Title: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 18, 06:36:16 Okay, here's the crap they DON'T tell you in the shitty reviews written by tards and shills.
First Impressions: 1. LACK OF SECUROM IS TOTAL LIECAKE: Game attempted to phone home and whined about activation when DENIED. YOU CAN HAZ SECUROM! 2. Selection of available CAS things VERY limited compared to TS2. For instance, you CANNOT EVEN BE PROPERLY BALD ANYMORE. See if you can guess how I noticed THAT so fast. 3. Enforced Legacy-playstyle: Switching to a different household forfeits current status. At minimum, all wants and progress towards wants will be lost. 4. Shiftclick very limited compared to TS2. 5. Navigation is an extremely ARGH-inducing experience, reverts back to pre-Manual Navigation annoyance where you have to babysit a sim to its destination before you can tell it what to do there. If you are a Legacy-style player, TS3 MIGHT be better for you. If you are more into having an entire neighborhood of sims to play with...TS3 is categorically insuperior in every way found so far. Continuing Impressions: 1. Sims in TS3 are just not as good-looking at their TS2 equivalents. Yes, they are more detailed. Yes, you can trick them out in ways that you can't really do with TS2 sims. But they're still ugly. And this is coming from someone who *ISN'T* a heavy CC user: I basically use EAxis default skins, EAxis default eyes. But the fact of the matter is, TS3 sims are just ugly. Why? I am not qualified to say. They just ARE. It took very little effort, even for someone with my complete lack of artistic skills, to throw together a sim that looked passably like someone familiar, or at least, wasn't ugly. I have spent an hour fiddling with the damn thing, but nothing I do produces something other than a pudgy, doughy-faced, slopey-foreheaded ape. 2. The neighborhood map has an overwhelming sense of simultaneous clutteredness and claustrophobia. There is an overwhelming number of floating icons, each barely distinguishable from the other. And I like buttons. Is this bad? Well, hard to say. Buttons are good. But they float chaotically without the sense of order that was present in TS2. 3. Build mode: TECHNICALLY, build mode is superior to its predecessors. However, it suffers from this same sense of poor screen utilization, combined with a sense of flightyness. In TS1, everything seemed to fit together well. This sense continued in TS2. In TS3, I have this sense that the thing is simply too fidgety, and the glitz and sparkles obscures the actual FUNCTIONALITY. When you draw out a room, the entire thing appears in a sparkly shower. The effects overwhelm the functionality. As a veteran sims player dating back to TS1, I find the build mode to be confusing and awkward. That should tell you something. Gameplay: Well, I can't say much about it at this point. The overwhelming sense of STUFF I HAVE TO CONFIGURE has kept me from seriously playing the game so far. I've dabbled slightly in the premades, but honestly, the CONTROLS ARE JUST TERRIBLE. I realize they're similar to TS2's in many ways, but let's face it, the controls in unmodified TS2 are ALSO awful. Sims refuse to obey my commands to GO HERE and then DO THAT. At least having to tell them to run there in order to get anywhere isn't quite as critical, but that's again only because everything now moves so SLOWLY. Except the CLOCK. The CLOCK seems to still be moving at the same 60x speed that previous incarnations of the game ran at. In any event, I just find it so overwhelmingly awful that within 30 seconds I'm seized with the urge to go back to TS2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 18, 07:49:17 Okay i just gotta ask this since i've been dying to know since it was announced. I have never seen any kind of answer to this.
How does the kleptomaniac trait work? I mean if you steal everything not nailed down in a sims house do they just walk around peeing themselves and crying about lack of food until they die or do they get new furniture? Naturally since it's Eaxis that made it i'm skeptical about it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 08:02:20 Someone who was at one of the events in the UK that got to play said a sim stole a trash can from a park. I can imagine if they're allowed to steal anything and everything, soon the neighborhood will be empty. I'm going to make a klepto sim anyway to test it out as soon as I get it installed.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tyyppi on 2009 May 18, 08:32:43 Hmm, sounds worse than I thought although SecuROM didn't come as a surprise. Still I'm downloading it because I'm probably crazy or a masochist or both.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 18, 08:35:38 That's exactly why i've wondered about the kleptomaniac trait. If you really can steal anything and it doesn't get replaced the neighbourhood is going to end up very very empty.
Damn the files i was downloading are deleted. Anyone know some files that'll work with those from post #75? I'm missing 10 files. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tigerlilley on 2009 May 18, 11:49:34 THIS IS SO EXCITING
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 18, 12:03:23 Watching other people perpetrate a bit of mischief brings a grin to my face :)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 18, 12:05:44 First Impressions: Is anyone here at MATY surprised? Nope, didn't think so.1. LACK OF SECUROM IS TOTAL LIECAKE: Game attempted to phone home and whined about activation when DENIED. YOU CAN HAZ SECUROM! Quote 2. Selection of available CAS things VERY limited compared to TS2. For instance, you CANNOT EVEN BE PROPERLY BALD ANYMORE. See if you can guess how I noticed THAT so fast. Probably so they can sell us these things in EPs or via the online store. Either that or to support some crappy deal EA made with T$R.Quote 3. Enforced Legacy-playstyle: Switching to a different household forfeits current status. At minimum, all wants and progress towards wants will be lost. This has been the big DO NOT WANT from the community for months, years even, ever since news of this first leaked/was released in early interviews and articles. Every sims site I've visited has raised this point as a major DO NOT WANT. Why did EA not listen?Quote 4. Shiftclick very limited compared to TS2. Yeah, we might start breaking out of the limited parameters they've set for us. This is EA's game dammit, not a sandbox / doll house / story teller / movie maker for the players. EA shall maintain complete control of what players can and cannot do in the game. Even if that means sales suck. EA will just blame the sales suckage on the early release of the pirated copy. Time to put on your tinfoil hats, because I'm wondering if someone in EA's corporate structure didn't authorise the leak to pirates, just to cover their asses if/when the sales suck.Quote 5. Navigation is an extremely ARGH-inducing experience, reverts back to pre-Manual Navigation annoyance where you have to babysit a sim to its destination before you can tell it what to do there. Well, obviously it's gonna suck with pre-awesome suckage. You haven't had time to begin to awesomize it yet. It sounds like it may not be worth the effort.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 18, 13:01:00 I have updated my continuing impressions in first post.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Emma on 2009 May 18, 13:04:32 I am really enjoying the fact that Pescado is playing an unmodded game. LULZ!
Seriously though, I am because by the time I get it, hopefully there will be some 'fixes' available. Yeah, I know...'Death To EMMA'. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 18, 13:15:07 I want to get it, just to watch the train-wreckiness of it. But to play it srsly? No way.
From the way it sounds, it might be a good thing to stick to TS2. Besides, weren't various modders planning to write their "amazingly complex and awesome™ mod I wanted to write all along, but couldn't because there was always another EP around the corner". I'm still hoping to see some really cool mods come out in that vein. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 18, 14:10:32 I'm not impressed at all. The clothes, make-up and hair make me want to gouge out my eyes, the furnishings are in weird places (at least to me); bookcases are in the storage tab. Yes it was easier to move to community lots. But somehow in all of this I am left frantically searching to find the place to take art lessons, and trying to make it to the stadium to watch some sport.
One cute thing: Sims get a happy moodlet from buying new stuff. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 18, 14:14:13 A happy moodlet? Heck does that mean we are going to spam buy things just before a sim goes to work in order to get them premoted? DNW!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 18, 14:17:00 There was a 5 hour happy moodlet from fulfilling a wish, and a 30 minute moodlet for buying new stuff. I am finding skilling excruciatingly slow, and that's with both the genius and bookworm traits.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: X-Phile on 2009 May 18, 14:18:10 Securom on Sims 3 what a suprise. ::)
EA will see shit soon. Or is it tomatoes? This will be very good PR. :D Hopefully I soon will experience the Sims 3 gameplay. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Nightmare on 2009 May 18, 14:34:19 All I have seen on underdark sites is a goddamn promo disk. which is miles away from the real game.
Pes, if you are the one who pirated this. You are doing Securom and his cronies a big favour. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 18, 14:36:58 I believe this is a scene release from RELOADED. I can confirm that the torrents out there are a full working version, not a promo.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 18, 14:52:43 No worries, Skadi. Nightmare is a complete douche who frequents PMBD and never reads.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SimKat on 2009 May 18, 15:00:37 Heres a good laugh
http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?threadID=78b2635e90504268d119761e7f35ee3f&directoryID=225&startRow=1&openItemID=item.225,item.43,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23 Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jelenedra on 2009 May 18, 15:06:45 I know what I'll be doing when I get home tonight. If I don't like it, I can cancel my preorder and keep the cheap as free version. =p
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Nightmare on 2009 May 18, 15:11:37 No worries, Skadi. Nightmare is a complete douche who frequents PMBD and never reads. Congrats to the moron pirate that has released this so early. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SimKat on 2009 May 18, 15:12:26 Yep I already canceled my pre-order,screw them they ain't getting my cash.My CAT! has other ways of dealing with this.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Marhis on 2009 May 18, 15:20:13 You are doing Securom and his cronies a big favour. I don't support piracy (*cough* sorry, but I can't lie), but still I fail to see how the actual demonstration that DRMs can do NOTHING to stop piracy to any extent might support Securom cronies. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 18, 15:20:39 No worries, Skadi. Nightmare is a complete douche who frequents PMBD and never reads. I think it's obvious that Nightmare is a moron, as Nightmoron apparently thinks that SecuROM is a "he". Nightmoron also believes that software can have cronies. Quoting the proof, in case it's deleted: You are doing Securom and his cronies a big favour. BTW, wb Skadi. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jelenedra on 2009 May 18, 15:26:16 Yes, welcome back. (I kept it from earlier post, because knowing my luck, you already had a welcome back thread already and I'd be raking in face by saying something here)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 18, 16:09:07 Ground is rake free Jelly. There is now mumbles that this is not the full release, that it is missing content. I still think it isn't good enough to be worth $89.00.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jelenedra on 2009 May 18, 16:12:59 ORLY??
Interesting.... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 16:19:15 I don't like the camera much in the game. Like if you slightly move your mouse, it moves the camera way too far, so it's hard to take decent pics. And I didn't like the neighborhood. It's way too cluttered and it took me forever to find anything. I finally found the cemetary after looking for it for quite some time, but it's hard to tell residential and community lots apart in the game.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 18, 16:24:22 Even with the lot sorting function it is way to cluttered. So has anyone worked out where you can take art lessons? I went to the gallery, but that was just looky looky.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 16:39:47 I noticed the files are still in .package format, just like TS2. Doesn't this mean it will be easier to mod in the end?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mootilda on 2009 May 18, 16:44:53 .package is just the name that EA decided to use for their files. What matters is the internal format; we've still waiting for Pes or the SimPE team to confirm whether the internal format is moddable.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 18, 16:45:06 Well i redownloaded the game from scratch and got it installed and working 100% now. Gotta say i'm liking it so far. Here's some tid bits.
EAxis sense of fashion SUCKS. Half the clothes look like complete ass (we knew that already though right?). Sever lack of hair style and clothing choices. The color tool kind of makes up for this. Sims look like playdough can't wait for some new skins. Stupid annoying censor that is more blocky than sims 2 somebody please get rid of it. The coloration tool is EPIC and should have been in the sims AGES ago. I can make clothes EXACTLY how i want them and not use the fugly EAxis crap. Insane and Evil traits are halarious. My sim jumped into the pool with her everyday clothes and went to bed in them. She changed into formal wear when she woke up. There's actually a reason to use community lots like the gym you get a buff making skilling faster. Also you can't keep exercising all day your sim gets fatigued and the next day has muscle cramps. I haven't figured out how to swipe stuff yet despite having a want for it. I figured it'd be an option over every item in the game but no. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 18, 16:48:20 No worries, Skadi. Nightmare is a complete douche who frequents PMBD and never reads. Congrats to the moron pirate that has released this so early. Also, game version is 1.0.615.00107. Exactly what proof do you have that this is Alpha? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 18, 16:56:23 I've watched some gameplay videos on youtube, and I gotta say I really like what I've seen. I really think I'm going to enjoy playing it. Even if it doesn't replace TS2 forever, it still looks like fun for a while.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 18, 17:19:30 .package is just the name that EA decided to use for their files. What matters is the internal format; we've still waiting for Pes or the SimPE team to confirm whether the internal format is moddable. The internal formats are somewhat inscrutable. I cannot find anything comprehensible inside the script package, as they appear to utilize a nonstandard compression or encryption that is unlike the other files. There are also very few of them, meaning if they are even susceptible to overrides, you will very likely be limited to only a single modder, as the files are almost certainly giant blobs and therefore will likely not be responsive to selective overriding. You are going to be stuck with either EAxis, or a specific singular modder's vision at any given time, most likely. No more TS2 mix-and-matchness.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 18, 17:24:13 I find myself morbidly curious. In current tight economic times, I'd definitely like first-hand experience before I shell out the bucks. Guess my computer will be busy tonight.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mootilda on 2009 May 18, 17:25:11 The internal formats are somewhat inscrutable. I cannot find anything comprehensible inside the script package, as they appear to utilize a nonstandard compression or encryption that is unlike the other files. There are also very few of them, meaning if they are even susceptible to overrides, you will very likely be limited to only a single modder, as the files are almost certainly giant blobs and therefore will likely not be responsive to selective overriding. You are going to be stuck with either EAxis, or a specific singular modder's vision at any given time, most likely. No more TS2 mix-and-matchness. That's bad news. I hope that they are just compressed, and that we manage to find the decompression algorithm. Almost every piece of CC that I use is to mod behavior, rather than to add objects or decorations or clothing. However, if I was just stuck using your mods, that wouldn't be a complete disaster. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 17:36:36 There are also very few of them, meaning if they are even susceptible to overrides, you will very likely be limited to only a single modder, as the files are almost certainly giant blobs and therefore will likely not be responsive to selective overriding. You are going to be stuck with either EAxis, or a specific singular modder's vision at any given time, most likely. No more TS2 mix-and-matchness. That's what I was afraid of. But everytime I'd say something about that on any sims forum, I'd get the standard "don't worry about it, the modders will figure it out", etc. I think EA purposely made TS3 like this so they can sell us their crap from the Sims 3 Store. If we had the amount of cc as there is for TS2, they wouldn't sell as much. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 18, 17:37:47 Looking at the files, it is probably quite easy to do the Squinge type of hack to a single object/interaction at a time - altering things like the advertising and autonomy, and how it raises the room score etc. Those details are kept in xml files that are easy to decode and edit, and are easier than the old pie menu way.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 18, 17:44:21 I'm with the moo. If I had to choose between modders, it would be Pescado all the way.
I have much faith in y'all. Quote There is now mumbles that this is not the full release, that it is missing content. That would be cool if it was true... But base games usually don't come with much. Remember, they want you to "buy" their store crap plus expansion packs. I'm sure we will all definitely "buy" everything that comes out, won't we, pirate cats? ;)Since recolors are now pretty much obsolete, I hope that meshes can be brought in. I get so bored with maxis clothes and hair, even with unlimited colors. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 17:45:13 I just hope there's a way to disable the blur soon. I find it very obnoxious and it seems way bigger than the TS2 blur.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 18, 17:51:26 Looking at the files, it is probably quite easy to do the Squinge type of hack to a single object/interaction at a time - altering things like the advertising and autonomy, and how it raises the room score etc. Those details are kept in xml files that are easy to decode and edit, and are easier than the old pie menu way. Yeah, but that's only surface-level obnoxiousness. The truth is TS3 is surprisingly light on the surface-level obnoxious behavior, perhaps because you ONLY REALLY GET TO PLAY ONE FAMBLY, and therefore, it becomes rather irrelevant what everyone else is doing. While it would easily be trivially possible to wipe out a particularly obnoxious action, this really does nothing to resolve, say, stupid behaviors associated with it a specific action that is otherwise good, such as the annoying navigational queue stomping, or otherwise simply making the game less micromanagement intensive...although to be fair, with only ONE FAMBLY to play, micromanagement may be all there is to the game.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Nightmare on 2009 May 18, 17:56:03 No worries, Skadi. Nightmare is a complete douche who frequents PMBD and never reads. I think it's obvious that Nightmare is a moron, as Nightmoron apparently thinks that SecuROM is a "he". Nightmoron also believes that software can have cronies. Quoting the proof, in case it's deleted: You are doing Securom and his cronies a big favour. Ah! The MATYcian love, I expect no less from you. Send me your phone number, you might win the lotto and I´ll call ya :D I don´t think leaking an early beta of a game that has Securom will do any benefit to the gaming community. It is true that the news is that a securom version was cracked. But they could have waited to the release day to compare between the real deal. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 18:00:08 You can play more than one family. It works just like TS2 in this way. You just zoom out until this button comes up to go back to the neighborhood view and select a new family to play. I'm planning on playing all my families in week-long cycles.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 18, 18:01:15 Again, what proofs do you have that this is an early beta/alpha version? You're spreading that both here and at the BBS, under your SBlade handle. You wouldn't be spewing rumors, now would you?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jelenedra on 2009 May 18, 18:01:40 Yes, but do previously played families wait patiently for you to come back?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 18, 18:03:40 No, according to Pescado, they either die in fires or breed hideous mutant offspring while you are looking the other way.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 18, 18:05:35 You can play more than one family. It works just like TS2 in this way. You just zoom out until this button comes up to go back to the neighborhood view and select a new family to play. I'm planning on playing all my families in week-long cycles. Doesn't switching families cause you to lose progression? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 18:06:42 Yes, but do previously played families wait patiently for you to come back? It depends on the autonomy settings. If it's on high, they'll get married, have kids, etc. without you, but if it's on low, they'll just continue going to work and taking care of their basic needs so they won't die. I have my game set on low. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: gyrobot on 2009 May 18, 18:11:03 So I presume the aging off cheat won't work...damn...guess there is motivation to keep the sims 2 around...Anyways, any idea on the new foods avaible in the sims?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 18, 18:12:11 So I presume the aging off cheat won't work...damn...guess there is motivation to keep the sims 2 around...Anyways, any idea on the new foods avaible in the sims? There's an aging option in the settings. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jelenedra on 2009 May 18, 18:12:47 Will be set on low, kthxbai. =0)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 18, 18:39:49 That behavior is controlled under "Story Progression". However, if you stop playing your current fambly, you forfeit all your current want progress, and possibly godknowswhatelse. All in all, the game is not well tailored for multi-fambly play...and you are utterly hosed if you are trying to do something in two fambys simultaneously!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 18, 18:44:50 What do you mean by want progress Pescado, are the wants not like TS2?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: spookymuffin on 2009 May 18, 18:47:29 It doesn't really sound like I'll be leaving TS2 for this, but I'm certainly intrigued enough to give it the old college try.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 18, 19:02:29 Yep, I'm sticking to TS2. *goes on CC downloading binge because my elders still need un-fugly clothes*
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: MidnightVoyager on 2009 May 18, 19:06:10 What do you mean by want progress Pescado, are the wants not like TS2? Remember those "Boink six people" wants? Either that, or maybe there's something like "Work out for five hours." Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 18, 19:07:38 Oh, and- mind if I spread the word? Leave links to this in a few places I know are frequented by other Simmers?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kazebird on 2009 May 18, 19:20:19 What happens now?
Does this mean awesomeland has averted apocalypse? Does this mean only the tards in the fan base are moving on? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kazebird on 2009 May 18, 19:35:05 Can someone with the torrent post pics of the game's fail?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Nightmare on 2009 May 18, 19:40:51 Again, what proofs do you have that this is an early beta/alpha version? You're spreading that both here and at the BBS, under your SBlade handle. You wouldn't be spewing rumors, now would you? As you can see by PM, I speak of something I´ve tested it myself. If this isn´t a Beta, this is the biggest shit I´ve ever seen. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 18, 19:46:34 Again, what proofs do you have that this is an early beta/alpha version? You're spreading that both here and at the BBS, under your SBlade handle. You wouldn't be spewing rumors, now would you? As you can see by PM, I speak of something I´ve tested it myself. If this isn´t a Beta, this is the biggest shit I´ve ever seen. Well, colour us surprised. TS3 is shit. If only someone had predicted that. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 18, 20:00:21 Again, what proofs do you have that this is an early beta/alpha version? You're spreading that both here and at the BBS, under your SBlade handle. You wouldn't be spewing rumors, now would you? As you can see by PM, I speak of something I´ve tested it myself. If this isn´t a Beta, this is the biggest shit I´ve ever seen. Notice that I'm not arguing that it's the biggest shit you've ever seen. It's up there on my list. I'm keeping my list of gripes until I've had a couple days to play through. Parrot, I haven't been taking a lot of pics and none of the UI or popups. I'll get on that. Here's a couple in-game. Notable is that game pic sizes are defaulted at 1024x768 and there are no thumbnails taken. Also, I'm at highest graphic settings: (http://i42.tinypic.com/4h8k0k.jpg) (http://i42.tinypic.com/331kuqb.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: IAmTheRad on 2009 May 18, 20:05:09 You cannot have multiple households in the same neighbourhood. That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cwieberdink on 2009 May 18, 20:09:58 Zazazu, those are some fugly ass sims.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cklayne on 2009 May 18, 20:13:44 You seriously can't play more than 1 sim family per 'hood?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lum on 2009 May 18, 20:18:43 Question for Zazazu: Are the sims naturally chubby, or did you make her that way? Can you change their weight to begin with?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 18, 20:22:05 @IAmTheRad and cklayne, and anyone else who either lacks reading comprehension skills or has a limited attention span:
Selective reading = fail I know it's hard for some folks, especially some noobs, but for pity's sake, READ THE WHOLE THREAD. Asking questions that have already been answered and making comments that show you stopped reading at a certain point is tres annoying, and serves to solidfy your appearance of stupidity. This is not the BBS. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cklayne on 2009 May 18, 20:29:08 I have read the whole thread, thanks. ;)
From what I've gathered, here and other places, you can *technically* play more than one family, but by doing so you forfeit all progress. I was simply asking for clarification on this, not asking anyone to preform brain surgery or learn rocket science. Yes, I made an account (actually, I had one previously, but was usually in lurk mode and apparently lost it in some house cleaning) to ask a question. Shock and horror! :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: snowbawl on 2009 May 18, 20:36:21 You seem to have the gist of it, n00b. If you require further clarification, I suggest arr'ing it yourself.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 18, 20:38:48 Well it appears your houses can be subject to random acts on move in. My house was on an indian burial ground, meaning 3 ghost sims where on the lot. You can interact with ghosts as normal sims it seems, but what annoys me is that they use the house appliances. The fire death ghost made dinner and burnt it. I forsee fire!
A lot of the animations are copy+pasted from TS2, I only saw a couple of new ones and they looked odd and jolty in comparision to the others. There also seems to be contact problems with objects and sims, so there are air gaps in interactions. This happened in TS2 as well though. The fights were short (a few sim mins), but it seems that if your sim does have 'performs well in a fight' traits it actually works and they win more, not awesomeware, but it's better than totally random. In fact my general opinion is: like TS2 but not as good. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cwhitney on 2009 May 18, 20:39:14 Continuing Impressions: 1. Sims in TS3 are just not as good-looking at their TS2 equivalents. Yes, they are more detailed. Yes, you can trick them out in ways that you can't really do with TS2 sims. But they're still ugly. And this is coming from someone who *ISN'T* a heavy CC user: I basically use EAxis default skins, EAxis default eyes. But the fact of the matter is, TS3 sims are just ugly. Why? I am not qualified to say. They just ARE. It took very little effort, even for someone with my complete lack of artistic skills, to throw together a sim that looked passably like someone familiar, or at least, wasn't ugly. I have spent an hour fiddling with the damn thing, but nothing I do produces something other than a pudgy, doughy-faced, slopey-foreheaded ape. That's why I'm lukewarm at best about buying TS3. All the other content and comparisons between the two games really make TS3 look a lot more impressive than TS2, and then I see the sims themselves... They don't have any personality. The faces don't have any character. They're just spheroids with faces stamped on them. There's no distinct definition to any of them. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 18, 21:23:12 Zazazu, those are some fugly ass sims. The skin tones are flat and react oddly to lighting. Also, you have no sliders for facial features. You can only choose from a limited number of noses, eyes, etc, though things like hair color and eye color give endless possibilities. All the sims are fugly. In her defense, she was making a face in the second picture.Question for Zazazu: Are the sims naturally chubby, or did you make her that way? Can you change their weight to begin with? I made her that chubby. She's slightly over the midpoint on the weight slider, no muscle tone. You can definitely edit both in CAS.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 18, 21:40:48 I thought there were supposed to be sliders? I could have sworn there was something in a review of the game about easily-customized facial features. :(
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 18, 22:16:33 There's sliders to customize face pieces its a tab next to the templates.
Anyone seen the "teach toddler to walk" animations yet? They are seriously messed up. The hands don't connect proper to the toddler at all at any point. Also they seem to pull all baby and toddler food out of their ass. Although i'd call that an improvement no running across the house to the fridge to grab a bottle of milk or bowl of mush. Toddlers also finally sleep like normal sims so they don't need to take 10 naps a day. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DrNerd on 2009 May 18, 22:32:26 Zazazu, those are some fugly ass sims. The skin tones are flat and react oddly to lighting. Also, you have no sliders for facial features. You can only choose from a limited number of noses, eyes, etc, though things like hair color and eye color give endless possibilities. All the sims are fugly. In her defense, she was making a face in the second picture....So they've basically given us Mr. Potatohead, with customizable hair and eye color? That turns out looking doughy? Ugh, uber-fail. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 18, 22:42:37 Pulling food out of their ass is no surprise, since they have a tendency to put everything and anything in inventory. Any time they read a book, they put it in inventory. Papers? Inventory. Freaking guitars get popped into inventory by default.
I'll go through CAS again and see if I can't spy the sliders. Kind of bit more off than I should have starting with a two-sim household. Can't hold off any more. Likes:
Dislikes:
All-in-all, I can see some definite potential, but it feels very unfinished in a typical EAxian way. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 18, 22:58:26 I wonder what's up with taking screenshots. I've taken some print screens of the game and they all look very dark and I've noticed this for all the screenshots from the leaked game. The game itself isn't that dark, but I've had to adjust the brightness and contrast for all the screens I get.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lum on 2009 May 18, 23:34:48 Awesomesauce! One of the comments at the arr site mentions that 'it runs even better than ts2' in his 4 year-old-machine. I'm going to take his word on that, cuz I really don't want to get a new video card.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 19, 00:30:10 Considering that it accomplishes this by essentially stripping most of the game, that doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Pinstar on 2009 May 19, 00:44:35 Enforced Legacy Play? Bleh.
I'm all for playing my own challenge and intend on making a TS3 version of it, but I do hope the game doesn't make you play like that constantly. Is there no "time freeze" option for families not being played to prevent aging, births, deaths and the like? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 01:01:29 Enforced Legacy Play? Bleh. You know this comment is amusing coming from you. :P There is, in options, game options tab, the option to uncheck "Enable Story Progression". This is specifically suppose to block things like marriages and spawning. Right now, I'm playing a single sim household across the street from my initial roommate setup. I can see the roommates going off to work and to community lots. It also looks like they bought a crappy car for their empty carport. After a week, I'm planning on checking in on them.I'm all for playing my own challenge and intend on making a TS3 version of it, but I do hope the game doesn't make you play like that constantly. Is there no "time freeze" option for families not being played to prevent aging, births, deaths and the like? Interestingly, I stopped the first house at 2:00 AM Thursday. When I added the new house, she opened up at 2:00 AM Thursday. That was messy. Well it appears your houses can be subject to random acts on move in. My house was on an indian burial ground, meaning 3 ghost sims where on the lot. You can interact with ghosts as normal sims it seems, but what annoys me is that they use the house appliances. The fire death ghost made dinner and burnt it. I forsee fire! Was this the kind of cruddy 1 bed/bath with a row of flamingos outside? I had the same thing. A ghost buster showed right up and I asked him to get rid of them. There were some nice gemstones in the back yard amongst the weeds.I wonder what's up with taking screenshots. I've taken some print screens of the game and they all look very dark and I've noticed this for all the screenshots from the leaked game. The game itself isn't that dark, but I've had to adjust the brightness and contrast for all the screens I get. On tabbing back from desktop view to the game, things go very bright. I suspect it's done some odd changes to the brightness and contrast to give it the next-gen look. Screen captures are awful here. Anyone tried Fraps?Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Pinstar on 2009 May 19, 01:19:53 Enforced Legacy Play? Bleh. You know this comment is amusing coming from you. :P There is, in options, game options tab, the option to uncheck "Enable Story Progression". This is specifically suppose to block things like marriages and spawning. Right now, I'm playing a single sim household across the street from my initial roommate setup. I can see the roommates going off to work and to community lots. It also looks like they bought a crappy car for their empty carport. After a week, I'm planning on checking in on them.I'm all for playing my own challenge and intend on making a TS3 version of it, but I do hope the game doesn't make you play like that constantly. Is there no "time freeze" option for families not being played to prevent aging, births, deaths and the like? Interestingly, I stopped the first house at 2:00 AM Thursday. When I added the new house, she opened up at 2:00 AM Thursday. That was messy. Well it appears your houses can be subject to random acts on move in. My house was on an indian burial ground, meaning 3 ghost sims where on the lot. You can interact with ghosts as normal sims it seems, but what annoys me is that they use the house appliances. The fire death ghost made dinner and burnt it. I forsee fire! Was this the kind of cruddy 1 bed/bath with a row of flamingos outside? I had the same thing. A ghost buster showed right up and I asked him to get rid of them. There were some nice gemstones in the back yard amongst the weeds.I wonder what's up with taking screenshots. I've taken some print screens of the game and they all look very dark and I've noticed this for all the screenshots from the leaked game. The game itself isn't that dark, but I've had to adjust the brightness and contrast for all the screens I get. On tabbing back from desktop view to the game, things go very bright. I suspect it's done some odd changes to the brightness and contrast to give it the next-gen look. Screen captures are awful here. Anyone tried Fraps?What is surprising? I like the asylum challenge, for example, but would hate it if the general gameplay forced that style of play on me. On the upside, it sounds like spares won't be quite so annoying anymore. It sounds like you can just keep your heir home and send the spares off into the world to be eaten by the time stream. No more of this 6th generation heir is best friends with a the 2nd generation aunt malarkey. I wonder if you still get life insurance money from dead relatives that die of old age on another lot... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sparks on 2009 May 19, 01:27:35 Enforced Legacy Play? Bleh. I'm all for playing my own challenge and intend on making a TS3 version of it, but I do hope the game doesn't make you play like that constantly. Is there no "time freeze" option for families not being played to prevent aging, births, deaths and the like? Seems like neighborhoods would full of death; killing Sims for doing things you don't want them to. If your Sims are 'posed to be poor as fuck but have a job they go to every day while you're not playing their particular house, now will me buying shit while you're not looking? And for those of us few who have never played a challenge and know nothing of Legacy play, would essentially need, oh, I dunno, 50 - 100 different neighborhoods so that the one family that you're actually playing, won't have any cross play with any other families that have their own goings on? Does that make sense? Basically I'm a nutso micro-manager and I don't want anyone doing anything without my control. Also, do you have the choice to not follow your Sim to work if you don't want? Boring work is boring. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cwieberdink on 2009 May 19, 01:42:24 Enforced Legacy Play? Bleh. I'm all for playing my own challenge and intend on making a TS3 version of it, but I do hope the game doesn't make you play like that constantly. Is there no "time freeze" option for families not being played to prevent aging, births, deaths and the like? Seems like neighborhoods would full of death; killing Sims for doing things you don't want them to. If your Sims are 'posed to be poor as fuck but have a job they go to every day while you're not playing their particular house, now will me buying shit while you're not looking? ?? It learns to speak English or it gets the hose again. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 19, 01:47:00 Interestingly, I stopped the first house at 2:00 AM Thursday. When I added the new house, she opened up at 2:00 AM Thursday. That was messy. Yes, the entire world has a single timeclock for everything, which means it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE for anything to occur simultaneously in two houses. If you want to coordinate two famblys having kids at the same age, it's a nearly impossible juggling exercise, and you probably won't be able to properly name them, eitherTitle: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 19, 01:52:58 That reminds me - do the sims name their own spawn based on the locale, or are you forced to name unapproved babies born to sims you aren't playing? I'm actually not sure which would be worse.
Does anyone know if there are any videos of actual (non-shill) people playing TS3 that have not been removed by EA for "copyright violations"? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 02:06:34 How can gaming videos be a copyright violation?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 19, 02:08:28 Interestingly, I stopped the first house at 2:00 AM Thursday. When I added the new house, she opened up at 2:00 AM Thursday. That was messy. Yes, the entire world has a single timeclock for everything, which means it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE for anything to occur simultaneously in two houses. If you want to coordinate two famblys having kids at the same age, it's a nearly impossible juggling exercise, and you probably won't be able to properly name them, eitherReally? Can't you just play one house, get the spouse pregnant, then skip over to the other house, do the same thing, and then let time take its course? I realize that it might be difficult to get the timing exactly right, but it seems to me like you should be able to get it within a day or so. There's nothing keeping you from playing one household for a few Sim hours and then switching to another, is there? I got the impression that you were supposed to be able to peek in and out. Also, re: the name thing -- I remember reading something about notices popping up when important things like births happen, and possibly something about you having control over the names. Have you guys experienced any births in your neighborhoods yet and can confirm that? (If you're playing with story progression on low, maybe not). Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 19, 02:10:42 How can gaming videos be a copyright violation? I was wondering that myself. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 19, 02:35:40 How can gaming videos be a copyright violation? You forget that it's not about whether something *IS* a copyright violation, but merely about whether various weak-nerved individuals can be bludgeoned with legalese.This is why I refuse to use third-party hosting services, preferring to rely on networked resources and domains I control. No youtube, no Botophucket for me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 19, 02:40:07 Does anyone know if there are any videos of actual (non-shill) people playing TS3 that have not been removed by EA for "copyright violations"? A few that are working as of now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1K1qzYK5g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxNHGOIEjeQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljGFFoaaoJE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHH_oET2C1U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0iTMZLyT64 Nothing too fascinating...the really decent ones have been removed. The third one is of woohoo w/ craptacular hearts/rose petals. I recommend going to Google Video, searching for sims 3 gameplay and sorting by date. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DrNerd on 2009 May 19, 02:56:55 Enforced Legacy Play? Bleh. If your Sims are 'posed to be poor as fuck but have a job they go to every day while you're not playing their particular house, now will me buying shit while you're not looking?I'm all for playing my own challenge and intend on making a TS3 version of it, but I do hope the game doesn't make you play like that constantly. Is there no "time freeze" option for families not being played to prevent aging, births, deaths and the like? ?? It learns to speak English or it gets the hose again. I believe it's "If your Sims are supposed to be poor as fuck but have a job they go to every day while you're not playing their particular house, now will be buying shit while you're not looking?" meaning, "You make a family that's dirt poor, and get them jobs, and they go to work while you're playing another house, increasing their net worth, will now be buying (potentially expensive) stuff without my OK?" Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 19, 03:01:42 A few that are working as of now: Ah, thanks, I guess. I was searching google video, but didn't realize you could sort by date. I guess I'll just have to wait for the torrent to finish tomorrow. Or the next day. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 03:04:41 Video snip - http://tinypic.com/r/5ug23a/5
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Exiled on 2009 May 19, 03:10:44 The YouTube videos are not impressing me that much. The WooHoo, in particular, looks like it's been ripped frame for frame from TS2 with some cheesy-looking petals falling down. The fireworks from TS2 were better.
Just out of curiosity, how long did it take for some hacks to come in TS2? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 03:14:39 Also, re: the name thing -- I remember reading something about notices popping up when important things like births happen, and possibly something about you having control over the names. Have you guys experienced any births in your neighborhoods yet and can confirm that? (If you're playing with story progression on low, maybe not). Yeah no... I'm just trying to figure out how to marry off a sim. Pamela Snoot (CAS) is perpetual best friends with this guy, who is still showing as just a best friend despite the fact that she has the option to woohoo and try for a baby in bed. Under romantic options, I have all flirt options and the amorous hug option, but no kiss option. Kiss is only available in bed or under her special trait options...Great Kisser. In TS2, they'd be potty training a toddler by now.FYI, you can totally live off the land. My one girl is making about $115/day from harvesting on community lot trees. There are picnic baskets with free meals in the town square. They can also nap on lounge chairs, or ask to sleep over at a friend's. In fact, her unemployed boyfriend who admits to having no money sleeps at her house every night. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 19, 03:20:03 Bloody hells! I go away for one weekend and there's a "horror pre-release". I guess I'll be firing up uTorrent so as to be able to annoy myself. Six pages of this so far has not made me optimistic (especially Zaza's screenshots).
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 19, 03:31:29 Oh hey, I just remembered:
Did the "choose the Sim's voice" feature make it to the release, or was that all L&P? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 03:35:27 Oh hey, I just remembered: Did the "choose the Sim's voice" feature make it to the release, or was that all L&P? When I created my sim, there were three voices I could select from and then a pitch shifter which apparently did nothing. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 19, 03:37:15 When I created my sim, there were three voices I could select from and then a pitch shifter which apparently did nothing. Huh. Good to know. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 19, 03:39:28 About a month, but TS2's scriptcode was very similar to TS1's. TS2 also wasn't encrypted to prevent modification.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 19, 03:49:12 Oh hey, I just remembered: Did the "choose the Sim's voice" feature make it to the release, or was that all L&P? When I created my sim, there were three voices I could select from and then a pitch shifter which apparently did nothing. Really? In some of the videos that got taken down from YouTube I saw them use the pitch shifter and it sounded like it made a difference to me ... They didn't spend too long on it though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kaoz on 2009 May 19, 03:53:28 From what I've read in this thread (And yes, I read all 6 pages) this game doesn't sound like it's even worth the CD it's coded on. And that's with the obviously pros the game has. It's the cons...and the MASSIVE amount of them that have pretty much turned me off to TS3 like it was a fat, ugly chick that smelled like bacon and gym socks. I'll be saving my $50 for something I'll actually not regret buying after 2 hours.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 19, 06:08:04 I almost hate to ask this, but has anyone had any luck with an arr'd version for Mac? I'm away from PC's until the release, sadly...If this is a beta version, leaked from a preview, I would understand it not being around. If, however, this is the release version, leaked through the manufacturer or the like, shouldn't a Mac-capable copy be floating around somewhere? I can't find it, but I suck with the arr'ing. Like Splotch, if you have a reasonably new mac with an intel processor, you should be able to play. Early reporting suggests the crack works. I am about 4 hours away from being able to try it out myself, but I probably won't get to it until tomorrow evening. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: lemmiwinks on 2009 May 19, 06:08:46 From what I've read in this thread (And yes, I read all 6 pages) this game doesn't sound like it's even worth the CD it's coded on. And that's with the obviously pros the game has. It's the cons...and the MASSIVE amount of them that have pretty much turned me off to TS3 like it was a fat, ugly chick that smelled like bacon and gym socks. I'll be saving my $50 for something I'll actually not regret buying after 2 hours. Quoted for posterity. Man, are you in the wrong forum. Go back to the chans where you can be a sexist internet tough guy without being called on it. Here, you are going to be shredded, your head eaten and forgotten about. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 19, 06:38:46 From the pics & videos I've seen, this seems to have a TS1 look & feel to it (e.g. the thumbnails of the sims).
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 06:55:41 Oh look, a bug.
Finally figured out why I couldn't get romantic actions between the couple or a status past best friend, despite their being best friends for over a week and having woohooed. It looks like the relationship levels score separately. Far as I can tell without actually seeing the code (like I would understand it fully), filling the score for a level prompts a pass through to the next. I never got the pass through. After verifying that it worked in another household, I went back to the trouble couple and enabled testing cheats. I lowered the relationship. Tried increasing to best friend and doing romantic actions. No kissing available, no romantic interest relationship level. Then manually dragged the relationship bar to the apex. Lo, one flirt later they were romantic interests. All went smoothly from there. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: FilthyOaf on 2009 May 19, 07:07:40 personally, I like it when you're riding your bike and cars just run you over from behind and then *pop* there you are again at the back of the car, still pedaling away like the car was just a piece of scenery animation...oh wait! It was.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 19, 07:18:37 Adding to the teach toddler to talk mention earlier, yeah, the script is pretty screwed up. Twice I've had both parent and toddler freeze completely, only remedied by deletion of subjects and reloading the family, of course losing all wishes in the progress. Only major glitch I've really spotted so far other than typical Sims gameplay quirks. Care is advised when teaching your spawn how to talk.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ttech on 2009 May 19, 07:19:44 Alright, so I joined to express my opinion about this game. The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. I just got done playing for a few minutes and it was pretty fun, I'm actually trying to do all this as quick as possible so I can hop back on.
The graphics look good and the camera is nice, though I still haven't gotten used to the new UI on the bottom. I went to the park and found some random guy sleeping on the ground, that was interesting. So anyways, I hit SHIFT+CTRL+C (I think is it) and it brought up the console. I tried the 'boolprop testingcheatsenabled true' and it told me that 'boolprop' was unknown so I tried just the latter... and it WORKED! Awesome, now, because I can wonder around town and check everything out without having to worry about completing things like eating, sleeping, etc. Anyways, back to the game itself. Without giving anything away, really, the added options are pretty cool (especially the trait specific ones). Also I DO have to agree that there aren't too many appearance options like hair and clothing. I can see that probably being annoying if we can't mod the game. Here's some photos showing the game. They're downscaled, the actual res is 1680x1050. Sorry if they're too big, I tried to find a spoiler or hide tag, but couldn't. (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/eaglesoccer016/Sims%203/TS32009-05-1901-46-03-51.jpg) (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/eaglesoccer016/Sims%203/TS32009-05-1901-45-54-19.jpg) (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/eaglesoccer016/Sims%203/TS32009-05-1901-47-06-26.jpg) (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/eaglesoccer016/Sims%203/TS32009-05-1901-43-56-10.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 19, 07:27:58 The sims don't have shadows.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: lemmiwinks on 2009 May 19, 07:29:44 The sims don't have shadows. Whut? They do in the pics right above your post. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 07:34:40 The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. One post Tasty Tourist knows more than KBC, news at 11. The sims don't have shadows. Your tea cosy is boiling your brains again. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 19, 07:36:15 Just thought i'd mention this since NPCs now go through pregnancies properly. It's now possible to impregnate half the women in the town and get an insane amount of kids from doing so. I decided to give it a go to see just how many the guy can spawn.
Anyone else think this would make a nifty TS3 challenge? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 19, 07:39:45 Dude, the Sims does not have spoilers. This is not the kind of game where you get to the end and find out that Snape killed Dumbledore.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 19, 07:47:07 The sims don't have shadows. Whut? They do in the pics right above your post. I don't see any sim shadows. I see shadows of the objects not the sims. The sims do not throw shadows on the table they are sitting at nor do you see their head above the table in the shadow on the ground Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 19, 07:49:07 Inge, two of the sims' shadows by the picnic table are behind the table/other sims. You can see the other sim's shadow to the right of white-skirt-wearing woman's butt.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: lemmiwinks on 2009 May 19, 07:52:47 I suspect a tight tea cosy.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 19, 07:55:04 Inge, two of the sims' shadows by the picnic table are behind the table/other sims. You can see the other sim's shadow to the right of white-skirt-wearing woman's butt. Ok I see them now. That's a relief! There's something not quite right still, but anyway it's better than nothing. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 19, 07:55:47 I suspect a tight tea cosy. You're nothing but an Uncouth Undesirable :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 07:57:20 At least they included leftovers and rugs in the base game.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: witch on 2009 May 19, 07:59:18 Alright, so I joined to express my opinion about this game. The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. I just got done playing for a few minutes and it was pretty fun, I'm actually trying to do all this as quick as possible so I can hop back on. Cheers, those are the first images I've seen. I love the flowers and the surround detail, pity they've managed to lose sim detail in the pudgieness. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 19, 08:01:32 So, ttech, are you going to "spoil" us? What kinds of social interactions does your absent-minded, insane, inappropriate, evil, grumpy sim have?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 19, 08:03:38 Alright, so I joined to express my opinion about this game. The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. I just got done playing for a few minutes and it was pretty fun, I'm actually trying to do all this as quick as possible so I can hop back on. Nice to get a report from someone who has spent at least a couple of hours playing the game. Thanks, that was great. Oops, sorry Pescado, I forgot how much you hate thanks. Still, your report in the first post of this thread suggests you spent more time in the game than the person I just quoted. Now to decide who I trust more when it comes to The Sims games: the person who has kept my game playable for the past 4 or 5 years, or some random person making their first post. Decisions, decisions. EDIT: grammar Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 19, 08:05:54 There were things I hated about the game but that I hoped were glitches or things I could fix in the 'options'. now i see more than just myself getting the same crap - the camera movement is sad.
I really like create a style though. I got sick of hearing the eaxians talk about it, but i guess it really was worth getting excited about. I'm not sure I'll be able to stand the game in the long run or not. Why do the Sims walk so strangely? Someone said when you zoom out you can pick a new house to play. how? all i get are filtering options and if i click a house i only get an option to visit the house i clicked with the Sim I am bound to. I've switched houses by going to "edit neighbourhood". is there an easier way? Sims heads are too big and why the hell can't you make their eyebrows thicker or thinner? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: lemmiwinks on 2009 May 19, 08:07:01 "absent-minded, insane, inappropriate, evil, grumpy sim"?
*Perk* /me sits up and pays attention. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 08:10:33 Tsk tsk, Inge, double posting?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: witch on 2009 May 19, 08:17:10 Tsk tsk Rhaydon, tsk tsking? :P
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 19, 08:19:15 Double, double Witch, tsking doubles?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 19, 08:29:18 whatever happened to that "asain-ness" slider?? :-\
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Khaleesi on 2009 May 19, 08:49:41 Those screenshots are wholly unimpressive. This topic is just solidifying how much I DNW this game.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyndon Baines Johnson on 2009 May 19, 08:54:07 EA destroyed the Sim City franchise with Sim City Societies, now they destroyed the Sims franchise with the shit heap they're calling The Sims 3.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: X-Phile on 2009 May 19, 09:35:02 I just found the my documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3 directory. (I only saw EA Games in my documents)
In search for a way to put my own music in the game. And am a little dissapointed that you can have only 1 radiostation to place music: Custom Music. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kiki on 2009 May 19, 10:07:44 Alright, so I joined to express my opinion about this game. The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. Look ma! Is sheeple, can I pets it?? Don't you let that dirty thing follow you home Tasha...you're not keeping it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: zceepy on 2009 May 19, 10:22:19 This will probably equate to zip but I noticed that although some news agencies have picked up on this already the BBC haven't so I sent them an email directing them to this thread. It would be nice to have our point of view at least looked at. Some of the other news articles are so ignorant, a brief over view of this thread would have solved their dozens of innacuracies (one suggested that EA are being punished for removing SecureRom - SecureRoms not gone you twit, if anything they're getting bad karma for lying to us. Not that I believe in Karma but anyhoo..)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: X-Phile on 2009 May 19, 10:39:31 I have a question about playing different households.
In sims 2 you can go from 1 household to another in 1 click. Is it in Sims 3 only possible to go to the "Main menu" then "start a new game" to go to a different household? When I play 1 family I can't see an other way to switch between households. It begins to look like every household I play is a new neighborhood. I hope I explained it correctly. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 10:47:16 It's called change active household. Let me see if I can remember how to do it, cause it is a pain in the arse to do.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Pinstar on 2009 May 19, 10:51:15 Oh look, a bug. Finally figured out why I couldn't get romantic actions between the couple or a status past best friend, despite their being best friends for over a week and having woohooed. It looks like the relationship levels score separately. Far as I can tell without actually seeing the code (like I would understand it fully), filling the score for a level prompts a pass through to the next. I never got the pass through. After verifying that it worked in another household, I went back to the trouble couple and enabled testing cheats. I lowered the relationship. Tried increasing to best friend and doing romantic actions. No kissing available, no romantic interest relationship level. Then manually dragged the relationship bar to the apex. Lo, one flirt later they were romantic interests. All went smoothly from there. Is there any possibility that it might be there by design?. One of the things that bugged me about TS2 was that any of a sim's friends/best friends could instantly be turned into lovers by a single romantic action. This new design might be there to make sure that romances start as romances, and friends stay friends past the critical point... I'm not saying that is the best way to do things, just an observation. Either that or it IS a indeed a bug and I've just spouted some nonsense. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Papercut on 2009 May 19, 11:00:22 whatever happened to that "asain-ness" slider?? :-\ I've been waiting for someone who has a copy of the game to mention this too, as this was one of things I was looking forward to. So far the sims I've seen in screenshots and gameplay vids have seemed very samey. Also, I hate this whole enforced legacy gameplay business. Why, oh why couldn't they have made it so you can choose the autonomy level for individual households? This dictatrix is not happy about losing control. *bangs iron fist on table Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Merlin on 2009 May 19, 11:10:24 So, is Securom only in the Download version? Because some are saying this...
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 11:15:16 We won't be sure until the game comes out, but that is the rumour.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Merlin on 2009 May 19, 11:22:04 Ah okay thanks. I was just wondering because people are arguing about it on another forum, one saying it's in the game, the other that it's only in the download version.
