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Title: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: SenkoAu on 2009 July 31, 03:00:51
As indicated in the title this isn't the crash to desktop that happens in the initial loading screen I can get to the main menu fine.

I don't have patch 1.3 installed (because of the problems I've heard about it) if that makes a difference.

My game was working fine last night when I saved and quit. This morning I installed the new version of awsomemod (because I kept getting notifications that if I didn't it would stop working tommorow). Now whenever I try to play the game with the mod installed it crashes to desktop when I hit the play button for my game, if I remove awsomemod the game works fine. Is there anywhere I can get ahold of a working version of the previous build that won't stop working tommorow?


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: cassblonde on 2009 July 31, 03:05:31
You can't run newest AM without patching as it is patch compatible - this has been covered extensively in the new bug thread.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: Kyna on 2009 July 31, 03:11:33
You are running the Unholy Hybrid: an unpatched game with patch-compatible AM. Pescado has stated that we can do this if we want, but that this configuration is unsupported - i.e. there's no point in reporting problems as Pescado isn't going to fix them.

There is only one current version of AM (the patch compatible one), Pescado isn't going to maintain two versions.


Title: What i Do?
Post by: gustacarmoraes on 2009 July 31, 03:18:25
My am doesn't work.
I download this latest update 07/30 and the game does not enter more.
Even when loading screen, the game quits when i start my city.
And in the ancient version of AM, I don't had more Bosses.

What I do now?


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: SenkoAu on 2009 July 31, 03:30:49
I gathered that, what I wanted to know was where I could get an older version of the patch as I'd updated before realizing the problems this would cause but don't want to install the glitchy patch from EA.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: minonda on 2009 July 31, 03:31:29
You can't run newest AM without patching as it is patch compatible - this has been covered extensively in the new bug thread.

I installed the patch this morning and then installed the newest awesome mod, and I am having the same problem. The game crashes when I click the Play button. I uninstalled the mod and the game played fine. Don't know what to do.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: minonda on 2009 July 31, 03:33:03
You are running the Unholy Hybrid: an unpatched game with patch-compatible AM. Pescado has stated that we can do this if we want, but that this configuration is unsupported - i.e. there's no point in reporting problems as Pescado isn't going to fix them.

There is only one current version of AM (the patch compatible one), Pescado isn't going to maintain two versions.

My experience, described in a post above, disproves what you are saying.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: SenkoAu on 2009 July 31, 04:35:32
I guess I'll just patch and hope fr the best then


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: jriggs on 2009 July 31, 04:41:30
Okay, the new "crash at play" is another strange Heisenbug. The workaround for this seems to be to start a game once with the CD in place, or at least, that's how it went away when I was trying to fin out.

I had the CTD while trying to play a save.  I have the disk in the drive but I am running Awesome with no-cd enabled. (I just forgot to take it out of the tray) and I still had to test different versions of configurations to get it to work. I am still not sure what is making it work but it is.  Everything is the same so it reminds me of the first few builds of Awesome where you just had to keep trying sometimes.  By the time it was working I had Awesome in as well as Indie (mod not core) and a few other random XML's.  In the end I think that I left out the script enabler but I think it worked once while it was in as well.  Like I said, I just kept trying and it just worked finally.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: SenkoAu on 2009 July 31, 05:39:37
Removing the enablescripterror mod got it working for me as well.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: gustacarmoraes on 2009 July 31, 06:30:53
Okay, the new "crash at play" is another strange Heisenbug. The workaround for this seems to be to start a game once with the CD in place, or at least, that's how it went away when I was trying to fin out.


Pescado, this new bug of game does not start more in some PCs will be fixed in next update?
It would be possible to correct the bug "no boss in the careers"? No more career has boss, even when i disable the option "valid boss" in awesome mod.  :o


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: keirra on 2009 July 31, 06:44:12
Okay, the new "crash at play" is another strange Heisenbug. The workaround for this seems to be to start a game once with the CD in place, or at least, that's how it went away when I was trying to fin out.


Pescado, this new bug of game does not start more in some PCs will be fixed in next update?
It would be possible to correct the bug "no boss in the careers"? No more career has boss, even when i disable the option "valid boss" in awesome mod.
  :o

Stop using bold when posting. It doesn't get your post read any quicker and is very annoying.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Motoki on 2009 July 31, 16:17:31
Out of curiousity why are so many people using that script error thing? It's meant as a debug tool and those messages won't mean anything to 99% of the people playing the game.

