, that's rich. As long as you don't enable features that explicitly say EXPERIMENTAL there's no reason not to update.
If you're enabling experimental features, you DEFINITELY want to update, because experimental features are the ones which get the most updating, likely because experimenting found a fatal bug.

Hehe, true. I think the wording I meant was more along the lines of if your not using features explicitly tagged as EXPERIMENTAL you may not need to update, but there's no reason not to. Or at least that wording makes a lot more sense.

EDIT: Though there have been some features which, while marked EXPERIMENTAL, may have not worked perfectly but later updates have made them more broken before another release fixed them to be less broken. The storymode is a good example of it. If you find a version that works fine, you may not want to update at the risk of certain fixes causing other things to break, but since it's beta if your using experimental features you really should have to update so as to find and report additional bugs.


Title: Re: Is this for real?
Post by: wizard_merlin on 2009 August 14, 23:01:23
This is incorrect. The enablescripterror package was originally designed by RICK. Because it modifies a lower-level DLL, SimIFace, which AwesomeMod did not and presently does not modify, it is not intrinsically incompatible and both were used to debug issues in the past. However, the version currently in circulation is believed to be the Old Version, pre-1.3, that is reported to cause issues and malfunctions in the post-1.3 game. Because it is a third-party product, we do not support it here. It is possible to update it to 1.3, but this would serve no real purpose as it has been superceded by the Flagrant System Error, and the remaining functionality is only of interest to modders.

And yet I continue to see a large number of extremely NON technically inclined people using it in spite of Rick explicitly telling them it is meant for debugging purposes only and not for the average end user.

Which just goes to show that if you put a shiny out there tards will use it even if they don't know what the hell it does or why they are using it. They will get it and use it just because. 'Oh someone posted something. Must download! Mmmmm brains'.

What else is new?  Kind of like the million and one posts asking about the expiry dates on AM, or why the latest AM version crashes their unpatched games, etc.