Whatever. Didn't "Bon Voyage" has Securom already either? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 11:26:13 Yeah, all titles from BV had securom. EA are giving lies and propaganda that Securom is not on the disc for TS3, but the only way I can see that happening is if the version on the torrents is a pre-release. I'm more inclined to believe they lied.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 19, 11:26:45 What SecruROM? You are obviously downloading from the wrong group if securom has infected your system, don't use the launcher the usual stuff. My copy is clean, when properly no-cd cracked. If your version has it, get a new crack or iso.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 11:28:20 The NFO lists it as being securom protected, but I have obviously ensured that I am securom free.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Frankenbeasley on 2009 May 19, 11:31:48 Alright, so I joined to express my opinion about this game. The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. Look ma! Is sheeple, can I pets it??Actually, with this sort of kneejerk, pointless reaction, you guys are acting more like sheep than ttech is. Whoever they are is obviously un-sheeplike enough to have arred the game, for one thing. Additionally, they have taken their time to post a capitalised, grammatical, correctly spelt post outlining a few points of interest, to which they have attached screen shots. They didn't say the game was unequivocally great, nor did they say that it was irredeemably bad; they simply noted their experience with the game so far and added their opinion that it was not so black as some would paint it. As for the rubbish about it being their first post and, therefore, not to be trusted, the insinuation is childish and invalid. Imagine that there is another forum, one which Pes, say, is not yet a member of but that you are. Imagine there is an ongoing discussion to which Pes, newly joined, contibutes his first post. Do you automatically dismiss his observations as incorrect and untrustable because he is a 'noob'? If so, then you are an idiot. Judge a post on its content not just on the poster's join date. People are allowed to have differing opinions, you know, especially when they are prepared to present them in a cogent and considered manner. Sometimes, some of you behave like the coke-fiends of my acquaintance who treat anyone who doesn't want to partake of their drug of choice as though they are engaging in some sort of moral attack when, in fact, they are merely expressing a personal choice. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 19, 11:34:14 Yes, BV and all TS2 EPs/EPs released after BV had SecuROM. <looks like I was ninja'd by Skadi on that point>
The torrent sites are including the following instructions with their TS3 download: Quote 2. Burn or mount the image. That suggests that the torrent is an image of a disk-based copy. The torrent sites also advise that the copy protection on the uncracked version was SecuROM, so it looks like the disk-based copy may indeed have SecuROM. Of course, this is merely speculation based on the available evidence, and I will be happy if I am proved wrong when the game is released. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 11:34:57 Perhaps Pes isn't the best example there FB.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Merlin on 2009 May 19, 11:39:39 EA confirmed several times that there will be no Securom on the disk: http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?threadID=9c697e66b53cb9826ee6a642c297d163&directoryID=225&startRow=1&openItemID=item.225,item.43,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23#3dd4e4f42bb309388dfc6c17cf007a2b
I'm so hoping this is true... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Frankenbeasley on 2009 May 19, 11:40:02 Perhaps Pes isn't the best example there FB. I deliberately chose Pes because his opinion on games is so widely respected around here. I am not stating that ttech is, necessarily, a maestro on the same order as the FOJ, I am merely trying to illustrate the point that, in the absence of any obvious idiocy in a post, you have no way of knowing anything about someone's abilities or capabilities from their first post in a forum. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: soozelwoozel on 2009 May 19, 11:41:15 As for the rubbish about it being their first post and, therefore, not to be trusted, the insinuation is childish and invalid. Imagine that there is another forum, one which Pes, say, is not yet a member of but that you are. Imagine there is an ongoing discussion to which Pes, newly joined, contibutes his first post. Do you automatically dismiss his observations as incorrect and untrustable because he is a 'noob'? If so, then you are an idiot. Judge a post on its content not just on the poster's join date. But this is the internets, this is how it works. It's hardly like people were all 'zomg n00b gtfo!!11!', a little light hearted ribbing isn't really worth the effor of climbing up on a soapbox, surely? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Fat D on 2009 May 19, 11:48:48 Did they actually claim to release a securom-free game? As far as I am aware, they only claimed that the measures enabled were not as harsh as the Splotchoid ones (such as online activation).
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 19, 11:49:24 FB, the point you are missing is that we haven't had any non-glowing, non-biased reports prior to this thread. (Nor do I claim that any of the reviews in this thread - including Pescado's - are non-biased.)
The reviews in the magazines that we have seen tend to be glowing - and are usually by people who are quick to point out that they are "real" gamers who don't sim anyway. The only other reports about the game to date have been from people who were bribed with visits to those "creator" camps they had earlier in the year. Hardly unbiased reports. We have already heard how wonderfully super-groovy and ultra-cool the game is from the bribed "creators", from the magazine reviews (by confessed non-simmers), and from EA's glowing pre-release reports. We want the other side. We want to hear what it's REALLY like - how the game is going to piss us off and annoy the crap out of us. We don't need someone coming here and saying "Those doomsayers are wrong guys, in my EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE OF A COUPLE OF MINUTES PLAYING, I discovered that this game is so much fun ... and this thing is really cool ... and that is really great ... and I really liked ..." without really saying anything negative about the game. It just sounds too fanboyish / fangirlish. Besides, we've already heard about what is great about the game. That's what EA's marketing department has been telling us now for ages. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 11:50:03 If I were you cassblonde, I would wait on the video card until the game comes out, that way you can see which cards are going to have issues with the game, a la the nvidia bug. Someone mentioned earlier in this thread about video card issues.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Frankenbeasley on 2009 May 19, 11:50:20 But this is the internets, this is how it works. It's hardly like people were all 'zomg n00b gtfo!!11!', a little light hearted ribbing isn't really worth the effor of climbing up on a soapbox, surely? You forget that, as usual, I start on the moral high ground and that, therefore, it is merely a gravity-assisted step down onto my soapbox. Hardly any effort is required. Anyway, I was merely amused to see people who have not, apparently, arred the game, or played it, poking at someone who has done both of those things and who has taken the trouble to contribute their impressions in a fairly well-written post. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 11:53:45 sorry if it's been mentioned before, but anybody know how to kill some sims....
pools don't work to drown they can climb the edge... lol, three games+24EP/SPs to get that fires are hard if you have multiple sims... they all run into the room and scream like panzies and interactions with anything other than fire and walking are locked out haven't tried starving yet... but suspect they will go to a restaurant or any public place with a grill or other... also, any idea who the seamingly unrelated goth ghost is... the one in the goth graveyard... i can't find her on the family tree! EDIT: my computer 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo GeForce 9800GTX+ 3GB RAM runs the game great at max settings 1920x1200, haven't checked FPS yet but the game isn't laggy yet Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 19, 12:01:13 So I decided to go ahead and bite the bullet so to speak,and download the game despite my original plan not to yesterday. I have to say, the similarities between TS3 and TS1 seem pretty striking, at least to me. Their faces have a somewhat creepy quality to them and are all extremely similar-- I played around in CAS for quite awhile, and had a very difficult time getting a distinct sim that I wanted to play.
The good: -I like the "opportunities", particularly the ones for the career. My main sim biked over to the local Black Gnome Market at four a.m. and gathered intel for her job, which I thought was kind of cool. -The customization options available-- sort of. The actual meshes available are very limited, but the fabric swatching tool is nice, at least at first. After the novelty wore off, I found myself wishing there were more pre-made options available. The less-than-good: -No memories. WHY? I realize they could be annoying and glitchy at times, but it bothers me that my sims will have no memories of getting married, giving birth, and so on. -This is minor, but... no coffee maker? Much like my life, ALL of my sims drink coffee daily. -Cooking now takes a REALLY long time, at least it did for my sim. She was two hours late to work and almost starved to death while trying to make waffles. I can see myself using the "quick meal" option a lot. Those are just the things that jumped out at me. Honestly, it's not quite as bad as I thought it would be, but I can't see it replacing TS2 for a lot of players. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 12:44:49 Wouldn't surprise me, or maybe that's in the collector's edition - they said there was content on that plumbbob drive.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 12:59:35 anybody else think that the torrent might not be the final build... or might be a developer/executive copy to show the big wigs at ea, i say this because it does seem awfully light on content and whatnot... and it load in less than a minute two when you include actually going into the neighborhood to play, compared with the sims 2 i get like 10 minute loads on boot when you include loading the hood.
also, anybody else remember hearing about a tool that allows custom hood making to be released shortly after the game goes on sale? edit: sorry about all the posts so quickly didn't mean to spam the same thing worded differently... again sorry Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mildlydisguised on 2009 May 19, 13:00:51 The creator camp stuff will be downloadable from the exchange when it properly goes live.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Skadi on 2009 May 19, 13:04:51 There is supposed to be a second hood available to registered owners from the exchange. Is there anyway to see what build number is on the torrent release?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tigerlilley on 2009 May 19, 13:06:30 Does anyone know how to do the gardening thing? I can't find anything in the buy/build menu that would make a vege garden, nor were there any seeds to buy at the supermarket. Halp!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kennyinbmore on 2009 May 19, 13:07:00 EA confirmed several times that there will be no Securom on the disk: http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?threadID=9c697e66b53cb9826ee6a642c297d163&directoryID=225&startRow=1&openItemID=item.225,item.43,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23#3dd4e4f42bb309388dfc6c17cf007a2b I'm so hoping this is true... A Maxoids word is not gospel. This is what Humble said quote: The game will have disc-based copy protection - there is a Serial Code just like The Sims 2. To play the game there will not be any online authentication needed The same is true of every expansion of TS2 after Bon Voyage and guess what they had? His statement doesn't say no securom and as someone else mentioned the leaked copy is an iso which is an image of a disc, yet the description says securom is the protection method Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 13:15:05 Does anyone know how to do the gardening thing? I can't find anything in the buy/build menu that would make a vege garden, nor were there any seeds to buy at the supermarket. Halp! you could take some classes from the science center place that will give you some seeds to plant, they'll be in you're inventory, click on them and select plant, then plop em where you want to grow them, don't know where to buy seed though... also, WTF 400simoleans to take a class? expensive... sorry bout double post... didn't see this post when doing last one... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 19, 13:30:21 I plan on upgrading my computer this week. My system currently has: 2 processors running - Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6320 @ 1.86GHz, 2.0 GB RAM, Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (Build Service Pack 32600), NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (GeForce 8600 GT) with 256 MB of video RAM, and 183.8 GB free on my hard drive. I'm adding a GB of RAM to bring me up to 3 GB of RAM and max out my useful RAM under XP but what I am really looking for is video card recommendations since I've heard it's not just video RAM I should be looking at. I have the same card (which is pretty much fried, I think, I had to underclock it in order to play TS2) and the same amount of RAM as you. It works! I have 2.66GHz Dual Core though (and it seems the game runs bit better on one core only). You should be ok. With all settings maxed, you shouldn't experience any particular issues (I have yet to play a huge lot, but the graphic-intensive-looking sea didn't cause a choke). The only thing that takes ages is saving the game. Understandable, 'cause it saves the whole "World" instead of just your simmies' house. My last question involves game play: While the active Sim family is busy with other things(at work, asleep, working through a bunch of things you've told them to do) can you take the camera and go wander around the Hood? If you do is there stuff going on or does stuff only happen on comm lots when your active Sim is there? I like the idea of being able to spy on, take pictures of and make up stuff about what the other Sims are doing while my playable Sim is otherwise occupied(and boring). You can definitely press the 'Map view' button and look at the whole hood while your sims are doing their things at home. That's all I can say at this point. I'm not even sure you can visit another lot without your family coming to visit. I forgot :) Okay, well, I'm not sure what to think after playing for 2,3 sim days (Agnes Crumplebottom). UI is... weird. Not sure if it's but ugly or it just takes some time to get used to it. I haven't touched CAS, except when changing sim's appearance, the game takes you to CAS ::) It might be a good thing, cause TS2's 'Change appearance' window was too small. The hair and make-up section seem very limited. The rabbit-hole concept might be a good thing too, in the long run. Sometimes you just want things done. If there were just rabbit holes than the whole thing would so suck. But the normal ones are there to satisfy are peeping needs. Also, I tried to visit another family's home, but they weren't in, so Agnes couldn't go ::) The Legacy-induced gameplay is a major drawback. If it doesn't get looked into it, I sure won't play it for as long as TS2. Phyllis - You won't need the disk after installing and the crack comes with the image fie. At least the one I got. Also, I couldn't open the setup.exe with winrar so I guess it's fine? (I got mine from direct download links in that post 75 linked in that other thread :) ) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 19, 13:31:03 Does anyone know how to do the gardening thing? I can't find anything in the buy/build menu that would make a vege garden, nor were there any seeds to buy at the supermarket. Halp! In my experience, seeds are typically found around town randomly. They're pretty small though so you have to look close. I usually find at least 1 every time I go to the park, and usually more.I think you can also plant the fruits and vegetables you buy from the store, but you usually need a certain gardening skill to do so. Once you actually have a seed, click it in your inventory and then click plant, and then you can choose where to plant it. No specific things to buy in Build mode for it, you just plop it down wherever. So far I've been enjoying the game quite a bit, but on the other hand, I agree with the naysaying about the family play. I like the wishes and opportunities, and losing them when I want to play another family or having to finish them up first is a pain in the butt. Also, I REALLY wish story progression/aging/etc. were a household-by-household option, not global ones. As it is, I'm gonna have to turn story progression off if I decide to make a seperate family to play, because I'm one of those people that MUST control everything. I don't want my little computer people to run off and get married when I'm not looking! >:( Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Angelina on 2009 May 19, 13:43:07 So i got this about an hour after i got up yesterday, thanks to rapidshare. I played all of yesterday up to about half twelve at night. I first made a sim-self and my bf. I couldnt really make them look like us, even when i figured how to use the advance facial features. My boyfriend could tell it was me because of my blue hair and brown root but that was about it, but i was happy at how diffrent cas was. Not alot of clothes to choose from, and when you recolour a item of clothing it automatically becomes CC. i picked the traits for us both, big one being im good and hes evil. I went to get us a house and could only pick from four, quite disapointing. So after getting a house, had to get jobs, groceries etc. So after a few hours of playing i wanted to try switch families, and it took half an hour to find out how. Once id finally got to the neighboor hood view via edit town there wasnt any good families that i wanted to play so back again i went to them sims i made. Now i was getting annoyed at what little funds they had and how expensive everything was so i entered the motherlode cheat and did up there house. I was trying to get a baby and it took about the 20th try for them, first time wohooing, but when ever i tried before hand, even with a wish from both of them to have a kid, they kept pushing each other off. So finally theu were pregnant, and one of the cutest wishes my bf sim want was to have a little girl, sad to say it was a boy. The animation for the baby suck, my self-sim has long hair and everytime she held the baby her hair would cover it. So i wanted to give the other families a benifit of the doubt, and i went to try get to them again, and i forgot how to. Now i just pressed edit town when my comp turned its self off. So i thought it may have been a graphics card problem, i had spent all day and night on it, it was probably too hot. So off i went to make some cofffee, so annoyed that they dont have it in the game. So i turn my computer back on and loaded it back up, went to click on my family and it shut down again. Now i stsrted getting worried, got my boyfriend to look at it, turned it back on he fiddled with the graphics card option turned all fans on, now ghis took about half an hour and it was fine. Loaded up the sims and it shut down again, so i left it, till this morning and now my computer wont even turn on. i really enjoyed what i played, even if there was lack of new animations. Sorry if there is any spelling mistakes using my phone.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 19, 13:49:01 Hello Angelina, congratulations on your first post at MATY. :)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 19, 13:52:39 -No memories. WHY? I realize they could be annoying and glitchy at times, but it bothers me that my sims will have no memories of getting married, giving birth, and so on. Memories have been replaced by variable duration moodlets, apparently. Part of this is beneficial, if it allows greater datafile cleanliness. Previously, sims that had EVER interacted with ANYONE basically had to be retained FOREVER. This would be a disaster in an endlessly expanding neighborhood, so perhaps the filesize won't explode in a BFBVFS....we will only know when we can open it up in a neighborhood editor and see what disasters have occurred.-This is minor, but... no coffee maker? Much like my life, ALL of my sims drink coffee daily. It exists. In fact, it's quite detailed, including a bunch of incomprehensible names for no real purpose, as there is no actual distinction. Macrocaffeination is no longer something that exists, though, as coffee does not grant energy, but instead the ability to ignore energy provided you recast every 3 hours. If you are not attempting to function without sleep at no energy, it provides a short-term mood boost followed by a penalty after the 3 hours.-Cooking now takes a REALLY long time, at least it did for my sim. She was two hours late to work and almost starved to death while trying to make waffles. I can see myself using the "quick meal" option a lot. Food is also considerably less important, yes.Those are just the things that jumped out at me. Honestly, it's not quite as bad as I thought it would be, but I can't see it replacing TS2 for a lot of players. I have to say, TS3 is more of a "game" than TS2 was. Unfortunately, GAMES have poor longevity. TS2 was a toy. You made your OWN games out of it. TS3 is a game: You play it their way, beat it, and dump it for the next shiny thing.Hello Angelina, congratulations on your first post at MATY. :) (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/crapola/grammartime.gif)Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Angelina on 2009 May 19, 13:53:51 why, thank you. Ive been a member for a while always lurkin, but i forgot my login so made a new one, just so happy i cant vent my frustration at the game here, everywere else its NOT ALLOWED and u get shouted at :'(
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 19, 13:55:26 You're pretty much doomed to be shouted at. Only instead of people shouting at you for criticizing the game, you will be shouted at for your horrible grammar and abuse of punctuation.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Caz on 2009 May 19, 13:58:03 As a lover of Maxis sims... I am severely disappointed with this game. I was hoping to find Brokes, Pleasants, Newbies, Simovitches, Oldies, Burbs, etc. Basically the ancestors of the Pleasantview sims and the Sims of TS1. However, the only returning Sims appear to be Goths, Bachelors, Mrs Crumplebottom and Kaylynn Langerak, which makes no damn sense as she shouldn't even be born yet.
How disappointing. I wanted to see Bob and Betty alive. Now they apparently just don't exist. And the game itself... well, it's confusing, and all the boxes can be annoying. I dislike how the game practically tries to force you to play one family. Sims are pretty good at looking after themselves. One Sim actually woke up in the night to go and feed herself. Is it just me or do Sims take forever to even get a crush on each other, let alone fall in love? I had two Sims flirt with each other repeatedly and they aren't even in love. Just best friends. Strange, I seem to remember that in TS2 if Sims so much as looked at each other funny, they would fall in love. And it creeps me out when I bring up the pie menu and the Sim's face is staring at me. It's so dang creepy. The buy mode is very perplexing. I eventually found a birthday cake in Outdoor Cooking. Yeah, I don't get it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Angelina on 2009 May 19, 14:01:25 well im sorry, as i said on my post i am trying this on a mobile phone, so please excuse the grammar, punctuation and any spelling mistakes. I am trying my best when every five minutes i get disconnected from wlan.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 14:02:54 Is it just me or do Sims take forever to even get a crush on each other, let alone fall in love? I had two Sims flirt with each other repeatedly and they aren't even in love. Just best friends. Strange, I seem to remember that in TS2 if Sims so much as looked at each other funny, they would fall in love. no, confuses me too, especially since i can't get Cornelia and Gunther to woohoo, they're friggen married for christsake... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: chobeegal on 2009 May 19, 14:04:07 You're pretty much doomed to be shouted at. Only instead of people shouting at you for criticizing the game, you will be shouted at for your horrible grammar and abuse of punctuation. Errr, Pes, she did apologize/explain any bad spelling/grammar/punctuation in her initial posting... e.g. Sorry if there is any spelling mistakes using my phone. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Angelina on 2009 May 19, 14:07:09 You're pretty much doomed to be shouted at. Only instead of people shouting at you for criticizing the game, you will be shouted at for your horrible grammar and abuse of punctuation. Errr, Pes, she did apologize for any bad spelling/grammar/punctuation in her initial posting... e.g. Sorry if there is any spelling mistakes using my phone. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 19, 14:08:14 Is it just me or do Sims take forever to even get a crush on each other, let alone fall in love? I had two Sims flirt with each other repeatedly and they aren't even in love. Just best friends. Strange, I seem to remember that in TS2 if Sims so much as looked at each other funny, they would fall in love. no, confuses me too, especially since i can't get Cornelia and Gunther to woohoo, they're friggen married for christsake... Sounds like married life to me :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: anaximander on 2009 May 19, 14:21:52 Re: The interaction non-options:
One thing I've found is that the menus are gradually contextual - after you've done a few "romantic" interactions, more and more "romantic" interactions will appear - IE you have to kiss for awhile before you can give a massage, etc. I think it's an interesting aspect to gameplay, but I haven't decided if I like it or not. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: professorbutters on 2009 May 19, 14:30:37 I have to say, TS3 is more of a "game" than TS2 was. Unfortunately, GAMES have poor longevity. TS2 was a toy. You made your OWN games out of it. TS3 is a game: You play it their way, beat it, and dump it for the next shiny thing. Aha. This is helpful to know. Aside from everything else (the doughy looking Sims, the neighborhood aging), I don't think people who use TS2 for storytelling purposes are going to like this very much. Also, the Exchange problems going on right now are providing yet another example of classic EAxis customer support (i.e. none.) Just a quick comment about enforced "Legacy-style" play: most Legacy players I know don't only play one houseshold. Often they play multiple households, continuing to play the spares when they move out. I never had a huge problem with Generation Two Sims wandering around when Generation Six came along: sometimes I found useful things for them to do much later on. If I get it, which doesn't seem very likely, it probably won't hold my attention for long. I much prefer toys. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 19, 15:01:54 Question for you awesome people:
If the retail disc does turn out to be infected with SecuROM, will the cracked .exe from the arr'd version work to get around it? I've been trying to decide whether I'll return my pre-order if it does happen. I'm leaning toward "lying liars don't deserve my money", but I want to make sure of my options first. Also, is it just me or do these Sims seriously run to fat? The thin end of the scale just looks on the slender side of normal; shouldn't we have emaciated Sims to balance out the obese ones? Or at least have a couple string beans running around. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 15:05:00 If the retail disc does turn out to be infected with SecuROM, will the cracked .exe from the arr'd version work to get around it? if the arr'd version really is really real and not a pregold version yes, if not, IDK Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 19, 15:09:56 If the retail disc does turn out to be infected with SecuROM, will the cracked .exe from the arr'd version work to get around it? if the arr'd version really is really real and not a pregold version yes, if not, IDK If the versions aren't the same, I'd imagine it won't take long for someone to come out with a proper no-cd crack. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kennyinbmore on 2009 May 19, 15:16:19 I doubt the arr version isn't the version being released on June 2nd. If it was released prior to Gold status, I think there would be a case for that.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 15:24:00 I doubt the arr version isn't the version being released on June 2nd. If it was released prior to Gold status, I think there would be a case for that. yes, in all likely hood this recent leak is mostly identical to the one for 2 June, of course barring any changes made when the booty was plundered.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 15:34:12 yes, in all likely hood this recent leak is mostly identical to the one for 2 June, of course barring any changes made when the booty was plundered. Is your shift key badly damaged? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 15:41:51 Actually yes, it is a little fitsy... sorry. Good to know, otherwise I would have assumed you're just a lazy idiot. ;) No, not lazy, just an idiot. The problem is that the keyboard takes a moment to recognize that I've pressed SHIFT and when I type quickly it doesn't register the stroke as a capital letter. Other times I get the shift on the first few letters of an acronym but it'll conk out in the middle making my letters FUBAR and look like this FuBAr. I really hate that and I need to get a new keyboard, but that's really off topic now isn't it? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 15:53:13 The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. One post Tasty Tourist knows more than KBC, news at 11. Inge, two of the sims' shadows by the picnic table are behind the table/other sims. You can see the other sim's shadow to the right of white-skirt-wearing woman's butt. Ok I see them now. That's a relief! There's something not quite right still, but anyway it's better than nothing. Someone said when you zoom out you can pick a new house to play. how? all i get are filtering options and if i click a house i only get an option to visit the house i clicked with the Sim I am bound to. I've switched houses by going to "edit neighbourhood". is there an easier way? Not that I know of, and even that had me stumped for a bit. You have to go to Edit Neighborhood, then something like Modify Active Household. Then it yells at you that it'll be wiping your sims' promises (aka, Pescados gripe about want progress).Oh look, a bug. <truncated, relationship issue> Is there any possibility that it might be there by design?. One of the things that bugged me about TS2 was that any of a sim's friends/best friends could instantly be turned into lovers by a single romantic action. This new design might be there to make sure that romances start as romances, and friends stay friends past the critical point... My last question involves game play: While the active Sim family is busy with other things(at work, asleep, working through a bunch of things you've told them to do) can you take the camera and go wander around the Hood? If you do is there stuff going on or does stuff only happen on comm lots when your active Sim is there? I like the idea of being able to spy on, take pictures of and make up stuff about what the other Sims are doing while my playable Sim is otherwise occupied(and boring). Yes, you can definitely watch other things while any and all sims you are following are off doing other things. I use the time they are off work to track down collectibles or new people to befriend, or just watch others go about their day. The town square, especially, is always really active. You'll get a popup when your sim is done with a class or on their way home, and a little tracker do-job when you have them selected, ala the sim trackers on SC4:Rush Hour.-The customization options available-- sort of. The actual meshes available are very limited, but the fabric swatching tool is nice, at least at first. After the novelty wore off, I found myself wishing there were more pre-made options available. Copying styles is actually pretty easy, if not obvious. In Buy/Build, click on the Create-A-Style button (the palette). You can create as normal, or you can click on an existing object part and drag to another object, then pick the "section" to be matched. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SciBirg on 2009 May 19, 16:14:03 Interesting quote from bit-tech.net (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2009/05/18/the-sims-3-hands-on-preview/4):
Quote ...there are problems but that it’s highly likely they’ll be corrected before the game hits shelves. In all honesty though, we’re not sure that’s the case as, from what we’re aware of, The Sims 3 is done. It was actually meant to have been released already and was delayed mainly for marketing reasons – so improvement on the existing product is an unknown quantity. This is a pretty good and fairly detailed preview. Scroll down and read the last sentence and have a laugh. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 16:17:22 Here's an album with 17 screenshots and notes on each. Enjoy. (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/ZazazuAbubu/TS3%20previews/)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 19, 16:29:30 Here's an album with 17 screenshots and notes on each. Enjoy. (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/ZazazuAbubu/TS3%20previews/) That was interesting, Zaza. It's good to get some shots and insights from someone who is playing. Is it some kind of reflection on our society that they all seem so chubby? I know there's been a push for more realistic body types -- and hey, I'm an extra chubby myself -- but jeez louise! This is, like, overkill. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 19, 16:41:13 Here's an album with 17 screenshots and notes on each. Thanks for the pics. The scenery looks fine. Sims look pretty good indoors??? All these sims look more cartoony than the TS2 sims. There's also something about their eyes that makes them look like plastic robots or living vinyl dolls. TS2 sims had a more realistic look. I found that I wanted to play the castaway sim on the television more than any of the sims in the other pictures. Hopefully there's some way to create slightly less goofy sims or TS3 is going to get excruciating really fast. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SciBirg on 2009 May 19, 16:53:09 Thanks for the look, Z. IMO, compared to how the TS2 sims look right out of the box the TS3 sims don't look half bad to me.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 19, 16:57:14 All I can really think to say now is that I won't be dropping The Sims 2 anytime soon, but I won't be dropping The Sims 3 either. It genuinely doesn't suck massive... well not as far as base games go.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 19, 17:01:36 Thanks for those pics, Zaza. I do think the Sims look a lot better indoors. Out of doors, especially for the light-skinned Sims, they look really odd. I'm really looking forward to some custom skin tones, but except for the weird lighting issues, I don't think TS3 skintones look any worse than TS2 Maxis skintones.
I think the eyes are the best of these new Sims ... watching video and seeing the eyes move around is really awesome. Re: the "fatness" issue ... I've seen some TS3 Sims that look pretty thin, in their face as well as their body. It seems like it's easier to make rounder faced Sims though, which is why we see more of them. I don't know ... I think a lot of people have somewhat weird ideas about how human beings are shaped. Most people in real life have rather roundish faces. It's only on TV and in the media that you see people with ~chiselled jaws~ and such. But we like to imagine otherwise about ourselves, I suppose. I think part of the reason too that the TS3 faces look so round and chubby is down to shading on the skintones. I'll be interested to see if some good custom skintones affect the way the faces look. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 19, 17:08:37 You're pretty much doomed to be shouted at. Only instead of people shouting at you for criticizing the game, you will be shouted at for your horrible grammar and abuse of punctuation. Errr, Pes, she did apologize/explain any bad spelling/grammar/punctuation in her initial posting... e.g. Sorry if there is any spelling mistakes using my phone. NOT an excuse, especially for the walloftext. You are on notice, too, choobooby, for suggesting that there is some kind of free pass for crackberriers. Besides, even if the phone explains the capitalization, it doesn't excuse the apostrophe abuse. Spelling and grammar count, people. Don't make me eat your heads. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 17:29:47 WARNING!!!
I would make this flashy, but then it would be annoying. Guess what? Unticking "Enable Story Progression" does not work. The household I'm playing is right across the street from the first one I started, which had two singleton women. They had a guest come over, so I took the chance to spy inside. There was a toddler on the floor. A toddler named Haeju Schmoe (awful name), meaning he was the son of one of the roommates. Neither roommate had a romantic relationship, and they certainly hadn't been getting busy when I left them. Now I find out that Ms. Schmoe was getting it on with Milton Townsend. Traditional Legacy play is fully enforced, it would seem. Not happy. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 19, 17:33:39 Well! Tsk tsk upon Ms. Schmoe! Brazen hussy!
Seriously, that's so annoying! This game is not going to meet my goddess-complex needs. ETA: I wonder if I could manage to take a couple of hours off this afternoon. I want to explore this horrorshow for myself so much that it's making me nuts! There's something very wrong about that. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 19, 17:41:30 Yeah, that's the dealbreaker for me.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 17:48:49 They might fix that in a patch. It'll be too late by then. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Exiled on 2009 May 19, 17:52:01 Four-month delay and they still didn't include an option to totally disable global aging? EAxis fail.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 19, 17:53:32 Hello, long time lurker, first time poster.
Is anyone else having problems with the music playing in their game? I can't hear any music in build or buy modes, although options tells me there should be some there. (It also won't play via the music tab in options). It doesn't play from the stereos either, although when I fired up the game for the first time last night there was some playing. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 17:56:03 Four-month delay and they still didn't include an option to totally disable global aging? EAxis fail. Aging and story progression are two different options. Edit: Zazazu, did you try changing the autonomy levels? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 19, 17:57:00 You seem to have to hover on top of the stereo to hear the music coming from it. Not that you're missing much, the selection is very short. They should have ripping the music from TS2 and actually give a proper selection of favourites for our sims. I recommend muting the music, getting a stereo for the happy mood, playing in windowed mode and listening to your own pirate cat music.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 19, 18:01:02 I recommend muting the music, getting a stereo for the happy mood, playing in windowed mode and listening to your own pirate cat music. I have a particularly lovely collection of Sea Chanties, by the Tabby Cats.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 19, 18:02:48 This is so sad... it's as if EAxis is encouraging players not to give a hoot about their Sims and if they die or fall in love or get fired or buy shit you don't want them to have, then it's all just a bit of a laugh.
What was EA thinking? WHY do they have to do the stupidest things possible? And on another note, how the hell do you get your Sim to bike? I bought one and placed it in all kinds of different areas around the lot. Nothing's working, when I click it it says there's no interactions available. What am I doing wrong? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kennyinbmore on 2009 May 19, 18:07:41 Four-month delay and they still didn't include an option to totally disable global aging? EAxis fail. Aging and story progression are two different options. Edit: Zazazu, did you try changing the autonomy levels? I was thinking that too. My game should finish downloading by the time I get home this afternoon. The reviews aren't making me happy. I still doubt I'm going back to TS2 though Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 19, 18:08:03 And on another note, how the hell do you get your Sim to bike? I bought one and placed it in all kinds of different areas around the lot. Nothing's working, when I click it it says there's no interactions available. What am I doing wrong? Just a guess - in TS2, sims needed to gain skills in order to do things. Do they need to skillinate on anything to learn how to ride the bike? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Frankenbeasley on 2009 May 19, 18:12:26 And on another note, how the hell do you get your Sim to bike? I bought one and placed it in all kinds of different areas around the lot. Nothing's working, when I click it it says there's no interactions available. What am I doing wrong? Just a guess - in TS2, sims needed to gain skills in order to do things. Do they need to skillinate on anything to learn how to ride the bike? Or, alternatively, it could be one of those actions you initiate through clicking on a Sim, like going for a hike in TS2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 19, 18:23:14 The bike has to be in your inventory, then they should use it automatically to go places except work/school most likely. Yeah, it's weird.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 19, 18:31:36 Let me guess: fishing in the pool is a "feature" too? From this guy's inventory, you can tell he's actually catching stuff, too.
http://www.gamesguide.nl/artikel/10352/de-sims-3---doorspoelen/ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 19, 18:31:59 WARNING!!! I would make this flashy, but then it would be annoying. Guess what? Unticking "Enable Story Progression" does not work. The household I'm playing is right across the street from the first one I started, which had two singleton women. They had a guest come over, so I took the chance to spy inside. There was a toddler on the floor. A toddler named Haeju Schmoe (awful name), meaning he was the son of one of the roommates. Neither roommate had a romantic relationship, and they certainly hadn't been getting busy when I left them. Now I find out that Ms. Schmoe was getting it on with Milton Townsend. Traditional Legacy play is fully enforced, it would seem. Not happy. Yuk. Now I wonder if it's even worth torrenting. Going back to the pics you posted on the previous page - I'm really starting to hope that this isn't the gold version. I mean, they are kidding right? They didn't really give the repo man one of those horrible backward baseball caps, did they? *Wonders if it will be possible to kill the repo man and replace him with a sim that is smart enough to know how to wear a cap* Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 19, 18:33:07 Right, I tested all the music and the only one that actually works is custom. Odd. I have found that folder but can't find where the other music is stored, does anyone know? May have a play around in there if I can get to it.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kennyinbmore on 2009 May 19, 18:34:49 Let me guess: fishing in the pool is a "feature" too? From this guy's inventory, you can tell he's actually catching stuff, too. http://www.gamesguide.nl/artikel/10352/de-sims-3---doorspoelen/ Oh snap :D Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 18:38:30 The bike has to be in your inventory, then they should use it automatically to go places except work/school most likely. Yeah, it's weird. Bike will work from the rack for going to community lots. I haven't figured out how to change the transportation mode for work. You're supposed to be able to, but for the life of me I can't find this fabled transportation options menu of which they speak.Let me guess: fishing in the pool is a "feature" too? From this guy's inventory, you can tell he's actually catching stuff, too. It's a trait perk. http://www.gamesguide.nl/artikel/10352/de-sims-3---doorspoelen/ Edit: Zazazu, did you try changing the autonomy levels? No, because that shit is global. I don't want the sims I'm watching standing around staring at the air until I tell them what to do. Will look at it, but if it's going to create zombies, forget it.Dawnkay, mount the .iso and then open it through My Computer. You should see a folder called "Crack". The .exe crack is there, as well as another file. That other file is a keygen. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 18:42:19 WARNING!!! I would make this flashy, but then it would be annoying. Guess what? Unticking "Enable Story Progression" does not work. The household I'm playing is right across the street from the first one I started, which had two singleton women. They had a guest come over, so I took the chance to spy inside. There was a toddler on the floor. A toddler named Haeju Schmoe (awful name), meaning he was the son of one of the roommates. Neither roommate had a romantic relationship, and they certainly hadn't been getting busy when I left them. Now I find out that Ms. Schmoe was getting it on with Milton Townsend. Traditional Legacy play is fully enforced, it would seem. Not happy. Yuk. Now I wonder if it's even worth torrenting. Going back to the pics you posted on the previous page - I'm really starting to hope that this isn't the gold version. I mean, they are kidding right? They didn't really give the repo man one of those horrible backward baseball caps, did they? *Wonders if it will be possible to kill the repo man and replace him with a sim that is smart enough to know how to wear a cap* All signs point to this being the final version. Anything you read about "beta version" smells of shilling or wishful thinking by bootlickers. Right, I tested all the music and the only one that actually works is custom. Odd. I have found that folder but can't find where the other music is stored, does anyone know? May have a play around in there if I can get to it. I've found two locations, unsure which is more important than the other: \ts3\GameData\Shared\NonPackaged\CustomMusic \My Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Custom Music I have the game downloaded but cant find the registration code. Could someone please post a code? Check the crack folder, you stupid noob. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 19, 18:42:31 Quote Bike will work from the rack for going to community lots. I haven't figured out how to change the transportation mode for work. You're supposed to be able to, but for the life of me I can't find this fabled transportation options menu of which they speak. I doubt it exists. My teenagers and adults use the family car to go places sometimes, but other times use a taxi, and they will always carpool for work unless you tell them to use the car yourself. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 18:44:19 Quote Bike will work from the rack for going to community lots. I haven't figured out how to change the transportation mode for work. You're supposed to be able to, but for the life of me I can't find this fabled transportation options menu of which they speak. I doubt it exists. My teenagers and adults use the family car to go places sometimes, but other times use a taxi, and they will always carpool for work unless you tell them to use the car yourself. When your sims are in transit, there is a dropdown menu from the action. Click that instead of cancelling the action and you can modify things. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 19, 18:48:35 Oh, well, that's a genius spot to put it ::)
I guess it makes some sense, but seeing as how you're usually in a car for maybe 10 seconds at most, it's easy to miss. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: dawnkay on 2009 May 19, 18:49:59 Thanks so much Zazazu.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 19, 18:53:30 OK my Sim started automatically taking his bike when I told him to go somewhere. He still runs to work if he's outside his house and he's late, even if his bike brought him into town.
I had the realisation when playing just now, how awesome the game would be if it behaved as it was advertised - imagine if you had control over every house at once, and all you had to do was zoom out and click a new house to play it. I think it would make all the little annoyances even littler, and all the difference in the world. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ttech on 2009 May 19, 18:58:38 The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. One post Tasty Tourist knows more than KBC, news at 11. The sims don't have shadows. Your tea cosy is boiling your brains again. Yes, in stating my own opinion, I know more than this 'KBC' character. So, ttech, are you going to "spoil" us? What kinds of social interactions does your absent-minded, insane, inappropriate, evil, grumpy sim have? The 'spoil' tags I was referring to was something to hide the pictures, because I didn't know if they would stretch the forum for people using small res monitors. Also, he wasn't that exciting. Meant to post back earlier but I was too busy playing the game. It's pretty fun, but I can understand if the same people who are going of heresy already want to deem it a 'horrorshow'. Anyways, figured I would register to give people good news but I see that y'all are all just EA haters at heart and stuck on the thought that this game is trash, so I think I'll be going. It's just a shame I won't be around whenever you try the game for yourself and have to eat your words... Yes the game may have a few problems, but overall it is a good game and worth playing over TS2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 19:03:13 The people making it sound horrible are over exaggerating, IMO. One post Tasty Tourist knows more than KBC, news at 11. The sims don't have shadows. Your tea cosy is boiling your brains again. Yes, in stating my own opinion, I know more than this 'KBC' character. So, ttech, are you going to "spoil" us? What kinds of social interactions does your absent-minded, insane, inappropriate, evil, grumpy sim have? The 'spoil' tags I was referring to was something to hide the pictures, because I didn't know if they would stretch the forum for people using small res monitors. Also, he wasn't that exciting. Meant to post back earlier but I was too busy playing the game. It's pretty fun, but I can understand if the same people who are going of heresy already want to deem it a 'horrorshow'. Anyways, figured I would register to give people good news but I see that y'all are all just EA haters at heart and stuck on the thought that this game is trash, so I think I'll be going. It's just a shame I won't be around whenever you try the game for yourself and have to eat your words... Yes the game may have a few problems, but overall it is a good game and worth playing over TS2. You smell like a shill or at least a bootlicker. Perhaps if you were less stupid and managed to read the entire thread you'd know that many of us actually ARE playing the game. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: MaximilianPS on 2009 May 19, 19:08:44 if you check the .exe date, you'll notice that it's about april !
that's means the version around the net of ts3 isn't the final release, but probably and RC. (Release Candidate) anyway, the fact that all sims look like a children, the old one too, remain :P i think it looks too children style for my taste -.- Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: aqualectrix on 2009 May 19, 19:10:06 Anyways, figured I would register to give people good news... MATY is not exactly a place where you can bounce in and say "No, it's great!". If you really want to convey your positive impression of the game you're going to have to do better than that. Why are the things that bother everyone else not bothering you? What are the things that make it worthwhile? People are posting these sorts of impressions, and they're interesting to read in a way that "This game is good, losers" is never going to be. but I see that y'all are all just EA haters at heart and stuck on the thought that this game is trash Most of us hate EA because 1) They install nastyware on our computers in a futile attempt at copy protection and 2) We see the potential in the Sims games, and hate to see how badly EA screws them over with lack of bug-testing, listening to the community, etc. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: noretus on 2009 May 19, 19:12:52 I've played for... way too long. Several several hours.
The Bad: Interface is cluttered, like Pescado said. Bothers me a little Its' hard to make different looking Sims. Sliders are there but the change they make is rather small. You manage but it takes some teethgritting and going back and forth the sliders. All Sims tend to be very round faced and look pretty much like you see in the screenshots and videos. Very hard to get away from it. Way too little clothing/hair styles. CAST makes up for it a little but still, shapes are shapes. Skins look better then I expected but still have this icky plastic sheen. Makeup looks fugly and phoney. Looks decent with natural colors that are close to skincolor but any more radical colors look terrible and don't fit the face at all. Sims are still god damn stupid. I get a lot of whining for not being able to sit down when another Sim already went there. Siblings/parents/etc ( twins! ) still refuse to go to bathroom/toilet at the same time ( no privacy plx! ), presumably if they aren't RLY GUD FRIENDZ ( my two Sims who were lovers didnt' seem to mind eachother ). They said there won't be as much having to go to pee. But it's there, oh it's there. Skillgrinding. Much more so then in Sims 2 I feel. Testing Cheats don't give the usual pie-menu as in Sims 2 :( no playing around with stuff. Can still move motives and such and reassign Traits / force aging to older. In the end, not a whole lot to do. Get a job, breed, grind skills, repeat. Of course I'm kind of a stupid Sims player. Babies look hella creepy. Some things are just plain confusing: no idea how to get married :S No idea how to force-age toddlers/babies before 6pm on their birthday ( birthday cake made my adult age to elder, doh... might've been because I had Testing Cheats enabled ). STUFF takes forever to do. Between skilling, working and taking care of basic needs, I feel like there is little to no time to be social. It may All Be In My Head though since I'm a stupid Sims player. Having more then one Sim in the household adds to the stressfullness :/ The Good: CAST. Deserves all the woohaa there is of it. My only problem with it is that I have hard time focusing down on what I want since the choices are nearly limitless. Sims look prettier. They aren't beautiful, but at least they aren't as ugly as in Sims 2 ( without CC ). Game runs fast. For now. And my puter isn't amaizing HC gamer rig. More like a Sunday gamer rig. Interactions based on your Traits are fun. The moodlets ( buffs/debuffs ) are also a bit funny. My Neurotic Sim sometimes gets a small debuff for not checking the faucet for leaking and a buff if he checks it. More freedom with placing objects is for the win. Shall go back to lurking nao. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 19, 19:14:38 Some tech sites are alleging that the leaked copy was, in fact, from the digital download version of the game--an edition we have been told *would* include securom and phoning home. It's not clear as yet whether or not EAxis has violated its promise about the retail edition, so perhaps we oughtn't jump the gun on it.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyndon Baines Johnson on 2009 May 19, 19:16:08 Uh, so if we play another household our other playable households will start reproducing with townies without our control? ???
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyndon Baines Johnson on 2009 May 19, 19:17:57 Quote Some tech sites are alleging that the leaked copy was, in fact, from the digital download version of the game--an edition we have been told *would* include securom and phoning home. It's not clear as yet whether or not EAxis has violated its promise about the retail edition, so perhaps we oughtn't jump the gun on it. If it was a digital download, then why do we have to use a no-CD crack with it or whatever? I think it's the CD/DVD version. :) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 19, 19:20:26 Testing Cheats don't give the usual pie-menu as in Sims 2 :( no playing around with stuff. Can still move motives and such and reassign Traits / force aging to older. How did you turn them on? Using "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true" as in the last game doesn't work. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 19, 19:21:22 if you check the .exe date, you'll notice that it's about april ! that's means the version around the net of ts3 isn't the final release, but probably and RC. (Release Candidate) Woah, interesting! Can anyone else confirm this? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 19, 19:22:25 Anyways, figured I would register to give people good news... MATY is not exactly a place where you can bounce in and say "No, it's great!". If you really want to convey your positive impression of the game you're going to have to do better than that. Why are the things that bother everyone else not bothering you? What are the things that make it worthwhile? People are posting these sorts of impressions, and they're interesting to read in a way that "This game is good, losers" is never going to be. but I see that y'all are all just EA haters at heart and stuck on the thought that this game is trash Most of us hate EA because 1) They install nastyware on our computers in a futile attempt at copy protection and 2) We see the potential in the Sims games, and hate to see how badly EA screws them over with lack of bug-testing, listening to the community, etc. I agree. If ttech had read the entire forum, he would have noticed that the important thing when posting about the game is to include facts with your opinions. The Sims 2 has attracted so many different sorts of players throughout the years that it's impossible to simply say "it's great" and expect everyone to share your opinion. Instead, a good poster (Pes, Za, etc.) will say why he/she does or does not like the game -- and will give information beyond what we can find on the official site. Do I think I'll end up liking TS3 more than 90% of the people here at MATY? Yes. Do I think that gives me the right to disparage the forum and its regular patrons/founders? Hell to the no. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 19:22:52 if you check the .exe date, you'll notice that it's about april ! that's means the version around the net of ts3 isn't the final release, but probably and RC. (Release Candidate) So what you're saying is that EA has managed to discover a process where they can make modifications to the game up to the very minute it's put on shelves? Or perhaps you're just an idiot. Some tech sites are alleging that the leaked copy was, in fact, from the digital download version of the game Smells like EA-based cover-up. Uh, so if we play another household our other playable households will start reproducing with townies without our control? ??? BAD NEWBIE! NO DOUBLE-POSTING! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 19, 19:23:40 Quote Some tech sites are alleging that the leaked copy was, in fact, from the digital download version of the game--an edition we have been told *would* include securom and phoning home. It's not clear as yet whether or not EAxis has violated its promise about the retail edition, so perhaps we oughtn't jump the gun on it. If it was a digital download, then why do we have to use a no-CD crack with it or whatever? I think it's the CD/DVD version. :) Well, I'm just repeating the story I'd read. But were I to wager a guess, I'd say that the digital activation exists precisely for that reason; after it phones home, it would not require a crack (like Mass Effect or something). Thankfully, using the crack and pointing out shortcuts at the exe instead of the launcher solves that. But I'm still optimistic that the retail DVD version won't have it. But I'm a sucker for positive thinking, so... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sammy on 2009 May 19, 19:25:39 Has anyone with the game determined whether there are any supernatural creatures beside the ghosts? Even in the base game for TS2 sims could get abducted by aliens. Of course, I don't expect the range of creatures we have for TS2 + exps, gotta milk the fanbase as much as they possibly can, but I'm curious as I do have more fun with the vampires or witches. I'd check myself, but it's been 24 hours and I'm only at 56.7%. Hurr.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 19, 19:27:17 Uh, so if we play another household our other playable households will start reproducing with townies without our control? ??? Yes. Some tech sites are alleging that the leaked copy was, in fact, from the digital download version of the game--an edition we have been told *would* include securom and phoning home. It's not clear as yet whether or not EAxis has violated its promise about the retail edition, so perhaps we oughtn't jump the gun on it. Several other posters have already pointed this out. However, the leaked version DOES contain a disc image. Probably won't know for sure until June 2nd, though. Copying styles is actually pretty easy, if not obvious. In Buy/Build, click on the Create-A-Style button (the palette). You can create as normal, or you can click on an existing object part and drag to another object, then pick the "section" to be matched. I didn't realize this, thanks for the tip. I'm all for having my Sims' houses coordinating properly, but don't particularly want to spend hours on end making sure the bedspread matches the curtains. :PHow did you turn them on? Using "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true" as in the last game doesn't work. Just remove the "boolprop".Has anyone with the game determined whether there are any supernatural creatures beside the ghosts? Even in the base game for TS2 sims could get abducted by aliens. Of course, I don't expect the range of creatures we have for TS2 + exps, gotta milk the fanbase as much as they possibly can, but I'm curious as I do have more fun with the vampires or witches. I'd check myself, but it's been 24 hours and I'm only at 56.7%. Hurr. As far as I can tell, there are no aliens or vampires, which admittedly sucks. Somebody else feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 19, 19:32:13 Has anyone with the game determined whether there are any supernatural creatures beside the ghosts? Even in the base game for TS2 sims could get abducted by aliens. Of course, I don't expect the range of creatures we have for TS2 + exps, gotta milk the fanbase as much as they possibly can, but I'm curious as I do have more fun with the vampires or witches. I'd check myself, but it's been 24 hours and I'm only at 56.7%. Hurr. As far as I can tell, there are no aliens or vampires, which admittedly sucks. Somebody else feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.EAxis themselves have confirmed this in a number of interviews. Their thought is that now that you can touch/talk to/woohoo/reproduce with ghosts, they are the base game's supernatural creature. Anyone have a ghost baby yet? I'm personally not such a big fan of the ghosties but am really curious as to what a "ghost baby" looks like and how it behaves. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Nightmare on 2009 May 19, 19:37:54 You're pretty much doomed to be shouted at. Only instead of people shouting at you for criticizing the game, you will be shouted at for your horrible grammar and abuse of punctuation. Errr, Pes, she did apologize/explain any bad spelling/grammar/punctuation in her initial posting... e.g. Sorry if there is any spelling mistakes using my phone. NOT an excuse, especially for the walloftext. You are on notice, too, choobooby, for suggesting that there is some kind of free pass for crackberriers. Besides, even if the phone explains the capitalization, it doesn't excuse the apostrophe abuse. Spelling and grammar count, people. Don't make me eat your heads. I would like to see you upload a video where you show us your grammar skills when using a phone. Bitch. Angi, don´t takee the gremmar murons tou seriuos hera. This is MATY. Land of assholering and MOAR fight for the sake of fighting Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sammy on 2009 May 19, 19:42:40 Has anyone with the game determined whether there are any supernatural creatures beside the ghosts? Even in the base game for TS2 sims could get abducted by aliens. Of course, I don't expect the range of creatures we have for TS2 + exps, gotta milk the fanbase as much as they possibly can, but I'm curious as I do have more fun with the vampires or witches. I'd check myself, but it's been 24 hours and I'm only at 56.7%. Hurr. As far as I can tell, there are no aliens or vampires, which admittedly sucks. Somebody else feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.EAxis themselves have confirmed this in a number of interviews. Their thought is that now that you can touch/talk to/woohoo/reproduce with ghosts, they are the base game's supernatural creature. Anyone have a ghost baby yet? I'm personally not such a big fan of the ghosties but am really curious as to what a "ghost baby" looks like and how it behaves. Ghost babies? That's a complete DNW for me. Reproducing with a ghost kinda negates the point of ghosts in the first place. :/ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: dream_operator on 2009 May 19, 19:43:06 So has anyone tried to disable story progression, aging, and set the free-will to low? I was under the impression if we did those things basically families would be like they were in the Sims2, except they they would go to work and you would see them around town... they wouldn't make any big decisions on their own. And as for the wishes resetting, if you played different houses in the Sims2 often when going back to the original household, wants and fears would be reset. Is the wish resetting somehow more of a problem to players than Sims2 want resetting?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Trubble on 2009 May 19, 19:51:02 ... And as for the wishes resetting, if you played different houses in the Sims2 often when going back to the original household, wants and fears would be reset. Is the wish resetting somehow more of a problem to players than Sims2 want resetting? I've never had wants reset when switching between households. Unless a playable sim has gone on a date with another playable sim from a different household, I've never seen the wants change. Just me? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: MadameUgly on 2009 May 19, 19:54:26 I have to say, TS3 is more of a "game" than TS2 was. Unfortunately, GAMES have poor longevity. TS2 was a toy. You made your OWN games out of it. TS3 is a game: You play it their way, beat it, and dump it for the next shiny thing. Aha. This is helpful to know. Aside from everything else (the doughy looking Sims, the neighborhood aging), I don't think people who use TS2 for storytelling purposes are going to like this very much. Also, the Exchange problems going on right now are providing yet another example of classic EAxis customer support (i.e. none.) (snipped out bit) The more I'm seeing of Sims 3 the more it reminds me of a beefed up CONSOLE version of the sims 2 franchise. All the collectibles (the giant bugs made me laugh) just smack of Sims 2 castaway. While I enjoy Castaway, I've never played it with the level of addiction that I have sims 2. Nor have I ever had the urge to make up little stories about my castaways. While there are some things I've seen that look like they would be fun they just don't seem to warrant having to start over again with a base game. I can just fire up the old PS2 and play the "gotta collect them all" game (or just play BV as it was intended) for a few hours without the hassle of no-cd cracks and all that annoyance. And for the cost of sims 3, I could just round out my sims 2 game with the EP/SPs I don't have (that is if the SPs go on sale--what's with them still being so damn expensive!). But since I'm nosey, can someone out there tell me how baby birthing goes down in sims 3. Do you have to call for an ambulance to get the mother to the hospital (since she was shown bringing the cocoon baby home from a hospital)? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Angelina on 2009 May 19, 19:56:17 From what i played yesterday i had some opportunities pop up, but i didnt get any for the third space. Has anyone got any for this and if so what were they?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 19, 19:56:33 You're pretty much doomed to be shouted at. Only instead of people shouting at you for criticizing the game, you will be shouted at for your horrible grammar and abuse of punctuation. Errr, Pes, she did apologize/explain any bad spelling/grammar/punctuation in her initial posting... e.g. Sorry if there is any spelling mistakes using my phone. NOT an excuse, especially for the walloftext. You are on notice, too, choobooby, for suggesting that there is some kind of free pass for crackberriers. Besides, even if the phone explains the capitalization, it doesn't excuse the apostrophe abuse. Spelling and grammar count, people. Don't make me eat your heads. I would like to see you upload a video where you show us your grammar skills when using a phone. Bitch. Angi, don´t takee the gremmar murons tou seriuos hera. This is MATY. Land of assholering and MOAR fight for the sake of fighting Even when I had a crappy phone and had to T9 everything, I still used capitalization and punctuation. If you're against this, you're a complete waste of flesh and air. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Angelina on 2009 May 19, 20:06:58 Next time Im posting on this forum while using a computer, I shall type what I want to say into a word doc and check for errors.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: X-Phile on 2009 May 19, 20:09:11 To be honest I find that some hairstyles from sims 3 look like the hair Peggy makes in
Sims 2. As if a rat ate some hair. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tacuitacitum on 2009 May 19, 20:10:51 *unlurk* please don't eat me :P
Good grief, this game has my graphics card (HD 3850) instantly jumping to 99% load and 70c before the opening intro has finished, nevermind actually playing the thing. I know ATI haven't got the best reputation for good cooling, but I've not got a single app or game that manages that, and it's not an old card. If I may have a moment of tin-foil hat-ness, is this to be expected of a game of Sims 3 calibur and EA's notoriously inefficient coding, or is something more suspicious going on here, with the arr'ed files? (edit: suspicious .exe aside, since it's been found out and replaced) I'd expect high load for say, the neighborhood view, rendering shadows and reflections and whathaveyou. Not when the game is still loading up, during the menu, or a full system crash when my game is paused. Back to actual gameplay, I second the major DNW of not being able to switch households. I like to build up my entire household and micromanage every relationship between them. Not having them breeding with random other sims when my back is turned, and losing progress when I want to switch. That just kills it for me, and for most of the Simmers I know. I do like the moodlets, and the sims seem less moody overall to allow for skilling. The opportunities seem interesting to add to the mix, and while I like having more control over the facial proportions, they still all look far too chubby. I'm all for eliminating size 0s from modelling and the like, but some people that size do actually exist. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jaccirocker on 2009 May 19, 20:11:33 I have to say that the game's graphics remind me very much of the "Desperate Housewives" game or Kudo's. As a matter of fact when my nieces got in from school they thought I was playing "DH". It's pretty interesting though. I just can't wait for mods/cheats/cc.