Is this some sort of BBistic ZOMG I will never use that hair but I just have to have it just because thing?


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: cassblonde on 2009 July 31, 16:22:20
Out of curiosity why are so many people using that script error thing?

I had it in for a long time because it was the only way to stop the boot/voodoo crash. I took it out when I installed the newest AM and EA patch because I had seen others say that helped them with problems. I didn't have any problems, it was a preemptive piece of voodoo on my part. I now use 3booter and will continue to do so as when it does the voodoo crash 3booter takes care of it.

Overall though I have had no trouble with the game post EA patch with the compatible AM. I'm glad I'm not having trouble.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: ciane on 2009 July 31, 19:36:02
Yeah, I tried the other methods to get the game to load after updating with the 1.3 patch and newest AM, though I only deleted the scriptcache. I put the CD back in the drive and kept trying to load, but nothing worked until I grabbed the latest scripterror mod by Rick.
Voodoo.
I haven't even attempted to play any old games. I just started out fresh again.
The only thing that is really annoying right now is that I often cannot cross out the house icon when they are returning home. I hate waiting for them to stroll into whatever out-of-the-way corner they chose before I can tell them "go here" and then "eat" or "shower," etc. I am sure that was an EA "fix" because I always crossed out the house icon before. Oh well.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: jriggs on 2009 July 31, 23:30:30
Out of curiousity why are so many people using that script error thing? It's meant as a debug tool and those messages won't mean anything to 99% of the people playing the game.

Is this some sort of BBistic ZOMG I will never use that hair but I just have to have it just because thing?
You either need enablescripTERROR.package, or not. There's no way to tell what group you belong to.
If you don't have it but need it -- crash.
If you have it but don't need it -- crash.

Yep.  I was in the need it camp.  Guess I am in the don't now.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: nanacake on 2009 August 01, 00:45:45
I really think it's a matter of beating your game into submissions more. I left the script enabler in there and taught it to like it! Running the game with just awesomemod alone with no other mods worked like sticking the cd for just one go YMMV.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: SenkoAu on 2009 August 01, 01:06:18
Why are you using go home anyway? I always just tell my sim to do something there when I want them to go home e.g. make food, read a book, go here etc and then they find the quickest route home and do what I tell them.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 01, 01:16:26
Pescado, this new bug of game does not start more in some PCs will be fixed in next update?
Well, I can't reliably reproduce this bug, so there's no way to find exactly what causes it at this time.

It would be possible to correct the bug "no boss in the careers"? No more career has boss, even when i disable the option "valid boss" in awesome mod.  :o
This isn't a bug, this is a result of fixing a bug which was causing spam bosses to be erroneously retained and generated. If you really WANTED this for some reason, an option exists to re-emulate this bug.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: gustacarmoraes on 2009 August 01, 01:32:17
Pescado, this new bug of game does not start more in some PCs will be fixed in next update?
Well, I can't reliably reproduce this bug, so there's no way to find exactly what causes it at this time.

It would be possible to correct the bug "no boss in the careers"? No more career has boss, even when i disable the option "valid boss" in awesome mod.  :o
This isn't a bug, this is a result of fixing a bug which was causing spam bosses to be erroneously retained and generated. If you really WANTED this for some reason, an option exists to re-emulate this bug.




Pescado , even putting this option that you said to turn on spam, my game continues without bosses. What can be this?
Furthermore, i believe that it is a bug, because some careers requiring a boss is hereby simply without them. The normal is not to have bosses??


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Ailias on 2009 August 01, 07:44:35
Pescado, for what did you created that darned "use the latest build, moroon" check?
I do not want to update awesome mod! I want to use the old one that works in my game!


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: Motoki on 2009 August 01, 07:49:00
Pescado, for what did you created that darned "use the latest build, moroon" check?
I do not want to update awesome mod! I want to use the old one that works in my game!

ENOUGH of this! It's been talked about and debated in multiple threads over and over ad nauseum.

It's his mod so it goes by his rules. Use it or lose it!


