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Title: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: shannong on 2009 July 09, 06:22:32
I have searched every string I can think of globally across all the forums here, but I can't find mention of something I'm sure I read something before about other people reporting this here. I vaguely recall a reference to "the star people" problem. But damned if I can find it again with any search of this site.

So I just started using ListHomeless to see whether I need to do any manual cleanup (giving them money, trying to force a move in, making sure there are enough empty houses with beds, etc.). But I see only 2 people with a named household ($20,000) and 35-ish people with the household name "NPC" and only $5000. What's the deal with those "NPC" people listed by ListHomeless?  Is it save to nuke them? And how?  I look all over the map and every sim I find out in public is named.

Help a brudda out here with some learnings!


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: PolecatEZ on 2009 July 09, 06:26:18
I have searched every string I can think of globally across all the forums here, but I can't find mention of something I'm sure I read something before about other people reporting this here. I vaguely recall a reference to "the star people" problem. But damned if I can find it again with any search of this site.

So I just started using ListHomeless to see whether I need to do any manual cleanup (giving them money, trying to force a move in, making sure there are enough empty houses with beds, etc.). But I see only 2 people with a named household ($20,000) and 35-ish people with the household name "NPC" and only $5000. What's the deal with those "NPC" people listed by ListHomeless?  Is it save to nuke them? And how?  I look all over the map and every sim I find out in public is named.

Help a brudda out here with some learnings!

Basic stuff.

NPC's are "non-player characters"...maids, firemen, grim reaper, etc.  You can kill them with "destroyallnpcs" (check the help command for exact wording) and the game will simply regenerate fresh ones as needed.


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: chaos on 2009 July 09, 06:27:14
AFAIK, NPCs are maids, mailpeople, newpaper deliverers, repairpeople, repomen, and the like. I also recall reading that the game will create them to use as coworkers for your playable sims. NPCs are not the same as townies AFAICT. I used the console command "destroyalltownies" with debugging enabled, and the NPCs still showed up under "listhomeless."

Edit: ninja'd!


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 July 09, 06:47:09
No, coworkers and their ilk are regular sims both with and without homes. NPCs are the service NPCs.


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: shannong on 2009 July 09, 18:21:11
I am now full of learnings and gratitudes


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: Madame Mim on 2009 July 10, 08:52:43
Also, even if you cheat them NPC households a bucket load of money and create a house they can afford with enough docking ports/beds they will not move in.


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: shannong on 2009 July 10, 15:58:41
Also, even if you cheat them a bucket load of money and create a house they can afford with enough docking ports/beds they will not move in.

They will if you subsequently force them to move into a house they can afford (and which has enough slots for them) by using "runstoryaction Move In Household". You need to have EnableDebugCommands = True for that to work though.  I did it just last night to the one homeless family that was in my game.


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: Kerryee on 2009 July 10, 16:16:11
I think Mim meant that the NPC's can't be moved to houses.


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: shannong on 2009 July 10, 22:08:56
I think Mim meant that the NPC's can't be moved to houses.

Ah, yes that makes sense. Sorry 'bout that ;)


Title: Re: What are the "NPC" households listed when I do ListHomeless?
Post by: Madame Mim on 2009 July 10, 22:49:48
Yes, sorry for not being more clear on that - I did mean that NPC's will not move into houses even though they meet the 'normal' requirements.