I do have a screenie I wasn't sure if I could post it here. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: lemmiwinks on 2009 May 19, 20:20:23 Next time Im posting on this forum while using a computer, I shall type what I want to say into a word doc and check for errors. This is actually not a bad idea. Typing like a moron makes people think you are a moron. Do not do it if you expect help around here. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 19, 20:22:53 So has anyone tried to disable story progression, aging, and set the free-will to low? I was under the impression if we did those things basically families would be like they were in the Sims2, except they they would go to work and you would see them around town... they wouldn't make any big decisions on their own. I tried this and as far as I could tell, nothing major happened to my main family. However, the aging is an all-or-nothing deal, meaning that nobody was aging at all. Actually, when I tried to play another family, I noticed something strange. One of my sims, Hank Goddard, is woohooing his female partner in law enforcement but didn't have her in his relationship panel at all when I played his family, and in fact had a completely different woman listed as being his partner. However, when I went back to play his partner's family, all the relationships were still intact. :-\ Not sure what it means, but it doesn't seem to bode well. ETA: Because I wasn't clear, I thought I should add that I played her family for about 10 sim days with aging and story progression on before I tried this, so she should definitely be in his relationship panel. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 20:35:13 So has anyone tried to disable story progression, aging, and set the free-will to low? I was under the impression if we did those things basically families would be like they were in the Sims2, except they they would go to work and you would see them around town... they wouldn't make any big decisions on their own. And as for the wishes resetting, if you played different houses in the Sims2 often when going back to the original household, wants and fears would be reset. Is the wish resetting somehow more of a problem to players than Sims2 want resetting? The settings are GLOBAL. That means that if you disable aging, you disable all aging. That's not Sims2, that's Sims1. Disabling story progression does a big fat nothing, as already explained. Setting autonomy even to low results in zombie sims. I tried it. They just stood there while they starved.The wish reset really isn't a big deal unless you're holding on to a high-scorer. As it is, those are few and far between. But since I'm nosey, can someone out there tell me how baby birthing goes down in sims 3. Do you have to call for an ambulance to get the mother to the hospital (since she was shown bringing the cocoon baby home from a hospital)? I've done one in-house and one in-hospital. Once you get the notice that the sim's water has broken, you can click on them and choose "go to hospital". They will then take a cab along with their spouse (spouse will follow if occupied). A couple hours pass, and the baby is delivered. Mom walks out of the hospital and you name the child. They then go home. On home births, the mom stands there and makes lots of faces and noises (honestly, sounds more like constipation than labor to me). This proceeds for a couple of hours, during which she cannot interact with anything. Then she has the baby and you name it. Interestingly, while there is a "Having baby" moodlet, there are no negative effects. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 19, 20:44:19 Next time Im posting on this forum while using a computer, I shall type what I want to say into a word doc and check for errors. You do that. Also, look up "apostrophe" in the dictionary. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 19, 20:48:33 The settings are GLOBAL. That means that if you disable aging, you disable all aging. That's not Sims2, that's Sims1. Disabling story progression does a big fat nothing, as already explained. Setting autonomy even to low results in zombie sims. I tried it. They just stood there while they starved. I know there's all this argh and frustration about the horror, but this made me LMAO. Anyone installed on the mac yet, or I am I going to be #1 guinea pig this evening? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 19, 20:55:27 Guess what? Unticking "Enable Story Progression" does not work. Is it possible the setting is inverted? Still a bug, though.Mostly, though, the endless spawning sounds horrid, because anytime things start reproducing, you're going to see an exponential curve. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 19, 21:04:05 Anyone installed on the mac yet, or I am I going to be #1 guinea pig this evening? Since the university and I disagree on "appropriate use of university resources", it looks as though you get to be the guinea pig for now. Hopefully I'll be able to join in a little later this week. Edited to fix quote. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Caz on 2009 May 19, 21:15:42 Kaylynn Langerak just effing died. By getting struck by lightning 37 times at some lightning rod tournament, apparently. How did I find out about this? By having Cornelia Goth read the paper.
Part of me wants to break something. The other part of me thinks it serves her right for having fallen in love with an ugly Sim the last time I checked on the household. Having Sims who aren't even old randomly die when you aren't playing their household really sucks. :-\ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 19, 21:29:53 The settings are GLOBAL. That means that if you disable aging, you disable all aging. That's not Sims2, that's Sims1. Disabling story progression does a big fat nothing, as already explained. Setting autonomy even to low results in zombie sims. I tried it. They just stood there while they starved. I know there's all this argh and frustration about the horror, but this made me LMAO. Kaylynn Langerak just effing died. By getting struck by lightning 37 times at some lightning rod tournament, apparently. How did I find out about this? By having Cornelia Goth read the paper. I got a phone call telling me that Gunther Goth didn't have long to live and that I might want to say my final goodbyes. No one in the family knows Gunther Goth. Oh, there's a little Kaylynn Langerak, as well as the adult one. Perhaps she's supposed to be the maid.Guess what? Unticking "Enable Story Progression" does not work. Is it possible the setting is inverted? Still a bug, though.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: dream_operator on 2009 May 19, 21:33:09 Quote The settings are GLOBAL. That means that if you disable aging, you disable all aging. That's not Sims2, that's Sims1. So even the sims in the household you are playing don't age? Gah...that does suck. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 19, 21:38:07 Kaylynn Langerak just effing died. By getting struck by lightning 37 times at some lightning rod tournament, apparently. How did I find out about this? By having Cornelia Goth read the paper. Well, that sounds cool :D Feel free to throw rocks, but I'm all for unplayed sims living their lives, spawning, getting killed randomly... I've been trying to accomplish the very same in TS2, with randomizers and stuff, but this is just more natural. This could be a godsend. I just hope there's some kind of limit, and the towns people won't spawn when that limit is reached. Chances are there's no such limit, knowing EA :( Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daydreamer on 2009 May 19, 21:40:05 Kaylynn Langerak just effing died. By getting struck by lightning 37 times at some lightning rod tournament, apparently. How did I find out about this? By having Cornelia Goth read the paper. Part of me wants to break something. The other part of me thinks it serves her right for having fallen in love with an ugly Sim the last time I checked on the household. Having Sims who aren't even old randomly die when you aren't playing their household really sucks. :-\ See, that's waht I'm scared of. I don't want to return to my favorite household and see my kiddies are phantoms. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SimKat on 2009 May 19, 21:46:37 This game reminds me way too much of the PS2 version of The Sims2 (cheesy).I'm still going too hold off buying it for now.I sure hope the modders can get in thier code and fix this garbage.Looks very buggy too me,then again it's EA what else did I expect lol.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 19, 21:57:39 Cons: I slightly exceed graphical system requirements, yet the game threw me into all low settings the first time I tried to play. I'm getting it to look decent after some fumbling, but I'm surprised at how horrible TS3 on medium settings looks vs. TS2 on medium settings.
UI is less intuitive than TS2. Messy, even the tutorial is just... messy. Pros - I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but I'm really excited (providing it works) - windowed mode without editing a shortcut! Adjustable lifespans - only downside is that I assume it is global vs. per household. I still like that you can shorten or lengthen the lifespan without cheats/mods. Build - Gotta love recycling! I'm getting a bit sick of the same windows/doors/walls/etc being recycled through now three incarnations of the game. The idea of no new meshes makes me want to weep. I have a TS2 addiction to new windows. I am surprisingly delighted by some of the small things in build - the auto roof feature, the dragging of walls, the auto quarter tile placement and 45 degree rotation. I'll add to this as I discover more about it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 19, 21:58:15 Apparently buying sets of objects from the Sims 3 store will cost between $5.75 and $20 according to this site: http://simmersnews.blogspot.com/2009/05/sims-3-store-set-prices.html I hope they'll be easy to share like the TS2 Store items because everyone who buys the game gets $10 worth of Sim Points free. I'd be willing to share what I buy if it's possible to do so. The only bad thing is I heard that the EADM has SecuROM and I don't want it on my computer.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 19, 22:00:28 Pros - I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but I'm really excited (providing it works) - windowed mode without editing a shortcut! Well, it works, but the performance is much, much, MUCH better in full screen mode. For me, it's practically unplayable in WM. It even says so in the readme file. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyndon Baines Johnson on 2009 May 19, 22:06:01 It seems that a lot of those sets feature Sims 2 items. ???
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: specialtoffee on 2009 May 19, 22:07:10 The reloaded iso is the digital download version, as can be seen in the EULA that everybody clicks past without reading:
"ELECTRONIC ARTS END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE SIMS 3 GAME (DISTRIBUTED BY DIGITAL DOWNLOAD)" also "B. Technical Protection Measures. When you purchase the Software online via digital download (the “Digital Download Version”), you receive a Digital Download Version of the Software that uses SecuROM digital rights management technology provided by Sony DADC Austria AG. The SecuROM technology is integrated into the Digital Download Version of the Software and is not a separate installation. For more information about SecuROM, visit www.securom.com and http:/faq.securom.com/. By installing the Software, you acknowledge and agree to the Software’s use of SecuROM. An internet connection is required to authenticate the Software and verify your license (“Online Authentication”)." So that would explain the phoning home, no idea why it's on an iso though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 19, 22:12:25 Well, it works, but the performance is much, much, MUCH better in full screen mode. For me, it's practically unplayable in WM. It even says so in the readme file. LAAAME! I always play TS2 in windowed mode. This makes me sad in my pants. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 19, 22:15:38 It runs great for me in windowed mode. I can't see any difference between that and full screen.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: sweatyscotty on 2009 May 19, 22:20:13 I've just been playing the game for a few hours. So here are my thoughts:
The Good Personally I don't think the clothes are that fugly for Eaxis. WIth the Sims2 base game the jeans were all awkward and all the tops seemed to show belly or fitted awkwardly. Overall I loved CAS. Although I do prefer cartoony sims, my skin for the sims 2 is the maxis match one from gos, the whole thing was far superior to the Sims 2 CAS. The create a style is brilliant. My sim was geared up in leopard print clothes throughout, and her formal wear was a bondagey leather thing. What's not to love? The game is addictive. I meant to go out for a run tonight, then i saw it was dark, well dark. As in half ten at night dark. I started playing the game at 3. So despite what I complain about (a lot) you don't get bored. There are a few wee things that made me happy: If you're shagging the boss you can get a promotion. I had my woman, Joanne Boyle, at the same level as the Wollfe guy (she ruined his marriage). Then when I went to play him it turned out she had been promoted (despite just having a baby). Then the Wollfe guy was able to ask for a promotion from Joanne. :D Careers are hard. I guess that's a good thing, more realistic. there is the relationship 'ex husband' and 'ex wife'. The Bad I like to play on a rota. I play 8 days one family, and 8 days another. Like was said at the begining of this thread- that doesn't look possible here. Babies keep on popping up the houses of single guys. The amount of time I was playing meant for them to be toddlers then someone would have to have given birth in the time i'd played the game... but the guys were on their own. romantic relationships build slowly. Fair enough they want to be realistic. But what about the realistic side that you get drunk and sleep with a stranger? Well actually, they sort of have that to. Before you can kiss, before you can even massage people, you are able to woohoo and make babies. You can kiss on the bed though. Bug perhaps? Worst part of this was I was having my guy pure woo this woman, then I turn round and she's become an elder. Before he even got to shag her. I was llike :/ I have problems with my speed. Not the sims 2 storage kind where everything seems to lag. This is just not a very fast speed. I'm wondering if it's my computer (or the lack of space on my computer) or the game wants us to watch our sims sleep. Also, complete bullshit about needs being easy now. my sims are constantly tired. Moodlets are useful- but without them getting your sims to work is a nightmare. I just think if they'd tacked the open ended neighborhood onto the sims 2 that this would be an amazing game. I really don't get why I truly dislike the game, but managed to play for about 7 hours straight. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 19, 22:21:31 Well, it works, but the performance is much, much, MUCH better in full screen mode. For me, it's practically unplayable in WM. It even says so in the readme file. LAAAME! I always play TS2 in windowed mode. This makes me sad in my pants. Me too, because I had to, but I got so used to it :( Also, alt-tabbing is horrible. And I get a little 'Memory Recovery' window? Not sure if it's a windows thing or one of my long forgotten attempts to improve performance (2GB RAM here). Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 19, 22:22:53 WM runs fine for me - there was a slight hang up loading the town that I didn't have in fullscreen, but this is comparable to TS2.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 19, 22:31:06 Wait wait, these people saying they have random toddlers popping up in their houses:
Could your people be autonomously ADOPTING while you're playing other people? If this is possible, I call EXTREME WTF and stupidity on EA's part and DNW O.o Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Vanni on 2009 May 19, 22:49:33 okay. Long time lurker first time poster.
Spent the entire day (and most of the night) yesterday playing TS3. Honestly...since I'm not a extreme micromanager...I guess some of the complaints others have aren't the same as I would. I.E. Not being able to jump into multiple households on the fly. TBH I usually play one household at a time and that's it. From everything I've seen so far, it's not as polished as TS2 + EP's. But then again, it's the base game. I like how the sims are 'smarter' about their needs. I walked away from the comp at one point and forgot to pause the game. Went and made dinner. Came back 20 mins later and my guy had not only taken perfect care of himself...he'd gotten a promotion at work and pumped up his cooking skill. Had I left my sim alone that long in TS2...he'd be passed out in a pool of his own piss cause he forgot to go to the damn bathroom or go to sleep, and most likely lost his job. I say this is a step forward. Honestly, I haven't found much to complain about. Well no, that's not entirely true. The pudgyness of all the sims faces is something of a WTF. Regardless of how thin a sim is...their faces are still really pudgy. Also, I don't quite like the way you can't just go for a jog like you could in TS2. You have to manually select where they go. :( Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 19, 22:49:45 Quote Anyone installed on the mac yet, or I am I going to be #1 guinea pig this evening? Way ahead of ya. Thankfully, Sims 3 actually plays very decently on the Mac, unlike the crapfest that was TS2. Unfortunately, it looks like shadows are permanently set to low. Installed on both Mac Pro and Macbook Pro, one with ATI card, the other with Nvidia. Well, no shadows on either. Interested to know your results. Other than that, it plays great, but it's so bland and Sims-2ish without working shadows that I'll be playing via Boot Camp for the time being instead. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Genlisae on 2009 May 19, 23:39:49 Have to jump in here with my two cents after having played for several hours over the last 2 days.
A short list of things I dislike: Again with the faces. 3 hours in CAS and I can almost get rid of the round, play-dough jaw, almost. Pathing/Action cue (I am not entirely sure which this would fall under). I had a female sim visit her male neighbour who already had a friend over. The friend and the neighbour were in his kitchen, 30 steps away I told the woman to go talk to the neighbour. All 3 sims proceeded to stand around looking stupid for the next 2 sim hours with the neighbour standing in the kitchen doorway facing out, the friend standing directly behind him and the female sim waiting in the hallway facing the neighbour while she waited to go talk to her neighbour. Once I cancelled the "chat" action they all lept into action where the neighbour took two steps forward and one to the left and let his friend go past him out of the kitchen. Presumably the standing around looking stupid was due to the neighbour having to move out of the friends way but was unable to because he had to go chat with the female sim ? (confused!) The neighbourhood. I feel like I have been transported back into TS1. You can not place empty lots. You can move pre-made lots (to empty lots that are appropriately sized) and you can build on the existing empty lots, but you can not add more lots (unless I missed it in the mess that is the UI, someone please tell me I missed it) Unfulfillable wants and lack of notification/mystical, magical knowledge of happenings in the rest of the 'hood. Female sim is pregnant by male from another household. Switch over to male's household, play for a few days during which female presumably gives birth with NO NOTIFICATION to the father. Mysteriously he is suddenly aware he has a child (shows up in the relationship panel as his "son" despite having never met the child or even seen the mother once since the conception) and "wants" to hold his son. Send him to go visit the mother's household. Find the baby laying forgotten on the floor screaming and father is completely unable to interact with the baby. Two sim days later, again after zero interaction between the households and father now happily engaged to another woman, he rolls the want to teach his (now toddler) son to talk. Another visit to the mothers household and he is still unable to interact with the child. I have not tested if he could interact with the child were he to invite them to his house, of course I haven't figured out how to get the mother to bring the child with her either. There are many more things that irk me, most have already been covered in other posts. Suffice it to say while I was reading every other post with complaints I was nodding in agreement. Likes: Some of the redundancy has been removed from actions. For example, a sim can be relaxing/reading on the bed and you tell them to go to sleep and they will simply slide under the covers and go to sleep rather than get up and go through the whole process of getting out of bed just to get right back in. The ability to simply slide a wall over to adjust the size of a room rather than have to rebuild the whole room - when it works properly! C.A.S.T. though the novelty does wear off very quickly and I find myself wanting more/better texture options. Overall I think the game has potential. Unfortunately, I don't think that potential will ever be realized and TS2 with or without mods is still a much more polished game offering more playability over the long term. Of course, that is just my opinion :) Edited because punctuation is not my friend. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DrNerd on 2009 May 19, 23:41:13 I have to say, TS3 is more of a "game" than TS2 was. Unfortunately, GAMES have poor longevity. TS2 was a toy. You made your OWN games out of it. TS3 is a game: You play it their way, beat it, and dump it for the next shiny thing. Thanks, Pes. This just confirms how much of a DNW TS3 is for me. If I can't make a story, or at the very least, have to base it on THEIR story, then what's the point? I'll stick with my Vetinaris. All the lovely hacks get rid of the annoyances, and I can be happy in the knowledge that the Sims I don't like spend eternity alone and unloved instead of finding ways to make themselves happy. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 19, 23:58:43 The reloaded iso is the digital download version, as can be seen in the EULA that everybody clicks past without reading: "ELECTRONIC ARTS END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE SIMS 3 GAME (DISTRIBUTED BY DIGITAL DOWNLOAD)" also "B. Technical Protection Measures. When you purchase the Software online via digital download (the "Digital Download Version"), you receive a Digital Download Version of the Software that uses SecuROM digital rights management technology provided by Sony DADC Austria AG. The SecuROM technology is integrated into the Digital Download Version of the Software and is not a separate installation. For more information about SecuROM, visit www.securom.com and http:/faq.securom.com/. By installing the Software, you acknowledge and agree to the Software's use of SecuROM. An internet connection is required to authenticate the Software and verify your license ("Online Authentication")." So that would explain the phoning home, no idea why it's on an iso though. Heh, well, that EULA does confirm it then. As for why it's on an iso--simple, it's the standard way to package releases. Remember, even most DVD games are not direct rips--they have to add a crack directory to the disc and then re-iso it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Pinstar on 2009 May 20, 00:18:35 Those are just the things that jumped out at me. Honestly, it's not quite as bad as I thought it would be, but I can't see it replacing TS2 for a lot of players. I have to say, TS3 is more of a "game" than TS2 was. Unfortunately, GAMES have poor longevity. TS2 was a toy. You made your OWN games out of it. TS3 is a game: You play it their way, beat it, and dump it for the next shiny thing. Not if I have anything to say about it. I already have ideas for challenges just based on the broad concepts we've heard thus far, some Legacy related, some completely different. I'll make a toy of it yet! Frammit! *edited to fix quote* Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 00:50:48 The reloaded iso is the digital download version, as can be seen in the EULA that everybody clicks past without reading: That looks like generic boilerplate. Digital downloads DON'T HAVE ISOs. I know what a Reloaded rip of a digital download looks like. See Empire: Total War. It ain't an ISO."ELECTRONIC ARTS END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE SIMS 3 GAME (DISTRIBUTED BY DIGITAL DOWNLOAD)" also "B. Technical Protection Measures. When you purchase the Software online via digital download (the "Digital Download Version"), you receive a Digital Download Version of the Software that uses SecuROM digital rights management technology provided by Sony DADC Austria AG. The SecuROM technology is integrated into the Digital Download Version of the Software and is not a separate installation. For more information about SecuROM, visit www.securom.com and http:/faq.securom.com/. By installing the Software, you acknowledge and agree to the Software's use of SecuROM. An internet connection is required to authenticate the Software and verify your license ("Online Authentication")." So that would explain the phoning home, no idea why it's on an iso though. I was going to try to DL from Pirate Bay or ISOhunt, but on both sites some guy named B_O_L_T has been posting a warning that the download contains a virus in the setup.exe file; it's a codec file. Actually, this is what this person says: This is true. To counter this, if your version behaves this way, you need to mount the ISO, copy all to HD not autorun it, and unRAR the executable archive and extract the "Real" setup and run that.***contains virus*** The file Sims3Setup.exe is a self-deflating executable archive. It contains two files, the real "sims3setup.exe" and a file "codec.exe", the archive runs both when called by Autorun.exe. The file codec.exe is a virus dropper. Before downloading from either site, I want to verify whether this is true or not. The Admin on PB says the DL checks out, but I"m leery of getting anyting on my computer that has a virus. Is there anyone who can verify this before I start? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 20, 00:52:27 Pescado: That's because ETW was distributed on Steam and contained no setup program--it was downloaded as the installed application. That's how Steam works.
Different digital distributors operate differently, and some of them require you to download the setup files first and install them yourself. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 00:54:05 Different digital distributors operate differently, and some of them require you to download the setup files first and install them yourself. Can some schlub who has experienced EAxis digital downloading in the past verify this statement?Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 20, 00:55:31 Different digital distributors operate differently, and some of them require you to download the setup files first and install them yourself. Can some schlub who has experienced EAxis digital downloading in the past verify this statement?I did have to install Splotch after downloading it from EA. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 00:56:33 I did have to install Splotch after downloading it. And was it arranged in a directory someplace in a manner exactly like mentioned above?Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Marhis on 2009 May 20, 00:59:53 Could your people be autonomously ADOPTING while you're playing other people? If this is possible, I call EXTREME WTF and stupidity on EA's part and DNW O.o I have a deja vu of Pets, when you had your playables autonomously buy critters in community lots, so when you go play their households again you find them buried in cat hair and dog poo. FIRST hack to convert from TS2: Babby BBQ. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 20, 01:14:50 I did have to install Splotch after downloading it. And was it arranged in a directory someplace in a manner exactly like mentioned above?A search of my computer revealed the "C:\ProgramData\Electronic Arts\EADM\cache\{ 2267420097 }\spore_dd" folder with what appears to be setup files. (http://i40.tinypic.com/6s89wi.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 20, 01:25:55 So...
Why exactly is this single-household-forced gameplay (apart from sims living on their own when uncontrolled, I don't mind, see below)? I've seen only promises vanish when going back to household #1 from household #2. Everything else remained as it was (skills, relations, that lifetime points thing, job level...) Of course, I might have missed something huge. Also, I only spent like a 1,5 day at household #2, so sim from household #1 didn't have quite enough time to spawn or die. I think I can live with my speshul families falling appart while I'm busy elsewhere. It might be a good thing after all (if it's not absolutely horribly done, I still have no idea how it's done), it will certainly break us out of our routines. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 01:32:48 Could your people be autonomously ADOPTING while you're playing other people? If this is possible, I call EXTREME WTF and stupidity on EA's part and DNW O.o I have a deja vu of Pets, when you had your playables autonomously buy critters in community lots, so when you go play their households again you find them buried in cat hair and dog poo. FIRST hack to convert from TS2: Babby BBQ. No. Demon child is definitely the genetic daughter of Ms. Schmoe. She has the same hair color, down to the subtle blue streaks. She also is extremely ugly. (http://i40.tinypic.com/1zvvgqd.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 20, 01:38:57 Well, I've played for about 4 hours. It actually is not as bad as I started to fear it was from listening to some folks' opinions. I've only played one family, so I can't comment on what happens with multiple family play. The Sims look different than what I'm used to, but I'm adjusting. I'm still having navigation issues, but I'm adjusting, especially since I found the edge scrolling box to check. I think the buildings and landscaping and everything are really, really nice to look at.
I guess at this point I'm still just a little overwhelmed by the differences from TS2. I was much the same when I started playing TS2. And I also tend to proceed very slowly and cautiously with a new game. Chosing locations on the map is stressful. I wish I could choose from a list, like when calling the taxi in TS2. I kind of like the way buy mode is organized. I'm not sure what else to say at this point. However, I'm thinking it may be hard to go back to TS2 after seeing TS3. I may be wrong, though. Guess I'll find out. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 20, 01:43:21 Meant to post back earlier but I was too busy playing the game. It's pretty fun, but I can understand if the same people who are going of heresy already want to deem it a 'horrorshow'. Anyways, figured I would register to give people good news but I see that y'all are all just EA haters at heart and stuck on the thought that this game is trash, so I think I'll be going. It's just a shame I won't be around whenever you try the game for yourself and have to eat your words... Yes the game may have a few problems, but overall it is a good game and worth playing over TS2. Ahh, the use of the word "haters". So revealing. A word that didn't exist when I was a 12, and a word that tends to be used by fanboys & fangirls when anyone dares to criticise their favourite whatever <insert "Leave As I already pointed out, we know the good stuff - that's what EA's marketing department has been telling us for ages. We want to hear the rest of it, the stuff EA tried to gloss over or sweep under the carpet. Ttech, you'll have noticed that there are quite a few player reviews in this thread (including generally positive ones, like the one phyllis just posted immediately above this post) and you'll also have noticed that YOU are the only person copping flak for their review. Why? Because the other reviews in this thread - even the positive ones - don't try to hide the fact that there are flaws in the game. Take off your rose-coloured glasses and step into the real world. No game is perfect, no game can be perfect. Stop trying to convince us that the game is virtually flawless, because nobody here is naive enough to believe that. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 20, 01:46:31 @ Zazazu, did you see the father? Just wondered where those cheeks come from. Maybe she will grow to a descent teen? Hopefully.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Khaleesi on 2009 May 20, 01:55:54 The cheeks don't scare me near as much as the jawline of doom. That is one very unattractive kiddo.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 20, 01:58:19 No. Demon child is definitely the genetic daughter of Ms. Schmoe. She has the same hair color, down to the subtle blue streaks. She also is extremely ugly. (pic snipped) Holy crap. Those eyebrows. D: Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 20, 02:02:23 Maaaan. Now I kind of want to try it, but there's no way I'm dropping what little money I have on it, and I'm too scared to get caught to ARR.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DaSpecialone on 2009 May 20, 02:03:01 Kaylynn Langerak just effing died. By getting struck by lightning 37 times at some lightning rod tournament, apparently. How did I find out about this? By having Cornelia Goth read the paper. Well, that sounds cool :D Feel free to throw rocks, but I'm all for unplayed sims living their lives, spawning, getting killed randomly... I've been trying to accomplish the very same in TS2, with randomizers and stuff, but this is just more natural. This could be a godsend. I just hope there's some kind of limit, and the towns people won't spawn when that limit is reached. Chances are there's no such limit, knowing EA :( I'd only agree on the "coolness" if the screen flashed immediately from the sim you're playing to Langerak as she was being struck. The cheeks don't scare me near as much as the jawline of doom. That is one very unattractive kiddo. Odd part is her face approximates a rectangle....with ears. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 20, 02:11:04 Well at least Ugly Legacies (or however the hell they spell them) wont die out as more and more players switch games - I'd say that little girl would be an ideal founder. It'll be interesting to see how different the genetics play out - it seems like there are far fewer face templates/archetypes to start out with, and I haven't personally noticed whether or not the game tweeks them on the pre-existing sims.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DrNerd on 2009 May 20, 02:11:34 ...I sort of want Zazazu's demon spawn for my Uglacy. I was gonna marry the next-gen spawnlet to an Ottomas-clone, but that kid has little piggy eyes and a square face and a mammoth jaw and a teeny little mouth... And this is somehow supposed to be a step UP from TS2? I mean, DAMN, I got alien kids in my game who look better than that, and they're seventh-generation Uglacy!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: maxon on 2009 May 20, 02:19:40 News is released about the first Sims 3 paysite (Sorry, Sims Store)
http://simmersnews.blogspot.com/2009/05/sims-3-store-set-prices.html Some comments on there hint that perhaps the reason there is little content in the game people are seeing is because EAxis cut it back to enable them to sell it via the Store. People are pissed. Not exactly a surprise to cynics here but perhaps an indication that the copy of the game we're seeing is the final copy. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 20, 02:33:52 As far as household switching goes... it's frustrating to lose wishes, yes. However, on the bright side, neighborhood saves are very small (25mb as compared to 500-1500mb in TS2, depending on buggy savegame bloating) and so it's very easy to start completely fresh and play new households. It's a simple matter of copy pasting a save, which you couldn't do previously.
So it doesn't really make up for it, but it might mitigate it a little... and since it seems losing wishes is a feature rather than a bug (they do tell you about it, after all) I think they could easily change that in the future. Who knows, maybe we can too? It does seem kind of a pointless "feature," I agree. I understand the pessimism, but I have to say I am rather pleasantly surprised. I find it enjoyable and after the initial shock (I hate how rotating with the mouse is so bloody slow) I think there's more to like than to dislike. That doesn't dismiss valid concerns, of course, but I am wondering if the disappointment is a bit inflated. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 20, 02:35:35 Cuddling in bed might also cause a freeze glitch. So far that's two I've found (the other being teaching toddlers to talk)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 03:03:53 @ Zazazu, did you see the father? Just wondered where those cheeks come from. Maybe she will grow to a descent teen? Hopefully. Oh, it's daddy's jawline. He's been around and is a coworker of the guy in the family I'm mostly playing. She and Nathan Finkle, my first intentional spawn, are best friends, so I get to see her all the time. She seems to also have the evil trait.The need for way too much sleep really comes into play with babies and toddlers. About halfway through the night, they get dangerously low on social, so you have to wake everyone up to cuddle the dumb baby. Also, game likes to set them to sleep until well rested. I noticed sleep need maxxed out at 6:30, but status was still "sleep until 8:00AM". Watching them is necessary, because it seems that if they had it the way they wanted, they'd sleep half the day away, all while the kiddies scream from loneliness in their cribs and work goes on without them. I miss macro-clean. Good discovery: you can get new applicable skills at new skill levels. At around level 3-4 mechanically, you can repair sinks, toilets, and showers to be self-cleaning. Then you can supe up stereos. Then can make ovens self-cleaning, and at 5(?) can make items unbreakable. With gardening, when you meet certain criteria, you get perks. At level 10, you can plant something called the omni plant. After 650 plants are harvested, your plants need less water. Information about unlockable skills is under the skills tab, in this button on the right called the skill journal. You can only see it once you've gotten a point in a skill. EDIT: Update on unrequested spawning: Keeping story mode enabled gives the same result. I went to check on that couple I'd made to figure out if I was having a bug regarding the romantic relationship trigger. They now have a toddler, and she's pregnant again. They hadn't even gotten busy when I left them. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 20, 03:09:47 I bet most of you haven't played around with community lots yet, but here's a small discovery I made today. All the rabbit hole buildings in town are available to build on community lots, meaning that you can totally customize the town. You can probably remove/move city hall and build a house where it used to be. Too bad you can't recolor anything yet. Still, this gives some interesting possibilities if we can eventually make our own rabbit hole/career buildings.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 20, 03:25:58 Some comments on there hint that perhaps the reason there is little content in the game people are seeing is because EAxis cut it back to enable them to sell it via the Store. People are pissed. Not exactly a surprise to cynics here but perhaps an indication that the copy of the game we're seeing is the final copy. Unfortunately that makes sense, at least when you look at how money-grubbing EA is. I know it's just a base game, but even so there's only a handful of actual meshes for each section... it's pretty weak, especially when you've gotten used to having tons of CC choices in TS2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyndon Baines Johnson on 2009 May 20, 03:41:36 Do we know if its the Beta or Final yet?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 20, 04:08:17 Do we know if its the Beta or Final yet? Nope. And as much as we can hypothesize, we won't know for sure until June 2, when dumbasses like me buy the thing and compare versions, etc. Or, you know, if EAxis tells us...not that we can trust them, of course. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 20, 04:24:47 Do we know if its the Beta or Final yet? Nope. And as much as we can hypothesize, we won't know for sure until June 2, when dumbasses like me buy the thing and compare versions, etc. Or, you know, if EAxis tells us...not that we can trust them, of course. Hello stupidity. Meet an answer several hours old already. if you check the .exe date, you'll notice that it's about april ! that's means the version around the net of ts3 isn't the final release, but probably and RC. (Release Candidate) So what you're saying is that EA has managed to discover a process where they can make modifications to the game up to the very minute it's put on shelves? Or perhaps you're just an idiot. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyndon Baines Johnson on 2009 May 20, 04:27:06 Anonymouse at Snooty has confirmed its the Beta version:
http://www.snootysims.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=29110 Rest easy, folks. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 20, 04:28:57 Snooty Sims is a pile of wank maybe? And your link fails you balls for brains, be more intelligent.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyndon Baines Johnson on 2009 May 20, 04:31:26 Here is a working link
http://www.snootysims.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=29046&start=440 Anoynmouses most is closer to the bottom end of the page. 3 cheers for anoymouse and his detective work! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 04:33:27 It's Snooty. They would remove it pronto. Snooty can be very BBS-esque.
Anonymouse at Snooty has confirmed its the Beta version: And who is Anonymouse? SBlade under another name? I trust nothing without credentials. .Exe date is in April, approximately 2 months before release date. Considering time for burning, packaging, and shipping, having a two month span between close and release is perfectly within parameters. http://www.snootysims.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=29110 Rest easy, folks. <reading updated link now, but I'm holding to my opinion so far> Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 20, 04:34:39 Just a bunch of wank from an anonymous source, most likely a shill or bootlicker trying to obfuscate the matter.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Khaleesi on 2009 May 20, 04:37:00 Aww we're all d-nozzles and Anonymouse is their god. Be more easily lead, sheep.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 20, 04:39:07 2 months is that all? If game puplishing is anything like book publishing I'm surprisied it's not much longer than that. In fact I take the evidence of 2 months as PROOF it's the real copy. Any shorter and I would be more wary of the file.
Printing 1 DVD doesn't take long, printing many thousands and installing them in cases, then distributing them? Now that takes time. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 20, 04:42:34 Anonymouse at Snooty has confirmed its the Beta version: Nobody knows for sure one way or the other until the official release - except in the extremely unlikely event that whoever cracked it steps forward to tell us where this was leaked from. All we have until then is speculation, and all Anonymouse is doing is speculating. Reading other posts by the same poster in that thread, it's clear that there is an element of wishful thinking in their speculation. They've expressed disappointment several times in that thread and they clearly want this to be the beta version instead of the final release, so they went looking for evidence to support the "beta version" theory but didn't look too hard for evidence to support the "full release" theory. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 04:45:51 Quoting for posterity, my opinions in bold:
Quote EVIDENCE: So...anyone who actually knows shit here have an opinion? The dev code stuff has me stumped.1. Empirical evidence. There are far too many obvious and strange bugs, that just don't make sense. The installation of the game doesn't even have any decent pictures, vids, information, sound, music, anything, no packaging at all. Installation of the last few EP were the same. As for bugs, have you played TS2? It's riddled. 2. It is unlikely that the gold master DVD's and printing press would not be under watch. It is far more likely that this DVD fell off the wagon to a Sims fan event. Same shit has happened time and time again with other titles. Leak is not surprising. 3. The file structure is whacky. There are many things missing. There is no finalized and presentable structure to the core game. I've no idea what he means here, but I suspect he's looking for a structure like TS2. It's already been decided that the game is scripted completely differently, most likely in C#. We knew ahead of time that they wouldn't be using the same format. 4. There are third party developer software files that shouldn't be there, like graphics, audio and code compiler logs and dependency files. Can't speak to that. 5. Some of the files are timestamped several months back. You're point? I'm looking at two other games I have on my D drive, full .iso's. I'm seeing widely different timestamps. These are HER Interactive games, but potato potahto. 6. File sizes make no sense. Package and cache sizes are too large, obviously meant to run on powerful developers computers (like mine <g>). I've no idea what you mean. We have evidence of people with middling computers easily running it. 7. It has SecuROM. And the wrong version to boot! Duh. No SecuROM cake was a lie. If you paid attention to the PR, they never actually stated it wouldn't have SecuROM. The only EA-adjacent person who said that was MaxoidDrea, who lost all credibility when BV hit the SecuROM fan. 8. Several announced fan event features are not present. This is par for the course. Same thing happened with TS2. Where are my fire-breathing toddlers? Look at some of the old TS2 gameplay videos pre-release. Features are present we never have actually seen in-game. 9. Graphics have since changed, or do not appear to be working right. For instance smoothing/antialiasing and filtering are not working as intended. Anti-aliasing does have an effect, but it is minimal. 10. The version, while labelled 1.0 in some description and help files which is probably what most people have opened, is in redundant files that should have been removed called Content.Devtest.1397 Changelist:622971. No idea what you mean. When games are created many different version are compiled tested. This game appears to have been compiled for the SOLE reason of testing content, that is, the textures, objects, sims etc. everything that goes into the game, and as such, it has to be one of the most stable and available tested builds... in other words it's not strange that people think it's the full game. There are just so many bizarre things and obvious bugs and missing features in it, that have long made me suspicious. I found this in three seperate descriptors and logs. description=Version: 0.DL-0.0.11190 Changelist: 624575 Version:1.TCC.dl.1209 Version:1.Content.Devtest.1397 Changelist:622971 TCC is a third party compiler. It shouldn't be there. No coder with any self respect would label a game devtest 1397. Nor would he put a changelist on it unless they needed one to refer to in order to see what was a bug and what wasn't. CompositorCacheSize = 104857600 SimCompositorCacheSize = 524288000 WorldCompositorCacheSize = 524288000 SimWorldCompositorCacheSize = 524288000 This is just wrong. Why are the caches so large? Why are the packages so large? Why are they encrypted in a non-standard format no modders recognize? It doesn't make sense... unless they're developer versions encrypted/coded in a format that they use for their software. And if there is not supposed to be custom content, why do we have this? Dumbass, we are able to share textures, which they have always called custom content in the interviews. EnableCustomContent = true ExportsFolderName = Exports ImportsFolderName = Downloads BackupFolderName = DCBackup PackageThumbnails = false PackageThumbnailsInSims3Pac = true DeleteTempExportFolder = true RemapCollisionsOnly = true Ladies and gentlemen, hope lives... we may see an even BETTER final version of this game, hopefully void of the problems and bugs, and a vibrant modder community to BOOST! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 20, 04:50:00 I want to believe, but I am out of Blind Belief tokens for today. :(
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 20, 04:54:45 I want to believe too, but not even my extreme F-liness can stretch that far. Logic keeps getting in the way.
3 x INFPs posting in a row, and none of us F-ly enough to believe it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 04:59:28 The guy doesn't even understand the different between a rar'ed file and an untouched one:
Quote The size of the game is also a bit out of whack. 5.6 or 4.8GB depending on which pirate version you download. Anyone have a clue as to why they're different? Yeah...Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: madamejeanie on 2009 May 20, 05:09:47 News is released about the first Sims 3 paysite (Sorry, Sims Store) http://simmersnews.blogspot.com/2009/05/sims-3-store-set-prices.html Some comments on there hint that perhaps the reason there is little content in the game people are seeing is because EAxis cut it back to enable them to sell it via the Store. People are pissed. Not exactly a surprise to cynics here but perhaps an indication that the copy of the game we're seeing is the final copy. A new level of disgust for me. This is flat outrageous. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tyyppi on 2009 May 20, 05:20:05 The only argument I have that the leaked version is a beta is that the Finnish translation isn't fully complete, although this being EA it doesn't necessarily mean anything. I just found it weird that Sunset Valley is Sunset Valley even in Finnish even though in Sims 2 all the neighborhood names were translated. Also some of the street names are in Finnish while others are in English. Also all the townies and pre-made families have "foreign" names while in Sims 2 they were all... err... "Finnished". But as I said this doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 20, 05:24:48 News is released about the first Sims 3 paysite (Sorry, Sims Store) http://simmersnews.blogspot.com/2009/05/sims-3-store-set-prices.html Some comments on there hint that perhaps the reason there is little content in the game people are seeing is because EAxis cut it back to enable them to sell it via the Store. People are pissed. Not exactly a surprise to cynics here but perhaps an indication that the copy of the game we're seeing is the final copy. A new level of disgust for me. This is flat outrageous. Not the first time EA have done this. It happened with the baby items that were initially going to be part of FT. There were pre-release screenshots of the objects in-game and Maxoid promises of "new objects for babies" in pre-release videos. But they were pulled from FT, and are now available in the Sims store. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 20, 05:25:08 Here is why the game sucks donkey balls as far as I am concerned, based on my massive play time of 2 hours-ish.