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 01, 07:58:51
Pescado , even putting this option that you said to turn on spam, my game continues without bosses. What can be this?
Furthermore, i believe that it is a bug, because some careers requiring a boss is hereby simply without them. The normal is not to have bosses??
Insufficient information. First, check to make sure your job actually DOES have a required boss: See if it lists "Boss" alongside things like "Mood" or Skills. If it doesn't, then there's not normally a required boss to begin with. If this field is not present, you simply don't need one. If you did not emulate the old bug, then you won't be assigned one. If you DO enable that option, one will be assigned if a valid candidate exists. The game will not randomly spam dozens of NPCs to produce one, though.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Ailias on 2009 August 01, 11:36:56
EA Patch is reported to be very borked up I do not want to install it until they make it good.
I want to use the awesome, I love awesome mod, I cannot play without it, but I have a bit older working build that cannot be used anymore

Motoki, I'm respectful to you, so please do not offend me, better tell me what to do?


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Enelen on 2009 August 01, 11:54:47
EA Patch is reported to be very borked up I do not want to install it until they make it good.
I want to use the awesome, I love awesome mod, I cannot play without it, but I have a bit older working build that cannot be used anymore

Motoki, I'm respectful to you, so please do not offend me, better tell me what to do?

Set your system time back some days, to the time the mod you are using came out. Or hack the AM into submission.

EA patches will all be borked up, the 1.4, 1.5 and the 15.6, too. AM already fixed everything (at least in my game) that the patch broke.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Ailias on 2009 August 01, 12:06:26
I have a little hope, but I will try to unset time first


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Audrey on 2009 August 01, 13:25:28
Ailias

I have an old (before the first EA patch came out) Awesome mod which I can e-mail you.  PM me if you want it.  I have not patched my game at all. 

Some people on this site are so *helpful* and *friendly* - not.   


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Mootilda on 2009 August 01, 16:43:31
I have an old (before the first EA patch came out) Awesome mod which I can e-mail you.  PM me if you want it.  I have not patched my game at all.  

Some people on this site are so *helpful* and *friendly* - not.    

Unless you hacked your old version to remove the expiry date check, this is not helpful either; your older version of the mod will still have the timebomb.

Setting the date on your computer back is probably the simplest solution.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: Motoki on 2009 August 01, 17:20:35
EA Patch is reported to be very borked up I do not want to install it until they make it good.

Based on what? Hearsay?

Plenty of people have patched successfully but human nature being what it is the ones who have not are making much more noise than the ones who have.

A lot of the loudest noise is coming from the Exchange, MTS and TSR whose average users are quite frankly not the most savvy to begin with. And lord knows many in this community love an excuse to kermitflail.

Why don't you just try it? You won't lose you save games. Worst that can happen is you have to reinstall and just apply the first patch. Eh.

If you have troubles with it you can always ask around for a solution.

I swear all this hysteria over the patch is scaring off people from even trying to apply the damned thing when they don't even know if they'll have problems, they just think they will because they read a bunch of other people going on about it so.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Audrey on 2009 August 03, 08:14:55
I have an old (before the first EA patch came out) Awesome mod which I can e-mail you.  PM me if you want it.  I have not patched my game at all.  

Some people on this site are so *helpful* and *friendly* - not.    

Unless you hacked your old version to remove the expiry date check, this is not helpful either; your older version of the mod will still have the timebomb.

Setting the date on your computer back is probably the simplest solution.

I wouldn't know how to hack if my life depended on it.  My awesomemod still seems to be working perfectly, go figure. The mod I use most frequently - editsim in CAS is working fine.



Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Figwit on 2009 August 03, 12:23:15
I have patched two computers - a desktop and a laptop  - and have added the updated AM to both.  I have had no trouble at all.  I'm not trying to sound smug or be a smarty pants because there was really nothing to it.  I did not remove any saved games or cc or do anything special.  It just worked.  I'm speaking as a member of the silent majority and hopefully giving assurance that the patch is ok. :D


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Simmerqueen on 2009 August 03, 15:02:59
My game is fine too - patch + latest Awesome = great game (insofar as is possible right now).    ;)  Seriously, I have had zero issues with either one and removed nothing either before patching/adding latest AM.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: rissajewel on 2009 August 04, 08:15:35
EA Patch is reported to be very borked up I do not want to install it until they make it good.

Based on what? Hearsay?

Plenty of people have patched successfully but human nature being what it is the ones who have not are making much more noise than the ones who have.

A lot of the loudest noise is coming from the Exchange, MTS and TSR whose average users are quite frankly not the most savvy to begin with. And lord knows many in this community love an excuse to kermitflail.

Why don't you just try it? You won't lose you save games. Worst that can happen is you have to reinstall and just apply the first patch. Eh.

If you have troubles with it you can always ask around for a solution.