Most of the action in the game takes place only in the sim's head, aka the control panel with the wants and the moodlets. For instance, my sim got in a bad mood because she had a cold shower. The indication that this happened was that it popped up in her moodlets. Looking at her sim with the GIANT BLUR in the shower, I had no idea this happened. Later, she was talking to someone and was "humiliated". How do I know? The control panel told me. Her squishy cupcake of a face changed not one whit during the experience. Useless. Useless and boring. What am I supposed to do for 6 hours when she is at work? I tell you what I did, I knitted. Also, I figured out that "motherlode" works, so then we could fuck the job thing and go get humiliated by some more random townies. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Chain_Reaction on 2009 May 20, 05:25:34 and why the hell can't you make their eyebrows thicker or thinner? You can... Look in CAS. anybody else think that the torrent might not be the final build... or might be a developer/executive copy to show the big wigs at ea, i say this because it does seem awfully light on content and whatnot... Lol, you make me laugh. Google 'The Sims 3 Store' and get a clue. Ugh, my computer has crashed twice while trying to torrent it from Demonoid. Complete crash - I can't even restart, I have to turn the computer off and on again. I'm on Vista, using uTorrent and downloading from Demonoid. I use Windows Firewall and NAV 2009. Can someone troubleshoot this and figure out why this is happening? Sure, on the uTorrent support forums. Actually, when I tried to play another family, I noticed something strange. One of my sims, Hank Goddard, is woohooing his female partner in law enforcement but didn't have her in his relationship panel at all when I played his family, and in fact had a completely different woman listed as being his partner. However, when I went back to play his partner's family, all the relationships were still intact. :-\ Not sure what it means, but it doesn't seem to bode well. Surely EA isn't that stupid to leave a bug that major in the game... oh wait. I spent 2 days downloading this bloody thing and now I can't install it. I'm getting an error message like so: >SetupNew\setup.cpp(140) PAPP: PVENDOR: PGUID: $15.0.0.498 I am decidedly unawesome, so could anyone shed any light on what may be going wrong here? This is caused by trying to run the installer with winRAR, stop that! Extract it. ***contains virus*** The file Sims3Setup.exe is a self-deflating executable archive. It contains two files, the real "sims3setup.exe" and a file "codec.exe", the archive runs both when called by Autorun.exe. The file codec.exe is a virus dropper. I have found if, after you've extracted Sims3Setup.exe and you can't get it to open with winRAR, it is safe... it should give the error above. If it opens and you see the codec.exe in it, then you have the virus one. Another way to tell is the real Sims3Setup.exe is 389KB and has a file date of 4/23/2009 4:00AM Anyway, why does everyone recommend DAEMON Tools and mounting and all that? I leave mounting for the bedroom and open ISO's with winRAR. It works perfectly fine. I played for several hours last night and these are my impressions so far: Good: It loaded really fast, I expected to be waiting for years with a neighborhood like that. You can use stuff in your inventory by clicking on it now rather than having to drag it into the world first. Male bulges are bigger. (yeah yeah, I'm not lusting after computer people, I promise) Traits are pretty awesome but I feel like there could be more. Switching between fullscreen and windowed mode in game options is total win. The needs seem to still matter as much as they did in Sims 2 (so they lied) which I was worried about. I know it may get tedious after awhile but this is what the sims is about for me... they do seem to take care of them better now which is good. Males have underarm hair! I'm so used to them being ken dolls. The neighborhood is great, the rabbit holes look good, it's all decorated nicely and looks good. I like the way build/buy mode is layed out. No loading screens is awesome! I also love the way the town feels alive and sims are everywhere. New grave designs are win. Moodlets are win. What they did do with CAS was a step in the right direction but I don't think they stepped far enough. Bad: The tutorial was really really messy and unorganized. Your sim wants to buy a couch! Well la de da! He already has a couch dumbass! What's with only 4 premade houses that aren't being lived in? I couldn't find anymore... They said you could make ANYONE (look! another lie!). I spent 2 hours trying to make myself, studying a picture and all, and didn't come THAT close even after messing around with all the sliders. A few of the sliders even seem pointless as the change they make is very subtle. Where the hell are male nipples? They are very very ill defined. When I make a sim chubby, their thighs are 10x bigger than their lower leg which looks so odd. People with a good sense of humor don't go around 'making silly face' 10 times a day EA. The global aging and story progression settings are fail. They should be lot specific. The switching households and losing wishes isn't a big deal to me. I agree with people, it's hard to kill the redundant round face shape. Why can't I place lots empty lots where I want? Step backwards. I don't like how they pop in and out of cars, what's wrong with opening the door? I saw two cars drive right through each other, fail! There needs to be more clothing and definitely hairstyles, and not in TS3 Store either. I still have the extreme urge to kill townies. One rang my door bell and I invited her in. What did she do next? Throw away the unprepared dinner I was working on that I stopped to let her in. Kill! Thumbnails of sims don't really look like the sim to me. They look even more clayish and silly in them. Why can't I have a simple list of destinations? I don't want to jump to map view and back to send them somewhere. And there's too many damn icons, It takes me forever to find what I want. Buildings don't get their model and render till you let go of the mouse. I understand this was done to prevent lag while scrolling but if you're making a story, it could be suckage as a house suddenly goes from a low quality blurry building to clear as you're moving the camera through town. Overall I think it has a lot of potential but the question remains if EA will send it in the right direction. I love the neighborhood moves on and is alive (but the clock on city hall doesn't move!) and everything feels much more detailed. I want a setting to stop some sims from aging and going on about their life while I'm not looking but if I don't get it, I may get use to it. The way it's made now, they seem to have cut story tellers out a lot. I think custom content ability has been extremely cut down. It looks like they locked up the game so you can only use stuff from the exchange / sims 3 store... I can't even find a option to package my sim to a file. This one might turn out not be as modable as sims 2 is and that's going to piss a lot of people off, me included. You even have to install that EADM to install patches it said. DNW! I predict a lot won't give up Sims 2, me included. This seems really fun but really restricted which is going to hurt the replay value of it a lot. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 20, 05:33:19 I want to play this trainwreck for myself- you guys have piqued my interest- but I foresee myself going back to Sims 2. The amount of bugginess described is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Frankenbeasley on 2009 May 20, 05:38:26 No. Demon child is definitely the genetic daughter of Ms. Schmoe. She has the same hair color, down to the subtle blue streaks. She also is extremely ugly. (http://i40.tinypic.com/1zvvgqd.jpg) Holy shit! Ms. Schmoe appears to have been raped by Diesel 10 from Thomas the Tank Engine! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kellinjar on 2009 May 20, 05:45:58 Quote Or, you know, if EAxis tells us...not that we can trust them, of course. Its quite apparent this is the final version. If it wasn't EA would be telling people that to save their ass. People are complaining about this version and if it wasn't the real version, they'd be telling people that so that people don't form a judgment. If they lied they'd be called on it. So the fact that they haven't said anything means its the final version. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Frally on 2009 May 20, 05:51:45 Quote I spent 2 days downloading this bloody thing and now I can't install it. I'm getting an error message like so: >SetupNew\setup.cpp(140) PAPP: PVENDOR: PGUID: $15.0.0.498 I am decidedly unawesome, so could anyone shed any light on what may be going wrong here? This is caused by trying to run the installer with winRAR, stop that! Extract it. Actually, no. Read my next post. But I appreciate your "can-do" attitude. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Papercut on 2009 May 20, 06:03:01 Most of the action in the game takes place only in the sim's head, aka the control panel with the wants and the moodlets. For instance, my sim got in a bad mood because she had a cold shower. The indication that this happened was that it popped up in her moodlets. Looking at her sim with the GIANT BLUR in the shower, I had no idea this happened. This is something I've been worrying about during the whole pre-release propaganda stage. All the talk of rabbit holes and texty "missions" at work made it sound like they're moving further away from visible "watch it unfold" gameplay. They've been going in this direction for a while now - the lamecore tours you don't get to watch in BV, etc. If something happens in my game I want to see it. Or imagine it. I don't want to be notified by a pop-up or read a description. Otherwise I might as well be playing a text-based RPG. Also, I doubt TS3 will hold my attention for more than a few months if modding is severely restricted. Hacks are the only thing that made TS2 playable. Curse you, EA! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 06:22:22 Quoting for posterity, my opinions in bold: Developers leave turds in game files all the time. TS2 itself is full of such turds dating back to TS1. At least half of the crap in TS2 is either vestigial or nonfunctional redundant crap. This is mostly related to the fact that they simply decide it is not worth budgeting time and money to removing detritus from files, because it's not their hard drive space that's limited, anyway.Quote Ladies and gentlemen, hope lives... we may see an even BETTER final version of this game, hopefully void of the problems and bugs, and a vibrant modder community to BOOST! So...anyone who actually knows shit here have an opinion? The dev code stuff has me stumped.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kaoz on 2009 May 20, 06:25:34 No. Demon child is definitely the genetic daughter of Ms. Schmoe. She has the same hair color, down to the subtle blue streaks. She also is extremely ugly. (http://i40.tinypic.com/1zvvgqd.jpg) Holy shit! Ms. Schmoe appears to have been raped by Diesel 10 from Thomas the Tank Engine! That's gotta be the most disgusting looking sim I've ever seen. I'll take the ugly baby syndrome from TS2 then these silly putty lookin' mawfuckaz anyday. The more I see screen shots of this game the more I wanna gouge my eyes out with a rusty screwdriver. I've played Nintendo 64 games that had better looking game models then this. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Vanni on 2009 May 20, 06:35:13 To be fair...the female doesn't look too bad.
And most of the models in game I've seen haven't been too fugly. It's the damn kids that are just eye bleachingly horrid. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: gyrobot on 2009 May 20, 06:44:19 Well, finally got a chance to witness the horror, I was quite mortified they gotten rid of the hot tub. Oh well, at least we can wait for the countless expansions we have to pay for to iron out the kinks and add more borkings. Though I wonder what level I got to be to eat dim sum
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Vanni on 2009 May 20, 06:49:09 Okay all, just found my screenshots folder...cause I'm special in the head like that. Anyhow, I only took one picture so far apparently. <.<
It's of the family I created Kyson (the dude in the medical uniform) and Shinari Moonrider. This was taken when I had left them alone one night. He apparently wanted to watch TV and she decided she wanted to read a book. I thought they looked interesting together and took the shot. Enjoy. (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/Vanni127/th_Screenshot-4.jpg) (http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/Vanni127/?action=view¤t=Screenshot-4.jpg) Edit: It is a clickable thumbnail. Didn't want to take up your entire screens. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 06:58:30 This is something I've been worrying about during the whole pre-release propaganda stage. All the talk of rabbit holes and texty "missions" at work made it sound like they're moving further away from visible "watch it unfold" gameplay. In action, it's actually more involved than TS2 careers. In TS2, they go off but you don't see where they are. In TS3, you do see where they go (big whoop), but can determine how they spend their day. As they move up the career set, more proficiencies are needed. In the beginning, you just need a good mood. Then, a good mood and relationships with your boss/coworker. Then skill proficiency. At about halfway through, Abraham had to choose whether he would follow the rock star fork or the symphony fork in the music career. Since his LTW required symphony, that's what I chose, but he then had a whole new set of coworkers to befriend. They've been going in this direction for a while now - the lamecore tours you don't get to watch in BV, etc. If something happens in my game I want to see it. Or imagine it. I don't want to be notified by a pop-up or read a description. Otherwise I might as well be playing a text-based RPG. You'll get opportunities that pop up from careers that you can choose to do or ignore. Doing them almost guarantees a promotion. Sometimes it's as simple as "take this report here". Sometimes you have to read a book before work, or learn a song, or do some sort of activity like playing in the park for tips. The same goes with part-time jobs, though they only seem to have the standard three levels. You can get higher wages by completing opportunities. For skill opportunities, I've only seen mechanical and gardening ones. Those seem to always be given over the phone, so you have to make sure to always answer cell phones. Rewards are usually monetary (which you need, money does not flow freely in TS3), though one I couldn't complete due to my current lay of crops would have given a new type of seed. The career and opportunity set-up is fantastic and is half of what I knew I would like, along with the traits. So far, those are two for two. Unfortunately, everything I thought I wouldn't like is also living up to expectations. Two pics. I'll post more to a Photobucket album tomorrow so as to give updates to those who want it, but it's really late here: (http://i39.tinypic.com/2ppyb00.jpg) Demon child as teen. She looks permanently pissed off. I really like her personality, though. Evil rocks. (http://i39.tinypic.com/2dt16ol.jpg) The two Finkle kids, who are much more normal looking. Note the odd hair on the boy: doi! CAS setup for the mom transferred to offspring. Genes seem to be equally weighted, which does make sense when you are picking eye color from a color wheel. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 20, 07:02:26 I LOVE that the weird hair colors are genetic. That is orsum.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vecki on 2009 May 20, 07:05:53 I may have to get the fiance to arrquire this for me (he is much more adept at arring than I). Seeing screenshots is one thing, but I suddenly have the desire to experience THE HORROR for myself.
In one respect, it might work nicely if I feel the need to play Legacy style. Let those sims kill themselves off! Oh, that reminds me: do townies respawn to replace those who have kicked the bucket? I remember reading in one of the plethora of L&P that they would, and this idea made me sad. Then again the fiance arrquired Splotch for me months ago and I still haven't gotten around to testing it out. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: MaximilianPS on 2009 May 20, 08:02:44 if you check the .exe date, you'll notice that it's about april ! that's means the version around the net of ts3 isn't the final release, but probably and RC. (Release Candidate) So what you're saying is that EA has managed to discover a process where they can make modifications to the game up to the very minute it's put on shelves? Or perhaps you're just an idiot. what i say is that "The Creation Date Of the .EXE FILE is About APRIL" so, if the game will be released in June that date is too far ! or ... maybe you aren't so smart to undrestand the EAxis marketing tactics :P - this is, for sure, a far version from the gold version. - gamecopyworld haven't actualy a noDvd solution for that game, and this can be another confirms about the ambiguity of this version - i know a guy that build cure for GCW and what he says about this version is that is a bit too far from the release date to be the gold one, and a site like GCW patch only the released games. so that's why I THINK, this isn't the final release. BTW i wonder WHO THE FUCK U R to spit your crap on me Fly low and connect the brain to the finger before post. thnx :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 20, 08:45:31 Anyone who thinks this version isn't the release version can keep dreaming IT IS. The file date doesn't mean crap. If you finish work on file x long before the release date and it doesn't need changing why would you touch it any further? And naturally they need about 1-2 months before the release date to package it together, send it off and get it mass produced.
I've found some bugs but overall i gotta say the games pretty stable and quite enjoyable. You don't have to answer your phone for opportunties i NEVER answer the phone and the popups come up anyway as soon as it stops ringing. Some of them are pretty easy and good paying. I had one to upgrade a shower and got paid 1,250 simoleans for it. If you really want money though you should go with the criminal career. My girl is constantly swiping stuff while at work usually nets around 1k each time. I had one lucky time that she stole some statue worth 12k as well as a smaller one worth 1k. While working there's also the option to do a side job you can rake in a couple hundred bucks from that as well. I still haven't worked out the kleptomanic trait it seems odd to say the least. The option to swipe stuff seems to pop up randomly and only ever in the middle of town. You can't pick what they swipe either. I should mention that the criminal career gets you the sneak interaction although it seems pointless as you can't steal stuff. I haven't seen any fugly npcs so far they've all been pretty good looking as well as their spawn. I did find it odd that the kid i booted to the neighbourhood had a kid without giving me notification. I would have thought it would mention such a close relative having a kid. Oh the save before having a kid doesn't seem to work anymore. Tried it like 8 times and got a boy everytime. First two pregnancies were both boys. Next generation on i got a girl as i wanted but ended up with twins. I think they might be identical but it's hard to tell since their only toddlers alot can change. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 20, 09:23:36 Well, I played the game too, and surprisingly I like it very much. Still, there are some huge things that bug me.
The biggest one so far, is that sim can go from fat to thin and from week to strong in one workout. But even more, they return to their genetic weight in half a day. I read about returning to your genetic weight and created chubby sim, so there will be a need to workout. I send him to workout on day 1. Next day he eats one, ONE pancake, and here he goes chubby again :( I just hope that this wil be fixed somehow by patch. Or this will be my number one want hack. Another thing that really bugs me is planning hairstyle. In Sims 2 you could go to the mirror and plan hairstyle to every clothe style right away. In Sims 3 you can have separate hairstyle with every clothe SET (which you can have 3 per style), but you have to be wearing that set when you use the mirror to change hairstyle for it. I want to preplan. And I want to do it the easy way, damn it. Of course there are also little annoyances, like I can't expand catalog to see twice amount of objects like I did in Sims 2. And apparently you can't move paintings up/down the wall. Please tell me I missed this option. And as a little treat, so you won't think it's that bad: My own little FortNox: (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/Blackcat007/Screenshot-7-1.jpg) Apparently butterfly cages are stackable, hurray: (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/Blackcat007/Screenshot-5-1.jpg) Photo made by my sim of his first not burned food, and his goldfish Alvin: (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/Blackcat007/Screenshot-8-1.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 20, 09:47:46 Great pics. The food looks nice. Sorry no moving
EDIT: I have been up too long. Going to sleep now. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 09:52:15 The biggest one so far, is that sim can go from fat to thin and from week to strong in one workout. But even more, they return to their genetic weight in half a day. Heh, I suspect this was made to have sims that stay looking the way we made them look, rather than undergoing gross physical changes and then never reverting back, because, frankly, there's no such thing as "genetic weight". There is a genetic baseline fuel consumption, but none of this provides WEIGHT. Nobody can become fat when there is no food. Those who are fuel-efficient are more predisposed to becoming fat when fed the same amount as normal people, but fuel efficiency is not the same as genetic fatness.I read about returning to your genetic weight and created chubby sim, so there will be a need to workout. I send him to workout on day 1. Next day he eats one, ONE pancake, and here he goes chubby again :( I just hope that this wil be fixed somehow by patch. Or this will be my number one want hack. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 20, 09:55:25 I found a lovely bug didn't notice it earlier. On sims that are born the last trait you pick does not show up in the sim panel or more to the point i don't think it saves it. Not sure if it affects all sims or its just a random occurance.
Edit: Alright i think i know the cause and a way to fix it. Cause as far as i can tell is having the simology panel open when you pick traits. The way to fix it is to NOT have that panel open when you pick traits. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 20, 10:17:24 The biggest one so far, is that sim can go from fat to thin and from week to strong in one workout. But even more, they return to their genetic weight in half a day. Heh, I suspect this was made to have sims that stay looking the way we made them look, rather than undergoing gross physical changes and then never reverting back, because, frankly, there's no such thing as "genetic weight". There is a genetic baseline fuel consumption, but none of this provides WEIGHT. Nobody can become fat when there is no food. Those who are fuel-efficient are more predisposed to becoming fat when fed the same amount as normal people, but fuel efficiency is not the same as genetic fatness.I read about returning to your genetic weight and created chubby sim, so there will be a need to workout. I send him to workout on day 1. Next day he eats one, ONE pancake, and here he goes chubby again :( I just hope that this wil be fixed somehow by patch. Or this will be my number one want hack. Well, I can live with this whole process of reverting back, just don't want it to happen THAT fast. I t would be alright if say my sim will workout three day in a row, finally become fit, then won't workout three days and become chubby again, similar to sims 2. Right now all this happens in a matter of hours, literally eliminating the need to workout, cause what's the point, if sim will be fat again tomorrow. And with the rate sims get tired in this game it’s almost impossible to workout everyday and still have time for something else. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 20, 10:48:27 and why the hell can't you make their eyebrows thicker or thinner? You can... Look in CAS. Where?!? There's a bunch of eyebrow options (under the Eyes I think), but no thickness. Also, sims can't buy new clothing/plan outfit now, can they? ETA - Also, everything we make gets sent to the evil Launcher (sims, clothes, screenshots...). Screenshots are easily accessible, but what about those other things? If I run the launcher, it'll give me securom, huh? (Also, I unplug my internets just in case. It's not like anything at all could run while TS3 is running. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 20, 11:12:33 From what i played yesterday i had some opportunities pop up, but i didnt get any for the third space. Has anyone got any for this and if so what were they? That seems to be for community lot-based opportunities. I was in the beach while a chess tournament was going on, and the Opportunity to play in the tournament went into the third slot. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Gelina on 2009 May 20, 11:44:36 I've only played the game for about 1-2 hours, but I have a few annoyances. I miss finding out information about my sim - like how fat are they on the fat scale? Also, I have no clue how long pregnancies last or how to tell if mine is almost done. Maybe there are icons or buttons that I'm missing somewhere (God knows there are enough of them), but it just seems like there is less info overall. Also, babies need a lot more attention and stay babies for 3 days and toddlers for 6 - ick.
Too bad there isn't a prima guide that was also leaked. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 11:47:44 and why the hell can't you make their eyebrows thicker or thinner? You can... Look in CAS.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TrapperJohn on 2009 May 20, 11:54:57 I have a weird question. Would it be at all possible, some time in the future, to extract meshes from TS3 for use in TS2? Of course they won't behave the way they do in TS3, and I can imagine there would be fixing of code required, but would it for example be possible to make those pretty tree- and shrub meshes work in TS2 as original objects?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 11:58:30 There is no technical reason why they can't be, although you may have to rescale and remangle them.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 20, 12:11:02 and why the hell can't you make their eyebrows thicker or thinner? You can... Look in CAS. Where?!? There's a bunch of eyebrow options (under the Eyes I think), but no thickness. If you go under Hair and choose Eyelashes and Eybrows, they have a bunch of different thicknesses of eyebrows. Then you can go under Eyes, choose the Advanced option, and click on the eyebrow to adjust the height, curve, and ... something else, I forget. Not thickness. So you should start with an eyebrow of the thickness you desire, then modify it for shape and placement. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 20, 12:13:10 I have a weird question. Would it be at all possible, some time in the future, to extract meshes from TS3 for use in TS2? Of course they won't behave the way they do in TS3, and I can imagine there would be fixing of code required, but would it for example be possible to make those pretty tree- and shrub meshes work in TS2 as original objects? I don't think the trees and shrubs will look nice in sims 2. Basically, they are a set of polygons, that always turn their face towards you as you move the camera. By this they actually make up the lack of detalisation. In sims 2 they can't do this, and so will look strange and poor. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 20, 12:15:58 You can use any mesh in any Sims game, it just has to exported and imported the right way.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 20, 12:24:37 and why the hell can't you make their eyebrows thicker or thinner? You can... Look in CAS. Where?!? There's a bunch of eyebrow options (under the Eyes I think), but no thickness. If you go under Hair and choose Eyelashes and Eybrows, they have a bunch of different thicknesses of eyebrows. Then you can go under Eyes, choose the Advanced option, and click on the eyebrow to adjust the height, curve, and ... something else, I forget. Not thickness. So you should start with an eyebrow of the thickness you desire, then modify it for shape and placement. Ah, yes. Good thing there is a roundabout way, but it would be nice if they included that simple, little option. Thanks! So, what about getting sims a new set of clothing, is it possible? And the launcher? We shouldn't run it, right? (I could further investigate the clothing thing myself, but I'm in a lazy/busy mode to actually start the game. If someone already knows a simple answer it would be nice to hear it.) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 12:41:29 If you go under Hair and choose Eyelashes and Eybrows, they have a bunch of different thicknesses of eyebrows. Then you can go under Eyes, choose the Advanced option, and click on the eyebrow to adjust the height, curve, and ... something else, I forget. Not thickness. So you should start with an eyebrow of the thickness you desire, then modify it for shape and placement. It's not so elegant, though. The eyebrows themselves define the SHAPE of the eyebrow. The male and female analogues have entirely different versions that do not appear similar. As a result, you get some WEIRD, FUCKED UP SURPRISES when you breed them or flip them. The effect is much like Buttolino nose syndrome, only it happens for ALL bodyparts. Before you commit a sim, particularly a male sim, I suggest you flip it over to female just to check what the "analogue" face is. This is where the fug comes from.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cynconzola on 2009 May 20, 12:47:55 Long time lurker here, I haven't arr'g the game, don't intend to for personal career reasons, but have a few questions for those of you who have;
1. does it look possible to replace all ea made sims with ones I make myself? 2. is the merge option in this version? I had read earlier reports that we should be able to merge the saved games into one another. I thought this would give us the ability to make our game more like ts2's saving lots. 3. advertising? any signs that the game we buy will be overwhelming with billborads etc.? 4. testingcheatsenabled - is the option for "set to birthday" there? if so, if aging is off, can you age up the sims you are playing? thanks cyn Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 12:50:16 1. does it look possible to replace all ea made sims with ones I make myself? No. EAxis will make more.2. is the merge option in this version? I had read earlier reports that we should be able to merge the saved games into one another. I thought this would give us the ability to make our game more like ts2's saving lots. There's no such thing as a "merge saved games", but it appears the game MAY be more tolerant of attempting to export sims between neighborhoods. All friends will be lost, but without memories, there may be less detritus following you around.3. advertising? any signs that the game we buy will be overwhelming with billborads etc.? I have not seen any attempts to phone home on my firewall, so if there's any advertising, I'm not seeing it.4. testingcheatsenabled - is the option for "set to birthday" there? if so, if aging is off, can you age up the sims you are playing? Yes. In fact, that's the ONLY OTHER OPTION THERE. Testingcheats is really a misnomer now, it doesn't enable anything testy, it's purely woolprop.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TrapperJohn on 2009 May 20, 12:58:38 I don't think the trees and shrubs will look nice in sims 2. Basically, they are a set of polygons, that always turn their face towards you as you move the camera. By this they actually make up the lack of detalisation. In sims 2 they can't do this, and so will look strange and poor. OK, I sort of suspected it might be a "trick". Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kralore on 2009 May 20, 12:58:41 After 9 long years (since Sims 1) Sims can FINALLY watch tv from any angle. :o This has always been one thing that irritated me .
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2328/screenshotr.th.jpg) (http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotr.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 20, 13:15:21 4. testingcheatsenabled - is the option for "set to birthday" there? if so, if aging is off, can you age up the sims you are playing? Yes. In fact, that's the ONLY OTHER OPTION THERE. Testingcheats is really a misnomer now, it doesn't enable anything testy, it's purely woolprop.Actually Pes, Shift-Click the mail box... More options. Shift-Click the ground you can teleport. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 20, 13:16:58 A few random thoughts:
Hats separated from hairstyles in CAS - FINALLY. But since when do simple braids or a ponytail constitute a hat? Also, I thought the advent of create-a-style would mean the end of having to scroll through thirty-seven screens of the same damn hairstyle, the only difference being the color of the barrette. Ditto for outfits; I want ONE of each model displayed, and I can take care of my own colors and patterns, 'kay thanks. Of course if they did that it would be even more obvious that we only got fifteen actual outfits with the game. Add some more hate for the round faces. I like to make sharp-faced, pixielike Sims; the best I could do here was vaguely heart-shaped. So not impressed. Some of the buildings on the map don't seem to have flags. My test Sim had rolled a few wishes to take Handiness classes and gain skill. It took me forever to discover the unmarked army base in the lower left corner of the map that housed the classes. One thing that initially amused me but is getting old: the test Sim has the Evil trait, and whenever I click on an object, I get "Take Evil Shower", "Fiendishly Eat Quick Meal", "Evil Dance", etc. As far as I can tell, the actions aren't done any differently than the regular kind, so why the distinction? It just seems silly. Overall, I'm enjoying myself, though I'm not sure how entertaining it will be once the shiny rubs off, especially if mods are out of the question. I guess we'll see. Oh -- one thing that made me laugh. I had a burglar show up on the lot and just as he was getting ready to walk in, my neighbor raced over from her house, beat the piss out of him, and drove him off. Awesome. ETA: That was metaphorical piss. No actual pee was involved. It occurred to me that, being a Sims game, I should clarify. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 20, 13:17:12 After 9 long years (since Sims 1) Sims can FINALLY watch tv from any angle. :o This has always been one thing that irritated me . YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! Bene! :D Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Caz on 2009 May 20, 13:26:46 An update on the random death of Kaylynn:
I cannot find her gravestone, not in her house, nor in the cemetery, and I slowly scrolled around Sunset Valley trying to find that dratted gravestone, but to no avail. I even looked in the inventories of the other residents of her home and nothing. (Speaking of the household sims, none of them were grieving for her. Heartless bastards.) So, while it may seem cool for a Sim to get randomly killed off without warning on another lot, you may have a very hard time finding their gravestone, if ever. Not too good if you want to make them a ghost Sim or take them to the cemetery. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 20, 13:34:01 So, what about getting sims a new set of clothing, is it possible? I haven't bought any, but "plan outfit" is available with the dresser/wardrobe, so it seems like it should be possible. And the launcher? We shouldn't run it, right? Do not run. Ever. I set up my shortcut to go straight to the cracked exe, bypassing launcher. (I could further investigate the clothing thing myself, but I'm in a lazy/busy mode to actually start the game. If someone already knows a simple answer it would be nice to hear it.) Lazy ass. :P But you've always been helpful to me (to many, actually), so I'm happy to reciprocate. :) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 13:37:25 An update on the random death of Kaylynn I think this may actually be the behavior of the game culling an overpopulated hood. There is no actual lightning in the game. Anywhere. It's just making up excuses for why it decided to delete a sim.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: X-Phile on 2009 May 20, 13:59:46 I'm just stupid. When you throw a party you can select everything. :-[ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 20, 14:01:15 My thoughts on the Horror, after getting hypnotized by the shiny for most of the night and nearly failing to make dinner or go to bed in a timely fashion. ;D
*I really like the super fast load time. Even base game TS2 didn't load this fast. *I REALLY miss macrotastics. *I made a morbidly obese family of four. Dad with a bad temper. Overly emotional mom. Nerdy boy. Toddler clutzy girl. Took a really long time to get the couple to the point where they wanted to woohoo/try for baby, but I finally got her preggers. \:D/ So far, the boy is best friends with Bella (take THAT, Mortimer!)[/li][/list] *The CAS options were a little bit strange to work with. Where are the face sliders (if any) hidden? I kind of like the pattern swatches, but some of them are hard to tell what they are from the swatches. *LOVE that shoes are seperate. Also, SOCKS! No more wearing sneakers without socks for my simmies! *After being used to going places with my sims, I'm finding the rabbit holes kind of strange. Here's hoping they'll open those up in future packs. I even wouldn't mind going to work/school to see what's going on. I do like the fact that you can tell them how to behave at work/school. *I like that kids can make simple meals for themselves, or have leftovers from the fridge. Spoiled food is kind of annoying, though. *I like that you can tinker objects to make them do other things, like self-clean, prevent-fire, etc. *I'm not sure I understand yet what you need to do to get promotions at work. *Will the toddler NOT drop to sleep on the floor? Stop whining and do this! *I like giving them different voices, and choosing how long the lifespan will be. *I REALLY MISS MACROS! *The kid does his homework on his own. Is that because he has the ambitious trait? *I don't really care about the only one family at a time thing, because I tend to play a single family til I get sick of them and then make another and neglect the originals. It'd be nice if they went on with their lives. ;) *Buy mode didn't really take long to get used to. Sure, it looks way different, but it's not un-useful. *Reading to toddlers is REALLY CUTE :D *Macro/clean is SORELY MISSED. I kept trying to use it and then remember it's not there! *Toddlers can leave the home lot. This is nice. I need to explore the hood more to find out what is there for toddlers to do. *We definitely need to be able to provide/procure new clothing and hair meshes. *How do you take screenshots? I gotta look around more and figure this out. *Custom eyes would be nice. *Can we PLEASE get rid of the mosaic?! *I also miss my sim wardrobe auto bill payer. I had the repo guy show up because I was too busy to pay bills :P Quote from: Pescado you don't REALLY want to get women with HUGE EYEBROWS, either. I might. ;) I might also want bearded ladies and unibrows!The weekend can't come fast enough for me. There's only so much you can dive into in these short spurts. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 20, 14:05:05 *Where are the face sliders (if any) hidden? There's a button for Advanced on each of the appearance screens. It opens the screen with the sliders. For some, it also has a picture of the face area with circles on it. Click the circle to get the slider for that individual piece. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: noretus on 2009 May 20, 14:18:21 Moar points of interest(?)
Newborns are now selectable and you can see their needs. Toddlers' motives seem to dimnish about the same rate as adults ( no more 2-hour naps every 2 hours ). Babies/Toddlers got Social need that goes down fast even while they sleep. Toddler's cry is about 137% more annoying then in Sims 2. It also seems to wake up the whole house if the baby is desperate enough ( stop telling me how to live my Sims EA ) Sleeping is HARD! If you let your Sims baby go to motive failure over energy, what does it do when it gets to a crib? Sleep? OH NO! It starts wailing it's little lungs out and all your Teen+ Sims will proceed to swarm it )(&")=#(/=)¤("/¤=)(&=) FUCK. You can adjust the brightness of the lights ( low - med - high ) per light, per room or all. This is pretty nice. Walking is HARD. Sims have much more trouble getting around each other like I mentioned before. I hadn't yet noticed just how much 'personal space' they need. They do wait and dodge each other but it takes a lot of time to do so. Brats generally do their homework on their own and aren't quite as pissed off about it as in Sims2. I also miss Macrotastic :( Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 20, 14:42:41 *Where are the face sliders (if any) hidden? There's a button for Advanced on each of the appearance screens. It opens the screen with the sliders. For some, it also has a picture of the face area with circles on it. Click the circle to get the slider for that individual piece. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: bowrain on 2009 May 20, 14:54:34 I don't know if this has been posted before but what is wrong with this?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2liyioh.jpg) Is it my graphic card? Also, once I bought a bike and then a sim came over and he had a blank icon and when I hovered over the action icon it read "default unallocated come and see action" or something like that. Can't remember the exact wording. Perhaps it's a glitch or maybe it is an earlier build. :P I don't know. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 20, 14:58:00 My crack doesn't seem to be working for this game. I generated the code, used it for registration, and now the game keeps asking me to enter it again and it won't accept the code. Does any one else have this problem ot knows how to fix it? Also try checking the comments on the torrent, if you torrented it. For some reason the one at demonoid had a lot of complaints about the keygen not working properly (although it worked fine for me) so it's possible other people have encountered the same thing. Has anyone figured out how romantic relationships work? I've been trying like hell for about 20 sim days to get two sims engaged, and although they have the option to "try for baby" I can't find ANY kind of proposal option. Also, I think there must be some kind of a "boyfriend/girlfriend" relationship since both sims are living together but are considered single, but for the life of me can't figure out how to get that one to come up either. Way to make the simple things bizarrely complicated, EA. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 20, 15:01:10 I don't know if this has been posted before but what is wrong with this? Is it my graphic card? It almost looks to me like it's his reflection on the water, but I can't really tell from the picture. Did you look at it from the front and it looked the same way? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 20, 15:02:22 I don't know if this has been posted before but what is wrong with this? That happens to my sims as well, any time you look at them from behind the sim, out over the water.(http://i39.tinypic.com/2liyioh.jpg) Is it my graphic card? Also, once I bought a bike and then a sim came over and he had a blank icon and when I hovered over the action icon it read "default unallocated come and see action" or something like that. Can't remember the exact wording. Perhaps it's a glitch or maybe it is an earlier build. :P I don't know. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: bowrain on 2009 May 20, 15:08:22 I don't know if this has been posted before but what is wrong with this? Is it my graphic card? It almost looks to me like it's his reflection on the water, but I can't really tell from the picture. Did you look at it from the front and it looked the same way? No it's fine from the front. It's like it's a problem with the way the game renders the water. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 20, 15:25:05 Interesting thread on Snooty: http://www.snootysims.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=29100
No way of knowing if the OP is making it up though ... pics or it didn't happen! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 20, 15:31:53 That Snooty thread is funny. Now they're saying "This glitch PROVES it's a beta!".
Heh, I have three words for them: original jump bug. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 20, 15:36:17 *How do you take screenshots? I gotta look around more and figure this out. Camera icon on the interface. It's at the bottom of the all the buttons. And unlike TS2, you get nice, large screenshots. Quote *Can we PLEASE get rid of the mosaic?! What, you mean you don't like that giant floating eyesore? Seems it'll be more complicated than a console cheat this time, though. Quote *I also miss my sim wardrobe auto bill payer. I had the repo guy show up because I was too busy to pay bills When the pop up notifications bug you that you only have one day left to pay your bills, there is a "pay bills now" button there--if you click it, your bill will automatically be paid and you don't have to send someone to do it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 20, 15:37:20 I don't get why people are saying you can only play one family per hood? ...The reason for this is the family now has to live it's own life while your away so any wishes promised must be handled by them not you. There is the answer to your question. We object to things happening outside our control (where sims are concerned). They do things when we're not playing them, the bastards. In TS2, they would stay reasonably static until you went back to them. We liked that (for the most part, I mean, and not meaning to speak for all MATY at all, nope). If I create a sim, I don't want him dying on me without my intervention while I'm off playing another house (or getting married, or having babies, or buying a car, or burning down the kitchen yet again, or getting some hopeless job, etc.). I guess, considering everything, if I play TS3 for any extended period, I will have to get used to it though, or play the enforced legacy style. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: spaceface on 2009 May 20, 15:38:23 That Snooty thread is funny. Now they're saying "This glitch PROVES it's a beta!". Heh, I have three words for them: original jump bug. When does betting open on how soon a patch is released? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 20, 15:41:24 The reason for this is the family now has to live it's own life while your away so any wishes promised must be handled by them not you. This is the bit that the control-freaks amongst us (myself included) DO NOT WANT. We DO NOT WANT them to live their own lives while we're away playing other households. We want them to mark time (a la Sims 1 and Sims 2) until we get back to that household's turn to be played again. We WANT to lock in some wishes and come back later to fulfil them next time we play their household, not have them go off and take their lives in totally different directions to those we've planned for them. We want to play them, not watch from a distance as they live their own lives - I already have a TV I could watch if that was what I wanted. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jonas on 2009 May 20, 15:49:26 I don't have the game. I have two questions:
1. Townies. I know they come back. Does anyone see a way to eliminate them or at the very least prevent them from breeding? (Aging them prematurely,Getting rid of males)? They have homes right? Can their homes be deleted? There must be some way to destroy the townies. Can we kill their offspring at child ages? 2. The awful one family per neighborhood thing. What happens if you set your family/neighborhood on a long life span/slow time? Would it be easier to play more than one family this way without having your unplayed family get all fishbowled? I am hating the one family bit, but I feel strongly that there might be a cheat that allows families to be paused that we don't know about yet. Please oh please let this be a beta. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 20, 15:49:58 *I also miss my sim wardrobe auto bill payer. I had the repo guy show up because I was too busy to pay bills :P TS3 mostly eliminates the need for it. If your bills are unpaid, a popup will appear. Hit Yes, and they will instantly be paid, no sim will be queuestomped for the action.Quote from: Pescado you don't REALLY want to get women with HUGE EYEBROWS, either. I might. ;) I might also want bearded ladies and unibrows!Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 16:09:04 I've only played the game for about 1-2 hours, but I have a few annoyances. I miss finding out information about my sim - like how fat are they on the fat scale? Also, I have no clue how long pregnancies last or how to tell if mine is almost done. Maybe there are icons or buttons that I'm missing somewhere (God knows there are enough of them), but it just seems like there is less info overall. Also, babies need a lot more attention and stay babies for 3 days and toddlers for 6 - ick. Pregnancies seem to be the standard three days, with one day before they realize they are pregnant. However, maternity days do not show on the UI and you have absolutely no way to go to work during them as it will tell you that your shift doesn't start until Xdays, Yhours.Try moving a sim in buy mode while being up close on them. It's freaky. They move their heads. *I'm not sure I understand yet what you need to do to get promotions at work. Look at their career tab. On the right side, you'll see one or more smiley/frowny faces. There's probably one for mood. That one's obvious...go to work in a good mood. There may be others that will have a very short description, like "boss" or "coworkers" or "charismatic". There will be a pop-up when you mouse over to help you know how to fulfill those.Press C for screenshots. Tab for camera mode. Those controls are all the same. Another album, about 27 pics. (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/ZazazuAbubu/TS3%20previews2/) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rhayden on 2009 May 20, 16:26:46 if you check the .exe date, you'll notice that it's about april ! that's means the version around the net of ts3 isn't the final release, but probably and RC. (Release Candidate) So what you're saying is that EA has managed to discover a process where they can make modifications to the game up to the very minute it's put on shelves? Or perhaps you're just an idiot. what i say is that "The Creation Date Of the .EXE FILE is About APRIL" so, if the game will be released in June that date is too far ! or ... maybe you aren't so smart to undrestand the EAxis marketing tactics :P - this is, for sure, a far version from the gold version. - gamecopyworld haven't actualy a noDvd solution for that game, and this can be another confirms about the ambiguity of this version - i know a guy that build cure for GCW and what he says about this version is that is a bit too far from the release date to be the gold one, and a site like GCW patch only the released games. so that's why I THINK, this isn't the final release. BTW i wonder WHO THE FUCK U R to spit your crap on me Fly low and connect the brain to the finger before post. thnx :P I don't think you understand how pressing a CD works or what the term "going gold" means. I don't think you have any idea of what's really going on except you are intent on sucking up to EA. You should note that bootlicking goes over pretty badly here and neither does being a flaming moron. Enjoy your self-delusion, feel free to come back in a month or so when you get your "final" version and we will be glad to P&L at you. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Genlisae on 2009 May 20, 16:27:42 2. The awful one family per neighborhood thing. What happens if you set your family/neighborhood on a long life span/slow time? Would it be easier to play more than one family this way without having your unplayed family get all fishbowled? For me, slowing ageing actually made it harder to play more than one family since the ageing slows for the current household only and the rest of the neighbourhood moves on at a "normal" rate. Other options that seem like they would help the control freaks among us like lowering the autonomy level also seem to be for the current household only. Turning off story progression on the other hand doesn't seem to work at all as expected. For some it seems it doesn't work at all while I am finding it only works sometimes and not others. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 20, 16:33:10 *I also miss my sim wardrobe auto bill payer. I had the repo guy show up because I was too busy to pay bills :P TS3 mostly eliminates the need for it. If your bills are unpaid, a popup will appear. Hit Yes, and they will instantly be paid, no sim will be queuestomped for the action.AND, as I discovered this morning, you have plenty of time to stuff all of your furniture/wall hangings into family inventory before the repo man actually gets there. This leaves him with nothing to take and unlike in TS2 he doesn't taunt you for being poor. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 20, 16:49:50 2. The awful one family per neighborhood thing. What happens if you set your family/neighborhood on a long life span/slow time? Would it be easier to play more than one family this way without having your unplayed family get all fishbowled? For me, slowing ageing actually made it harder to play more than one family since the ageing slows for the current household only and the rest of the neighbourhood moves on at a "normal" rate. Other options that seem like they would help the control freaks among us like lowering the autonomy level also seem to be for the current household only. Turning off story progression on the other hand doesn't seem to work at all as expected. For some it seems it doesn't work at all while I am finding it only works sometimes and not others. The aging slider seems to work fine for me. I haven't checked toddlers/babies, but I've been playing my current family for about 20-30 days, and I checked some of the premades. Kaylynn is a teen, but that's because on the 960 days age setting, she has about 20 days left to teen. And Mortimer and Bella are both still children. If the aging was household only, I'm sure they'd all be older by now. I could be wrong though! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: tizerist on 2009 May 20, 16:53:56 What can you do in terms of changing the way the town looks?
You can't place new lots. Theres no hood deco. Is it only the lots themselves that can be modified then? Can you extend lot sizes? What about the trees on the grassland - if they're not hood deco, can they at least be moved? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 20, 16:56:29 So Kaylynn Langerak is really a teen? What is she meant to be in TS2 then? A cougar? 8) Actually, I can totally see that.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Phoebe on 2009 May 20, 17:04:32 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/Tikkall/Screenshot-2.jpg?t=1242837561)
"No chairs? The toilet is the next most logical place to eat!" Seriously though, I didn't have a dining room set and she went upstairs to eat on the toilet, WTF? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SimKat on 2009 May 20, 17:05:58 Oh goody looks like they released a CAS Demo for the Apple stores,but you have too play it in store only.Also S.Africa is getting thier game May26th.Wonderful. ::)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 20, 17:07:40 Phoebe I think that is trait based, either inapropriate or insane. Maybe a combination of the two.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 20, 17:08:05 So Kaylynn Langerak is really a teen? What is she meant to be in TS2 then? A cougar? 8) Actually, I can totally see that. Nope she starts off as a child with the base neighborhood. But she's not all that far away from teen, and she is one in my neighborhood currently. And Bella and Mortimer aren't. Which means according to Sims 3 timeline, Kaylynn is actually older than Mortimer and Bella. O.o Kinda strange. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 20, 17:08:20 Hi. Does anyone know where are all the sims from screenshots and marketing?. i cant find them. Maybe in the downloadable neighbourhood?
In general im enjoying the game. i also use to play just one house, so no problem with that. One thing i find strange: all the watches, rings, etc, are just for one hand?? The blur is just untolerable. Some blur for the parts isnt enough?? (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4906/screenshot4.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4.jpg) I find the CAS powerfull, you can create extreme sims: (http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9881/screenshot6i.th.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot6i.jpg) With TAB you can go anywhere! (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3252/screenshot9o.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot9o.jpg) Have a nice day! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 20, 17:10:45 Netich that is not an extreme sim. Have you seen some of the mutants you can make in TS2? Fire up body shop and have a look for yourself!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 20, 17:11:48 Alternatively, just grow up Tessa Ramirez...
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Phoebe on 2009 May 20, 17:16:16 Phoebe I think that is trait based, either inapropriate or insane. Maybe a combination of the two. This particular sim has the traits: Genuis, Artistic, Ambitious, Friendly, and Computer Whiz. In the house all I have is a stove, fridge, bed and bathroom. Maybe someone can see if they can replicate? I don't think it's trait based as the sim doesn't have any bad traits... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 20, 17:16:46 Phoebe I think that is trait based, either inapropriate or insane. Maybe a combination of the two. I don't think so, at least not those traits. I had the same experience as Phoebe did. I assumed that it was because of a lack of chairs in the house. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 20, 17:18:58 In general im enjoying the game. i also use to play just one house, so no problem with that. One thing i find strange: all the watches, rings, etc, are just for one hand?? When you click on the watch/ring/whatever, does an arrow appear at the bottom-left of the thumbnail? Try clicking that. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 20, 17:20:06 Well the toilet as a chair, must just be the crappy chair coding which the FOJ has explained in more detail.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 20, 17:20:46 Oh goody looks like they released a CAS Demo for the Apple stores,but you have too play it in store only.Also S.Africa is getting thier game May26th.Wonderful. ::) I bet the Beatniks will love that... all those rabid Sim fans taking up their display computers for the next two weeks. Because Apple stores aren't busy enough normally. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 20, 17:23:56 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/Tikkall/Screenshot-2.jpg?t=1242837561) "No chairs? The toilet is the next most logical place to eat!" Seriously though, I didn't have a dining room set and she went upstairs to eat on the toilet, WTF? That's funny :-) Honestly, if I didn't have a chair or a couch, I might be inclined to use the toilet as a chair, but I'd put the lid down first. Doesn't look like she did. I'd probably be more likely to sit on the bed or the floor, though. I'd do any of those three before I'd eat standing. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 20, 17:25:27 Well the toilet as a chair, must just be the crappy chair coding which the FOJ has explained in more detail. Mr. Evil just sat on the edge of his tub to drink some juice. The toilet/tub sitting is amusing. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: MATYfraggle on 2009 May 20, 17:28:13 Please don´t beat me, if this was answered before.
In my options menu it is not possible to use the life span slider. Is this a bug or am I just clueless? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 20, 17:30:17 Yes it's funny a couple of times, a bit like TS2 "What's this?" was ok a couple of times. But more than that it gets really annoying, especially in this case as you are occupying the toilet so are preventing sims from peeing before you can equip them with singularity kidneys. Most of the new behaviours are ok, but once you play for any length of time they get frustrating and you want to kill your sims... which is hard as they have insane amounts of immunity to most influences. They can climb out of pools with no ladder, it takes 3 days to starve to death etc.
@ fraggle: Probably a bug. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 20, 17:36:39 In general im enjoying the game. i also use to play just one house, so no problem with that. One thing i find strange: all the watches, rings, etc, are just for one hand?? When you click on the watch/ring/whatever, does an arrow appear at the bottom-left of the thumbnail? Try clicking that. Hey! thanks for that. I was thinking in the sims in ads not being in the game. Why do EA create all this characters (Magnus, kim, marcela, the render girl) and doesnt put them in the game? Maybe it is a beta after all... ??? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 20, 17:40:57 I was thinking in the sims in ads not being in the game. Why do EA create all this characters (Magnus, kim, marcela, the render girl) and doesnt put them in the game? Maybe it is a beta after all... ??? MJ Chun confirmed that many of the characters in the ads will not be in the game. Apparently she wasn't too happy about it either. Interview here: http://sims3nieuws.blogspot.com/2009/05/sims-3-nieuws-exclusive-interview-with.html Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ApplesandOranges on 2009 May 20, 17:44:29 Hi all.
If you guys would like to see some screenshots I've taken, take a look at my PB account. I took quite a few! http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/KETCHUPanyone/Sims%203/ I gotta say, the Sims themselves look like clay-models. I took my Sim to the Cinema and Diner and I couldn't go inside. She goes in and you just hear noises, that's it! You can go inside the gym though...pfft. I thought that was pretty lame, eh? The objects are indeed very lousy and like it's been said already, very limited. :-X Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: originalhalf on 2009 May 20, 17:47:01 I just can't get past how ugly they are. Aside from that and a few other concerns folks have expressed, it does look like it's at least worth a free trial and I've been chained to the brand since the beginning so resistance is futile. However, the ugly really is killing my must have it NAO drive normally associated with the Sims.
Please more screen shots. Maybe the ugly will grow on me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 20, 17:48:28 Hi all. I couldn't sign-up/register under ooblushy88oo, it wouldn't take for some reason, so I chose this one. ::) I can see why you'd be disappointed that ooblushy88oo wouldn't take. It's clearly a highly desirable name. Yes, most of the community lots are just empty boxes. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: tessieroo on 2009 May 20, 17:49:24 >:( So I'm hearing that there are community lots that you can't edit? You can't buy/build any changes to those lots? (In fact, you can't even lower the walls to see inside?) Examples given to me where a lot named "Little Corsican Bistro". I thought we were supposed to be able to follow our Sims inside stores & restaurants? Can someone who has it up & running confirm this?
So if EAxis has somehow fucked up doors or placement of things on those lots, we can't fix those things. FAIL. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: theresatv on 2009 May 20, 17:52:13 There is debate as to whether this is a beta or the final release. Some people seem to be declaring it to be one or the other with a quasi-religious fervor without offering much in the way of evidence. On this subject I am agnostic. I haven't installed any of the Sims 2 games before at least the second patch was released because EA's original releases are all somewhat boned, however, some of the issues I'm hearing about are pretty dire even for EA. Perhaps if we look at the available evidence calmly and rationally, we may be able to determine the probable status of this release instead of having some sort of Dinesh D'Souza/Christopher Hitchens kerfuffle that will determine nothing.
These things we know: EA announced that the game had gone "gold" on May 8. The date for the .exe file on the DVD for Apartment Life is July 26, 2008. The release date for Apartment Life was nominally August 25, 2008. NOW... What is the actual date of the .exe file of this release, and what is the latest date on any of the included files? All I have heard on this is that the date on the .exe is "about April." Although EA's work isn't always tight as a Swiss watch, I can just about guarantee that the file date is not "about April." Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 20, 17:54:09 Several comm lots you can't see inside, in fact I think it might be all of the speciality comm lots (where you work etc) You arrive, click the door a window pops up, you do whatever then click ok and leave. A large amount of the game is just about text boxes, the actual gameplay feels like its been reduced down to a text based game which so happens to have a graphical interface.
Oh and there is no debate on if this is a beta version, those who think it is are stupid. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ApplesandOranges on 2009 May 20, 17:56:09 I can see why you'd be disappointed that ooblushy88oo wouldn't take. It's clearly a highly desirable name. I guess so. ;) >:( So I'm hearing that there are community lots that you can't edit? You can't buy/build any changes to those lots? (In fact, you can't even lower the walls to see inside?) Examples given to me where a lot named "Little Corsican Bistro". I thought we were supposed to be able to follow our Sims inside stores & restaurants? Can someone who has it up & running confirm this? So if EAxis has somehow fucked up doors or placement of things on those lots, we can't fix those things. FAIL. Tessieroo, I don't know about the editing in buy/build mode but so far when I've taken Sims to restaurants and the movie theatre, they went inside but I couldn't follow them in. They go in and you just hear clatter/noises and you have to cancel the que and then they come out. >:( Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: tessieroo on 2009 May 20, 17:59:27 Thanks Aner-Dyfan. What a big pile of shit. >:(
It really sounds too much like the Stories series they put out. Lost interest in that once I got all the way thru. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 20, 18:02:56 I just can't get past how ugly they are. Aside from that and a few other concerns folks have expressed, it does look like it's at least worth a free trial and I've been chained to the brand since the beginning so resistance is futile. However, the ugly really is killing my must have it NAO drive normally associated with the Sims. Please more screen shots. Maybe the ugly will grow on me. Moody made two very nice-looking Sims last night, one with a quite passable resemblance to himself. (Well -- himself at a distance, anyway). I'll see if he'll let me post pictures this evening. Of course, he's an artist, and all his Sims have always looked awesome, from TS1 onward. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 20, 18:05:45 Oh and there is no debate on if this is a beta version, those who think it is are stupid. But I am holding my breath for the next two pages of posts on this thread, so that we can see the next "there are rumours that this is a beta" post. I can see why you'd be disappointed that ooblushy88oo wouldn't take. It's clearly a highly desirable name. I guess so. ;) MATY will not accept stupid usernames with numbers in them. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 20, 18:06:11 There is debate as to whether this is a beta or the final release. Some people seem to be declaring it to be one or the other with a quasi-religious fervor without offering much in the way of evidence. I honestly fail to see the point in dredging this topic up again. In thirteen days, one side will get to do the I-was-right-and-you-were-wrong dance on the basis of irrefutable evidence; there's no point in arguing over rumors and speculation until then. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 20, 18:13:33 I have a little question.
In Sims 2 when you went through CAS or used a mirror you could check, uncheck or scroll through options pretty fast. For example while browsing blushes or hair, you could just click, click, click and preview was available right away. That was not the case with accessories. You had to click, wait while game updates and shows you a sim in glasses, then choose another glasses, wait again and so on; or when you scrolled though pages of glasses. That's why I rarely used them and never downloaded anything for that section. Now in Sims 3 I see that behavior with everything and especially CAST. Now the question: Is this behavior depends on how fast computer is, and with strong enough one you won't notice this, or, like with glasses from sims 2, will always take a little bit of time? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 20, 18:16:08 As someone who is definitely not gonna play a vanilla sims game, I am throughly enjoying it. Lots to explore and do, makes me ignore the little fugly maggots. I haven't played enough to figure out all my dislikes, tho I do miss macrotastics and ACR, but it's not all bad. Just wish my sim would stop wanting items with a 50% chance of getting the points. She could use those points.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/mailchaser40/Pictures%201/ScreenShot091.jpg) (http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/mailchaser40/Pictures%201/?action=view¤t=ScreenShot091.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: MuertoElBarto on 2009 May 20, 18:20:50 I can see why you'd be disappointed that ooblushy88oo wouldn't take. It's clearly a highly desirable name. Yes, yes, it is. I reserved ooblushy88oo years ago, in case my initial account was ever trashcanned, and I needed a sock. Tough luck; you can't have it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 20, 18:34:40 Im currently toying with a family and have tried the farming route. But there are one thing driving me up a wall, so now I come here begging for help.
I have managed to find most plants, including the omniplant that is mentioned when you level gardening skill to 10nd the flame Fruit bush. But where in sweet heaven have they hidden the money tree? Has anyone found one of those yet? In advance thank you very much, for any and all assistance rendered. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 20, 18:38:31 Here's a strange quirk related to the new way genetics work in Sims 3. Make a girl, preferably toddler, and then give her a twin. Make the twin a boy. Now guess what happens when the boy ages up? Yep, they get girl hair. You can change it, but you won't be able to get it back. I'm sure it works the other way around, too. And I'm sure this will continue to haunt the poor lad through every following age advance. Sigh.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 20, 18:42:42 I am a control freak, so I am not enjoying all these pre-mades growing up and dying without me. However, I can confirm that it appears that changing the life span is indeed global. I think this will be the way forward for me since I don't want my sims doing stupid things without enough life left to correct them.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kytyngurl on 2009 May 20, 18:50:42 Opinion thus far:
The good: Like the lack of loading screens, and the fact that the whole 'hood is free for your sims to explore. I rarely sent my sims out in 2, as it was so slow. The ability to make woods, colors, and patterns match is nice. I wish they did that ages ago. Like some of the CAS modifications, and that hats have their own category. Like using objects in your inventory. Very nice. I saw a guy using his laptop at the beach. Sim to Sim interaction seems a bit more realistic or at least enjoyable to me now. The ability to have various weights makes everyone a lot less same-y. No ape-faces on the townies thus far. The trees, ground, some bushes, and a few other things look great. Love the traits! The bad: The sims all look... off. Even the skinny ones look like one of those aged celebrities who put too much silicon into their faces. Also, playdoh. The graphics don't seem all that much of a step up from Sims 2. Still some jaggies, and some things look pretty much the same as they did in 2. Not enough stuff in Buy Mode and CAS. More on this later. Everything looks kind of dark to me. Doesn't seem like there is all that much to do, but this might mean I need to spend more time playing it. Lots of bugs, sounds like. Though I haven't encountered one... yet. If they are not going to allow custom content/mods/hacks, then that's a deal-breaker. All those sliders in CAS, and yet still everyone looks the same. The pathfinding seems just as retarded as ever. Does it really need to take 3 RL minutes for two sims to figure out that, yes, they are going to throw a ball? Sounds like they broke genetics. Ugh. I DNW ugly babies/kids. The iffy: Not sure about the enforced Legacy thing yet. I like townies aging, but DO want to maintain strict control over my families. Fast Forward seems to only last as long as the action you put it on. Not used to the control scheme yet. Hard to get around town. Moodlets... meh. Overall: My experience with this game is being really influenced by how little there is in it, and the knowledge that EA again will attempt to rape us all with EPs, Stuff Packs, and Sim Store Stuff. I've followed this game since Sims 1... and I am tired of giving EA huge sums of money for a few freaking bread-crumbs. There needed to be more things from 1 and 2 in here. A LOT more things. Hobbies, for instance. And weather. Perhaps pets. Those were all great things that need to be a base-game, not an expansion pack. I don't want to buy a 'Nightlife' EP for a third time, or a 'Pets' one, or whatever thing they are going to re-hash. I guess I'll play the game a bit more, and will await more news. Until then, color me pretty underwhelmed. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 20, 18:59:23 Quote from: jello When the pop up notifications bug you that you only have one day left to pay your bills, there is a "pay bills now" button there--if you click it, your bill will automatically be paid and you don't have to send someone to do it. I don't remember seeing this pop-up, but I might have been distracted at the time. ;)Quote from: tngrspacecadet When does betting open on how soon a patch is released? The day after release. ;) I got five on it. :PQuote from: Pescado Revise: You don't want that unless you are doing it DELIBERATELY. It would be lulzy if it randomly showed up, though. Like Don Juan Trepie's nose. ;)Quote from: Zazazu Look at their career tab. On the right side, you'll see one or more smiley/frowny faces. Ah, so I know that his second smilyface had to do with his boss, so maybe he should do a little sucking up or something. :) Also, good to know that C is still the snapshot taker. I hadn't tried it yet, but I'm going to tonight. :3LOL That picture of the sims protesting with the NO BUGS signs really make me chuckle. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 20, 19:14:58 Hey, just mentioning this again...
This is in response to Pes' comments about testingcheatsenabled: While shift-clicking a sim only give two options, grow up and change traits, shift-clicking on the mailbox will give more options, including set career, force visitor, force npc, make friends, know everybody, etc. Also, Shift-Click on the ground and you can teleport anywhere in town. Shift-Clicking on sims from other Families allows you to add them to yours. Just mentioning this again. Also, anybody know how to get the UI into screen caps? I can't find the option and the Show UI option under video only does it for video... :( Please help. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 20, 19:23:55 I have just thought of something. Because the hood is all joined up, there will be no such concept as teleporting in neighbors and holding them hostage on your lot by making them selectable until they have helped you play out some scenario - they'll just make a run for it. No prisons or schools.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 20, 19:25:28 I have just thought of something. Because the hood is all joined up, there will be no such concept as teleporting in neighbors and holding them hostage on your lot by making them selectable until they have helped you play out some scenario - they'll just make a run for it One might have to build a fence around them, I suppose, which makes playing out a scenario difficult. Hmmm. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 20, 19:28:26 Quote from: vcpink Also, anybody know how to get the UI into screen caps? I can't find the option and the Show UI option under video only does it for video... Sad Please help. Print screen button on your keyboard. :PTitle: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 20, 19:31:03 Quote from: vcpink Also, anybody know how to get the UI into screen caps? I can't find the option and the Show UI option under video only does it for video... Sad Please help. Print screen button on your keyboard. :PThere is an option, at the same screen as other capture options, to include or not include UI. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LauraW on 2009 May 20, 19:33:36 Last night, while the Sims 3 was downloading, I played Kudos 2, a game I really enjoy. Then today, I played Sims 3. The similarities are remarkable. In fact, other than the fact that you move your Sim around rather than stare at an avatar on the screen and you reproduce, its almost exactly like Kudos with some enhancements. I wonder of the maker if Kudos received some money for this? Even the avatar smiling when she is happy or frowning when sad is from Kudos. I am waiting for the snowfall and snowball fights...oh, but we don't have seasons yet, do we? :)
The person who said this was like a text game is correct. I like Kudos so will probably be okay with this but it isn't the same game as Sims 1 and Sims 2. It very much feels like a strategy game rather than the toy, as Pescado calls it, that we had with Sims 2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 20, 19:52:54 It's still a sandbox, but it's a sandbox where you only have ONE molding bucket and your brother is dangling all the other toys and not letting you have them.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ciane on 2009 May 20, 19:59:41 Here are some random thoughts from a lurker...
I think the lack of objects shouldn't be too big a hindrance. Won't it eventually be possible for the community to put all the TS2 object meshes into the TS3 game? EA has obviously used the TS2 object files and offers us more TS2 objects for the TS3 in the EA Store. Someone who is awesome enough will find a way to add the existing TS2 object meshes (which obviously exists, as noted by the mere fact that the EA Store exists). Finding out how to replace some of the existing textures with ones that we might find more pleasing would, of course, also be awesome. Rather than play a family for a whole day, might it be possible to rotate play quickly enough from one family to another that the wants are still there when you return and they didn't have time to get in trouble or go astray? My thought is that one could play one family just long enough to queue some actions and then jump to another family to queue actions there, etc. If you return to the original family in a few hours, rather than in day or so, will the want you have promised still be there or resurface; or, will it be gone and not pop back up in a short time? (After running through the hood and setting up everything initially, I'd settle in with whichever family seemed the most interesting at that time and lurk there for a few hours; but I would like to check up on the others occasionally. Basically, I'm wondering if the wants might reroll as they do in Sims2.) I also wanted to say thanks for all the detailed pictures and impressions of the good, the bad, and the ugly. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 20, 20:02:27 Last night, while the Sims 3 was downloading, I played Kudos 2, a game I really enjoy. Then today, I played Sims 3. The similarities are remarkable. In fact, other than the fact that you move your Sim around rather than stare at an avatar on the screen and you reproduce, its almost exactly like Kudos with some enhancements. I wonder of the maker if Kudos received some money for this? Even the avatar smiling when she is happy or frowning when sad is from Kudos. I am waiting for the snowfall and snowball fights...oh, but we don't have seasons yet, do we? :) The person who said this was like a text game is correct. I like Kudos so will probably be okay with this but it isn't the same game as Sims 1 and Sims 2. It very much feels like a strategy game rather than the toy, as Pescado calls it, that we had with Sims 2. The crap that is SimSocial on Facebook IS Kudos. I couldn't believe it. I presume the game developer of Kudos had something to do with that, otherwise... :o Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 20, 20:04:36 Rather than play a family for a whole day, might it be possible to rotate play quickly enough from one family to another that the wants are still there when you return and they didn't have time to get in trouble or go astray? My thought is that one could play one family just long enough to queue some actions and then jump to another family to queue actions there, etc. If you return to the original family in a few hours, rather than in day or so, will the want you have promised still be there or resurface; or, will it be gone and not pop back up in a short time? (After running through the hood and setting up everything initially, I'd settle in with whichever family seemed the most interesting at that time and lurk there for a few hours; but I would like to check up on the others occasionally. Basically, I'm wondering if the wants might reroll as they do in Sims2.) As soon as you decide to play a new active family, it warns you the wants will be gone from the current one. There's no constant source of wants either, sometimes you have more than enough, sometimes none. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LauraW on 2009 May 20, 20:20:05 I didn't mean Sim Social, I mean the actual Sims 3 game. I went to the bookstore, clicked on it, and it asked me if I wanted to shop. I clicked that I did, my sim disappeared inside and a catalog of sorts opened so I could shop. It was just like Kudos 2. I honestly do not see a lot of difference in the basic game play...going to a restaurant, getting traits from friends (I talked to a guy and gained 'friendliness' or something like that. Sims 3 is more about time management and strategy. You even get happiness moodlets, just like doing things raises happiness in Kudos.
I suppose you could ignore all that and just play like in Sims 2, but I have a feeling you would have a miserable Sim and he/she would show you how miserable he/she was. I think we are going to have to pay attention more to what the game tells us our Sim wants. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 20, 20:42:11 There's no constant source of wants either, sometimes you have more than enough, sometimes none. They're supposedly prompted by a combination of your LTW and the environment. Thus, a sim who wants to reach the top of the symphony branch of the music career will get a want if he hears someone playing music, but not if he's sitting at home eating dinner with his wife. A sim who wants to raise 5 kids to teen, however, might get a want at home -- to woohoo, have a baby, etc. In other words, the seeming lack of wants in some cases and overabundance in others may be another "feature" intended by EAxis. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: devilsrope on 2009 May 20, 20:42:48 Has anyone found a way to make roof sections of differing angles? Seems to be all or nothing, but maybe I missed something there. Also, I read that constrainfloorelevation wouldn't be available; it is, although with an unfortunate side effect. The ceiling texture isn't lowered with the wall height, and continues to float above. It's only viewable from below (see mid-construction pic). Stupid EAxis.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/th_cfefail.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/?action=view¤t=cfefail.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 20, 20:44:32 getting traits from friends (I talked to a guy and gained 'friendliness' or something like that. That's not you "gaining" the trait, that's figuring out the traits of the person you're talking to. When you meet people, you have no idea what their traits are at first. And gradually you learn more and more of them the more you talk to someone. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lerf on 2009 May 20, 20:50:50 Doubt I'll download it as I'm in my late 50's and I'd like it to finish downloading before I'm too senile to know what it is.
So, can someone answer a question? Is it possible to wipe the neighborhood clean and start over with a new family\families? I realize that it will spawn nameless random horrors on its own but I'd just like to know if there's some way to get rid of the original neighborhood. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: IAmTheRad on 2009 May 20, 20:53:20 How the heck do you change the active family without restarting the entire game?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: devilsrope on 2009 May 20, 20:59:30 Please don´t beat me, if this was answered before. In my options menu it is not possible to use the life span slider. Is this a bug or am I just clueless? The option is greyed out if you click the "..." on the neighborhood chooser. Enter the neighborhood, then go to options. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 20, 21:02:33 So, what about getting sims a new set of clothing, is it possible? I haven't bought any, but "plan outfit" is available with the dresser/wardrobe, so it seems like it should be possible. It's never too late to reply :D Thanks! I spent quite a bit of time around all community lots trying to find a place to buy clothing before I popped the stupid question. It never occured to me to check the most logical place - the wardrobe ::) I like how they did it. And the launcher? We shouldn't run it, right? Do not run. Ever. I set up my shortcut to go straight to the cracked exe, bypassing launcher. Yeah, me too, but I'm so curious what's in there. I loved Sporepedia, so sad they put the catch-all-content thing in a stupid launcher! >:( How the heck do you change the active family without restarting the entire game? Click the three dots button, then 'Edit nhood', and the option 'switch active household' will appear. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ciane on 2009 May 20, 21:08:05 Thanks Blue Soup. I had read that the wants didn't stick or weren't locked when you left to play another family. I just wondered if they would pop back in again a while after returning or if they were gone for good. If they are influenced by a certain occurance, such as listening to someone play music in the square, then I guess that want wouldn't pop back up again until strolling to the park or maybe listening to music on the radio.
I'm curious about another thing. Do the sims stay in their normal clothing while pregnant? There is no more changing into pregnancy clothes? That is an improvement. Also, I noticed in one snapshot that a single sim moving in had 16,000. Does a larger family get more money or the same amount as a single sim made in CAS? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: IAmTheRad on 2009 May 20, 21:09:32 How the heck do you change the active family without restarting the entire game? Click the three dots button, then 'Edit nhood', and the option 'switch active household' will appear. [/quote] They did it a horrible way. I hate it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Roux on 2009 May 20, 21:13:08 I'm curious about another thing. Do the sims stay in their normal clothing while pregnant? There is no more changing into pregnancy clothes? That is an improvement. My not-really-a-self-sim changed clothes when pregnant, and "plan outfit" wasn't available on the wardrobe anymore. It's annoying, but the 2 pregnancy outfits I saw were more varied and somewhat less fugly than TS2 default maternity wear. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Honeywell on 2009 May 20, 21:19:02 Did anyone else notice an inventory wipe after switching house holds?
I was trying to figure out how to get a "romantic interest" to move in, get married, engaged... anything really besides fuck buddy. I switched the active family to see if I'd have better luck playing that side, I didn't of course. But when I switched back to the original family, as expected, the wants were all gone but so was their entire inventory. I'd think that losing actual possessions (all that collectible crap they're so keen on) would merit a warning too. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 20, 21:21:26 Also, I noticed in one snapshot that a single sim moving in had 16,000. Does a larger family get more money or the same amount as a single sim made in CAS? They get more. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 20, 21:24:18 Did anyone else notice an inventory wipe after switching house holds? I was trying to figure out how to get a "romantic interest" to move in, get married, engaged... anything really besides fuck buddy. I switched the active family to see if I'd have better luck playing that side, I didn't of course. But when I switched back to the original family, as expected, the wants were all gone but so was their entire inventory. I'd think that losing actual possessions (all that collectible crap they're so keen on) would merit a warning too. Oh no! I think I checked inventory after switching and I think it remained intact. I *think*. Shouldn't collectible crap be kept in a skill panel or some other totally unexpected place? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 20, 21:26:05 It happened to you too Honeywell? I thought maybe someone stole it, but yeah all of the stuff in one of my sim's inventory,
including some rare butterflies, a bunch of seeds, expensive books and a guitar, were missing also after I created a new sim. I looked every where on the lot and in the family inventory, but nothing was there. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 20, 21:27:41 I created an entirely new game and transplanted my family from my other save, and they still had all their inventory when I checked on them. On the other hand, I've heard other people saying they've lost inventory as well. Probably some kind of retarded bug -_-
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 20, 21:32:33 Did anyone else notice an inventory wipe after switching house holds? Same just happened to me, for the first time in about 10 switches. And it only happened to one sim out of a family of 4. But her guitar and song books were gone. I also keep getting a bizarre and creepy glitch with young adult aged Bella Goth; when she's lying or sitting down, even in the bath, her body keeps almost 'jumping' into a standing up position for a second. Then she goes back to how she was. A few seconds later, she jumps up again. It's creepy and god damn irritating. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 20, 21:39:52 I've also noticed this inventory problem. My main sim only had one object in her inventory, but it was gone after I switched back to her household. Damn irritating, too, since it was the most expensive laptop and she has the computer whiz trait.
I was trying to figure out how to get a "romantic interest" to move in, get married, engaged... anything really besides fuck buddy. This takes for bloody EVER. Maybe it had something to do with my Sim's traits or something, I don't know, but my Sim had the option to "try for baby" long before she had the option to "ask to be boyfriend" or whatever the option is. I was beginning to think they'd be elders by the time they got engaged. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 20, 21:40:20 Had a bit of trouble starting at first- COMODO would do it usual "I don't recognize this program, is it safe to let it do X Y and Z?" routine, but that would for some reason lock up everything. Once I got it set to let the damn game run (but not connect to the internet!), it started up fine. Anyone else have this issue?
You guys weren't kidding about the load times- the seamless neighborhood is amazing. The interface, however, is a pain in the ass. Why include a beach if Sims can't swim in the ocean? Bikes are something that should have been added to The Sims a long time ago. It needs MOAR furniture badly. More hairstyles would be nice, too. So would more clothes, but the lack of furniture and hair options hurts more. New CAS would be great if it weren't for the whole Puddingface thing. The sliders don't seem to have a huge effect the way they did in TS2. There's too many premades taking up the good real estate, and I'd bet deleting them's as much of a Bad Idea as it was in TS2. If Sunset Valley is Pleasantview in the past, why didn't they name it Pleasantview? I haven't played much yet so much as I've mucked around in CAS- more observations forthcoming, probably. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tacuitacitum on 2009 May 20, 21:41:24 Did anyone else notice an inventory wipe after switching house holds? If Sims are able to switch jobs and breed behind your back like people are saying they are (I don't doubt, I just haven't tried this yet myself) then it might be reasonable to assume they might dump their inventory somewhere stupid, sell it or bin it and so on. That most certainly is a DNW. Is it possible that EA will deliberately change or update the May 5th release so that saves and so on made with this release won't work with the actual release, or that "well, it's not the final game that was leaked!" ? Or is it too late for them to do that by now? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mootilda on 2009 May 20, 21:46:34 Much too late.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 21:50:52 Thanks Blue Soup. I had read that the wants didn't stick or weren't locked when you left to play another family. I just wondered if they would pop back in again a while after returning or if they were gone for good. The wants not sticking is not a huge deal. Usually you'll get a bunch thrown at you when you reenter the house, and since the wants are mostly stupid crap like "Ask Ann about her day" or "make the bed", they are easy to fulfill. What sucks is losing opportunities, especially if the opportunity happens to be delivering 20 high-quality produce to a store and you're almost to the point where you have the amount. Between that issue and growing up, I've never been able to complete the elementary school opportunity that involves free game tickets.I was trying to figure out how to get a "romantic interest" to move in, get married, engaged... anything really besides fuck buddy. This takes for bloody EVER. Maybe it had something to do with my Sim's traits or something, I don't know, but my Sim had the option to "try for baby" long before she had the option to "ask to be boyfriend" or whatever the option is. I was beginning to think they'd be elders by the time they got engaged. Curtains are a mess. Many of them cut through windows. All windows. Oh, and BFFs are back. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Honeywell on 2009 May 20, 21:58:49 Did anyone else notice an inventory wipe after switching house holds? Same just happened to me, for the first time in about 10 switches. And it only happened to one sim out of a family of 4. But her guitar and song books were gone. <snip> Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: madamejeanie on 2009 May 20, 22:01:29 MJ Chun confirmed that many of the characters in the ads will not be in the game. Apparently she wasn't too happy about it either.
Interview here: http://sims3nieuws.blogspot.com/2009/05/sims-3-nieuws-exclusive-interview-with.html [/quote] I see that the game is set up to do auto-saves during gameplay. This worries me. I sometimes get up and walk away from my game for an hour or two. I almost always pause the game when I do that, but there have been times when I forgot to or was called away too suddenly to do so. If that happens while playing Sims 3, a great deal of irreparable damage might take place while I'm not in control and the old stand-by option of "quit without saving" won't apply. BTW, I've been trying to download this for two days now and I have less than a third of it downloaded. I'm about to just give up. BitTorrent slows my entire network down to a crawl while it's running. The kids are starting to complain. LOL Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sammy on 2009 May 20, 22:02:32 So, after 40 hours and something minutes I finally finished torrenting the game. Installed without a problem and the game neither crashed nor caused my laptop to explode/catch fire while running it.
The first thing I did was create a family. I'm not nearly as impressed as a lot of people seem to be about the CAS. The sims are butt ugly and no matter what I did I couldn't change the overall appearance of my sims very much. The "advanced" controls were rather pointless. They're more basic and there is very little you can change. I find it's a huge step back from Body Shop. The sims heads are strangely large, as well. The weight slider was neat, though setting it to the skinniest point didn't seem very skinny at all. I was expecting some walking skeletons. :/ All the sims seem short and stocky. The clothing meshes weren't so bad, though I'm not sure how I feel about choosing patterns and colours. It seems like a giant pain in the ass to me. It might be that it was just overwhelming at the time and figuring out how to save specific choices as "custom content" will probably help, but I'm rather disgruntled at the moment. The traits are neat, I admit. While I haven't played long enough to see how they individually effect a sim, I know by reading that it's mostly superficial and that they don't really change anything in the long run. You're not evil by taking a "wicked shower" or however it went (I know it was mentioned earlier?). I want evil sims to set fire to bushes, trip sims, poison someone's "blended drink". The way things are currently is rather corny and childish (hurr, I know it's a I tried following the tutorial, but got bored rather quickly. "Blah, blah, yes I know how to buy a couch. Jobs, blah, blah, blah." I might going through it again if it has any useful stuff... maybe. I think the idea of an open neighbourhood is good in concept, but in reality it... really pisses off people like me who need to keep a eye on the entire area so sims aren't doing what I don't want them to do. The buildings and scenery are amazing, I admit. I don't know how I feel about sims disappearing into buildings. Sure, it gives the sims more options (like going to a concert), but I feels more like a game, like Pes said, and not a toy. While I have told my sim to go to a concert, I can't follow them and Speaking of stories, I don't like how we're pretty much forced into playing along with Eaxis "storyline". My neighbourhoods are rarely "normal". In TS2 I have a zombie apocalypse hood (zombie apocalyse in TS3, by the way, would be very exciting), a sort of gloomy, dictatorial vibe, Stepford-Wife-ish background, etc. With townies doing whatever the hell they want I can't give my neighourhood any theme of my choosing. I do like how the sims have personalities now, from their traits. One sim was walking down the street, shouting and being rather obnoxious while another ditzy teenager with huge earings easily grew bored of listening to my sim squee over her new house. But like I said, it's rather superficial. Decorating houses is going to become very tedious now, me thinks. I love how we have the option of changing little details, but only to a point. Just like in CAS, it feels like a pain in the ass. I haven't quite figured out how to save a specific design as a whole instead of just a certain pattern combination, but once I do, hopefully I'll feel differently. I've noticed that a lot of furniture seems to have been taken directly from TS2 and recycled, but what else is new? This displeased me. I also noticed, as I was poking through the usual assortment of ugly window coverings, that windows actually bleed through. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/LadyDea/Screenshot.jpg) I tried a bunch of different window coverings, but the same thing happened to all of them. I didn't try different windows, but I can only assume, this is Eaxis afterall, that it's the same for all of them. Soon after the window covering incident I saved and exited. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DansGirl on 2009 May 20, 22:04:42 N00b here.... Although I have been following this topic religiously for the past few days. :P
I just wanted to contribute my seemingly normal-near enough good looking sim for you to see : (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/FlirtatiousTara/Sims%203/sims3.jpg) Also I dont know if this actually means anything but for some unknown reason I was nosing around in the Sims 3 files and I found something that said DevTest. [Prepares to be made into N00b pie] I wondered if that meant this was the developers version or not. I have no knowledge of anything too technical but thought I'd air my findings. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VeilSethekk on 2009 May 20, 22:08:55 In addition to the "bug/feature" fishing out of swimming pools, I managed to run into this interesting act of EAxis stupidity:
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k67/mshackerssuck/Other%20stuff/Screenshot.jpg) YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SimKat on 2009 May 20, 22:18:01 Now that's classic and hilarious.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Pyrobon on 2009 May 20, 22:24:16 Well, i've enjoyed the game a lot. My main complaint is sleeping takes a LOT of time, and it doesn't speed up much when going into Speed 3. Anyone having the same issue?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 20, 22:28:52 That's probably why they put the enforced sleeps into SimSocial, to get us used to the idea.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 20, 22:31:12 I wonder if I've discovered another bug, this time of the cheaty variety:
(http://bluesoupistan.com/bluesoup/pictures/Misc/writingskill.jpg) I canceled the action of writing his novel at the same moment he was to move up a skill level, and it went up two levels instead. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: tessieroo on 2009 May 20, 22:32:35 That's probably why they put the enforced sleeps into SimSocial, to get us used to the idea. Along those lines, I'm also hearing that the needs aren't that easily met in order to leave you free to do other stuff. (skills, friends, etc) Didn't EAxis say we wouldn't have to concentrate so much on basic needs this time around? So another FAIL. >:( Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VeilSethekk on 2009 May 20, 22:35:37 Along those lines, I'm also hearing that the needs aren't that easily met in order to leave you free to do other stuff. (skills, friends, etc) Didn't EAxis say we wouldn't have to concentrate so much on basic needs this time around? So another FAIL. >:( I'm thinking that's why they made the No-bladder and No-hygiene things as rewards, possibly to ease off the needs pressure. The fact that there's no Need rejuvenator thingy like in TS2 doesn't help either. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: discrete on 2009 May 20, 22:39:24 :D
I can't stand the uglyness. I've spent two hours in CAST to create a decent looking sim and I failed hard. The so-called advanced sliders are fail especially in the eyes and lips departments. TS2 Bodyshop is way better. :) I couldn't give almond shaped eyes and full lips to my sim. I played for a few hours but TS3 didn't impress too much. Sims are ugly and it's difficult for me to play if I can't stand the sims of the neighborhood. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 20, 22:40:03 The REALLY bad one is energy. It seems to go down relatively fast, and take a long time to sleep to get it all back. It's a little better with the best bed, but with money being a lot tighter than normal, it takes at least some time to get one. Also I don't think there's a lifetime reward that touches energy, of course.
On the other hand, hunger is SPEEDY. Basically one decent meal fills you from empty to full, and they eat it fast. This could be offset by the fact that cooking takes a loooong time sometimes, though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 20, 22:46:04 If you want to play the game without those pesky little "motives" do this:
1. ctrl-shift-c 2. testingcheatsenabled true 3. Enter 4. Shift-click on mailbox 5. Make All Happy 6a. Repeat 4-5 as needed, or; 6b. Shift-click on mailbox 7. Make Needs Static Done, no more pesky "motives" to hinder you. Have fun. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 20, 22:52:21 If you want to play the game without those pesky little "motives" do this: 1. ctrl-shift-c 2. testingcheatsenabled true 3. Enter 4. Shift-click on mailbox 5. Make All Happy 6a. Repeat 4-5 as needed, or; 6b. Shift-click on mailbox 7. Make Needs Static Done, no more pesky "motives" to hinder you. Have fun. Alternatively, you can click and drag on the needs bars when above cheat is enabled, just like TS2. I find it more convenient if, say, I don't want my sim to pass out from exhaustion yet, but don't want to keep refreshing all of the motives for everyone. Edited because I can't type. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: FourCats on 2009 May 20, 22:52:44 Quote Do not run. Ever. I set up my shortcut to go straight to the cracked exe, bypassing launcher. Sorry if I sound stupid but how do you do that, I have just been turning off my wifi before I launch the game, but if there is another way please let me know. Left-click the desktop shortcut, select Properties. Edit the Target path to go to TS3.exe instead of the launcherwhatever.exe. Apply. Save. Voila. My preferred way is to go directly to the cracked exe, and right click drag it to my desktop and choose short cut. Then I move it to my tool bar. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nanacake on 2009 May 20, 22:55:46 So many people watching this thread! But not enough? I do hope word of mouth wins vs the L&P that EA has/will continue placing out over the tubes. It seems like TS3 ads have panned all over the websites I visit in the last week or so. Regardless, unless I can convince my beau I can has torrent....
"5GB! And then you have to move your downloads over too?" "What downloads?! There is no custom content ....yet." "LIES!" *fingers in ears* *sigh* Don't think I'll be trying it soon. Needs more coaxing. :D I just can't be that cruel to send my iMac to it's grave yet, at least not until a proper backup is made. Did Rohina get it to work on mac? Also judging from the chair bug, I guess no one will be making custom chairs. lol Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 20, 22:56:46 Ha, my sim who was following the 'evil' path of the criminal career track just got arrested. There are even options for how you should spend your time in jail, as if you were at work. Made me lol.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 20, 23:13:23 Newspaper headlines:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/315odpv.jpg) A good way to check who is spawning whom. Births are listed first, then deaths, then (I guess) moves, then random drivel. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 20, 23:14:18 but dammit I want some evil-take-over-the-city-sims. Well, one Sim mine met was all excited to tell her about his "plot"... which apparently involved nukes, from the speech bubbles. Also, is it just me or do skills build more slowly now? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 20, 23:23:54 In general im enjoying the game. i also use to play just one house, so no problem with that. One thing i find strange: all the watches, rings, etc, are just for one hand?? When you click on the watch/ring/whatever, does an arrow appear at the bottom-left of the thumbnail? Try clicking that. Mmm, i tried this without luck. clicking in the thumbnail just delete it. Was it an idea or does it work for you? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SpaceDoll on 2009 May 20, 23:37:43 That little arrow is the undo button. No idea how you might switch hands.
I am enjoying the game muchly right now, but will probably get bored as the fun and interesting bits start repeating. One thing I do like is the little drag-able bar on queued actions that lets you make them more worthwhile, like changing "clean up dishes in room" to "clean up dishes on lot". Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LauraW on 2009 May 20, 23:44:33 getting traits from friends (I talked to a guy and gained 'friendliness' or something like that. That's not you "gaining" the trait, that's figuring out the traits of the person you're talking to. When you meet people, you have no idea what their traits are at first. And gradually you learn more and more of them the more you talk to someone. That happens in Kudos too. You see ??? instead of traits until you get to know the person. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 21, 00:15:26 Moving a sim out of a house and trying to merge them with another household does not bloody work. They get placed in the 'clipboard' area; after attempting to merge this sim into another household numerous times, I gave up and clicked 'Return To Game'. The sim I was trying to move in has effectively been deleted from the game now; none of my sims have any relationships with him any more and he is nowhere to be found. Yippee.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jaclyn on 2009 May 21, 00:22:16 Does anyone know where I can see more Screenshots from players? :)
Perhaps a photobucket album or a livejournal? I'd really like to see more. :) Loving all the information! Thanks guys! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 21, 00:29:42 Does anyone know where I can see more Screenshots from players? :) Perhaps a photobucket album or a livejournal? Another album, about 27 pics. (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/ZazazuAbubu/TS3%20previews2/) Not sure if you've already checked this one out, Zazazu posted it a few pages back. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 21, 00:38:55 This post is going to be about the tiered method of socialization with other sims and how the interactions show up accordingly. If you know about this already, feel free to skip the post.
If however you have been wondering why you can't propose steady relationship/woohoo/ask someone to move in at certain times, this MAY help. Or if you already know how this works and still can't find the stuff, then something is probably bugged/implemented crappily. Go EA! Basically, each method of chatting seems to have different tiers, with more interactions available with each successive tier. In the upper left it says what the person is currently thinking of the conversation. Friendly chatting starts with them "thinking [sim name] is okay." Next after that is thinking you are sociable and thinking you are friendly (can't remember which comes first). Flirting starts with "[sim name] is flirty", then followed by "is very alluring", and finally, "is extremely irresistible". From what I've seen, going steady only shows up with that very last stage, and I'm assuming marriage is the same. And you get to the next stage by doing the interactions in that grouping till it gets up there. Yes this means you usually can't just walk up to someone and do the woohoo interaction for example (unless you have specific traits blah blah blah). Hopefully this helps some people, and if stuff still isn't appearing when you think it should be, then I have no clue yet. I still haven't tried to get people married yet, so I don't exactly know where that is. I know I've seen "ask to move in" in the friendly section, and it is probably at one of the higher tiers of friendly chat. Edit: The interactions not appearing till higher tiers seems to apply at ALL times. Even if you have a sim as a romantic interest and with a very high relationship, it doesn't look like you can walk right up to them and make out/woohoo out of the blue. You have to go through each tier yada yada until you get to the right one and the interactions show up. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Roux on 2009 May 21, 00:51:56 Moving a sim out of a house and trying to merge them with another household does not bloody work. They get placed in the 'clipboard' area; after attempting to merge this sim into another household numerous times, I gave up and clicked 'Return To Game'. The sim I was trying to move in has effectively been deleted from the game now; none of my sims have any relationships with him any more and he is nowhere to be found. Yippee. I remember something from one of the lessons that any sim/household that is still on the clipboard will be discarded if you don't put them into a house. Which is kind of sucky, IMO. It sounds like that happened with your sim. But with a marriage-related move, I was quite surprised at how well it worked. I wanted my test sim to move into her husband's house, which was larger and better furnished. After they did the little private ceremony, there was a dialog box. I moved both sims to his side of the panel, then renamed the household to her name. I also got to decide if I wanted to pack her belongings, or sell them. There was no loss of wishes or opportunities - the sims walked together over to his house, and she had a little negative 'moving day' moodlet for a few hours. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Soggy Fox on 2009 May 21, 01:07:09 I do find three more fun to play - with sims 1, I didn't -play- until Makin' Magic. Sims 2, I played for brief spurts when I tried challenges, but mostly I just made things [well, make, since I'm not giving it up yet], and I've played the console stuff. I'm working up an unbiased review for a friend's new unbiased game review blog.
I like most of the play aspects - gardening ticks me off, and I'll never do another gardening task, unless I'm missing something. Gathering rocks, you know what you have [unlike the real world] but you can't tell what a seed will grow? Big freaking difference between lime and watermelon seeds iRL. I like the gathering and the like, but not being able to buy basic seeds like tomato, onion, garlic, and the like is...maddening. I think this is actually closer to what Simsville might have been. The graphics are not innovative, but the play stuff is. I just think the devs ignored the 2 thirds who like sandbox/modding for the movie and story makers. I personally like only needing to control one household, but others don't want to lose that control. And as a mesher who can see the potential with the new system, the possibility that I won't be able to make new meshes annoys me something fierce - that and potentially not have my game-fix hacks. But it is more fun, for now, to play. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 21, 01:12:34 I like the gathering and the like, but not being able to buy basic seeds like tomato, onion, garlic, and the like is...maddening. You can actually just go to the supermarket and plant the fruits/vegetables that you can buy there, they don't need to be in seed form. You can also plant whatever you manage to harvest, this is pretty much how you get higher and higher quality harvests.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ciane on 2009 May 21, 01:13:25 So, one thing that would be nice is the opportunity to see all "opportunities" being offered to either select families, such as ones you have already played, or all families. For example, if you are playing the Bakers, a pop-up could ask, "Should Charlie Chesterfield bring work home with him?" or "Should Clara Klepo swip a statue from the musuem?" With the option to turn off messages, or better yet, filter which messages are received, one could feel more in control without being overwhelmed with messages all the time.
I think EA should have at least left us the ability to lock in one wish though. It is after all what we have been led to expect. On a positive note, I shall be learning how to give up some control and go with the flow a bit more. I shall have to learn to be happy controlling just one family rather than a whole town, at least until someone figures out how to play it the TS2 way. Some wanted more realistic game play, and in that aspect, controlling only one family at a time is more realistic. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Gelina on 2009 May 21, 01:18:48 Has anyone figured out a way to get a lot of groceries into the fridge quickly?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Genlisae on 2009 May 21, 01:28:06 I am in the middle of looking closer at a few things that have been driving me nuts and took a few video's that I thought I would share.
Video 1 http://www.box.net/shared/f5bk2u52d2 A test family with the woman in labour for an at home birth. The father/husband is helpfully providing scene setting music for her! (Immediately after freaking out that she was in labour, he pulled out his guitar) Video 2 http://www.box.net/shared/d4uixavmma Directly across the street is the second test family currently being ignored to see what they do. As you will see the woman from the first test family went over to chat and ended up being present for the birth of the neighbours baby (her own only 3 hours old across the street) this time in hospital. Video 3 http://www.box.net/shared/x9yoa6grod The trip to the hospital and a rabbit hole building in action. What you see is what you get. Video 4 http://www.box.net/shared/i89s71kuvf Out of the rabbit hole and back home. The random male sim leaving the hospital behind the two women in this video is the father of the newborn who was supposed to be at work not at the hospital to witness the birth. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 21, 01:33:49 I think this is actually closer to what Simsville might have been. The graphics are not innovative, but the play stuff is. I just think the devs ignored the 2 thirds who like sandbox/modding for the movie and story makers. I personally like only needing to control one household, but others don't want to lose that control. And as a mesher who can see the potential with the new system, the possibility that I won't be able to make new meshes annoys me something fierce - that and potentially not have my game-fix hacks. The "only one household" thing is pretty much the main nuisance. Turning off story progression does not appear to actually do what it says on the box and halt the crapflood of random sims infesting the neighborhood or prevent the other sims from endlessly spawning.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Soggy Fox on 2009 May 21, 01:45:48 I like the gathering and the like, but not being able to buy basic seeds like tomato, onion, garlic, and the like is...maddening. You can actually just go to the supermarket and plant the fruits/vegetables that you can buy there, they don't need to be in seed form. You can also plant whatever you manage to harvest, this is pretty much how you get higher and higher quality harvests.Ooooh! Okay - right now I'm trying a somewhat asian looking girl with jade green eyes, I'll see what happens with her, though she's going for rock star. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 21, 02:05:22 YO NOOBS! This is MATY read the fucking manual, and stop posting completely pointless THANKS THIS IS GREAT! replies. You are not adding anything you are making it harder for others to get to the information they want.
@ Gelina I don't think there is a way. But you don't need to buy any, if you don't have the correct food stuffs for a meal you just pay the cost of them when you make the meal instead of buying them in bulk then using at a later date. The cost is the same unless you have supermarket offers. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daydreamer on 2009 May 21, 02:21:27 Am I blind or is there no gardening section? I can't find it for some odd reason.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisylee on 2009 May 21, 02:22:50 Pes, Inge, everyone - now that you have had a chance to look at the game a bit, what is your take on our being able to get a SimPe equivalent for this game eventually?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 02:24:25 Or if you already know how this works and still can't find the stuff, then something is probably bugged/implemented crappily. Go EA! Oh yay! Follow this exact line of actions, every time. Exactly what we, the players, don't want. My problem is still getting the relationship status to change from best friend to romantic interest. If they aren't best friends first, I get it right away after a couple of complements, a flirt, and a hand hold. If they are best friends, it takes several repeats. Basically, each method of chatting seems to have different tiers, with more interactions available with each successive tier. In the upper left it says what the person is currently thinking of the conversation. Friendly chatting starts with them "thinking [sim name] is okay." Next after that is thinking you are sociable and thinking you are friendly (can't remember which comes first). I like the gathering and the like, but not being able to buy basic seeds like tomato, onion, garlic, and the like is...maddening. You can actually just go to the supermarket and plant the fruits/vegetables that you can buy there, they don't need to be in seed form. You can also plant whatever you manage to harvest, this is pretty much how you get higher and higher quality harvests.(http://i40.tinypic.com/35b8nci.jpg) This is a remodel of the little trailer-like home with the "Indian burial ground" in the back (my poor ancestors). My family is finally solvent. Annoyingly, that nasty colored edge that you get on a flat roof or foundation is still present. Also, fences can't be recolored. Columns can. Driveways don't have a default paving, so those can be customized as you want. Am I the only one wondering why, if we got such fine-tuned texture controls for objects, hair, and clothing, we didn't get the same for Build mode? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Genlisae on 2009 May 21, 02:34:45 Am I the only one wondering why, if we got such fine-tuned texture controls for objects, hair, and clothing, we didn't get the same for Build mode? That and why all driveways, even in the garage have a speedbump at the end of them ... a speedbump was the best they could come up with? Also amoung my wondering is why others seem to get the lifespan slider to work globally yet it wasn't for me. So I went back in and tested a couple of the mentioned scenarios where the slider is/is not global. After several test families and much abuse of the Goth family I have changed my thinking on the lifespan slider from "it is household specific" to "It's just broken" Scenario 1: Brand new hood with lifespan slider set to "normal" and story progression on. Loaded the Bachelor family to check on Bella's age. Loaded the Goth family checked that Mortimer and Bella did appear to be exactly the same age in all levels of the lifespan slider. Set lifespan slider to "epic" and the speed to fast forward and left them to their own devices for a week (Bella was 7 days from teen on "normal" life span). I have to say I was impressed with how well they will look after themselves. You almost can ignore them and they won't die ... almost. Not so happy with the ghosts. The ghost are like annoying uninvited guests that take naps in your bed, strike up conversations (and sometimes dances) with your sims and pull a very real, completely not ghost like at all, laptop out of no where and take up your kitchen table in the middle of dinner. I would have preferred they be more .. ghosty? At the end of the week, I confirmed that Mortimer had aged 7 days on "epic" life span and was now 60 days from teen. I switched back over to the Bachelor family to see if Bella had aged to teen as I had expected her to. She hadn't, she was still a child, however, she had only aged 3 days according to all of the life span settings on the slider. 7 days for Mort, was only 3 for Bella. Very odd. Scenario 2: Two couples, both married, one the Test family the other the Subject family (not very original I know). Move the Tests in, immediately try for baby successfully. Switch to Subject family, move in, try for baby, also successful on the first try. Switch back the the Test family (who acquired a guitar in the short time I was gone!), set the lifespan slider to epic and play through birth of child (see video in my previous post) 3 sim hours later a Test is present for the birth of the Subject baby (also in videos). From this point on the Subjects were ignored for the next three sim days. I checked back in on the Subject family after 3 days and their child, 3 sim hours younger than the Test child is already a toddler. Obviously the lifespan slider does not work intuitively as you would expect. If it is working I can't even begin to guess as there doesn't seem to be any logic behind what happens. I will continue ignoring the Subject family and letting the Tests fend for themselves to see what happens as far as the children ageing goes. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 21, 02:46:32 Possible very annoying glitch ahoy.
Bought the tabs book for level 5 guitar, teenager practiced it, then ated the guitar. Okay, messed up enough. So I buy him a new one and tell him to perform the song. Well, he performs it, but the animation is seriously borked. Started playing an invisible guitar with the real one spinning a thousand miles per hour in his hand. Would really like someone else to confirm this one. If it just afflicts one performable song, okay, no big deal. If you can't perform a single song without this WTFage going on, then :-\ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jaccirocker on 2009 May 21, 02:46:57 Just a few more things before I start playing again. I realized that sims actually have tongues now. Yay because the lack of a tongue used to really creep me out. IDK why but it did. Another thing I could even get my married couple to make out after the first day. Lastly I have Vista 32-bit and it has been working fine ( knock on wood) even though I have an "unsupportable" video card according to EA and the game specs. It tends to use over 1 GB of memory but I have been playing all day going through the neighhood, CAS and the like several times.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mrowcat on 2009 May 21, 02:47:53 Basically, each method of chatting seems to have different tiers, with more interactions available with each successive tier. In the upper left it says what the person is currently thinking of the conversation. Friendly chatting starts with them "thinking [sim name] is okay." Next after that is thinking you are sociable and thinking you are friendly (can't remember which comes first). Flirting starts with "[sim name] is flirty", then followed by "is very alluring", and finally, "is extremely irresistible". From what I've seen, going steady only shows up with that very last stage, and I'm assuming marriage is the same. And you get to the next stage by doing the interactions in that grouping till it gets up there. Yes this means you usually can't just walk up to someone and do the woohoo interaction for example (unless you have specific traits blah blah blah). I can confirm part of this after struggling with the Goths. You can't just hop the married couple in bed and expect to try for baby even though the actions are in the menu. Woe betide you if you try. I knocked quite a bit off their relationship and had to work them back up to simply kissing. If we have to go through this rigamarole every time we want kids, it's a big do not want for me. I've not played extensively, but I can say that there is something about the game's graphics that make me think of Fisher Price. Spore gave me the same feeling - kids would probably like it. I really love how the landscaping looks. The scenery is pretty and I love that the sims' eyes have a wet look to them along with a reflective shine (for lack of a better word) that keeps its position when your sim moves his/her eyes around. I'll admit that the open neighborhood is niftier than I thought, but I don't know if 3 will last for me beyond the new game novelty. I'm already wanting more patterned swatches for CaST because a lot of what's included aren't to my taste and I want hair that doesn't look like it's either vinyl or matted animal fur. Creating a truly unique sim is somewhat challenging and getting away from pudgy faces is proving damn near impossible. I thought I had one until I got my sim in game and looked at her from a distance. Overall I suppose I'm enjoying it, but as I said before it has the novelty factor going for it. Oh, and has anyone noticed that choosing what to paint for a 'still life' is counterintuitive? Whichever direction I move my mouse, the 'frame' goes the opposite way. Combine it with hypersensitive scrolling and I got a good five minutes of Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 21, 02:51:51 I'm thinking that's why they made the No-bladder and No-hygiene things as rewards, possibly to ease off the needs pressure. The fact that there's no Need rejuvenator thingy like in TS2 doesn't help either. The no hygiene thing isn't really no-hygiene, it's more analagous to the FT reducer perks. The no bladder thing, however, really is. Your sim will never, EVER, need pee again. For ANY reason. The bladder motive simply ceases to be once you buy it...and it's far cheaper than the others. Rather overpowered, really.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 21, 02:52:48 Possible very annoying glitch ahoy. Bought the tabs book for level 5 guitar, teenager practiced it, then ated the guitar. Okay, messed up enough. So I buy him a new one and tell him to perform the song. Well, he performs it, but the animation is seriously borked. Started playing an invisible guitar with the real one spinning a thousand miles per hour in his hand. Would really like someone else to confirm this one. If it just afflicts one performable song, okay, no big deal. If you can't perform a single song without this WTFage going on, then :-\ I think I saw a video that showed something like this happening, for what it's worth. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 21, 02:55:33 I think this is officially the worst discovered non-Sim-freezing glitch discovered thus far then. Obviously, it's going to affect every song. Maybe some hope for non-teenagers performing? Doubt it.
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq307/DigiGekko/Screenshot-74.jpg) wtf Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Pinstar on 2009 May 21, 03:14:44 That reminds me of the old frozen arm glitch you got when you canceled a chess-playing sim's action mid-move.