I swear all this hysteria over the patch is scaring off people from even trying to apply the damned thing when they don't even know if they'll have problems, they just think they will because they read a bunch of other people going on about it so.





 ??? I don't really believe this is  true Awesome mode crashed my game (I now know because of reading the posts) that it is only compadible with the update (did not know the before hand so......) Anyway now that I know this I can move on to my problem........ Can you explain why my update failes at the end and won't install in game ???  any help would be great  ;D
I tried as I said ,many times to no avail to update my game.......


Holding my head and winching for your bashing ;D

Thanks


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: coconnor on 2009 August 04, 08:28:51
??? I don't really believe this is  true Awesome mode crashed my game (I now know because of reading the posts) that it is only compadible with the update (did not know the before hand so......) Anyway now that I know this I can move on to my problem........ Can you explain why my update failes at the end and won't install in game ???  any help would be great  ;D
I tried as I said ,many times to no avail to update my game.......

Holding my head and winching for your bashing ;D

Thanks

Try following the instructions in Motoki's post, here http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16229.0.html (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16229.0.html)


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: Larku on 2009 August 04, 08:32:29
Instead of making a Thread on it.
and Since the title does say New build of awesome mod causes my game to crash to desktop.

I Just got the new build moments ago.
I try to launch the game, It does the half loads and craps out.
So I go get the Script error thing from the download thread.
I thought that helped cause I got into the game more.... Well.

Right as I click the save to play it crashes again.

Has this been reported yet and is there a fix?


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: coconnor on 2009 August 04, 08:39:50
Instead of making a Thread on it.
and Since the title does say New build of awesome mod causes my game to crash to desktop.
I Just got the new build moments ago.
I try to launch the game, It does the half loads and craps out.
So I go get the Script error thing from the download thread.
I thought that helped cause I got into the game more.... Well.
Right as I click the save to play it crashes again.
Has this been reported yet and is there a fix?
Take the "enablescripterror" package out and try the 3-booter.  That is the program that just keeps restarting the game, which hopefully will make it work.  I am using this routinely now and having no problems launching the game.  The other is more for programmers to see what is happening and does not affect launching.

And, if that doesn't work, try the suggestions here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16229.0.html (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16229.0.html)


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: Larku on 2009 August 04, 08:54:37
Instead of making a Thread on it.
and Since the title does say New build of awesome mod causes my game to crash to desktop.
I Just got the new build moments ago.
I try to launch the game, It does the half loads and craps out.
So I go get the Script error thing from the download thread.
I thought that helped cause I got into the game more.... Well.
Right as I click the save to play it crashes again.
Has this been reported yet and is there a fix?
Take the "enablescripterror" package out and try the 3-booter.  That is the program that just keeps restarting the game, which hopefully will make it work.  I am using this routinely now and having no problems launching the game.  The other is more for programmers to see what is happening and does not affect launching.

And, if that doesn't work, try the suggestions here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16229.0.html (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16229.0.html)
Thank you!
I had tried everything on that post, I was reading it before You posted here.
When I removed the Scripterror one it started to run again. Joy.

Thank you.


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T REPORT
Post by: Ailias on 2009 August 05, 16:07:21
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Setting the date on your computer back is probably the simplest solution
Thank you, it works, I can use old safe awesome and play with no problems with fun.

Now I have to set it back every week.

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Based on what? Hearsay?

Plenty of people have patched successfully but human nature being what it is the ones who have not are making much more noise than the ones who have.
Info from snootysims.com. I trust this site.


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Why don't you just try it? You won't lose you save games. Worst that can happen is you have to reinstall and just apply the first patch. Eh.

If you have troubles with it you can always ask around for a solution.
I'm sure that patch compartible awesome will crash my game. I'm just SURE. I'm unlucky.



Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: Motoki on 2009 August 05, 17:25:18
Info from snootysims.com. I trust this site.

Snootysims has long been known to posts rumors and unsubstantiated information. What is their hard evidence that the patch is causing problems other than conflicts with various custom content and mods that have not been updated to work with the patch or just plain user error?

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I'm sure that patch compartible awesome will crash my game. I'm just SURE. I'm unlucky.

That's fine. Some people are born with the unlucky trait. :P


Title: Re: New Build of awsome mod causes my game to crash to desktop. NOT THE DON"T RE
Post by: Larku on 2009 August 07, 00:15:57
With snootysims it's mixed on rather information is correct.
Every site has sometimes rumors that are false.

You just have to take everything with a grain of salt. Even with this site.