Perhaps they meant to put in animations for playing air guitar (something perfectly sensible for a teenager to do) and the animation confused it with playing the real one? Just...ick! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 21, 03:18:40 I have a question. How do you get a couple to leave the house together? My sim about to go to the hospital to have the baby, but I don't know how to get the husband to go with her. I would like for both of them to leave together to go shopping, eat out, or to the park. They don't have the funds for a car yet, is that the only way to get them out together?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 21, 03:19:57 Okay, I tried this out on an adult, works as it should, which means young adults should be error-free as well. Summary: Teenagers can't perform with the guitar, at least not without severe borkiness. Lame.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SpaceDoll on 2009 May 21, 03:32:20 Found a bug in the opportunities. It looks like if you have accepted two opportunities at the same location, the first is unfulfillable, and the second is also possibly borked. Or, maybe, it is just these specific opportunities. I first signed on for the culinary career "Bad Apples" opportunity, which required growing 10 bad apples, then for the gardening skill "Limes are Key" opportunity, which requires growing 4 very nice limes and returning them to the same restaurant. After accepting the second opportunity, the tag menu for the first just repeated the second (even though the title was correct), so that the "give apples" (or whatever) option was "give limes" in both menus. When I took the apples to work with me, they were removed from my inventory, but the opportunity came up as failed at the deadline. So, BORKED, for sure. Furthermore, the lime tree I planted for the second opportunity will not go any higher than "growing" (no "mature", etc.), even though it's been a week and I've tended to it as required. No idea if that's part of the same borkage or not. Great fun.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Genlisae on 2009 May 21, 03:34:18 I have a question. How do you get a couple to leave the house together? My sim about to go to the hospital to have the baby, but I don't know how to get the husband to go with her. I would like for both of them to leave together to go shopping, eat out, or to the park. They don't have the funds for a car yet, is that the only way to get them out together? Going to the hospital with the mother happens automatically unless you cancel it. As for shopping, I am not sure though I recall seeing "go with ..." on some of the buildings. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 21, 03:50:44 Nevermind
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Chain_Reaction on 2009 May 21, 04:06:53 *Custom eyes would be nice. I don't think theres much need for custom eyes now that you can use the color wheel to set them to any color you please. ETA - Also, everything we make gets sent to the evil Launcher (sims, clothes, screenshots...). Screenshots are easily accessible, but what about those other things? If I run the launcher, it'll give me securom, huh? I figured this out last night. In Edit Town mode, you click a sim in the 'Library' or a house and click the 'Share' button. It *says* it's exported to the launcher, but you can get around that. Look in My Documents --> Electronic Arts --> The Sims 3 --> Exports. There's your custom content file with the exported content. Launcher = DNW or need. Quote I spent 2 days downloading this bloody thing and now I can't install it. I'm getting an error message like so: >SetupNew\setup.cpp(140) PAPP: PVENDOR: PGUID: $15.0.0.498 I am decidedly unawesome, so could anyone shed any light on what may be going wrong here? This is caused by trying to run the installer with winRAR, stop that! Extract it. Actually, no. Read my next post. But I appreciate your "can-do" attitude. Actually, yes. There may be another reason the error occurs but it definitely does if you try to open it with winrar. I've noticed that a lot of furniture seems to have been taken directly from TS2 and recycled, but what else is new? This displeased me. I also noticed, as I was poking through the usual assortment of ugly window coverings, that windows actually bleed through. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/LadyDea/Screenshot.jpg) I tried a bunch of different window coverings, but the same thing happened to all of them. I didn't try different windows, but I can only assume, this is Eaxis afterall, that it's the same for all of them. Are you certain you didn't have the window facing the wrong direction? The ledge is on the inside and I don't think that's quite right. I can't stand the uglyness. I've spent two hours in CAST to create a decent looking sim and I failed hard. The so-called advanced sliders are fail especially in the eyes and lips departments. TS2 Bodyshop is way better. :) I couldn't give almond shaped eyes and full lips to my sim. I managed both. Try harder. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 21, 04:25:54 Okay, I tried this out on an adult, works as it should, which means young adults should be error-free as well. Summary: Teenagers can't perform with the guitar, at least not without severe borkiness. Lame. I had the guitar disappear bug as well, on an adult male immediately after learning level 5 skill. I'm going to try to get him to level 6/have him learn a new song and see if that helps at all. Too bad, as I really enjoyed the guitar aspect of the game. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 21, 04:29:02 Odd. This glitch needs more testing if it might happen to an adult, as well. This might also mean some teenagers are "immune". I might try a few more teenagers/adults when I have time.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 04:33:48 Possible very annoying glitch ahoy. Abraham has learned 12 different songs. All proceeded smoothly, and he never lost his guitar. He was either a YA or adult, though. I'm about to start up another test to focus on the story progression option and will be doing (hopefully) a single teen living on the street. He'll be living off leavings in the park and tips from playing guitar/maybe painting. So we'll see.Bought the tabs book for level 5 guitar, teenager practiced it, then ated the guitar. Okay, messed up enough. So I buy him a new one and tell him to perform the song. Well, he performs it, but the animation is seriously borked. Started playing an invisible guitar with the real one spinning a thousand miles per hour in his hand. Would really like someone else to confirm this one. If it just afflicts one performable song, okay, no big deal. If you can't perform a single song without this WTFage going on, then :-\ Are you certain you didn't have the window facing the wrong direction? The ledge is on the inside and I don't think that's quite right. That house is a pre-built, and the one I've been playing. That's how it is set up. You may have a point, though...it's possible EAxis screwed the pooch.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 21, 04:36:03 EWWW THE TEXTURES.
Seriously. Is anyone else getting really gross, low quality texturing on Sims' clothing and hair with all graphics settings on high? And faces, too, now that I think about it. It seriously looks like TS2 graphics on the lowest setting. Everything is fuzzy and EW DNW. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kewian on 2009 May 21, 04:37:53 Sims 3 bites. It looks like it was meant to be Sims 2 and Sims 2 was meant to be 3. It is way too easy. It has good stuff but they compromised on quality way too much.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 21, 05:10:57 a single teen living on the street. He'll be living off leavings in the park and tips from playing guitar/maybe painting. So we'll see. Cool idea. I've always wanted a homeless Sim and didn't realise you could do that now. Are you just going to be initially putting him in a vacant lot and not building him a house? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: gethane on 2009 May 21, 05:25:29 I think this is officially the worst discovered non-Sim-freezing glitch discovered thus far then. Obviously, it's going to affect every song. Maybe some hope for non-teenagers performing? Doubt it. (http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq307/DigiGekko/Screenshot-74.jpg) wtf Awesome, it's Adam Lambert! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 21, 05:36:18 Yeah, you can totally make a homeless sim now that just has a vacant lot for a home. Eat from picnic baskets, sleep on park benches, sell crap you find on the ground, and play guitar (without glitching) for cash.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 21, 05:40:56 More on guitar glitch: first of all, my sim was a young adult, rather than an adult. To clear it I used moveobjects to detach and delete the "invisible"/stuck guitar from him, and he is now able to play again as normal. I would suggest that anyone experiencing this glitch take the sim in question to a community lot and see if a stuck, non-interactive guitar suddenly appears stuck to them. This seems to be nothing we haven't seen in TS2, but without shift-click capabilities the method for doing away with it appears to be more of a pain in the ass than we are previously used to.
Also, the reward for fertility when present in both partners resulted in first pregnancy non-identical twins. Has anyone had triplets? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lum on 2009 May 21, 05:45:12 Long story short: This game annoys me.
I spent an hour or so fooling around the options panel, because it set me up on low, and it looked pretty awful. Then I got to a happy medium and figured that, no, there's just no way to make their little caveman faces look good. The TS2 sims look way more realistic in their cartoony way, because these new sims tried to cross the uncanny valley and failed. HARD. Let their little digital skeletons serve as a warning to others. Do I always have click 'new game' for each family? Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but if I'm doing to right, this isn't what I expected at all. I've only loaded two families -one created, one pre-installed- but they seem to be living in parallel universes. Family one doesn't show anywhere in family two's neighborhood, and likewise in reverse. Are they LITERALLY two games? And each family represents a 'new game'? God, I hope I'm wrong about this. I really expected the old 'one neighborhood, many families approach', because how else are they going to interact? Also: CAS sucks. Textures are nice, but there's no way around the caveman features. Clothes aren't all that either. Caveman issues aside, I like how the sims stand while idling. Looks realistic. As for gameplay, the traits are great, I'll give you that. Somebody already mentioned there seems to be a strategy/tactic vibe going on, and that's exactly right. On my Wii, I have 'My life as a king' from Wiiware, and this reminded me a lot about it. In MLAK, I send my little people on errands, never see the inside of their houses, and all of the quests happen off-screen, so I have to read a report to know what because of them. It was a fun game, but it had a short shelf-life. After completing the game, there was nothing else to do. I foresee the same thing happening to Sims 3. Yeah, it's shiny now, but the potential for boredom is greater than TS2. I'll have fun with TS3, but I'll come back crawling to TS2 eventually. Evil charismatic lucky romantic family sim FTW, though. She wants to be an empress of evil someday. The gods have smiled upon her, and I expect great things from her evil brood. (I miss the alien abuctions already, though.) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 21, 05:47:33 Yeah they are new games entirely. To switch families, you go to "Edit Town" and on the bottom left of your screen there's an icon to switch active family.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Peggy_Leggy on 2009 May 21, 06:14:10 After 9 long years (since Sims 1) Sims can FINALLY watch tv from any angle. :o This has always been one thing that irritated me . Yes, that is useful! You can take advantage of more seating options now. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 06:15:38 a single teen living on the street. He'll be living off leavings in the park and tips from playing guitar/maybe painting. So we'll see. Cool idea. I've always wanted a homeless Sim and didn't realise you could do that now. Are you just going to be initially putting him in a vacant lot and not building him a house? With an adult, it's more possible, but you'd still have a really hard time getting ahead since they can't even sleep in school. Teen might be okay if you allow them to start with a guitar and eventually buy things for their home lot. At a $0 start, no. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 21, 06:18:36 I have a question. How do you get a couple to leave the house together? My sim about to go to the hospital to have the baby, but I don't know how to get the husband to go with her. I would like for both of them to leave together to go shopping, eat out, or to the park. They don't have the funds for a car yet, is that the only way to get them out together? Going to the hospital with the mother happens automatically unless you cancel it. As for shopping, I am not sure though I recall seeing "go with ..." on some of the buildings. Thanks, saw that after I let it play... wish they went together. Now to figure out how to get them to ride bikes to the park together... I have noticed books disappearing after learning a new recipe. I figured that it should go in the bookcase for others to learn. What is up with costing 1000 simoleons for a book learning that cake, I forgot the name. Too high. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: farmersimmer on 2009 May 21, 06:22:19 At first I thought Sims 3 was awesome being able to seamlessly go around the neighborhood,but then I came to the diner- yep go in and eat but the sim can, I can't see inside there, isnt anything there when I zoom in? whats with that? hmm ok try the beach a dip in the sea
oops no swim option just fishing...well least there are cars, oops they skipped the get in and reverse then drive now they teleport to the road WTF! The more I played the more it became a poor 3d upgrade of Sims 2 we waited 6 years for this???cmmon EA your kidding? oh no there not,that's how they to get you to buy more -except this has had years in the making? heck even making a home if you can find the options for creating bare blocks and homes and trying to put a family in (that can afford an empty small house is a pain!)not that there is much content to furnish it with, but hey the sims 3 items look just as basic as the original sims 2 stuff so maybe wei can mport other object packages? ,that remains to be seen.. gee thought having pets and weather could have been included and another town? or the option to make a fresh one (not the same) over and over. They have done a spore on Sims3 aaaghhhh! THE HORROR! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VeilSethekk on 2009 May 21, 07:34:00 I have noticed books disappearing after learning a new recipe. I figured that it should go in the bookcase for others to learn. What is up with costing 1000 simoleons for a book learning that cake, I forgot the name. Too high. I guess they decided to make those things one-time use to function as money sinks, given how much more difficult money is to comeby. But realistically, the idea of recipes disappearing like that is just plain stupid. And did anyone figure out how the fuck the Food Replicator works, let alone if it does anything? From my observations of it so far, it's not like the ones at Paladin's Place for TS1 and TS2 in terms of making food appear by itself, and it doesn't serve as a stove/fridge replacement either. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 21, 07:41:11 I have noticed books disappearing after learning a new recipe. I figured that it should go in the bookcase for others to learn. What is up with costing 1000 simoleons for a book learning that cake, I forgot the name. Too high. I guess they decided to make those things one-time use to function as money sinks, given how much more difficult money is to comeby. But realistically, the idea of recipes disappearing like that is just plain stupid. And did anyone figured out how the fuck the Food Replicator works, let alone if it does anything. From my observations of it so far, it's not like the ones at Paladin's Place for TS1 and TS2 in terms of making the food by itself, and it doesn't serve as a stove replacement either. Yeah i got a food replicator and it works great. You make a meal then you store it on the food replicator and depending on the quality you get an amount of charges. For nice quality its 10 for very nice its 20. The best idea is to store group meals. You can overwrite any one whenever you want providing you got a food dish to do so. Once you got meals stored simply activate the food replicator and get it to replicate a meal. I've had my sims going on just the food replicator for ages and never needing to cook. You can also upgrade it to hold more slots. When it's upgraded it can hold 3 foods. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 08:45:23 Ok I now understand what is going on.
EA leaked a "pirated" copy of the game, knowing that the type of people who would be attracted to gaining the game in this dastardly way are precisely the type of people most likely to track down bugs and tell Pescado about them. This way, Pescado can come up with solutions in time for EA to use his fixes in a patch very soon after the game comes out officially. It's all good, folks. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 21, 08:55:06 Inge, I think you've got the wrong brand of tinfoil under that tea cosy of yours - you went for the cheap no-name supermarket brand, didn't you? The major flaw in your idea is that you think EA care about releasing an early bug-fixing patch.
Here's the real reason. EA leaked the game to the pirates so that when sales go pear-shaped, they can blame it on the early release of the pirated copy. With much wailing and wringing of hands, they can tell their shareholders that the game would have been far more successful if only those nasty pirates hadn't had a 2 week head start. Then nobody at EA will have to take the blame for deciding to remove the aspects of the game that made TS1 and TS2 so successful, or for deciding to include secuROM. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: maxon on 2009 May 21, 09:06:42 I haven't seen anybody report this yet:
> Also, I deleted all the premade families, and after playing 30 > minutes, they're all moving back in... DESPITE BEING DELETED! The > Goths, Landgraabs, Alto family, all of them! That's from someone on the newsnet sims group who is trying out the game. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Giggy on 2009 May 21, 09:10:50 Inge, that logic is full of flaws.
[21:00] <Lorelei> If they really wanted him to mod it and de-crapify it, they would have sent him a copy before now via a download link [21:00] <Lorelei> the "it's not the real game" and other theories are lulzy Edit: (Forgotten this bit, thanks Lorelei) Pescado: "It's not the real game" is an irrelevant argument. Pescado: The problems that exist in the game are deeply rooted design decisions that would not be overturned even within several months. Lorelei: these [conspiracy] theorists are probably just bitter [that other] people got it before they did AND said it is 90% crappy Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 21, 09:18:05 [21:00] <Lorelei> If they really wanted him to mod it and de-crapify it, they would have sent him a copy before now via a download link [21:00] <Lorelei> the "it's not the real game" and other theories are lulzy This sums up what I thought of Inges theory. Oh how cute. Giggy's attempting to give a serious response to Inge's joke theory. And it's not even Giggy's own opinion. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lorelei on 2009 May 21, 09:27:43 [21:00] <Lorelei> If they really wanted him to mod it and de-crapify it, they would have sent him a copy before now via a download link [21:00] <Lorelei> the "it's not the real game" and other theories are lulzy This sums up what I thought of Inges theory. Oh how cute. Giggy's attempting to give a serious response to Inge's joke theory. And it's not even Giggy's own opinion. He forgot this bit: Pescado: "It's not the real game" is an irrelevant argument. Pescado: The problems that exist in the game are deeply rooted design decisions that would not be overturned even within several months. Lorelei: these [conspiracy] theorists are probably just bitter [that other] people got it before they did AND said it is 90% crappy Pescado's response would at least have added some weight to the response, rather than just quoting me out of context responding to Inge's facetiousness in like fashion. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Genlisae on 2009 May 21, 09:31:42 Simply because I love the conspiracy theories (and my tinfoil hat has been abducted ... I suspect pirates!) I am going to throw a comment made by my fiancée out there upon reading the last few posts.
"I find it funny that giantbomb hasn't reviewed the game yet. Wait, no I don't, they are the guys who got fired and quit from gamespot for not giving an EA game the review that was paid for. EA doesn't want them anywhere near a review of their latest bug ridden POS." Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 21, 09:35:29 I haven't seen anybody report this yet: > Also, I deleted all the premade families, and after playing 30 > minutes, they're all moving back in... DESPITE BEING DELETED! The > Goths, Landgraabs, Alto family, all of them! That's from someone on the newsnet sims group who is trying out the game. I deleted all the families and all the buildings and nothing and no one came back (played for about two days). What's even better, there are no new random townies generated (perhaps if there was more houses they would come and occupy them). My one and only sim is enjoying his sollitude and living of fishing. I tried to hook him up with the mail woman, but I missed her arrival, then had my sim chase her around town but she dissappeared before he got to her. If she's the new 'untouchable', I'll have to make a couple of 'townies' for spawning purposes. Or just build another house and see what happens. The 'bin' families ('library' families?) cannot be deleted, but they also don't show up in the hood. I like this. Only the little paper boy and the said mail woman are present in the hood along with my One Sim. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: farmersimmer on 2009 May 21, 09:39:46 Ok I now understand what is going on. Hehe they left it many months too late.EA leaked a "pirated" copy of the game, knowing that the type of people who would be attracted to gaining the game in this dastardly way are precisely the type of people most likely to track down bugs and tell Pescado about them. This way, Pescado can come up with solutions in time for EA to use his fixes in a patch very soon after the game comes out officially. It's all good, folks. Not even mods can save this monstrosity, Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 21, 09:43:20 He forgot this bit: ... <snip> ... quoting me out of context I figured it was something like that. I knew you'd realise that the prankster in the tea cosy wasn't srs. Besides, we all know that you've spent your senatorial tinfoil budget wisely - you not only made a good quality tinfoil hat for yourself, you also did the same for Murphy. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 21, 09:45:48 I haven't seen anybody report this yet: > Also, I deleted all the premade families, and after playing 30 > minutes, they're all moving back in... DESPITE BEING DELETED! The > Goths, Landgraabs, Alto family, all of them! That's from someone on the newsnet sims group who is trying out the game. I deleted all the families and all the buildings and nothing and no one came back (played for about two days). What's even better, there are no new random townies generated (perhaps if there was more houses they would come and occupy them). My one and only sim is enjoying his sollitude and living of fishing. I tried to hook him up with the mail woman, but I missed her arrival, then had my sim chase her around town but she dissappeared before he got to her. If she's the new 'untouchable', I'll have to make a couple of 'townies' for spawning purposes. Or just build another house and see what happens. The 'bin' families ('library' families?) cannot be deleted, but they also don't show up in the hood. I like this. Only the little paper boy and the said mail woman are present in the hood along with my One Sim. I did the same thing, only left houses. No townies regeneration. Also I spotted a couple of thieves. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 21, 09:46:41 Quote I deleted all the families and all the buildings and nothing and no one came back (played for about two days). What's even better, there are no new random townies generated (perhaps if there was more houses they would come and occupy them). My one and only sim is enjoying his sollitude and living of fishing. I tried to hook him up with the mail woman, but I missed her arrival, then had my sim chase her around town but she dissappeared before he got to her. If she's the new 'untouchable', I'll have to make a couple of 'townies' for spawning purposes. Or just build another house and see what happens. The 'bin' families ('library' families?) cannot be deleted, but they also don't show up in the hood. I like this. Only the little paper boy and the said mail woman are present in the hood along with my One Sim. I'd like to make an Adam and Eve style neighbourhood that starts with only two people and grows until its a massive town. Sadly until there's a way to remove the check for incest relationships that can't happen. Anyone else notice how useless testingcheats is now? Before you could do anything and everything including that ^ . Now you can't do a damn thing with it except change traits and freeze motives. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Giggy on 2009 May 21, 09:52:24 I feel very stupid. I think my humour meter is broken again.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 21, 10:32:54 It sucks that it takes twice the number of old rotting newspapers now before the damn paper delivery kid will stop coming.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: simsdesperado on 2009 May 21, 11:26:22 I played it for some hours, and while I have no issues with the sims, or the gameplay, I do have some concerns regarding the graphics. I have an nvidia 8600 videocard with 512 mb memory and inspite of the fact that all settings were on high and gameplay was smooth, the textures look very blurry and pixelated, especially on close-ups. Even the sims's skins. Also, I noticed that from a normal play camera height, texture details go missing. I made a sim with red and white polka dots shoes and the dots were visible only when I viewed them in extreme close-up. I also have an issue with the dark shadows on the objects. I tried to make *white* towels but the result was more like dirty white towels. And the same thing happened with the curtains, the bedsheets, the leather couch that's also in sims2. And the indoors lightning seems to suffer from the same drawback as the radiance lightning mod for sims2. The objects near the light source glow and appear overexposed while those a few squares away are very dark. Maybe I don't play enough games to make a reasonable comparison of what is realistically achievable in terms of technology, but I find these issues very annoying, especially when we had very beautiful clean textures in Sims2 and the lightning was good even though it was not realistic. Maybe it's an issue with my card, or maybe it's just the way the game renders objects. But if that's the case I don't think it should render objects with lower quality when you're inside the lot. It's very annoying because things seem hazy.
Anyway, the other issue I have is CAST. I find it a bit difficult to use, it's quite intuitive, but do we really have to approve each and every recolour for each and every recolourable subset? There are too many steps I think and it is time consuming. Also, it takes up too much screen space. I don't see why do we need to have the saved recolours window pop-up when we save the recolours. It takes up additional space and you need to move the camera so you can see the object you're trying to recolour in the little space that's left. Also, it cannot be moved to another area on the screen. It was possible to move them in Sims2 so why not in Sims3? Edit: I also find annoying that we now have buttons for raising and lowering the camera view. Why did we need that? For the good parts, I like that sims can play in the bathtub with the little rubber ducky, it looks so cute. Can't wait for the censor blur to be removed so I can see the whole animation! I love that sims can ranomly meet people, and find things to collect. Also, the cemetary at night is awsome, I can see my sims having some halloween parties there. And the ghosts actually look very nice in game. The neighbourhood is awsome, haven't had the time to explore it all, but what I've seen so far looks good. Free roaming is great! Also, did anyone notice that in the scrolling text that appears while the game loads, they say that online experience is not rated by the ESRB. Could it be possible that they intend to release an online version too? Edit again: I also had my sim use the toilet and bathtub to sit on while eating. I think it's cute. My sim stoped using them after I bought her a couch so I don't mind it if they do eat sitting on the toilet if there's no chairs available. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tyyppi on 2009 May 21, 11:43:35 Also, did anyone notice that in the scrolling text that appears while the game loads, they say that online experience is not rated by the ESRB. Could it be possible that they intend to release an online version too? This probably refers to custom content you can download from other users. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 21, 11:45:44 Also, did anyone notice that in the scrolling text that appears while the game loads, they say that online experience is not rated by the ESRB. Could it be possible that they intend to release an online version too? I doubt it, I bet they mean the exchange I had this very wonky animation show up when the toddler was watching the cooking channel with her mom. She sits normally for a bit, then she gets excited or something and this happens. (http://bluesoupistan.com/bluesoup/pictures/Misc/wtfanimation.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Samethana on 2009 May 21, 11:51:21 This game reaches a whole new level of craptastic.
Whereas the change from TS1 to TS2 was awesome (better graphics, better gameplay, better interface), the change to TS3 is a major setback imho. The sims are awful (and I'm not one of those face1 type lovers), the interface sucks majorly and the entire build/buy mode is even crappier than the TS1 one. If there was no TS2, I'd rather play TS1 than this non-game. I'm going to unpre-order immediatly and throw this piece of crap off my precious computer! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jonas on 2009 May 21, 11:55:10 Well, that's just creepy as hell...
Maybe she's got special powers. You should rename her "Stretch". ;D On the other hand though, EA never ceases to amaze me with the sheer amount of bugs they have in their released games. They are now renowned for it and still it goes unaddressed. Completely sickening especially when they delay the game "to make improvements" (see - "really we don't see as much of a profit in our designated quarter if we release it on our original date") Profit schmoozing and all, they could take that time to fix these things. But they don't. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 21, 11:58:58 Well, that's just creepy as hell... Maybe she's got special powers. You should rename her "Stretch". ;D On the other hand though, EA never ceases to amaze me with the sheer amount of bugs they have in their released games. They are now renowned for it and still it goes unaddressed. A lot of toddlers animations seem to be glitched as hell. The first sim I played with a kid, I had her pick him up, snuggle him, teach him to walk and talk, and so on. At times, there were large gaps of space in between her and the child that obviously weren't supposed to be there. Other times, arms and legs were rammed through the other sim. ::) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Menaceman on 2009 May 21, 12:04:12 It looks like stretchSkeleton gone wrong.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 21, 12:11:20 The traits are neat, I admit. While I haven't played long enough to see how they individually effect a sim, I know by reading that it's mostly superficial and that they don't really change anything in the long run. You're not evil by taking a "wicked shower" or however it went (I know it was mentioned earlier?). I want evil sims to set fire to bushes, trip sims, poison someone's "blended drink". The way things are currently is rather corny and childish (hurr, I know it's a My test Sim has the following traits: Friendly, Good Sense of Humor, Over-Emotional, Hopeless Romantic, and Evil. Her Evil trait has so far surfaced in autonomously scaring her neighbor and kicking over the same neighbor's trash can. She also "fiendishly" ate ice cream directly from the carton, but I'm not sure if that's different from how any sim Eats Quick > Ice Cream. Clearly, we are dealing with the second coming of Hitler in this sim. So far the only Evil want she has rolled is to donate money to undermine a charity. Other than that, she pretty much wants to gain gardening skill and have her first kiss. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: netza on 2009 May 21, 12:16:32 I played it for some hours, and while I have no issues with the sims, or the gameplay, I do have some concerns regarding the graphics. I have an nvidia 8600 videocard with 512 mb memory and inspite of the fact that all settings were on high and gameplay was smooth, the textures look very blurry and pixelated, especially on close-ups. Even the sims's skins. Also, I noticed that from a normal play camera height, texture details go missing. I made a sim with red and white polka dots shoes and the dots were visible only when I viewed them in extreme close-up. I also have an issue with the dark shadows on the objects. I tried to make *white* towels but the result was more like dirty white towels. And the same thing happened with the curtains, the bedsheets, the leather couch that's also in sims2. And the indoors lightning seems to suffer from the same drawback as the radiance lightning mod for sims2. The objects near the light source glow and appear overexposed while those a few squares away are very dark. Maybe I don't play enough games to make a reasonable comparison of what is realistically achievable in terms of technology, but I find these issues very annoying, especially when we had very beautiful clean textures in Sims2 and the lightning was good even though it was not realistic. Maybe it's an issue with my card, or maybe it's just the way the game renders objects. But if that's the case I don't think it should render objects with lower quality when you're inside the lot. It's very annoying because things seem hazy. Just wanted to say that I have the same card and the same problem with grey textures that should be white... dunno if it's the game or the card though that does it... but I guess on the game. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: specialtoffee on 2009 May 21, 12:20:50 My neat/green thumb sim appears to have some options similar to macro > clean and macro > garden. She has a "clean house" action by clicking on the floor indoors and "tend to plants" will apparently deal with all of them that need any kind of attention. I don't know if these are trait specific or if anybody gets them but it's a nice improvement over unmodded TS2.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 12:38:00 I would have thought being evil would leave little room for other sentiments, such as friendliness or romantic urges. They should have made all other emotional traits unavailable once evil is chosen, leaving only skill type traits such as how intelligent or artistic they are.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 21, 13:08:38 I would have thought being evil would leave little room for other sentiments, such as friendliness or romantic urges. Not true. As the Son of Perdition, I am dedicated to evil, and yet I lead a full life, rich with friendships and romance. Evil IS "romantic" in a literary sense. It is just moar fiery and dangerous. Why do girls like guys with a "dark side" after all? It's certainly not because they have no room for romantic urges. Evil people don't like being bored or lonely any more than the Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 13:11:39 Has there been any advancement on trying to hack the file formats? Is there somewhere on this site (or elsewhere) that this is being reported? Can I get a brain cheap? Used will do if in good condition! Yes Sort of No Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 21, 13:32:40 I would have thought being evil would leave little room for other sentiments, such as friendliness or romantic urges. Not true. As the Son of Perdition, I am dedicated to evil, and yet I lead a full life, rich with friendships and romance. Evil IS "romantic" in a literary sense. It is just moar fiery and dangerous. Why do girls like guys with a "dark side" after all? It's certainly not because they have no room for romantic urges. Evil people don't like being bored or lonely any more than the And how better to win your way into potential victims' trust than to charm them with your friendliness and and sense of humor? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Dizzymental on 2009 May 21, 13:48:42 I played it for some hours, and while I have no issues with the sims, or the gameplay, I do have some concerns regarding the graphics. I have an nvidia 8600 videocard with 512 mb memory and inspite of the fact that all settings were on high and gameplay was smooth, the textures look very blurry and pixelated, especially on close-ups. Even the sims's skins. Also, I noticed that from a normal play camera height, texture details go missing. I made a sim with red and white polka dots shoes and the dots were visible only when I viewed them in extreme close-up. I also have an issue with the dark shadows on the objects. I tried to make *white* towels but the result was more like dirty white towels. And the same thing happened with the curtains, the bedsheets, the leather couch that's also in sims2. And the indoors lightning seems to suffer from the same drawback as the radiance lightning mod for sims2. The objects near the light source glow and appear overexposed while those a few squares away are very dark. Maybe I don't play enough games to make a reasonable comparison of what is realistically achievable in terms of technology, but I find these issues very annoying, especially when we had very beautiful clean textures in Sims2 and the lightning was good even though it was not realistic. Maybe it's an issue with my card, or maybe it's just the way the game renders objects. But if that's the case I don't think it should render objects with lower quality when you're inside the lot. It's very annoying because things seem hazy. Just wanted to say that I have the same card and the same problem with grey textures that should be white... dunno if it's the game or the card though that does it... but I guess on the game. I know exactly what you mean. Ever play EA's Godfather on the PC? Same kind of hazy pixellated look to the graphics. The blurry textures in Sims 3 remind me of that game. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 21, 13:50:54 Anyone ever made it to the top of the science career? You get to do experiments on all the furniture, whic can either give beneficial effects like better comfort or roomscore, or set stuff on fire. Finally something good came out of this tedious work business.
BTW, anyone figured out how to get an omni plant at home? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 13:52:30 Let's put it this way. Peter has already made a "sort of" SimPE for sims 3. Er in a rudimentary non-user-friendly sort of way. But it already allows for the editing of files that will dictate stuff I have already mentioned, like the conditions for using particular objects, and how fast your bladder fills etc etc.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Dizzymental on 2009 May 21, 14:02:08 It's the modded sims skins for sims 3 that will really make a difference this time, I think.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 14:04:43 That's great news Inge!! I assume the objects work when put back in the game (IE don't need Digital Sigs.)? Any chance of it being made available for download? Maybe in the SimPE QA section? We don't know if the objects work when put back, because I am not running the pirate version in order to test it. However, it could be as good a time as any to release what we have, so someone can test it and report back. NB, This is a *modders* tool, not a player utility. Support will not be given to anyone without existing technical or game modding abilities. Other authors are planning player-targeted tools. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Honeywell on 2009 May 21, 14:09:22 I also have an issue with the dark shadows on the objects. I tried to make *white* towels but the result was more like dirty white towels. And the same thing happened with the curtains, the bedsheets, the leather couch that's also in sims2. Just wanted to say that I have the same card and the same problem with grey textures that should be white... dunno if it's the game or the card though that does it... but I guess on the game. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 21, 14:09:44 Yo, NOOBS. This is another warning to mind your manners. Spelling and grammar count. No wall of text, and don't double post. Try not to be morons, although I realize this is asking you to fight your natures. Those of you thinking "she doesn't mean me": I MEAN YOU.
Carry on. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 14:18:10 Sims3Tools, that up-till-now neglected site. It's nothing to do with SimPE so we won't burden Quaxi's server with it.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: simsdesperado on 2009 May 21, 14:59:24 If you want a crisp, clean looking white use a pattern without any texture. Under the Misc. tab there's one lonely swatch that's white. Try that. I already did that. The problem is that the alpha for the shadows for the said objects is too dark. My guess is they made it so it shows on dark colours as well. But for the light colours it is too dark. Also, the clean white does not look clean and white, it's more like a mix of pixelated white, cream, pink, grey and green. I repeat, I tried this without a texture. All white objects show this issue, including the fridge and the oven. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jack Rudd on 2009 May 21, 15:01:41 we waited 6 years for this???cmmon EA your kidding? (http://wikka.moreawesomethanyou.com/images/4/49/You%27re_cat.png) Quote oh no there not,that's how they to get you to buy more -except this has had years in the making? (http://wikka.moreawesomethanyou.com/images/0/07/They%27re_cat.png) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Honeywell on 2009 May 21, 15:05:43 If you want a crisp, clean looking white use a pattern without any texture. Under the Misc. tab there's one lonely swatch that's white. Try that. I already did that. The problem is that the alpha for the shadows for the said objects is too dark. My guess is they made it so it shows on dark colours as well. But for the light colours it is too dark. Also, the clean white does not look clean and white, it's more like a mix of pixelated white, cream, pink, grey and green. I repeat, I tried this without a texture. All white objects show this issue, including the fridge and the oven. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 21, 15:10:15 Some of you have already seen these images, but I wanted to share an interesting bug that happened to a toddler in game. :D
(http://nekonoai.mine.nu/sims3/Screenshot-4.jpg) (http://nekonoai.mine.nu/sims3/Screenshot-5.jpg) (http://nekonoai.mine.nu/sims3/Screenshot-6.jpg) I think she was trying to talk to her mom, who was on the couch in front of her. Since she already learned how to talk. But they kind of fucked the animation. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 21, 15:13:08 The more I see it, the more gruesome it gets.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 21, 15:14:29 That is just terrifying, hahaha!
I've seen something similar happen in TS2, but this is worse. :o Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Faizah on 2009 May 21, 15:15:30 I'm finding these stretched toddlers hilarious. They look like something out of sci-fi.
... Speaking of, I know it's a minor question with the wealth of crap to wade through, but do we have alien abductions in the game? Or any 'supernatural' element? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 21, 15:20:19 It sucks that it takes twice the number of old rotting newspapers now before the damn paper delivery kid will stop coming. Twice the number? You mean that pest actually STOPS after a certain point?Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Chloe on 2009 May 21, 15:21:31 It's really obnoxious that they pushed back the release date to "fix up the game", when it looks far more buggy than TS2 did (at least, that I remember -- it's been a long time since I played an unmodded TS2). I know they wanted to improve their profits and all, but it would have been nice if they actually did work on it some more. It really seems like this should be a beta version, though I know it isn't.
I wasn't planning on arrr'ing the game at all because downloading was taking a million years, but I'm reconsidering now. A game this buggy certainly isn't worth $50. Speaking of, I know it's a minor question with the wealth of crap to wade through, but do we have alien abductions in the game? Or any 'supernatural' element? I'm pretty sure there are no abductions -- ghosts are supposed to be the base game's 'supernatural' creature. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Soggy Fox on 2009 May 21, 15:26:27 Is it bad that I'm most bothered by the fact they couldn't be bothered to put in an upper and lower body slider? Come on, people. Both men and women have different proportions. And most overweight women I know do -not- have an A-cup chest. Plenty of other games have a teen rating and the ability to adjust the chest out. And even men have different proportions between hips and chest. No wonder our sims all look alike in 3
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Scotty on 2009 May 21, 15:39:34 Personally, I have no qualms about downloading it. It isn't the first time I've downloaded a game, and it certainly wont be the last. If a game is worth it, I will fork out the money for it. I'm sure this game is destined for the bargain bin at Kmart sooner or later. I may buy it then.
And they left out the freakin pool table, again! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 21, 15:42:44 I have noticed books disappearing after learning a new recipe. I figured that it should go in the bookcase for others to learn. What is up with costing 1000 simoleons for a book learning that cake, I forgot the name. Too high. Are we talking about the cook book series, or is this something else? When they finish a book -- any book -- that they own, they put it into their inventory. If you want them to put it on the bookshelf, go to their inventory and click on the book and choose "Put away." Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ThyGuy on 2009 May 21, 15:59:31 Can anyone else MARRY their sims? I can't seem to make it happen and it's driving me up the wall? Maybe I have that alpha version? How would I figure that out?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 21, 16:04:28 Can anyone else MARRY their sims? I can't seem to make it happen and it's driving me up the wall? Maybe I have that alpha version? How would I figure that out? I finally got mine engaged but it's tricky. See this post: If however you have been wondering why you can't propose steady relationship/woohoo/ask someone to move in at certain times, this MAY help. Or if you already know how this works and still can't find the stuff, then something is probably bugged/implemented crappily. Go EA! Basically, each method of chatting seems to have different tiers, with more interactions available with each successive tier. In the upper left it says what the person is currently thinking of the conversation. Friendly chatting starts with them "thinking [sim name] is okay." Next after that is thinking you are sociable and thinking you are friendly (can't remember which comes first). Flirting starts with "[sim name] is flirty", then followed by "is very alluring", and finally, "is extremely irresistible". From what I've seen, going steady only shows up with that very last stage, and I'm assuming marriage is the same. And you get to the next stage by doing the interactions in that grouping till it gets up there. Yes this means you usually can't just walk up to someone and do the woohoo interaction for example (unless you have specific traits blah blah blah). Hopefully this helps some people, and if stuff still isn't appearing when you think it should be, then I have no clue yet. I still haven't tried to get people married yet, so I don't exactly know where that is. I know I've seen "ask to move in" in the friendly section, and it is probably at one of the higher tiers of friendly chat. Edit: The interactions not appearing till higher tiers seems to apply at ALL times. Even if you have a sim as a romantic interest and with a very high relationship, it doesn't look like you can walk right up to them and make out/woohoo out of the blue. You have to go through each tier yada yada until you get to the right one and the interactions show up. Basically, you have to have a high enough relationship AND have them perform certain romantic interactions in order to get the option to come up. It's very annoying. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ThyGuy on 2009 May 21, 16:08:19 ROFL! That is ridiculous but at least I know how to know. thanks a bunch.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Faizah on 2009 May 21, 16:13:07 I'm pretty sure there are no abductions -- ghosts are supposed to be the base game's 'supernatural' creature. Bah. Ghosts. I'm assuming as playable, otherwise they'd be no different to Sims 1/2. But what can ghosts even do? "Ooh, look at me, I'm slightly see-through. Uh, I mean, BOO!" Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 21, 16:17:36 I don't think theres much need for custom eyes now that you can use the color wheel to set them to any color you please. Color is not the point. Making them look less toony is the point.Quote from: Inge Ok I now understand what is going on. LOL! If they just hired him in the first place, I doubt the game would have many bugs, and it would be moar playable by our standards. But I'm sure they couldn't pay him ENOUGH for the aggravation of having to deal with the idiots who want BFFs and other stupid things.EA leaked a "pirated" copy of the game, knowing that the type of people who would be attracted to gaining the game in this dastardly way are precisely the type of people most likely to track down bugs and tell Pescado about them. This way, Pescado can come up with solutions in time for EA to use his fixes in a patch very soon after the game comes out officially. It's all good, folks. Ah, I see bluesoup had the same thing happen to her toddler. :P That needs fixin! Quote from: Faizah Speaking of, I know it's a minor question with the wealth of crap to wade through, but do we have alien abductions in the game? Or any 'supernatural' element? No aliens. We have ghosts. I'm sure they'll add more later. :P You can have babbyz with ghosts apparently. :PQuote And they left out the freakin pool table, again! But there is foosball! :DQuote Is it bad that I'm most bothered by the fact they couldn't be bothered to put in an upper and lower body slider? I was actually wishing for this earlier!! Most people don't have evenly distributed fat. :PTitle: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Soggy Fox on 2009 May 21, 16:18:29 Two colours for eyes -would- be nice. As for what ghosts can do? Apparently they can cook.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 21, 16:21:15 Has anyone found the cheat that gets rid of the grid for placing objects and the cheat that allows full 360 degree placement?
I tried snapobjectstogrid false and all the combination I can think of, and I looked in the lessons and the help screen but I haven't found anything yet. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 21, 16:27:37 I had an interesting experience playing last evening. My Sim came out of work at City Hall, and this elder woman (no one my Sim knew) just dropped dead at the top of the steps. My Sim and others in the immediate area gathered around to mourn while Grimmie came to take her. The tombstone appeared briefly, then faded away after Grimmie left. My Sim got the want to visit the graveyard, so we went there the next day. Could not find the grave of the deceased. I don't know, it was all just kind of interesting. Oh, and also, some punk came up and insulted and taunted my Sim, I guess for her concern. :P She went home in a VERY bad mood.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 21, 16:31:01 Has anyone found the cheat that gets rid of the grid for placing objects and the cheat that allows full 360 degree placement? I tried snapobjectstogrid false and all the combination I can think of, and I looked in the lessons and the help screen but I haven't found anything yet. No cheat, just hold Alt while moving and turning as usual. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 21, 16:34:46 Quote Is it bad that I'm most bothered by the fact they couldn't be bothered to put in an upper and lower body slider? I was actually wishing for this earlier!! Most people don't have evenly distributed fat. :PEven worse? This was supposed to be in the game. Around February/March they took it out and never mentioned it again. I have to say, though -- these obese sims certainly don't look like they have A-cups. Still, what's with the quads from hell? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sammy on 2009 May 21, 16:39:41 I've noticed that a lot of furniture seems to have been taken directly from TS2 and recycled, but what else is new? This displeased me. I also noticed, as I was poking through the usual assortment of ugly window coverings, that windows actually bleed through. <snip> I tried a bunch of different window coverings, but the same thing happened to all of them. I didn't try different windows, but I can only assume, this is Eaxis afterall, that it's the same for all of them. Are you certain you didn't have the window facing the wrong direction? The ledge is on the inside and I don't think that's quite right. It was an Eaxis-made house and if you look closely you can see the little turny-handle-thing that is on the inside of windows, normally used to crank open the window. I also tested the same window-shade in a house that I had built, windows definitely facing the right direction. I'll go in and triple-check, though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 21, 16:40:55 You can make green-skinned Sims, but afaik that's the closest you get to aliens. >:(
Anyone else get error code 13 when trying to save? since it seems like the Technical Problems thread is only being used for install issues. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 21, 16:45:30 Can anyone else MARRY their sims? I can't seem to make it happen and it's driving me up the wall? Maybe I have that alpha version? How would I figure that out? My couple finally got married. They were in a romantic relationship and had woo-hooed, but I was stumped by the fact that their propose-type option was to go steady. I figured it must be because they were young adults, though that seemed stupid. However, it was still that way after they became adults. So I had one of them suggest going steady, which was accepted. Then they had to option to get engaged, so I got them engaged. Then they could either have a private ceremony, or throw a wedding party. I had them do a wedding party in the park. There is no wedding arch or wedding cake or champagne that I could find, but once everyone was there I clicked "get married," everyone gathered around, and they exchanged their vows and rings. I think it's really dumb they have to go steady first. No one above teens should have that option. But oh well, now I know. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 17:01:09 I haven't had any problems with getting my female sim to want to woohoo/marry one of the townies (shouldn't be difficult anyway considering that she's 1.) a hopeless romantic and 2.) very flirty and friendly), but sadly she wants to woohoo/marry the premade sim named Pauline Wan (or whatever the hell her name is) who's already engaged. Which wasn't stopping my sim, but something else made her sadden a bit.
One day, they were hanging out, and Pauline was without baby. The very next day they hung out, Pauline looked so pregnant, she appeared to be in the freaking third trimester already. My sim was obviously upset about this although she still rubbed Pauline's tummy. In any case, tribblebabies have finally infected my game. I'm starting to wonder if all adult female premades are shipped already pregnant. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VacantBlue on 2009 May 21, 17:06:22 I think it's really dumb they have to go steady first. No one above teens should have that option. But oh well, now I know. Sounds like EA's attempt to indicate that a couple is in a committed relationship although not engaged. I actually really wanted that option in TS2. On the other hand, "going steady" sounds a bit childish. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lerf on 2009 May 21, 17:16:40 If you want a crisp, clean looking white use a pattern without any texture. Under the Misc. tab there's one lonely swatch that's white. Try that. I already did that. The problem is that the alpha for the shadows for the said objects is too dark. My guess is they made it so it shows on dark colours as well. But for the light colours it is too dark. Also, the clean white does not look clean and white, it's more like a mix of pixelated white, cream, pink, grey and green. I repeat, I tried this without a texture. All white objects show this issue, including the fridge and the oven. Might be a difference between your monitors. I just upgraded from a 5+ year old CRT monitor to an LCD and it's amazing how different everything looks. I just discovered that the "black" roses in S2 are actually blue.... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 17:18:30 The definition of "rich" the game uses leaves much to be desired. I had a sim last night who was trolling for guys and had a conversation with Stiles McGraw. She discovered that he was rich. On move-in, he brought $900. I wouldn't call that rich. I'd call that destitute.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Peggy_Leggy on 2009 May 21, 17:21:14 If Sunset Valley is Pleasantview in the past, why didn't they name it Pleasantview? Good question. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 21, 17:22:48 The definition of "rich" the game uses leaves much to be desired. I had a sim last night who was trolling for guys and had a conversation with Stiles McGraw. She discovered that he was rich. On move-in, he brought $900. I wouldn't call that rich. I'd call that destitute. Did he live with his parents or others, possibly? Maybe it would have been different if she'd moved in with him? Just a thought. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SciBirg on 2009 May 21, 17:25:22 The definition of "rich" the game uses leaves much to be desired. I had a sim last night who was trolling for guys and had a conversation with Stiles McGraw. She discovered that he was rich. On move-in, he brought $900. I wouldn't call that rich. I'd call that destitute. Did he live with his parents or others, possibly? Maybe it would have been different if she'd moved in with him? Just a thought. Can you choose to move in with a townie? That would be sweet! I'd just make my sim live on an empty lot and troll for rich sims to mooch off of. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 17:27:04 The definition of "rich" the game uses leaves much to be desired. I had a sim last night who was trolling for guys and had a conversation with Stiles McGraw. She discovered that he was rich. On move-in, he brought $900. I wouldn't call that rich. I'd call that destitute. Did he live with his parents or others, possibly? Maybe it would have been different if she'd moved in with him? Just a thought. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Peggy_Leggy on 2009 May 21, 17:38:09 Sims are ugly and it's difficult for me to play if I can't stand the sims of the neighborhood. This is my concern. How emotionally invested in the game can we possibly become if we are disgusted by the way the characters look? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 17:45:34 This is my concern. How emotionally invested in the game can we possibly become if we are disgusted by the way the characters look? I found the Sims 2 sims ugly, and I suspect that is why I rarely played other than to test hacks. I find the Sims 3 far more realistic and attractive. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aner-Dyfan on 2009 May 21, 17:49:27 I'm finding that money isn't much of an issue. You can use other houses for washing/food etc. You can even sleep in them, but you risk the chance of being woken. This means you don't bother with a house with walls, save money that way (also walls cause loads of pathing issues) so you should have a large pool of money to work from initially allowing you to get several good items to ensure they get high powered moodlets this makes premotion easier to obtain and earn money.
Also when you aren't busy in that respect go find collectables, some are stupidly valuable. Like butterflies worth well over $1000. Or if you have the space get the klepto trait and steal valuable items from all houses you visit. All in all, money is harder to come by but the basic needs are so limited for your sims you don't need any money. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 21, 17:58:50 So, what you're saying is that even if we can't have a technically destitute homeless sim sleeping in parks (as pointed out by Zazazu) because of the need to replenish energy, we can have klepto-moocher sims that essentially live off other people?
That sounds like a fun idea. I'm glad I thought of it. (Now if only the verdammt download would finish some time before the actual bloody release date...) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SciBirg on 2009 May 21, 18:07:44 So, what you're saying is that even if we can't have a technically destitute homeless sim sleeping in parks (as pointed out by Zazazu) because of the need to replenish energy, we can have klepto-moocher sims that essentially live off other people? That sounds like a fun idea. I'm glad I thought of it. (Now if only the verdammt download would finish some time before the actual bloody release date...) Isn't there some kind of bonus/upgrade/reward thingy that fixes your energy needs too? Then you COULD have a hobo sim. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 21, 18:32:28 No more error 13. My guess is either it was just being borkeded that night, or it had something to do with saving over another file (I'd forgotten to rename it before saving- luckily, since it didn't work, I now have both 'hoods intact.)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 21, 18:33:30 LOL. This thread is full of win.
I am suffering from a bug that harks back to TS2; the camera spinning round and round really fast. Only way to fix it is to exit and restart. I really hate the Grim Reaper. TS2's is far superior. Not impressed, EAxis. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 21, 18:37:15 I have to admit I like the new camera controls. Having a button right there to tilt the camera instead of having to keyboard-shortcut into cameraman mode is convenient.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mildlydisguised on 2009 May 21, 18:48:24 I thought that sims would get their lifetime wish when they aged to teen. My child sim just had a lifetime Wish come up in the normal wishes panel, which when promised became his official lifetime wish. He has ten days before he ages to teen.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 21, 18:50:14 Perhaps we should also split off no-content disruptive trolly posts into a P&L AT THE FAIL thread, too, as they obscure the real reviews of TS3's suckfulness (which is probably the goal). Does it help if I say that I personally like the fact that the TS3 ghosts seem to be a bit more on the visible side. Now, if only someone could figure out what happens with the disappearing tombstones... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 18:50:34 So, what you're saying is that even if we can't have a technically destitute homeless sim sleeping in parks (as pointed out by Zazazu) because of the need to replenish energy, we can have klepto-moocher sims that essentially live off other people? Except that klepto doesn't work, as you don't actually get the items. Mooch works well, as does eating the free food in the main park or harvestables available all around.Getting a sim happy about their environment is easy. Just collect a few gems and have them cut. I had a room go from no environment bonus to beautifully decorated with just four gemstones. Also, eat more beans. Your bacteria will get used to them. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mildlydisguised on 2009 May 21, 18:53:59 Stolen items (by Kleptos) go into the family inventory not the personal one, although I think in order to use the family inventory (in buy/build mode) the camera will pull back to the home lot automatically. Not sure how that would work with a homeless sim.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Avi on 2009 May 21, 19:05:46 Is everyone 100% sure that this leaked copy isn't a beta? Because I may just send my purchased copy back if I find out this is indeed the final cut. However, I'm keeping the plumbbob flash drive. X^DDD
I've played the game about an hour and am less impressed than I was originally. I still can't get over how ugly the Sims themselves are as many others have said. They look better in CAS then the do in the game, but still not a huge improvement . . . To me what they look like is big chunk of the game. Not only that but this game is not catered to the story & movie makers AT ALL . . . I believe it's going to be super difficult to do either in this game. And it's hard to care about your characters when they're fugly as hell anyways, so how can you create a good story around them??? X^D To me the toony Sims from Sims 2 seem more realistic facially than these Playdoh looking Sims from Sims 3. :^\ What really annoyed me though was the fact some of the comm lots weren't visible . . . as in your Sims disappeared when they went inside a building. That just doesn't seem right. That's why I'm wondering if this is really a beta or something . . . The animations of the Sims are very wonky too, very stiff . . . A lot less fluid and natural than Sims 2, even though you'd think the reverse would be true. They are definitely more toony than they were in Sims 2, though you'd think the opposite would be true. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 21, 19:10:11 Would you sheep shut up about the rabbit hole buildings? We've known from what, Day 2 that EA was making buildings like these? Can't you morons check a single video game website? Complain about other crap all you want. If we've known about it for months, then no one really gives a shit. We're here to complain about broken promises or basic gameplay flaws. Not crap that we knew was coming from the beginning.
Oh, and by the way you religious dipshit, if atheists don't believe in a god, what makes you think they're going to believe in his idiot half brother that lives down in the ground in a pit of fire? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 21, 19:28:08 Yeah the people complaining about the existence of rabbit holes must have REALLY not paid any attention to info about the game, we've known about them for a looooong time.
So, what you're saying is that even if we can't have a technically destitute homeless sim sleeping in parks (as pointed out by Zazazu) because of the need to replenish energy, we can have klepto-moocher sims that essentially live off other people? Except that klepto doesn't work, as you don't actually get the items. Mooch works well, as does eating the free food in the main park or harvestables available all around.Here is some more handy info about klepto, since my first sim had the trait: You can only steal at night. I'm thinking it's from 7PM-6 or 7 AM or something like that. You can only steal three items per day. To steal stuff, you have to go to another lot (I'm wondering actually if you can steal a car that someone has driven over to your lot and parked in your parking spot; I have to test this) and click on the ground near an object, like you were walking there. The interaction "swipe something" should show up. You can't swipe stuff if someone is nearby. I dunno how close/far away they need to be though. And no, you can't choose what to steal. They pretty much go after whatever they want within the room. For example, my inappropriate klepto rockstar has some fascination with stealing lights of all kinds. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Avi on 2009 May 21, 19:42:20 Sorry, was too distracted being horrified by the BUTT UGLY SIMS to look further into the nuances of the game!
I never read about the "rabbit hole buildings". I only read it was going to be a "seamless neighborhood" and one would assume that means being able to actually GO INTO every freakin' lot. So I would say the "rabbit hole buildings" fall into the broken promises category simply from that reason. "Rabbit hole buildings" do not equal seamless gameplay. But oh, well. I'll probably return the game if I confirm this version is indeed THE final cut of Sims 3 and continue working on Sims 2 until it's back to it's old glory. :^P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: NakedNickJonas on 2009 May 21, 19:45:03 I have been playing for a day and this game is AWFUL!
What has EA done to The Sims? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: EsotericPolarBear on 2009 May 21, 19:54:06 I have been playing for a day and this game is AWFUL! What has EA done to The Sims? It's not awful. It's just not good. It has loads of potential...but in typical EAxis fashion, the potential is just that...potential. They had some good ideas but didn't bother to flesh any of them out beyond the basic implementation. So you end up with a lot of things you can do, but not enough gravity in doing them. Overall, I'd say it's not worth switching from TS2 since you lose far too much. I'll wait till they've made a few dozen EPs, then I'll buy the TS3 Super-Ultra-Deluxe from the bargain bin. Maybe it'll be worth playing by then. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Wolf on 2009 May 21, 20:01:22 Thanks for reinforcing my decision NOT to buy Sims3. I'll stick with Sims2.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 21, 20:02:25 Is it just me or is the ultra speed mostly just useless? It always shuts off on me and doesn't tend to go much faster than speed 3 for the brief periods in which it actually stays selected.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: EsotericPolarBear on 2009 May 21, 20:06:10 Is it just me or is the ultra speed mostly just useless? It always shuts off on me and doesn't tend to go much faster than speed 3 for the brief periods in which it actually stays selected. It's not faster than 3. It's just temporary speed 3. It only stays active for the current action then reverts to previous speed. The game explains these things quite clearly. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 21, 20:08:43 I wish parts of this were more intuitive: some of the opportunities that come up are a bit of a headscratcher as to how you're supposed to accomplish them. Like taking your boss's dinner date out for for dinner yourself. I missed the deadline simply because I couldn't figure out how it was done.
I love how there are so many multi-tasking things now though. I had one Sim upgrading the TV to be unbreakable while his wife was watching it, holding her toddler. And dragging the contents of your inventory onto the bookshelf to put them away, or the fridge or bathtub to put those away is made of win also. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 20:13:20 Well, apparently one of the klepto sims decided to make his/her way onto the forum to justify kleptomania by saying Jesus allows it as long as it's paid for later. ::)
Quote Is it just me or is the ultra speed mostly just useless? It always shuts off on me and doesn't tend to go much faster than speed 3 for the brief periods in which it actually stays selected. Yeah, several (including me) have pointed this out. As far as I can tell, regular ultra speed is just a tiny bit faster than normal play, fast speed (whatever the middle speed is called again; I never really use it) doesn't seem to work at all, and ultra plus is supposed to be ultra speed that stops when the action your sim is doing is completed...and big whopping surprise -- it doesn't work most of the time. Sometimes it acts just like ultra (although without the stop), and sometimes it just forces me back over into ultra speed (which can't be intended play, I hope). New bug? Has anyone been offered one of the skilling challenges? Ethan Bunch wanted to pay me to grill his lazy ass some hot dogs and bring them to him. I did as asked and delivered them to him, but when I got there, it wouldn't allow me to give them to him because I "don't have all of the ingredients (or whatever the hell it said) in my inventory" even though I did as asked. Another shitty bug or just confusing gameplay? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 21, 20:14:58 Is it just me or is the ultra speed mostly just useless? It always shuts off on me and doesn't tend to go much faster than speed 3 for the brief periods in which it actually stays selected. It's not faster than 3. It's just temporary speed 3. It only stays active for the current action then reverts to previous speed. The game explains these things quite clearly. Oh -- I just assumed when EA talked about an ultra speed that was even faster than speed 3, they would, I dunno, include it in the game or something crazy like that... eta: so is the 4th speed actually faster than speed 3 or just speed three for the duration of queued tasks? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Piffle on 2009 May 21, 20:22:09 Is it just me or is the ultra speed mostly just useless? It always shuts off on me and doesn't tend to go much faster than speed 3 for the brief periods in which it actually stays selected. eta: so is the 4th speed actually faster than speed 3 or just speed three for the duration of queued tasks?It's the latter. Speed 3 until the current task is complete. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rockermonkey on 2009 May 21, 20:33:17 Speed 4 is used at the same speed as 3, but instead of you being in control of when it stops, it stops when the action for the sim selected is done :) Its the default for going to sleep or work, I've heard.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: dashakatrina on 2009 May 21, 20:35:05 anyone ever stumbled apon a link that was on the new sims 3 site where the sims store was located
thr was a kid on snooty that by mistake stumbled across a link that had sims 3 custom content packages to download the forum topic got deleted of course anyone remember that ? lol Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 20:35:47 If it's supposed to default into that while your sim sleeps or works, then it sure isn't doing its damn job. Mine works sporadically.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 20:37:24 What really annoyed me though was the fact some of the comm lots weren't visible . . . as in your Sims disappeared when they went inside a building. That just doesn't seem right. That's why I'm wondering if this is really a beta or something . . . The animations of the Sims are very wonky too, very stiff . . . A lot less fluid and natural than Sims 2, even though you'd think the reverse would be true. They are definitely more toony than they were in Sims 2, though you'd think the opposite would be true. Why do people keep saying this is proof the version out is beta? In all of the developer interviews, game reviews, etc, for the past year, it was explained that most of the community buildings were rabbit holes. List of knowns with backup sources. (http://thesims3facts.webs.com/factsconfirmed.htm) Now, some things have changed from initial reports, but rabbit holes were always in there. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 21, 20:39:46 What really annoyed me though was the fact some of the comm lots weren't visible . . . as in your Sims disappeared when they went inside a building. That just doesn't seem right. That's why I'm wondering if this is really a beta or something . . . The animations of the Sims are very wonky too, very stiff . . . A lot less fluid and natural than Sims 2, even though you'd think the reverse would be true. They are definitely more toony than they were in Sims 2, though you'd think the opposite would be true. Why do people keep saying this is proof the version out is beta? In all of the developer interviews, game reviews, etc, for the past year, it was explained that most of the community buildings were rabbit holes. List of knowns with backup sources. (http://thesims3facts.webs.com/factsconfirmed.htm) Now, some things have changed from initial reports, but rabbit holes were always in there. From #grah this afternoon: [15:16] <jfade> Also, this shoots those people saying this is a beta in the foot: [15:16] <jfade> <packagedate>05/14/2008 13:20:18</packagedate> [15:16] <jfade> that's saved in a resource within the package. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: literatebse on 2009 May 21, 20:42:19 What really annoyed me though was the fact some of the comm lots weren't visible . . . as in your Sims disappeared when they went inside a building. That just doesn't seem right. That's why I'm wondering if this is really a beta or something . . . The animations of the Sims are very wonky too, very stiff . . . A lot less fluid and natural than Sims 2, even though you'd think the reverse would be true. They are definitely more toony than they were in Sims 2, though you'd think the opposite would be true. Why do people keep saying this is proof the version out is beta? In all of the developer interviews, game reviews, etc, for the past year, it was explained that most of the community buildings were rabbit holes. List of knowns with backup sources. (http://thesims3facts.webs.com/factsconfirmed.htm) Now, some things have changed from initial reports, but rabbit holes were always in there. From #grah this afternoon: [15:16] <jfade> Also, this shoots those people saying this is a beta in the foot: [15:16] <jfade> <packagedate>05/14/2008 13:20:18</packagedate> [15:16] <jfade> that's saved in a resource within the package. You know that's a year ago....right? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 21, 20:44:10 It would have been cool if VirtueThroughGod had posted the #666 post....
About the dead people, i think their tombs are in the mausoleum, you can grab them and take them to your house, or put one from your home in there. The last also make the ghost not to appear again. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: HomeschooledByTards on 2009 May 21, 20:57:20 What really annoyed me though was the fact some of the comm lots weren't visible . . . as in your Sims disappeared when they went inside a building. That just doesn't seem right. That's why I'm wondering if this is really a beta or something . . . The animations of the Sims are very wonky too, very stiff . . . A lot less fluid and natural than Sims 2, even though you'd think the reverse would be true. They are definitely more toony than they were in Sims 2, though you'd think the opposite would be true. Why do people keep saying this is proof the version out is beta? In all of the developer interviews, game reviews, etc, for the past year, it was explained that most of the community buildings were rabbit holes. List of knowns with backup sources. (http://thesims3facts.webs.com/factsconfirmed.htm) Now, some things have changed from initial reports, but rabbit holes were always in there. From #grah this afternoon: [15:16] <jfade> Also, this shoots those people saying this is a beta in the foot: [15:16] <jfade> <packagedate>05/14/2008 13:20:18</packagedate> [15:16] <jfade> that's saved in a resource within the package. You know that's a year ago....right? Duuuurrrrr. I apologize for the blatant reading comprehension phial. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rockermonkey on 2009 May 21, 21:00:28 Well the site is still open :) http://llnw.thesims3.com/myPage/Rockermonkey999
Tehe My profile from when it was still fully opened. But I don't remember that post, I do remember the store though ;] Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 21, 21:01:49 About the dead people, i think their tombs are in the mausoleum, you can grab them and take them to your house, or put one from your home in there. The last also make the ghost not to appear again. Naturally I had to go check this out, and I can confirm this. If you go to the mausoleum with a grave in your inventory, you get the option to "Manage the Dead". You can put in/take out graves from there.Could the people that have had sims randomly die, go to the mausoleum in the middle of the graveyard and check to see if that option is there? Maybe these graves that you can't find get automatically put into there? If not, can you get a grave somehow, do the manage the dead option, and see if they show up then? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: geekily on 2009 May 21, 21:03:02 Wow, I played this for about 20 minutes before promptly switching back to Sims 2. It's so laughably bad and ADD that I'm not even disappointed, just amused, really.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kralore on 2009 May 21, 21:03:53 I wish parts of this were more intuitive: some of the opportunities that come up are a bit of a headscratcher as to how you're supposed to accomplish them. Like taking your boss's dinner date out for for dinner yourself. I missed the deadline simply because I couldn't figure out how it was done. When in the neighborhood view map. at the bottom is the filter panel. If you select "Home and Work" It shows home, workplace, and appears to also show the location of any current opportunities. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 21, 21:04:20 I guess EA did a nice job with handling the graveyard/dead people then. Too bad the graveyard they gave us has practically no room for newcomers. At least you can make another graveyard if you need to. (the rabbithole buildings are in the community lot category while on a community lot)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: zceepy on 2009 May 21, 21:10:14 What then heck is it with the randomly spawning babies? I decided to have a go at playing two houses at once. So I leave my green skinned sim alone for a day - literally just a day - while I play the house opposite then I send my current sim over to visit and there's a flipping green baby on the floor. I switch households to see if I could find out who the father was and there wasn't one. This sim had only existed for three days in total, barely knew anyone and had magically spawned a baby...
Sorry EA, was just starting to enjoy myself but I refuse to have my sims performing mytosis... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 21, 21:13:53 About the dead people, i think their tombs are in the mausoleum, you can grab them and take them to your house, or put one from your home in there. The last also make the ghost not to appear again. Naturally I had to go check this out, and I can confirm this. If you go to the mausoleum with a grave in your inventory, you get the option to "Manage the Dead". You can put in/take out graves from there.Could the people that have had sims randomly die, go to the mausoleum in the middle of the graveyard and check to see if that option is there? Maybe these graves that you can't find get automatically put into there? If not, can you get a grave somehow, do the manage the dead option, and see if they show up then? I can confirm that if a close friend of your family dies, you can take his tomb from there. Dont know about people you have not met. What im going to check (when i have time) is if every dead sims in the family trees is in the graveyard. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 21:19:19 I wish parts of this were more intuitive: some of the opportunities that come up are a bit of a headscratcher as to how you're supposed to accomplish them. Like taking your boss's dinner date out for for dinner yourself. I missed the deadline simply because I couldn't figure out how it was done. When in the neighborhood view map. at the bottom is the filter panel. If you select "Home and Work" It shows home, workplace, and appears to also show the location of any current opportunities. Well, then mine must be bugged because Ethan's home just came up as him being home, not the opportunity I was supposed to complete with him. There was no indication whatsoever, and I couldn't complete the task anyway. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: dashakatrina on 2009 May 21, 21:20:30 not sure if someone posted this or not
it seems sims 3 leaked version seems to be real http://www.gametrailers.com/news/the-sims-3-leaked/882 Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 21, 21:20:55 Yays! Wallpaper and flooring is designable. Fences are not. You have to choose and place the wallpaper first, then choose the palette. Discovered this by accident when redoing a livingroom in lime and green due to sim color preference. Which, of course, has no effect on environment score. Though I'm sure Gali will find a way to "proove" that it does.
Of a controlled sim dies on a community lot, the grave does appear in place on the community lot. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sammy on 2009 May 21, 21:24:17 So, about those windows. I went back into the game and found that Eaxis, indeed, doesn't playtest their games at all.The window coverings bleed through the window on both sides, not just the inside frame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/LadyDea/Screenshot-9.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/LadyDea/Screenshot-10.jpg This happens to a handful of the other window coverings as well - for this window, at least. In any case, one window is too many. I started a new "neighbourhood" and have been playing with only one sim. Even in TS2 I find it much easier to play with one sim or two sims. What I'm wondering, though, what is the max number of sims in one household? Is it still eight? Something I found amusing: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/LadyDea/Screenshot-11.jpg) I heard a gasp and some bubbling only to find my sims with her head under water. I thought for a moment she was drowning herself, but no, she had just dunked her head under water. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 21, 21:28:56 Sammy that pic is funny. I do hope someone is able to figure out how to get rid of the censor
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 21:40:21 Quote This happens to a handful of the other window coverings as well - for this window, at least. In any case, one window is too many. Interesting. Mine shows no bleedthrough. Actually the only weird "bleedthrough" I'm seeing is the same warped water reflection that others are reporting. God, does it look strange when my sim walks by water. I can't believe they didn't fix that...oh wait. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sammy on 2009 May 21, 21:46:34 Quote This happens to a handful of the other window coverings as well - for this window, at least. In any case, one window is too many. Interesting. Mine shows no bleedthrough. Actually the only weird "bleedthrough" I'm seeing is the same warped water reflection that others are reporting. God, does it look strange when my sim walks by water. I can't believe they didn't fix that...oh wait. Hmm, that is puzzling. I haven't noticed any graphics issues besides the window coverings, but it was too much as to ask for a well-working game, I suppose. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 21, 21:49:46 About the dead people, i think their tombs are in the mausoleum, you can grab them and take them to your house, or put one from your home in there. The last also make the ghost not to appear again. Naturally I had to go check this out, and I can confirm this. If you go to the mausoleum with a grave in your inventory, you get the option to "Manage the Dead". You can put in/take out graves from there.Could the people that have had sims randomly die, go to the mausoleum in the middle of the graveyard and check to see if that option is there? Maybe these graves that you can't find get automatically put into there? If not, can you get a grave somehow, do the manage the dead option, and see if they show up then? When my Sim went to the graveyard after seeing someone die on the steps of City Hall, she looked for the grave but could not find it. She then took a tour of the mausoleum, which was a rabbit hole, of course. There was no option to manage the dead. Of course, she did not know this woman (though I did make note of the name), so this could have been why there was no option. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rockermonkey on 2009 May 21, 21:51:27 In EA's pictures and video it has water bleed through, so they know about it, they're just wicked lazy.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 22:00:41 In EA's pictures and video it has water bleed through, so they know about it, they're just wicked lazy. This should be very apparent after so many years of Sims-related bugs! ;D Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: raptureswild on 2009 May 21, 22:05:15 This was asked several pages back, but I never saw a proper response.
Is it just my computer, my copy of the software, or my retardedness that is causing the game to run, AT ULTRA SPEED, at roughly the same or slightly slower pace as Sims1/2 speed 2? If the game is this excruciatingly slow-paced, it's WORSE than the loading screens from TS2; I can only watch my sim sleep for so long before I want to scoop out my eyes with a spoon. It could be my computer, I've only got a gig of RAM and am running Vista, but it's not lagging or skipping or indicating in any other way that it's my PC speed causing the problem. I just have most of the graphics settings on medium. HALP Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 21, 22:09:16 This was asked several pages back, but I never saw a proper response. Is it just my computer, my copy of the software, or my retardedness that is causing the game to run, AT ULTRA SPEED, at roughly the same or slightly slower pace as Sims1/2 speed 2? If the game is this excruciatingly slow-paced, it's WORSE than the loading screens from TS2; I can only watch my sim sleep for so long before I want to scoop out my eyes with a spoon. It could be my computer, I've only got a gig of RAM and am running Vista, but it's not lagging or skipping or indicating in any other way that it's my PC speed causing the problem. I just have most of the graphics settings on medium. HALP I think it's just you. Mine runs at fast speed just fine. You don't have nearly enough RAM for Vista + TS3. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 22:12:10 This was asked several pages back, but I never saw a proper response. Is it just my computer, my copy of the software, or my retardedness that is causing the game to run, AT ULTRA SPEED, at roughly the same or slightly slower pace as Sims1/2 speed 2? If the game is this excruciatingly slow-paced, it's WORSE than the loading screens from TS2; I can only watch my sim sleep for so long before I want to scoop out my eyes with a spoon. It could be my computer, I've only got a gig of RAM and am running Vista, but it's not lagging or skipping or indicating in any other way that it's my PC speed causing the problem. I just have most of the graphics settings on medium. HALP I think it's just you. Mine runs at fast speed just fine. You don't have nearly enough RAM for Vista + TS3. No, it isn't just them, and I thought several people have talked about this same thing in this thread? I'm experiencing it, too, and I have 3 Gigs of RAM. Nothing else is lagging or choppy; it's just that the speed buttons work only occasionally and only for some people, it seems. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lyn on 2009 May 21, 22:33:59 This was asked several pages back, but I never saw a proper response. Is it just my computer, my copy of the software, or my retardedness that is causing the game to run, AT ULTRA SPEED, at roughly the same or slightly slower pace as Sims1/2 speed 2? If the game is this excruciatingly slow-paced, it's WORSE than the loading screens from TS2; I can only watch my sim sleep for so long before I want to scoop out my eyes with a spoon. It could be my computer, I've only got a gig of RAM and am running Vista, but it's not lagging or skipping or indicating in any other way that it's my PC speed causing the problem. I just have most of the graphics settings on medium. HALP I think it's just you. Mine runs at fast speed just fine. You don't have nearly enough RAM for Vista + TS3. I'm having the same issue, and I have 4GB of RAM and my game is showing no other signs of lagging with all graphic settings on high. Speeds 2 and 3 are exactly the same as speed 1 for me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 21, 22:36:44 I have 2GB of RAM (not amazing, but usually enough to run things decently, especially since I'm on XP) and speeds 2 and 3 do very little for me.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 21, 22:43:18 They work totally fine for me. I have noticed that sometimes, depending on what they're doing, they slow down a tiny bit, but other than that they do work as they're supposed to.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: ShortyBoo on 2009 May 21, 22:59:57 I think I finally figured out why my game keeps crashing. I thought it was a video card issue at first, but I posted at a tech forum with all my computer specs and they said it was my psu. I have a 630 watt Linkworld LPG2-43 which I got at a computer shop down the street back in February. After upgrading from an x1900 to my Radeon HD 4850, my old 500 watt wouldn't power on my computer and none of the local stores (including the big chains) sold power supplies over 500 watts, so I got it there. They told me my current power supply is meant for AGP set-ups, not PCI-e because there's not enough 12v amps. So I ordered a new Corsair 650 watt from NewEgg.
I just came from S2C/MTS2 and they're going warn/ban happy over there. I just posted about what things I hope are fixed soon (based on what other people are saying since I can't even play the game) and I got a warning claiming I asked for help installing an illegal copy or helped someone else do so, which I didn't, so I have no idea what's going on. I'll just steer clear from there until the official release date. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 21, 23:03:26 Mine have worked properly only a handful of times since first starting the game.
It looks like some of us are getting bugs that others aren't getting, and some are getting the same bugs except in different ways. Quote I just came from S2C/MTS2 and they're going warn/ban happy over there. I just posted about what things I hope are fixed soon (based on what other people are saying since I can't even play the game) and I got a warning claiming I asked for help installing an illegal copy or helped someone else do so, which I didn't, so I have no idea what's going on. I'll just steer clear from there until the official release date. Yikes. It's always nice to receive a warning about something you didn't actually do. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 21, 23:06:26 Well I guess that's why they call them bugs hehe.
It's not really a good idea to talk illegal stuff on any forum really, other than here (or anywhere where the hosting company doesn't care). It can affect their hosting agreements, their relationships with the EA bastards, etc. You might not have been talking about playing it, but knowing a lot about the workings of the game does imply you obtained it illegally, doesn't it? ETA: Cool, my sim started a fire on the stove and it burnt the counter next to it too! Way more realistic. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Inge on 2009 May 21, 23:22:26 You might not have been talking about playing it, but knowing a lot about the workings of the game does imply you obtained it illegally, doesn't it? I don't agree, because so many people are sharing info that it's not hard to find loads of stuff just by reading, and then pass on the info. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 21, 23:26:01 Maybe so, but I wouldn't blame them for being extra careful.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: LFox on 2009 May 21, 23:45:53 I think the lifetime want Gold Digger might be broken. Unless you need a really high amount of wealth. As soon as a married sim dies their relationship is changed to fiance might be broken entirely if they both die i don't know.
I tried getting my sim to see the dead sim normally and i even resurrected him as a playable ghost neither worked. After resurrecting him as a playable ghost they were fiance's but they couldn't marry again. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 21, 23:53:52 Hey, guess what I just found?! A bug.
Kinda teensy but still... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/castrostaal/sims%203/Screenshot-6.jpg) He's supposed to be patting his fat tummy. Instead, his fat tummy is patting him. And not in a good way. His hands have disappeared inside himself. It happened every time I toggled thin/fat. Oh yeah, and did you all know that BELTS are recolourable? I thought that was pretty cool. I just built a family of three and I had a lot of fun doing it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: gyrobot on 2009 May 21, 23:54:25 So any idea what are the minerals for once refined?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Gelina on 2009 May 22, 00:21:06 It could be my computer, I've only got a gig of RAM and am running Vista, but it's not lagging or skipping or indicating in any other way that it's my PC speed causing the problem. I just have most of the graphics settings on medium. HALP I'm having the same issue, and I have 4GB of RAM and my game is showing no other signs of lagging with all graphic settings on high. Speeds 2 and 3 are exactly the same as speed 1 for me.I also have Vista (4GB) and the game clock runs extremely slow for me at all speeds. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 22, 00:39:04 Hm, I haven't been able to figure out if I can only play the one selfmade sim, or if I can add another one to the town. Kind of sucks if I can only have one selfmade sim/family per saved town/game. Yeesh.
Yeah, noticed that long hair sticks through hoodies, too, as has happened in the past with Sims 1 and 2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 22, 00:53:35 I've seen the same bug on female fat sims around town.
There's a ghost of one of the Landgraabs who comes to the Kennedy household almost every night. By car. Yeah... I was starting to suspect that locking the have boy/girl want promised resulted in that sex of baby, as it fulfilled my first three sim pregnancies. Then, my current married couple both had the want for a girl promised, and they had twin boys instead. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 22, 00:53:53 Hm, I haven't been able to figure out if I can only play the one selfmade sim, or if I can add another one to the town. Kind of sucks if I can only have one selfmade sim/family per saved town/game. Yeesh. Yeah, noticed that long hair sticks through hoodies, too, as has happened in the past with Sims 1 and 2. If you read this thread you might find out~ :P j/k I think what I read in here earlier is that you have to click on the "..." button and then click on "edit neighborhood", and then there is an option to switch families or something like that? edit: Or, oh. Maybe that doesn't work for being able to create new families. It doesn't seem likely though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: gyrobot on 2009 May 22, 00:54:41 I was wondering what are the minerals for after you refine them? Just decorations?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Marhis on 2009 May 22, 01:28:04 I bit the bullet and I've played for a few hours so far.
I want to look at the bright side, remembering when I played TS2 the first time, and I felt uneasy, because of the novelty. I still feel better playing TS2, just like I felt about TS1, back in those days, until I was a little more experienced in TS2. Still, I'm not intrigued enough, now, about TS3. It's weird, because up to a certain point, I could be an ideal TS3 player: I don't mind realism at all, I like cartoonish sims and maxis-match stuff; I don't care about skilling and game goals; I also love to watch the sims doing their stuff on their own. In short, I'm totally the opposite of those who like to micromanage and tell their sims what to do. Fine; for players like me, this game - AFAICK - is crap. So far, it's extremely disappointing. I love to watch sims doing stuff autonomously, even important ones; I'm not their overlord, but a sort of helper: you want to marry that guy? I hate him, but ok, I will marry you; you want to spawn babies? Fine, you'll have them, and so on. That's the point: I like to WATCH them do stuff, not learn it by newspaper titles or something like that. I played the Goths and then the Bachelors for 2 days, and Mortimer and Bella were both at 4 days before aging up when I left. I then sent my CAS sim to chat with a neighbor for a while and the next day both Mortimer and Bella were teens. WTF?? The only way to play I can spot is playing compulsively every household for max 1 day and then switch to another, to keep up with their frenzy. Or having many games, each one with only 2 household played, but it would result in a confusing mess. I passed the most of the playing time taking notes of the most important mods it will require for me enjoing this game. First will be the new interaction "Punch in da face the moron who makes silly faces all the time". Really, I already hate this with a passion. Apparently in my game everyone thinks this is the best interaction ever, and keeps doing it all the time, wherever they are. And no, it CAN'T BE tight pants :(. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Scotty on 2009 May 22, 01:34:14 I was able to make a 2nd household. I just went into edit town, created a new sim, moved him in and changed active household. The other Sim lost his wishes and whatnot, but I was able to switch between them. I really have no idea what the hell they were thinking with that little feature. I can also play any of the premade Sims in the NHood when I select change active household. Took me awhile to figure all that out though. Stupid annoying feature.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 22, 01:51:22 Is it wrong that I have major schadenfreude over "Render Girl" not being in the game? I was hanging around snooty sims a few months back watching people try to convince themselves the game wasn't being delayed, and the obsession with render girl was really disturbing.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 22, 02:00:35 The Snooty Sims forums are just disturbing in general, anyway. :-\
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 02:06:57 Has anyone been able to move the screen from side to side, etc? I mean using the cursor at the sides or top/bottom to just move the screen. I can tilt and rotate, but I can't just use the cursor to move view. Kind of frustrating having to rotate and zoom to see what the hell they are doing.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mixreality on 2009 May 22, 02:08:53 There's an 'Edge scrolling' option somewhere, probably in 'game' or 'display' option.
And you can move view with clicking the right mouse button too. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Scotty on 2009 May 22, 02:09:18 Has anyone been able to move the screen from side to side, etc? I mean using the cursor at the sides or top/bottom to just move the screen. I can tilt and rotate, but I can't just use the cursor to move view. Kind of frustrating having to rotate and zoom to see what the hell they are doing. You have to go under options and select edge scrolling under gameplay. I wonder who the genius was that thought to have that off by default. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 02:12:10 Has anyone been able to move the screen from side to side, etc? I mean using the cursor at the sides or top/bottom to just move the screen. I can tilt and rotate, but I can't just use the cursor to move view. Kind of frustrating having to rotate and zoom to see what the hell they are doing. You have to go under options and select edge scrolling under gameplay. I wonder who the genius was that thought to have that off by default. Thank you Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Celestra on 2009 May 22, 02:14:49 Still slowly downloading , but reading about the pathing /routing does this basically mean we have to go back to Sims1 style and put 2 doors in every room so they can move in and out properly .
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: GayJohnScarritt on 2009 May 22, 02:19:56 It's not only the doors, they could have a 2-tile wide hallway (or turning a corner in a larger room) and if two sims going in opposite directions meet, they'll stand in front of each other until one decides to go around the other. grrr
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 22, 02:23:52 Still slowly downloading , but reading about the pathing /routing does this basically mean we have to go back to Sims1 style and put 2 doors in every room so they can move in and out properly . Routing issues/bathroom issues, let me sho u them: http://i44.tinypic.com/1z6yyat.jpg (Sorry, the picture is enormous.) One interesting thing about aging kidlets: you can age them at any time as long as you don't mind 'negative' traits. I did that with this family's youngest set of twins. One was assigned the cowardly trait, the other the technophobe trait. Still - they were able to feed themselves, so I was happy. You may be able to pick traits if they have been taught all toddler skills. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Scotty on 2009 May 22, 02:26:37 Yep, they still stomp their stupid feet when they cant get to something. I thought they were supposed to be smarter? And their need bars drop FAST. I gave a couple of them iron bladders with their reward points, so at least they dont have to pee anymore.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lerf on 2009 May 22, 02:32:26 This is awful. I'm a respectable coven-going middle aged lady. And I'm seriously considering downloading pirated softwar. (Of course 80% of the software I had for my C vic-20 and C65, and my Amiga was pirated, but that was different. Sorta.....
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 22, 02:33:06 Remember one of the very first pictures of TS3 we saw that showed a fireplace with half-grid tile placed around it? Yeah, impossible to do in the end. ::)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 22, 02:33:34 Well I guess that's why they call them bugs hehe. It's not really a good idea to talk illegal stuff on any forum really, other than here (or anywhere where the hosting company doesn't care). It can affect their hosting agreements, their relationships with the EA bastards, etc. You might not have been talking about playing it, but knowing a lot about the workings of the game does imply you obtained it illegally, doesn't it? Oh, I agree you should always be cautious when talking to people online. I have a personal rule not to take advice from known headcases. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 22, 02:42:50 This is awful. I'm a respectable coven-going middle aged lady. And I'm seriously considering downloading pirated softwar. (Of course 80% of the software I had for my C vic-20 and C65, and my Amiga was pirated, but that was different. Sorta..... You can't fool us with that veneer of respectability. We've noticed that if we say your name backwards it's actually a cuss-word from Farscape (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/farscape/swearing/clip0.shtml). Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: linz on 2009 May 22, 02:55:51 So I Have been playing TS3 for about 3 days now and here are some thoughts and issues I have.
My ultra speeds are not working well either and my computer is is well above the recommended specs. My sims are spawning children randomly and are also only showing up with one parent. (its like the Virgin Mary only its the Virgin Sims!) one instance I can explain sort of is: SimFemale1 was married to SimMale1 and got pregnant, SimMale1 cheated and got SimFemale2 pregnant, SimFemale1 "divorced" SimMale1 before giving birth. Once both SimFemales gave birth SimFemale1 was the only parent showing for her child while SimFemale2's child had her and SimMale1 showing up as parents (SimFemale2 and SimMale1 were never married). I'm not sure if that happened in TS2 but if you buy an inferno birthday cake you can have you sim blow out the candles and age before it is even their birthday. I HATE that the stairs cannot be recolored. You can't lock out sims from different rooms. This is a feature I love from TS2. The only thing I've noticed is that if you select a sim and bring up the pie chart from another sims bed it asks if you want to sleep in that particular sims bed. No HotTub! I am disappointed! and also the pool ladder cannot be recolored as well, I had made a very natural looking pool using stone and pebble tile and wallpaper and with the bright blue steps it looks ridiculous. I have to admit I am nit picky about color matching, but then again i am also a Graphic Designer So small inconsistencies jump out at me and drive me nuts. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Driskoll Xun on 2009 May 22, 02:59:18 I find the population cap (8 times the # of private lots) to be good. The population for ghosts looks limitless, however. Do the ghosts breed on their own? Do NPC's breed at all?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Scotty on 2009 May 22, 03:01:40 And there is no diving board either. And if you remove the ladder, Sims can still get out. That was always my favorite way of getting rid of unwanted Sims. They ruined my fun!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rockermonkey on 2009 May 22, 03:12:05 in TS2 you could grow up a day before their birthday. The hottubs and pianos missing bothers me sooo much. Grrr. But the game looks good. :)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lerf on 2009 May 22, 03:16:18 This is awful. I'm a respectable coven-going middle aged lady. And I'm seriously considering downloading pirated softwar. (Of course 80% of the software I had for my C vic-20 and C65, and my Amiga was pirated, but that was different. Sorta..... You can't fool us with that veneer of respectability. We've noticed that if we say your name backwards it's actually a cuss-word from Farscape (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/farscape/swearing/clip0.shtml). It is? Oh, coooool! I just asked my husband if I could dl it--he's the one who'll have to fix any messes I make in the course of so doing and he said he prefered not to have to de-virus me if I goofed up. Now, I understand his reluctance. We spent most of Thanksgiving weekend removing something called Vundo from my machine, and he spends much too much time on weekends fixing his Dad's computer because if his Dad see's a popup saying, "Want a virus that will wipe your hard-drive? Click here." he will click on it." (FIL also doesn't believe in firewalls, or rather he believes in them until a virus tells him to turn it off.) So, I think I'll give it a miss. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 22, 03:27:13 Oh Lerf, I had that awful Vundo Trojan on my laptop this past fall. I gave up and just did a fresh install. First time I've ever had a really bad virus on a computer, I'm usually really good about it.
I have a question for those with the game ... I don't think it has been answered yet. Is there same sex marriage in the game? Is it still "joined unions"? Or is it (gulp) not in there at all? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 22, 03:33:04 Maybe this is one of those things that everyone knows but me--is it an entirely different design team or creative director (or whatever) behind sims 3 vs sims 2? A lot of details just seem oddly different from what you'd expect (the forced female maternity leave mentioned in another thread is what got me wondering, along with lots of other franchise trademarks that really ought to be there but aren't).
I know the two aren't completely analogous, but it's sounding like Sims 3 is to Sims Franchise as SimCity Societies is to SimCity Franchise? ETA: I know people are understandably reluctant, but just go to a well-known torrent site (not sure I can be specific here) and read the comments. It's really unlikely the highly-seeded ones (i.e., the ones that shows lots of downloads) will have virus or trojans without someone having caught it and commented already. Other than that you really only need two pieces of software (probably daemon tools and winrar, both of which are legit and can be gotten for free directly from their publishers). Well, and a torrent downloader. Honestly, leaving ethics out of the question, which I like to do in this situation, getting arr'd stuff is way more akin to "just be an informed consumer" than "walk alone through the bad part of town at night and hope to god you don't get mugged." The torrent sites stay up because they're making money. (Or I suppose some of them have altruistic reasons). Either way they have a vested interest in making sure the torrents associated with them don't cause your computer to explode into, well, a fiery ball visible from space. And the community, via comments and whatnot, tends to be self-correcting. I'm definitely going to hell for my arring if hell exists, and I've yet to create a fiery ball visible from space. A firewall and common sense go a long way. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 22, 03:57:47 Anyone know why there is no ceiling in my house? I put flooring above it to make a ceiling below and the roof disappears, I put the roof back and if the tiles are there it won't get on the house. Then, if I remove the flooring and put the roof back on there is no ceiling!
Also, does anyone have this problem ... hairstyles from far away have white speckles in them. When I zoom in they clear up. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 22, 04:26:36 A couple of random "why"s:
Why do children have their own cell phones? Do all females get a positive moodlet for being pregnant? That just doesn't sit right with me. For one thing, the third trimester just seems like it'd be too damn uncomfortable to make someone auto-happy. (then again, I say that as someone who doesn't have and doesn't want kids- what do I know, right?) Why so many damn rabbit holes? The jobs, I can understand, no one really wants to watch their Sim sit at a cubicle. But restaurants and stores were fully playable community lots in the previous games. Is it just laziness that made them do it this way? (Probably.) TashaYarr- yeah, instead of Will Wright they've got Rod Humble. actually, this may have been the case for a while, I'm not entirely sure. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 22, 04:30:40 Why so many damn rabbit holes? The jobs, I can understand, no one really wants to watch their Sim sit at a cubicle. But restaurants and stores were fully playable community lots in the previous games. Is it just laziness that made them do it this way? (Probably.) Looking back, TS2 base game didn't have much for community lots either, those mostly came from NL. Probably just another example of EA intentionally limiting the game so they can cash in on it later. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 22, 04:39:16 I saw a few of those promo interviews and articles. Somehow I always assumed the rabbit holes would only apply to sims' workplaces (since they're mostly boring places that we wouldn't want to go to anyway), not to the community lots (that we've always been able to go to in TS2, even with just the base-game).
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: chaos on 2009 May 22, 04:46:53 I suspect that the (over)use of rabbit holes is partially from laziness, but also to conserve resources. Community lots, especially large ones, used to cause major lag on my old computer. EA knows that they'd be shooting themselves in the foot (feet?) if their new
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 22, 04:49:47 Personally, I am pro-rabbit-hole. All the rabbit holes are things that either we never had in TS2 to begin with, or are things so utterly boring that we made hacks just to avoid having to do it. See: Grocery shopping, buying crap, etc. All these things in TS3 have been turned into rabbit holes, because, frankly, we never actually liked doing those things to begin with!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: chaos on 2009 May 22, 04:59:09 Can't argue with logic like that.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: EsotericPolarBear on 2009 May 22, 05:24:38 Personally, I am pro-rabbit-hole. All the rabbit holes are things that either we never had in TS2 to begin with, or are things so utterly boring that we made hacks just to avoid having to do it. See: Grocery shopping, buying crap, etc. All these things in TS3 have been turned into rabbit holes, because, frankly, we never actually liked doing those things to begin with! Although I do miss being able to run my own store/restaurant/whathaveyou rather than being an otherwise uninvolved "partner". Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: laylei on 2009 May 22, 05:28:28 I've been playing it for most of the day today (though I can tell it'll get old fast). There are so many things that annoy me. I miss macrotastics so much- especially macro/socialize, because nothing is more fun than jumping from household to household trying to get four teenagers at four different schoolmates' houses to make friends. I've taken to simply playing with testingcheatsenabled always on, so I can drag the mood bars up, else they spend so much time sleeping and eating and peeing that there is no time for anything else.
Is anyone else immensely annoyed by the limitations on toddlers? They can only earn 3 points in logic and music, and then what? The playtable does nothing. After getting their six points and talking/walking/pottying, you're stuck with another 2-3 days of absolutely nothing (and man, do I miss Inge's bottomless bottle and the sleeping mat/dog beds. I'd forgotten how annoying toddlers are when they're not self-sufficient). I used testingcheatsenabled to force age my triplets to childhood, because I didn't feel like dealing with 3 cakes, but then they were unable to go to school until the time when they would have aged to childhood naturally. So annoying. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lum on 2009 May 22, 05:31:39 So. Played some more for a few hours. I've warmed up to the game somewhat, since I managed to get an evil sim and a good sim in love and later married. (Wasn't that difficult, but it took me a bit to figure it out.) Lack of wedding arch is so lame, lack of wedding-dress-like clothes is saddening...
Also, I figured out that after flirting for awhile, you CAN get the other sim in the mood... both the 'kiss' and 'confess attraction' showed up after some flirting. I assumed that once there, they would stay there; but no. I repeated other romantic interactions, spammed them actually, then the other sim got bored and both 'kiss' and 'confess attraction' disappeared. In other words, I ruined the moment. I had to sit them in the couch and do other stuff so they would show up again. Everything was smooth sailing from then. Also, I don't like it the whole 'building outline loads first, then it gets filled with detail'. Once I fooled around with the settings, it became more acceptable; currently, I set it up as make everything non-detailed except the current lot and the sims, just so I could avoid the eyesore. It could be that my graphic card is made of fail, though. Meh. I also like the houses. In fact, I want to recreate them on Sims 2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 22, 05:32:20 Is anyone else immensely annoyed by the limitations on toddlers? They can only earn 3 points in logic and music, and then what? The playtable does nothing. After getting their six points and talking/walking/pottying, you're stuck with another 2-3 days of absolutely nothing (and man, do I miss Inge's bottomless bottle and the sleeping mat/dog beds. I'd forgotten how annoying toddlers are when they're not self-sufficient). I used testingcheatsenabled to force age my triplets to childhood, because I didn't feel like dealing with 3 cakes, but then they were unable to go to school until the time when they would have aged to childhood naturally. So annoying. Babies and toddlers are at that age for way too damn long. I got so bored and annoyed with them. I was able to send them to the cake early though, and then send them to school. Maybe the school thing was messed up because you used testingcheats and they borked that? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 22, 05:42:49 How'd you get them to be able to kiss? I have a pair of sims up to "Y thinks X is very alluring" and they can woohoo all they like, but unless they're cuddling in bed (or presumably on the couch) the option to kiss is nowhere to be found.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 22, 05:50:53 What's their relationship bar at? There's probably still a certain relationship progress they have to be at for certain interactions to appear.
Unless of course your couple are already at a high relationship. In that case, something weird is definitely going on, especially if woohoo is showing up but nothing else. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 22, 06:03:05 Well, okay, they're just at Friend status but I still expected a plain kiss to be available by now.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 22, 06:07:25 For those of you who like to express your opinions via Facebook, there is now a group called "The Sims 3 sucks".
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lum on 2009 May 22, 06:12:56 Quote How'd you get them to be able to kiss? I have a pair of sims up to "Y thinks X is very alluring" and they can woohoo all they like, but unless they're cuddling in bed (or presumably on the couch) the option to kiss is nowhere to be found. That's exactly what happened to me later. When the interaction showed up, they were best friends and I had the relationship panel all maxed out, since I had them talking and flirting for a few days before that. She had the kiss want for awhile; I didn't control the other sim, so I don't know if he had it too. Like I said, I was spamming the romantic interactions, then the kiss/confess attraction showed up. I didn't go for it, so continued to spam flirt and other stuff, the other sim thought I was boring, so I blew it. It didn't show up again, no matter how much I tried. That's when I decided to sit them on the couch; kiss and cuddle showed up again, along with make out. Same thing happened on the bed. However, they were able to kiss normally after kissing/makingout/whoohooing. In fact, I think they fell in love after making out in the couch, when confess attraction showed up again and I used it. Now I'm not sure... If kiss isn't showing up for you outside the bed/couch, my pet theory is that there's some sort of one-shot deal thing involved between 'true love' and 'fuckbuddy'. Maybe if they don't comply with some sort of invisible love parameters, they stick to fuckbuddydom? Maybe if you don't use kiss right away, you lose it? Dunno. Further tests are needed. EDIT: Quote Well, okay, they're just at Friend status but I still expected a plain kiss to be available by now. Maybe that's the problem. My couple was maxed out all the way to best friends when the kiss showed up. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 22, 06:36:16 Basically this whole system seems to be a pain. Sure I don't mind it so much when I'm still exploring the game and figuring stuff out and not worrying about the socialization so much. But when I want to do story type stuff and not have to go through each tier every single time I want them to do something specific, ugh it's a pain in the butt. >:(
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 22, 07:18:12 Is anyone else immensely annoyed by the limitations on toddlers? They can only earn 3 points in logic and music, and then what? The playtable does nothing. After getting their six points and talking/walking/pottying, you're stuck with another 2-3 days of absolutely nothing (and man, do I miss Inge's bottomless bottle and the sleeping mat/dog beds. I'd forgotten how annoying toddlers are when they're not self-sufficient). I used testingcheatsenabled to force age my triplets to childhood, because I didn't feel like dealing with 3 cakes, but then they were unable to go to school until the time when they would have aged to childhood naturally. So annoying. Babies and toddlers are at that age for way too damn long. I got so bored and annoyed with them. I was able to send them to the cake early though, and then send them to school. Maybe the school thing was messed up because you used testingcheats and they borked that? Color me unimpressed with the effects of filling a LTW or power wish or whatever they are called. My angler got his 13 perfect fish in fishbowls and all he gets is 40k reward points? At this point he doesn't need rewards! All he has to do is go to work, eat, and piss. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 22, 07:47:00 Is it possible to get another lifetime wish after you've already completed one, by grabbing the "change lifetime wish" reward? I'd check myself but I don't have anyone even close to finishing their lifetime wish yet.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Blaise on 2009 May 22, 07:59:50 I have played it this evening and my initial impression is that the Sims' heads, once in game, truly look doughy and demented. I had all settings maxed as I have a brand new computer with 4gb ram.
I just could not get over how the look and move. Although I did encounter a cool looking sim named "Gunther". :-) I agree with another poster who said that s/he could not connect with the Sims because of they way they look. I will be going back to TS2 and keeping this on the virtual shelf until, or if, mods and CC come out. The world itself is very pretty, but since I cannot make my own custom hood, the pretty does not hold enough appeal to make the game cost worth it. (If I were to buy it, which I am not going to.) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Tigerlilley on 2009 May 22, 08:08:28 The way they move is awful. Jerky, weird, ugh. This is definitely been another minimum effort from EA.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 22, 08:34:08 Is it possible to get another lifetime wish after you've already completed one, by grabbing the "change lifetime wish" reward? I'd check myself but I don't have anyone even close to finishing their lifetime wish yet. I've finished several lifetime wishes, I'll test this out soon with one of my Sims. Edit: Actually, that particular lifetime reward seems to be gone for both my adult Sims. Guess you can't do it :\ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: spookymuffin on 2009 May 22, 08:41:44 I finally managed to fix my game (managed to get a corrupt install two times in a row) and I've been playing for most of the last 24 hours.
I like the game. I suppose that I'll do up a list of what I like and what I don't, just because all the cool kids are doing it. I liked:
I didn't like:
All in all, I think that I'm going to enjoy playing this almost as much as I enjoyed playing TS2 when it first came out. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: lindaetterlee on 2009 May 22, 09:04:53 I never realized how much I missed the maxmotive cheat.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 22, 09:06:37 I never realized how much I missed the maxmotive cheat. You can still do it wil testingcheatsenabled true and then shift click the mailbox or drag motives bar. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: aussieone on 2009 May 22, 09:15:19 I've started up the TS3 on four separate occasions and played for a couple of hours each time.
When I've played, it has felt like I have to spend time with with people I really do *not* want to hang out with. Then I've quit the game, fired up TS2 and it has felt like "Honey, I'm home!" Maybe it's too big of a change for me; maybe the game sucks donkey's balls; but I really can't see myself warming to TS3 anytime soon. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 22, 09:18:06 Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 22, 09:25:50 The way they move is awful. Jerky, weird, ugh. This is definitely been another minimum effort from EA. It seems that there are two different "walk" animations: one of them is a power walk, which is ugly, blocky, and hideous. This is likely the one you're talking about. The other walk is a normal walk, and it looks nice and *human*. Sadly, it seems that sims will rarely do this one except for short distances (i.e. walking to a bookshelf in the same room). If we can find some way to put in a mod that eliminates that power walk, I'm all for it. I don't care that the normal walk is slower, at least it isn't an eyesore. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Dizzymental on 2009 May 22, 09:27:07 Well I'm just wondering, maybe all these bugs, like the speed problem, the graphic glitches, etc. are caused by the crack you're all using. I don't mean the stuff you buy on the street. :) The crack that comes with the torrent download is probably suspect and that's why you're all experiencing these bugs in the game.
I remember the missing build mode in the crack for Sims 2 when it first appeared on torrent. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 22, 09:31:04 Question for people who have installed:
How many gigs of free space are required to install the game? I finally got the rar downloaded and unrared it, but copying the "disc" contents in order to circumvent the spyware wrapper resulted in a "Oops, you're out of disc space!" message. I wound up moving the iso onto my external drive and deleting all TS3-related stuff from my main drive. Is 5-6 gigs enough? If not, I might have to rearrange some more stuff, or install on my external drive. Why the heck do games have to be so huge anyway? I have an incredibe game installed on this computer that takes up a wopping 700 MB of disc space. It is partially my fault for partitioning my disc two or three ways, but I need my linux, and 70 GB should have been enough, dammit. ETA: So, I'm 700 MB short. Fuck it, I'll just put it on my external drive. It doesn't sound like I'll be keeping it long anyway. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 22, 10:10:02 Main folder takes 5.59 GB. And save games and crap folder that's in My documents takes about 700-900 Mb. I also suspect that there are hidden folders with temp cache like in Spore, and god knows how much space they might take.
Edit: It seems as cache file is in saves folder for everyone to see. At least I didn't find anything hidden away. ETA: I am confused. I tried to move my family to another home. I used a computer, checked “pack furniture” option, and then I had to choose a house to move in, but I can’t buy it unfurnished. I also tried to evict them and then to move in (through “edit town”), but I can’t pack furniture :( Also I can’t figure out how available funds are calculated: A: House unfurnished: 12782; number from buy mode B: House furnished: 17402; number from buy mode C: Free cash: 7649 D: House value: 16759; number from moving out menu Available funds to buy a new home with furniture packed: 17349 (A+C = 20431. 3000$ difference!!) Available funds to buy a new home: 24408 (B+C= 25051; D+C= 24408) Numbers just don’t add up ??? Maybe I don’t get paid for bushes and trees? Maybe the numbers from buy mode are without depreciation? I have no idea. Still it seems impossible to move out with packed furniture and to move into an empty house, unless you pack furniture manually OR empty the destined house manually. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 22, 13:03:21 Quote from: Bluesoup Cool, my sim started a fire on the stove and it burnt the counter next to it too! Way more realistic. Lucky! I haven't even SEEN a fire yet. Has anyone gotten triplets yet? ;) Quote pianos missing Yeah, why aren't there any instruments that kids can play? This is not acceptable!Quote from: Zaza Why does my current family have to have a sim with the want for five of them? Five? mine wants 10! And he's not even a Fambly sim!Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Gelina on 2009 May 22, 13:03:33 I think I found a bug. I was playing one household that had 3 children in it, then I switched to playing a different household. When I switched back to the first household, it was time for all 3 of the children to grow up (1 to adult, 2 to teens). Apparently when you don't babysit your family, the children's grades tank which means that you don't get to pick their traits on their birthday. So I aged up all three children and their new trait was randomly picked. All three of them ended up with the "artistic" trait, which is alphabetically the first trait.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 13:05:52 I only played for a few minutes last night, before my daughter took it over, she played for a while. (will find out how she liked it when she wakes up).
I did notice a few differences though. When I played I just wanted to check it out so I just grabbed the Martinez family from the bin and plopped them in a house. I played the female, I think her name was Jennifer, and when I clicked on her it gave options to go to the park, public pool, etc. When my daughter started she created a female in CAS, moved her in, and the only option she got when clicking on the sim was to change clothes. She came from CAS with 2 books in her inventory and all she wanted to do was read. I thought this was strange, for hers not to have the same options. I wonder if the other hood will be easier to play, without all the forced control over the game. They have time to sneak some fixes into that download...I hope. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: abaris on 2009 May 22, 13:24:48 Well I'm just wondering, maybe all these bugs, like the speed problem, the graphic glitches, etc. are caused by the crack you're all using. I don't mean the stuff you buy on the street. :) The crack that comes with the torrent download is probably suspect and that's why you're all experiencing these bugs in the game. That's a little bit far fetched. A crack changing animations would be a wondrous being. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 22, 13:25:46 I tried to figure out, how available funds are calculated and here’s what I found out:
Variables: A = House unfurnished – see in buy mode. This is NOT a price of a bare house. It includes kitchen and bathroom furniture, similar to AL, includes also trees, bushes, flowers, driveway, ceiling, wall and outdoor lights. B = House furnished - see in buy mode, includes everything. C = Free cash. D = House value - from moving out menu. There is a slight difference from B sometimes, but I can’t figure out why. E = House value unfurnished - can’t see from moving out menu, but it is the price of a bare house, with NO furniture, includes trees, bushes and flowers. Calculation: Available funds to buy a new home with furniture packed and selling only a house: E+C Available funds to buy a new home with selling furnished: D+C So if you want to change a house, you should not base your decision on buy/build mode number, but instead try to move out with the computer and check numbers there. And when choosing a house keep in mind that unfirnished house still includes appliances and lights. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: carliegirl on 2009 May 22, 13:30:58 Thank you everyone for giving such good details. I have a question, though, that one of you might be able to help me with. Did anyone get a box saying that you have to connect to the internet while on the loading screen? And if so, how did you get past this? I would greatly appreciate the help.
Thank You. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 22, 13:49:28 I only played for a few minutes last night, before my daughter took it over, she played for a while. (will find out how she liked it when she wakes up). I did notice a few differences though. When I played I just wanted to check it out so I just grabbed the Martinez family from the bin and plopped them in a house. I played the female, I think her name was Jennifer, and when I clicked on her it gave options to go to the park, public pool, etc. When my daughter started she created a female in CAS, moved her in, and the only option she got when clicking on the sim was to change clothes. She came from CAS with 2 books in her inventory and all she wanted to do was read. I thought this was strange, for hers not to have the same options. It's trait-dependent. I have a bookworm, and he automatically has the choice to go to the library or the book store. I also have an artist, and she has the automatic choice of going to the art museum. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lorelei on 2009 May 22, 13:49:56 Did anyone get a box saying that you have to connect to the internet while on the loading screen? And if so, how did you get past this? Yes. When using the installer-spawned game exe, it wants to phone home. Denying it access to the Net makes it have a tanty and stop loading the game. This happens even when you say DNW to the EA Download Manager during install. Selecting either normal or custom install makes no appreciable difference. When using TSE.exe from the crack folder, it doesn't phone home, but neither will it stay in the Processes list in taskmgr; IOW, it fails to load. Tried this both before and after uninstall/reinstall of installer-spawned exe. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 13:51:53 I only played for a few minutes last night, before my daughter took it over, she played for a while. (will find out how she liked it when she wakes up). I did notice a few differences though. When I played I just wanted to check it out so I just grabbed the Martinez family from the bin and plopped them in a house. I played the female, I think her name was Jennifer, and when I clicked on her it gave options to go to the park, public pool, etc. When my daughter started she created a female in CAS, moved her in, and the only option she got when clicking on the sim was to change clothes. She came from CAS with 2 books in her inventory and all she wanted to do was read. I thought this was strange, for hers not to have the same options. It's trait-dependent. I have a bookworm, and he automatically has the choice to go to the library or the book store. I also have an artist, and she has the automatic choice of going to the art museum. I didn't even think of that. She did have the trait loves the outdoors. I wonder what traits my daughters sim had, to have no options Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 22, 13:54:13 Saw another example of shoddy/lazy animation last night. My sim invited her best friend over, and best friend shows up carrying a toddler -- I'm not sure if it was her child or her grandchild, as she is an elder and I don't know when she transitioned. Anyway, when it came time to go and my sim asked everyone to leave, instead of picking up the toddler and carrying him out, the friend walked outside to leave as usual, and the toddler just *blink* disappeared.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BattyCoda on 2009 May 22, 14:34:41 Not sure if anyone here cares, but Microcenter has a special this weekend on the game. Pay $5 USian down and get the game for $19.99 instead of $49.99 when it comes out on the 2nd.
Could this be a response to the leak? I kind of doubt is as ads and offers are usually done way in advance, but who knows? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 14:49:02 I am noticing a problem with an owned car. The family I am playing own a multi-share car and the parents each own a bike. When it's time to go to work, the carpool still comes and the adults will not use their owned transportation, they go to the carpool. The only time they will use the owned transportation is when the carpool has left or I have to click on the car to go to work. Then they come home in the carpool, with their car magically appearing in the driveway. ???
Why would they make the babysitter called everyday instead of being on a schedule? I forgot to call and the parents went to work anyway. Had to call the father back home to call a babysitter and then go back to work. Hope that this will be fixed before release, or all my munchkins will be in child services care. Last, my male sim is a neat-freak and being in law enforcement, he has to rummage in neighbor garbages to get intel. He didn't like it, and got a negative moodlet that was suppose to go away in 10 mins. It had been 4 days with the same time, so I guess that's another bug. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Caz on 2009 May 22, 14:54:40 Here is another problem I have discovered while playing:
Sims can CLONE themselves. I've gone into houses with mysterious babies and looked inside their family trees to see that they only have one parent, the Sim living in the house. There was even this household where a guy had four sons with no mothers, and they all looked just like him. Then Claire Ursine's daughter had a baby all by herself despite the fact she's actually in love with a Sim (She was even in love with ANOTHER Sim, which she did all by herself even after I'd gone to the trouble of making her fall in love. What the hell did she have to do that for?) Yep, the baby looked just like the mother when I aged her up. This is ridiculous. Sims shouldn't be cloning themselves to make babies. I don't want the neighborhood filled with Sims who all look the same. I love the fact that all I have to do is turn testingcheatsenabled on, drag a Sim's hunger bar all the way down and they fall over dead immediately. Been doing that a lot lately. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sigmund on 2009 May 22, 15:02:07 I've gone into houses with mysterious babies and looked inside their family trees to see that they only have one parent, the Sim living in the house. There was even this household where a guy had four sons with no mothers, and they all looked just like him. Then Claire Ursine's daughter had a baby all by herself despite the fact she's actually in love with a Sim (She was even in love with ANOTHER Sim, which she did all by herself even after I'd gone to the trouble of making her fall in love. Claire Ursine is strange. I read in another thread here that she starts out pregnant with a baby, but I think the father must be one of the Frio brothers, since he is her ex at the start of the game. (This came as a pretty big surprise on my end since my main sim got engaged to him, but that's another story.) However, when I returned to Claire's house, I too realized that she'd had ANOTHER baby at some point, with no father listed in the tree, in addition to the one fathered by this Frio character. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Dizzymental on 2009 May 22, 15:03:03 Well I'm just wondering, maybe all these bugs, like the speed problem, the graphic glitches, etc. are caused by the crack you're all using. I don't mean the stuff you buy on the street. :) The crack that comes with the torrent download is probably suspect and that's why you're all experiencing these bugs in the game. That's a little bit far fetched. A crack changing animations would be a wondrous being. You're wrong. The crack is twice the size of the original TS3 file. Take a look. With the Sims 2, the original crack was bad and affected gameplay. I remember it clearly. Same thing, perhaps. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: charlsye on 2009 May 22, 15:04:28 My sim just had triplets. Both she and the father had the fertility perk. I don't know if you'll be able to get triplets without it but that's how I did it.
Also, I noticed that if you go to the hospital, it randomizes one trait and you choose the other. If you choose to stay home, it'll randomize both. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 22, 15:09:10 I could choose both traits after going to hospital, thanks to sim's happy pregnancy.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vcpink on 2009 May 22, 15:12:02 I think from all the troubles the game has with the whole, evolving town and whatnot we can deduce that EA couldn't figure out how to fix it so they made it hard to play more that one household at a time.
It's not because EA are a dick, which they are, but because EA are failures at programming AI. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: noblesse_oblige on 2009 May 22, 15:16:59 What is up with the "accuse of cheating" option? Last night, I was playing with a sim on a community lot, and I zoomed away for a minute and, when I came back, she had a "betrayed!" moodlet about how much it sucked to be cheated on. Since her husband was at work, and didn't have any romantic interests besides her, I thought it was kind of weird. That's when I noticed her pre-marriage romantic interest, who she still had a heart with (despite having asked him about 8,000 times to just be friends) sitting a few feet away on the park bench reading a newspaper. I thought, maybe it was him flirting with someone else...?
So, I took my sim home and, when she was conversing with her husband, I noticed the "accuse of cheating" option pop up. I was confused because he doesn't even like his co-workers, but I had her accuse him of cheating just for the lulz. Fighting and divorce ensued. Just to make sure, though, I had her visit the pre-marriage romantic interest, and what popped up in the conversation tree but "accuse of cheating!" WTF. When one sim "cheats" on you, you can accuse all of your love objects of being cheaters? How will I ever know who the culprit is?! And how stupid is it to have a married sim be pissed that your discarded love interest from eons ago is flirting with someone else (if that was the case)? Or how weird is it that your sim's spouse can cheat on you...at work? Did they both cheat on her, I guess? God, I miss memories. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 22, 15:20:52 Eh, does it matter? Shiftclick, pick your own.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: misscatfish on 2009 May 22, 15:53:49 It may be impossible to say at this point, but could it be that these neighborhood story problems are all somehow scripted and might be absent in user-created 'hoods (when/if the neighborhood creation tool is released as promised)?
If such a tool allowed one to create empty 'hoods and set parameters for story progression, demographics, etc., then one might have more control over how/if the neighborhood evolved. Too much to hope for? :-\ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 22, 16:06:49 how weird is it that your sim's spouse can cheat on you...at work? Because nobody EVER has an affair with their secretary. ;)Yeah, I'd like an empty hood, myself. Though, I really suck at decoration. So, maybe i'd rather have a fan made hood. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 22, 16:13:00 What is up with the "accuse of cheating" option? Last night, I was playing with a sim on a community lot, and I zoomed away for a minute and, when I came back, she had a "betrayed!" moodlet about how much it sucked to be cheated on. Since her husband was at work, and didn't have any romantic interests besides her, I thought it was kind of weird. That's when I noticed her pre-marriage romantic interest, who she still had a heart with (despite having asked him about 8,000 times to just be friends) sitting a few feet away on the park bench reading a newspaper. I thought, maybe it was him flirting with someone else...? I will look into the matter. It is a known fact that EAxis has some really STUPID ideas in their jealousy and romance system, and I will have to invest effort into re-making Romance Mod Mode.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 22, 16:13:25 Quote Last, my male sim is a neat-freak and being in law enforcement, he has to rummage in neighbor garbages to get intel. He didn't like it, and got a negative moodlet that was suppose to go away in 10 mins. It had been 4 days with the same time, so I guess that's another bug. That happened to my sim as well. Took me most of a sim day to discover that my sim had collected "evidence" from the trashcans, in the form of trash, and had stuffed it in his inventory. Thus he was always near the trash so the counter on the moodlet got reset every minute. The sollution is simple. Clean out te trash in the inventory and wait 10 minutes. Voila! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 22, 16:17:13 Is there any thread for discussing TS3 modding? I dont know if anyone is working in a nocensor patch. But if the old way (with a package) doesnt work, maybe it could be done messing with the dx calls.
There is this supersecret "Armoire of Invincibility" subforum (that freak language you use is hard to understand for noobs and foreign people, and i am both), but of course i cant read it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VacantBlue on 2009 May 22, 16:19:53 The Associated Press has a comment from EA:
"EA said the pirated version "is a buggy, pre-final" version of the game. "It's not the full game. Half of the world — an entire second city — is missing," said spokeswoman Holly Rockwood in a statement. Electronic Arts has announced it is publishing "The Sims 3" without restrictive anti-piracy software known as DRM, a form of copy protection that requires online authentication." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i2Ts-zyPtq_1NOZV49oeN7ZvY4RgD98BBEMG0 I thought that the second city was going to be a download and not included in the game? Edited to add: EA and their stupid misleading statements. (Link was posted on the BBS) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 22, 16:24:56 Quote Last, my male sim is a neat-freak and being in law enforcement, he has to rummage in neighbor garbages to get intel. He didn't like it, and got a negative moodlet that was suppose to go away in 10 mins. It had been 4 days with the same time, so I guess that's another bug. That happened to my sim as well. Took me most of a sim day to discover that my sim had collected "evidence" from the trashcans, in the form of trash, and had stuffed it in his inventory. Thus he was always near the trash so the counter on the moodlet got reset every minute. The sollution is simple. Clean out te trash in the inventory and wait 10 minutes. Voila! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Trickster on 2009 May 22, 16:29:23 The Associated Press has a comment from EA: "EA said the pirated version "is a buggy, pre-final" version of the game. No way to know for certain until it really does come out, but I think they're fiendish liars. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 16:32:42 Quote Last, my male sim is a neat-freak and being in law enforcement, he has to rummage in neighbor garbages to get intel. He didn't like it, and got a negative moodlet that was suppose to go away in 10 mins. It had been 4 days with the same time, so I guess that's another bug. That happened to my sim as well. Took me most of a sim day to discover that my sim had collected "evidence" from the trashcans, in the form of trash, and had stuffed it in his inventory. Thus he was always near the trash so the counter on the moodlet got reset every minute. The sollution is simple. Clean out te trash in the inventory and wait 10 minutes. Voila! Okay, will check that out when I play again. Kinda sick of it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 22, 16:32:55 Why would they make the babysitter called everyday instead of being on a schedule? I forgot to call and the parents went to work anyway. Had to call the father back home to call a babysitter and then go back to work. Hope that this will be fixed before release, or all my munchkins will be in child services care. You only need the babysitter if babies/toddlers are in the house, and with enforced female maternity leave, will probably only have two days in which a babysitter is needed. Getting a maid and babysitter is not recommended, as the babysitter on his/her own is pretty good, but maids are the new nannies. Some are good. Some will spend all their time brushing their teeth, eating your food, and chit-chatting with the babysitter so that s/he can't care for the kids. Firing a particular maid does not work, as they will come back after a couple of days. As for it being a buggy non-final version, here's hoping. However, I'm also not discounting it as a CYA measure. We'll see on real release day. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: noblesse_oblige on 2009 May 22, 16:34:34 Because nobody EVER has an affair with their secretary. ;) The funny thing is, he's an athlete and all of his co-workers, including his boss, are men. ???I will look into the matter. ... I will have to invest effort into re-making Romance Mod Mode. A romance mod, if possible, for TS3 would be awesome. So far as I can tell, a lot of the romantic and jealousy actions are either borked or just plain fail.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nanacake on 2009 May 22, 16:35:36 The Associated Press has a comment from EA: "EA said the pirated version "is a buggy, pre-final" version of the game. No way to know for certain until it really does come out, but I think they're fiendish liars. Buggy and FINAL in the same sentence! Gah! You know what this comes down to, EA doesn't want to hire the right people to do this, doesn't have the right people to stick it in full gear to get it done, and now 4 months pushed back we still are ending up with something that is shit, those words are so twisted and tell me that they KNOW this is messed up, they're just hoping a lot of 12s will buy this game and not notice it until they release 12 some patch fixes and a new ep in less than a month? Ugh Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kennyinbmore on 2009 May 22, 16:37:56 well it does say pre final
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nanacake on 2009 May 22, 16:47:46 That's the point, he didn't want to say pre-beta.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 16:51:18 Thought I would post a couple of pics
My CAS sim Kirsten..sent her to the public pool, since there is no diving board they hold their nose and jump in (http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu219/k40/Screenshot-2.jpg) In the pool if you click on another sim there is the option for hold breath contest (http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu219/k40/Screenshot.jpg) Sent her to the beach, where she proceeded to make and eat hot dogs. I thought the sunset was kind of nice. (http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu219/k40/Screenshot-3.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lerf on 2009 May 22, 17:08:50 That's the point, he didn't want to say pre-beta. Has all the earmarks of someone in PR having been told, "Cover our Arse!" and kermitflailing to follow orders. Someone who has absolutely no idea what a beta-release is or is afraid that the 12s who want the game won't understand the one-syllable word. The fact that this idiot firmly stated that the second neighborhood, which EA has repeatedly said will be released separately, will be included in the final "real release". Unless she/he/it means that the neighborhood is dormant on the final DVD/CD and only needs to be activated, of course. (Somebody might check through what they've got to see if that's the case....) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 22, 17:13:35 Well, I finally got to play for a few hours this morning, and it's better than I thought it would be. I'm getting used to the way the sims look and the way the UI works, and unlike TS2, it looks like it will actually be somewhat difficult - at any rate it's clear that it's probably no longer possible to have sims that are good at absolutely everything. Some specifics:
- There are female PJs that do not look like underwear. Yay! - It looks like you can make three different sizes of easel painting, and novels accrue royalties over time like they do in real life, instead of just one big lump sum as soon as you finish writing it. - I kind of like how things that were purely cosmetic in TS2 now actually have some effect on gameplay; cheap showers are sometimes cold, and cheap stoves make badly cooked food that gives a negative moodlet. I have filthy rich sims in TS2 who still have the cheapest of everything because I just never had a real reason to change it out for something "better". Also, fly-covered dishes give a negative moodlet, unmade beds and dirty dishes generate wishes to clean them up; there is now a reason to do cleaning other than environment score, lack of places to eat, and making the annoying buzzy-fly sound stop. - My neurotic sim has an option to "talk about conspiracies" with total strangers. Unfortunately, this seems to give people the idea that she is "sociable" rather than "batshit crazy". - Opportunities are not just job-oriented - on the second or third day of play, my artistic sim who had just taken a writing class got an opportunity to make $500 a week in royalties, with the reward being an increase in royalties. I haven't really explored careers much - my sim quit hers when I realized that there was no way she was going to be able to succeed there and write novels at the same time, and that she could actually make money solving logic puzzles (or something) on the internet. I did notice that it doesn't have to be boring for me, though - depending on which way you pick to spend the day, different motives increase or decrease, which give moodlets, which affect work performance - it was actually a bit of a challenge to keep my sim's mood up without having her spend too much time slacking off. I'm interested in trying it out with a more job-oriented sim. Oddly, the "seamless neighborhood" hasn't really changed the way I play yet - I still go out to map view only to instruct my sim to go to a community lot (like going to neighborhood view in TS2) and haven't had her go anywhere by walking in the up-close-and-personal map. Maybe this will change. I do like controlling the whole neighborhood though, so this definitely isn't a replacement for TS2. Like Pes said, it is much more of a game, and when I beat it, it will go sit on my shelf gathering dust (as it were, since I will not be buying a physical copy of this one). Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 22, 17:13:57 Is there any thread for discussing TS3 modding? I dont know if anyone is working in a nocensor patch. But if the old way (with a package) doesnt work, maybe it could be done messing with the dx calls. There is this supersecret "Armoire of Invincibility" subforum (that freak language you use is hard to understand for noobs and foreign people, and i am both), but of course i cant read it. Just another question: anyone know how previously nocensor worked? Did it add a new 'censor mesh' invisible? Then that mesh is in the game files, and not created in the fly... btw, if anyone hasnt seen a naked body... (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7199/62833792.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62833792.jpg) Of course not a working patch, just working in things... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 22, 17:23:01 - I kind of like how things that were purely cosmetic in TS2 now actually have some effect on gameplay; cheap showers are sometimes cold, and cheap stoves make badly cooked food that gives a negative moodlet. I have filthy rich sims in TS2 who still have the cheapest of everything because I just never had a real reason to change it out for something "better". Also, fly-covered dishes give a negative moodlet, unmade beds and dirty dishes generate wishes to clean them up; there is now a reason to do cleaning other than environment score, lack of places to eat, and making the annoying buzzy-fly sound stop. I also think moodlets are a great addition, and are not grabbing much attention. in TS2, looking in the mirror was a time waster, but now you get a moodlet. But sometimes i think they seem to cover a lack in animations. so if you brush your teeth, you get a moodlet of fresh breathe, but it could also be an animation. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mootilda on 2009 May 22, 17:27:55 You're wrong. The crack is twice the size of the original TS3 file. Take a look. With the Sims 2, the original crack was bad and affected gameplay. I remember it clearly. Same thing, perhaps. The size of the EXE may just be a function of compression. It doesn't mean that someone has changed the game code. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 22, 17:32:34 - There are female PJs that do not look like underwear. Yay! Some of them *ARE* supposed to be underwear, because the PJ/Underwear category was conflated into a single entity in TS3, probably because there is no other actual USE for them.Oddly, the "seamless neighborhood" hasn't really changed the way I play yet - I still go out to map view only to instruct my sim to go to a community lot (like going to neighborhood view in TS2) and haven't had her go anywhere by walking in the up-close-and-personal map. Maybe this will change. The "Seamless Neighborhood" only will come when I introduce BABY-EATING, so you can go forth and EAT THOSE FILTHY BABIES THAT SIMS KEEP SPAWNING IN DEFIANCE OF STORY MODE OFF!I do like controlling the whole neighborhood though, so this definitely isn't a replacement for TS2. Like Pes said, it is much more of a game, and when I beat it, it will go sit on my shelf gathering dust (as it were, since I will not be buying a physical copy of this one). Well, I'm working hard on enhancing the toyness. But there can be only one.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: gyrobot on 2009 May 22, 17:35:24 On the rabbit holing though, some people don't like it since they have to shell out more cash for the game when it could be delayed to allow interactions in the places. One user wanted the game to be delayed indefinitely so he can watch his sims inside the classes.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 22, 17:38:06 - There are female PJs that do not look like underwear. Yay! Some of them *ARE* supposed to be underwear, because the PJ/Underwear category was conflated into a single entity in TS3, probably because there is no other actual USE for them.Yes, but they were not so conflated in TS2, so there is absolutely no excuse for the lack of suitable sleepwear in that case. If you really want your sims to sleep in underwear, you can actually tell them to sleep in underwear. When I choose PJs in TS2, I want them to actually look like PJs. Apparently this is too much to ask from EA. I forgot to mention one thing, actually: while my sim was writing her novel in the library, there was a traffic jam in the bathroom and some townie peed itself. Some things never change, I guess. I miss BUY already. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Dizzymental on 2009 May 22, 17:38:32 You're wrong. The crack is twice the size of the original TS3 file. Take a look. With the Sims 2, the original crack was bad and affected gameplay. I remember it clearly. Same thing, perhaps. The size of the EXE may just be a function of compression. It doesn't mean that someone has changed the game code. But it could mean that. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 17:48:44 Wow, getting rid of the censor would be great. I hate the boxy, floaty thing.
I am lightening up on the game, cause I am enjoying the moodlets, the good and bad. I like when they play chess and do not win the game, or don't get it, they get upset and push the pieces off the table. I like how the room's a mess just screws up their faces in the UI thumbnails. I like their wants of cleaning and will do it on their own if they are neat. I have noticed the little things. I still want my CC, but I am getting use to the sims looks. I like the rabbit holes cause I don't have to interact with the NPC's inside, there's enough interaction all through the town. The jobs requirements are fun, finally having to do some realistic things other than reading for skills and have friends. Friendships mean something too and can be beneficial. Still not buying it. I am protesting the closed sources and encyption. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 22, 17:53:04 Because nobody EVER has an affair with their secretary. ;) The funny thing is, he's an athlete and all of his co-workers, including his boss, are men. ???I see lack of mosaic! HOW YOU DID THAT?! I haven't seen anyone pee their self (them self? God, I'm tired) yet. I've been thinking of removing the terlet from the house I'm playing and see what happens. No underwear. V should be happy. ;) But what will KellyQ do for fashion, now? ;) Pescado, you are the only one for me. I pledge my game to thee, our lord and savior. ;) I will do anything for macro/clean. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 18:04:11 Clicking on the floor will bring up a "clean house" queue. Kinda like macro clean.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 22, 18:06:01 I think that's only for sims with the Neat trait. At least, my sim never has it.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mr. Snooley on 2009 May 22, 18:06:34 This Story Progression Bug makes this whole game freakin' unplayable when you want to play with more than 1 Household.
For christ sake, I spent several Hours creating a nice Family inclusive Mansion, played abit around with them then changed to a different Household. Oh wow, that Household also got infested by a stupid Toddler Adoption - "Fuck this, I'm going back to the other Family I just spent so much Hours on" - was what I thought. Oh wait, to late, those Queers allready left town and will never ever come back ... And I only changed the Household, what, 10 Seconds ago? aaaargh! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kattenijin on 2009 May 22, 18:08:29 I find it interesting to note that they call it a pre-final release due to the fact it dosen't contain Riverview. I'd assume that most people would download Riverview when they register; actually to me it looks like it is automatically downloaded at registry. It would be interesting to note if the download contained ONLY Riverview , or if it somehow also downloads the first "patch". Thus, the "final release" being the one you have after registration/patching is completed.
As for the no-censor pic, one method is to pause the game, and use moveobjects to move the sim from under the pixelation. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Sammy on 2009 May 22, 18:10:02 Found some sims protesting outside of City Hall. Looks like they're tired of buggy games as well. :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/LadyDea/Screenshot-23.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Seolaeria on 2009 May 22, 18:14:09 Well, after reading all the summaries I thought I'd stop lurking and add my own opinions to help others figure out if they want to try TS3 or not. I've been playing for about three days now.
First, the things I like: - Open neighborhood. Quite obvious. It is nice not to hit a loading screen during gameplay. Exploring the nooks and crannies of the paths less traveled is also nice. - Visiting neighbors. Again, you just walk/drive over to them and ring the doorbell. You can even spend the night, mooch them off of food and money. Lots of interesting lifestyle options right there. The only gripe I have is that it sometimes takes the inhabitants of the home a full sim-hour before they actually get to the front door and let you in. It would have been nice to just get a message in the upper right corner saying, "Nice to see you, come in!" and then have the house unlocked for your Sim. Would make a nice mod. - Visuals (except for the appearance of the Sims themselves) are also much better. The day/night cycle is beautiful, and I especially love the vegetation in the game. Finally, trees are more than just 2 stories tall - they sometimes dwarf the house they are standing next to and throw it into deep shadow. The only way this could be better is with a seasons implementation. Here's an example - this is the view my Sim's neighbors have of their house: (http://i44.tinypic.com/11ad3ja.jpg) - Built-in 360-degree rotation and free placement of objects with the ALT key. This one was way overdue in TS2 already. Haven't used it too much yet, but here's an image of my Sim family's living room: (http://i39.tinypic.com/2r43jpy.jpg) - Stairs can now have different railings, e.g. concrete stairs can have wood railing. Only drawback is that neither can be recolored. - Triangle floor tile tool. Also long overdue. - Interacting with objects in the inventory. Overdue as well. It's especially nice if your Sim grows his/her own produce. You can stock up the refrigerator as usual. Then, when your Sim is on the other side of town, all you have to do is swing the camera home, grab an apple out of the fridge and drag it into your Sim's inventory - and they have something to eat. Also on a side note, Sims seem to have no trouble eating a whole lime without pulling off a sour face. - I also found it nice that visiting Sims park their cars in your driveway or on community parking lots if there's free space. Now we don't have to fill those spaces with decorative cars anymore. - EDIT: My Sim just had an item in his queue called "Stop Peeping Sim." The mailman was actually peeping through the kitchen window, but left before he could get yelled at. Now for some of the things I didn't like, starting with the user interface: - The Angel Choir. It was fine at first, but now I can't stand it anymore. Every time a wish gets fulfilled you have to sit through five seconds of an incredibly loud angel choir. It should have just been a short sound effect like the "fulfilled want" from TS2. And the trouble is, you can't really turn it off, I think - which brings me to my next point: - User Interface and Game sound effects are linked in the options menu. If you turn down the "Sound Effects" slider in the options menu, it turns down both in-game sound effects and the user interface sound effects. What is up with that? - Some parts of the user interface are also done poorly. Build mode is still something I have to get used to. Some tools, like the floor and wall tools, are easy to get to because they have a large area of representation on the "picture button." But with some other tools you have to make sure your mouse pointer is clicking in the right area, otherwise you may get a different tool and have to backtrack. Why is there no traditional display for Build mode like there is for Buy mode? Also, too many effects when I'm buying/building stuff. I don't need the walls to appear out of a shower of sparkles. Just plop down the walls and get on. - Build/Buy Undo function is a bit borked. When you click the undo button, it first deselects the item you have in your hand. Then you have to hit the undo button AGAIN to actually undo what you wanted to undo. Trouble is, most of the time I undo something because I misplaced an object, so having the game force me to "let go" of it first is really annoying. I hate having to undo things now. - Also, can't CTRL-click on windows or doors to get rid of them anymore. I never realized how much I missed this until it was taken away from me. What were they thinking? - The CAST is good for the most part, though it takes some time to load all the textures every time you select a new category. Also, it slides in from the right side of the window, which takes up time. It's a nice effect, but when I just want to quickly change a style for an object, I don't want to have to wait for the CAST to slide into view and then bounce back and forth a bit before coming to a rest. Just appear and let me do what I want to do. And some gameplay-related things I didn't like: - Neighborhood. Yes, I also said it was a good thing, but the fact that you can't customize the neighborhood sucks. I always enjoyed developing a city over time, and not being able to add lots is quite disappointing, especially since there are a number of locations where the developer team could have easily placed some more around the downtown area. I really hope a neighborhood tool will be released. - Whiny Sims. I forgot how whiny they are. But it's just ridiculous. If you have a tired Sim and you queue him up to brush his teeth and then go to bed, he'll still complain about being tired even though "Go To Bed" is in his queue! If they'd at least just shut up and stop flailing their arms and just do what they're told to. They may be able to take a bit better care of themselves now, but they still have a long way to go before behaving normally. - Speaking of behaving normally, pathfinding is awful at times. When two Sims "bump" into each other, oftentimes BOTH will stop dead and just stand around for about 10-15 sim minutes, tapping their feet and staring at their surroundings. This really needs a mod, too. - The carpool still arrives even if you've bought a car for your Sim and assigned it to him/her. That in and of itself is only a small annoyance. But your Sim will actually ignore the owned car and still go to work via the carpool. What's the purpose of having a car? Well, besides the "New Car Smell" moodlet? And the fact that I'd want to buy a Yomoshoto Evasion if it existed in real life? - A grotesquely small amount of default objects. They were already reusing objects from TS2, why not add more? Oh, right... they can charge more money for them now. All in all, I'd say the game has potential. But a fat lot of good that does us. If the all-mighty J.M. Pescado can crack the obstacles put in his way by the new game, I think we'll be fine. With a lot of custom content, some desperately needed mods, a neighborhood editor, better skin textures (if that's possible) and, of course, two dozen expansion and stuff packs to put features in the game that it should have had from the beginning, it will make it. I guess it's too much to expect a great game. :-\ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 22, 18:15:06 Also, I noticed that if you go to the hospital, it randomizes one trait and you choose the other. If you choose to stay home, it'll randomize both. This is incorrect. My Sim had her baby at the hospital and I got to pick both traits. It has to do with how happy you kept the mom during the pregnancy. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 22, 18:17:23 Found some sims protesting outside of City Hall. Looks like they're tired of buggy games as well. :P The guy on the far right is named CyCl0n3 Sw0rd. I am not amused by the dumb MMORPG player name. He has been culled. Beaten, then culled.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nekonoai on 2009 May 22, 18:28:54 Clicking on the floor will bring up a "clean house" queue. Kinda like macro clean. You better not be shittin' me! I'm gonna try this when I get home. :oI think at least one of the sims in the house has a 'neat' trait, and if not, I'm sure there's a way to make it so! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 22, 18:35:28 Found some sims protesting outside of City Hall. Looks like they're tired of buggy games as well. :P The guy on the far right is named CyCl0n3 Sw0rd. I am not amused by the dumb MMORPG player name. He has been culled. Beaten, then culled.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Papercut on 2009 May 22, 18:37:20 at any rate it's clear that it's probably no longer possible to have sims that are good at absolutely everything. Yes, this is one of the positives that really struck me - skilling and expertise seems far less generic and more sim-specific than in TS2. I really like the trait system too, more for its open-endedness than its effect on gameplay (I've not played long enough to really suss out the full effects). I imagine it would be quite easy for EAxis to add new traits in each EP, much more preferable than the aspiration and personality points regime. I'm still not sure on the moodlets though. Already I'm finding the basic ones annoyingly repetitive ... Squeaky clean! Hurrah! ... I mean, having a nice shower sometimes puts me into a good mood, but not every bloody day. The rabbit holes are less crap than I expected, but I hope they make an OFBish EP eventually and open up some more community lots. I want my seedy bars and overpriced knick-knack shops, dammit! Playing around in CAS, I was able to make some passable sims (as someone mentioned before, sliding head width to max left seems to help). I don't dislike the way the sims look, but there does seem to be problems with the way features are blended on born-in-game sims. Also the skins are atrocious. They're like something out of Second Life (shudder). I'm not enjoying the collectibles much. Just knowing there is stuff lurking out there that I should be collecting annoys me. But I knew it would, so no surprises there. Ooh, and I fuckin' hate the opportunities. Goal-orientated gameplay has a short shelf life for me, and so far TS3 feels very goal-ish to me. Overall I think there's good potential, but it all rests on having an unborked story progression toggle. Without that, it's just a demo. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 22, 18:41:22 The flaw in Goal-oriented gameplay is apparent in how BV turned out. THe FIRST time you play, it's a novelty to collect all the milestones. When it starts to turn into a speedrun, and then becomes so tedious you just quit...
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jriggs on 2009 May 22, 18:46:04 Same with University. Who has the patience to do that with each sim?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 22, 18:50:57 Has anyone bought the Ambrosa recipe and successfully made it yet? I'm interested to know what's so special about a $12,000 dish.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Soggy Fox on 2009 May 22, 18:59:27 I used to cheat with uni and make maxmotives, and master everything before going home - could usually start normal play with a little extra money. If I did do a second generation sim, they usually had every skill maxed by the time they were ready for uni anyway.
And the triangular floor tile is in Sims 2 - not sure which expansion though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Beehoosis on 2009 May 22, 19:06:30 I am curious about the traits Evil, Mean, and Grumpy. Did they all make it into the game? If so, are they actually different from one another, or is EAxis just using them to pad out the list of traits?
I guess while I'm at it, I'll also ask if there are any other sets of traits that are all basically the same. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 22, 19:10:23 Uni really depends on the sim - the ones who keep wanting to flirt with random people and join Greek houses and things are generally a lot more interesting than the ones that just continually roll wants to write term papers and skill. I generally let them on free will most of the time, actually, unless they've rolled a big want that I want to fulfill. It's basically the only time my sims get much free will; they generally spend most of it woohooing (due to ACR) and fighting with the evil mascot. It really helps to have the mod that shortens time in Uni to two days, instead of three. If they go to both of their classes and do nothing else, they just barely squeak by the semester; alternatively, if they decide they really just want to write term papers and do assignments all the time, they can get a 4.0 but don't have time for much else.
What's really boring is getting ticket businesses to level 10 (unless they're on the home lot and require no legwork whatsoever). I've wound up putting the business owner on Power Idle on speed three and let him do whatever while I go off to make dinner. Beehoosis - Grumpy and Evil are definitely in there, and have pretty different descriptions. I don't think I saw Mean, though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 19:14:26 Beehoosis - Grumpy and Evil are definitely in there, and have pretty different descriptions. I don't think I saw Mean, though. I saw evil also, didn't notice mean or grumpy. There is also loves outdoors, hates children, and insane that I noticed Hmm I think I will make a sim that is evil, insane and hates kids and see what happens..lol Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 22, 19:18:58 There is a Mean-Spirited trait, and yes there is Grumpy and Evil. I haven't checked any of them out yet though; I like nice sims >.>
On the other hand I like the crazy/weird traits, like inappropriate and neurotic. They just give so much strange character flavor, and good story ideas. That could just be me though! All in all I really like the trait system, and like someone said, I could see them easily adding more in expansions and whatnot. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 19:21:22 My poor sim now wants to befriend the ones he made snitch on others... I don't remember that trait, but I like evil more than mean. I will try that out when my sims age up, birthday coming soon. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mikka on 2009 May 22, 19:30:42 I had a sim that was... Evil, Grumpy, and Mean-spirited or something like that. (I think I then topped it off with Ambitious and Lucky, but I can't remember- she started spawning clones when I tried another family and I don't feel like actually checking on her.)
Evil options were fairly 'bwhahaha I'm EEEVALLL lolz!' type: my sim would have a FIENDISH shower, sleep FIENDISHLY, eat quick meals FIENDISHly... yadda, yadda. The only real evil option I saw was the donating to undermine charities thing; all other fiendish options were basically the same. She also could gloat about her evil masterminding plan, or some such: most other Sims seemed to find it boring. (Wankers.) She also would take great glee in declaring other sims her nemesis-es, though. Ah, now that I'm thinking: it also added a moodlet whenever she saw another Sim suffering (usually by low mood) and made her want to steal candy from her daughter. Grumpy, I don't even remember what it did. I think it just made it harder for other Sims to win her over, and she got a bit more enjoyment in complaining... maybe a few more options? She also tended to throw shit-fits over minor things: lots more 'angry' on her mood meter, and less 'tense' or 'sad'. More stomping feet and less throwing arms in a sigh when the toilet got clogged and such. Mean-spirited, I believe, gave some more mocking/insulting options... but mostly, it meant that whenever she saw one of her enemies, she got a happy moodlet. All three were fun, but I think my favorite is neurotic: the random freak out the Sim has amuses me, as does the 'must check sink' deal. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: hooptytrib on 2009 May 22, 19:31:51 Yet another deal-breaking implementation flaw is discovered: "troll internet forum" does not decrease writing skill.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 22, 19:35:17 One of my neurotic Sims rolled "wash hands 3 times." OCD ahoy!
Cowardly Sims don't really seem to have a huge problem with being sent into the graveyard to collect rocks at night. Well, okay, Jocasta did faint when she saw a ghost, but then went right on to happily chat with him about her fishing exploits. ::) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 19:37:49 LOL, I forgot about the "internet trolling". Have to try that too. My sim has only been writing books and improving his writing skill. After that he is too tired to do much else, his sleep clock kicks in. Why did I have to make him a book worm?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: IAmTheRad on 2009 May 22, 19:51:56 (http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1218/screenshot4d.jpg)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: raptureswild on 2009 May 22, 20:03:23 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i2Ts-zyPtq_1NOZV49oeN7ZvY4RgD98BBEMG0 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i2Ts-zyPtq_1NOZV49oeN7ZvY4RgD98BBEMG0)
Edit again! (deleted most of the original post) Sorry this is a double post; I guess somewhere between working at 8 AM and now on three hours' sleep I missed reading a whole page of the thread. I will, however, note that they do call it a "buggy, pre-final" release of the game, which to me indicates that they are talking about more than just leaving out Riverview. But I can't wait for the PR shitstorm if this ends up being another lie. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 22, 20:06:34 Found some sims protesting outside of City Hall. Looks like they're tired of buggy games as well. :P (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/LadyDea/Screenshot-23.jpg) LOLZ! :D I don't know if I've just been lucky, but I have yet to have any Sims I've not wanted to reproduce reproduce without my knowledge. I've had story progression on and then off. Probably about 50/50 since I began playing. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Anarius on 2009 May 22, 20:11:43 Has anyone bought the Ambrosa recipe and successfully made it yet? I'm interested to know what's so special about a $12,000 dish. it gives a 7 day mood perk that adds 45 or 75, can't remember which, and extends the sims life. I think it brings the age to the youngest it can possibly be in the bracket, not completely sure though since I was only 1/3 through a Young Adult epic lifespan when I made and ate a plate of it and got sent back to 270 days until aging to adult. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 20:12:53 EA's statement about the leak should have been something like, "We leaked it ourselves, because we knew it would get pirated, then we could have free testers to find all the bugs for us, and make fixes faster than we can. Now that we know what is borked we can take our time making a patch"
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 22, 20:13:49 Is there any thread for discussing TS3 modding? I dont know if anyone is working in a nocensor patch. But if the old way (with a package) doesnt work, maybe it could be done messing with the dx calls. There is this supersecret "Armoire of Invincibility" subforum (that freak language you use is hard to understand for noobs and foreign people, and i am both), but of course i cant read it. Just another question: anyone know how previously nocensor worked? Did it add a new 'censor mesh' invisible? Then that mesh is in the game files, and not created in the fly... btw, if anyone hasnt seen a naked body... (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7199/62833792.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62833792.jpg) Of course not a working patch, just working in things... So has someone made a no censor patch? Is that what I am to judge from this picture? Or is that just a bug? Or... what? I know it says "not a working patch" beneath it, but the next four words just confuse me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jaclyn on 2009 May 22, 20:21:04 Is anyone else finding the graphics less than great?
All setting are on high, I have a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT. I've tried so many things, changing the graphic card setting, playing around with in game settings, yet everything is so SHARP. And the faces are terribly undetailed in game, they look nothing like the screen shots others have provided. Maybe my computers just bad... Getting a ASUS G17G next week so hopefully that will make a difference! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 20:26:29 I am planning to buy the 9800GT with 1GB RAM, hope it works better. If not, my sims 2 game will be nice.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DigiGekko on 2009 May 22, 20:26:49 (http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1218/screenshot4d.jpg) Captain Planet, he's a hero, going to take pollution down to zero... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 22, 20:27:32 The graphics aren't amazing but they're okay. A bit jagged at times, a bit jagged...
The problem I have with my graphics is hairstyles with lots of white speckles in them, when viewed from a distance. Zooming in close, the speckles disappear. It's only certain hairstyles that have this problem. Am I the only one? (I asked this earlier and no one responded... which makes me think I probably am the only one. But I don't understand why... :\) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Gigi on 2009 May 22, 20:36:35 Born in Game, I have the same problem with the speckles in The Sims 2. The first time I noticed it was when I got my new video card (HD4830). I haven't played TS3 yet, but I'm sure it'll be the same for me.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 22, 20:40:21 I have speckles too.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 22, 20:49:01 I don't have speckles. Now I feel left out! ;)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 22, 20:55:10 My most beautiful sim had twins with that Cycl0n3 guy. They are fucking hideous. What the hell happened, EA? I only holpe they will improve with age.
I am actually now missing my TS2 simmies. I never thought I'd say that. I'm bloody glad I haven't paid for this. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 22, 21:37:39 Quote EA said the pirated version "is a buggy, pre-final" version of the game. Is it just me or is it somewhat unusual for them to actually use the word 'buggy'? Isn't that a PR no-no? I assume the same people who first didn't believe there would be a delay, and then didn't believe the creator camp people were playing a recent version will eat this up. It's always been my assumption that these leaks happen in the going-gold process so I haven't bothered with the debate, but I'm surprised to see EA potentially shooting themselves in the foot with the above statement. Okay, guess I'm not surprised. Oh well, home from the bandwidth-free cabin, off to see how bad this thing really is. EDIT: Didn't realize this conversation was already taking place in the installation help thread. But whatever. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Netich on 2009 May 22, 21:42:15 Is there any thread for discussing TS3 modding? I dont know if anyone is working in a nocensor patch. But if the old way (with a package) doesnt work, maybe it could be done messing with the dx calls. There is this supersecret "Armoire of Invincibility" subforum (that freak language you use is hard to understand for noobs and foreign people, and i am both), but of course i cant read it. Just another question: anyone know how previously nocensor worked? Did it add a new 'censor mesh' invisible? Then that mesh is in the game files, and not created in the fly... btw, if anyone hasnt seen a naked body... (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7199/62833792.th.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62833792.jpg) Of course not a working patch, just working in things... So has someone made a no censor patch? Is that what I am to judge from this picture? Or is that just a bug? Or... what? I know it says "not a working patch" beneath it, but the next four words just confuse me. Just to make things clear. That screen is not actually the game, but a capture of all directX instructions that make a frame. and I've disabled the drawing of the censor rectangle. I didnt make any TS2 modding so i dont know anyithing about package formats. My patch, if i make it work, would be a launcher to TS3.exe that inhibits the drawing instruction of the censor polygon for every frame. I was asking for help to anyone who worked in modding TS2, to know if the same can be done with a package file (some kind or script or something) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 22, 22:04:17 Well, a launcher would be a decent start at least.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 22, 22:08:24 Couple of early impressions---
--I can see why some people were initially thinking CAS was somewhat limited--it's not as intuitive as TS2 for figuring out how to find all the sliders. I'm reasonably pleased with it, but: --Creepy doll eyes are creepy --I've already had some ugly graphical things happen, first when trying to get the game into 1900:1200 (widescreen monitor), and now when alt-tabbing back and forth from full screen (graphical horror happens for a second, then the game seems to get things under control). But I've done a lot of overrides in my NVIDIA control panel, I may set those to default later. --On a positive note: base game makeup actually has vibrant/visible colors, unlike TS2 where it was pretty much pointless. And the ability to pick main, highlight, lowlight colors for stuff like lipstick is teh hotness, sorry. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 22, 22:12:21 Well, my sim achieved that age-old Sims rite of passage by setting her kitchen on fire with Mac N Cheese.
New learnings: - TS3 sims are much smarter about fires than TS2 sims. There was no firedance, and no motive hit either, which probably means that it'll be hard to kill them with fire too. She managed to extinguish it long before the fireman actually got there. - When you burn down the stove, you get a clickable option to "Replace for $400," so you don't actually have to go into buy mode and figure out where it came from originally. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 22, 22:26:44 Is anyone else finding the graphics less than great? All setting are on high, I have a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT. I've tried so many things, changing the graphic card setting, playing around with in game settings, yet everything is so SHARP. And the faces are terribly undetailed in game, they look nothing like the screen shots others have provided. Maybe my computers just bad... Getting a ASUS G17G next week so hopefully that will make a difference! My computer's a two-year-old ASUS G1 and it's running the game well. :) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 22, 22:31:59 Everyone, regardless of video card, should also make sure their drivers are up-to-date.
It matters. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: suziblue on 2009 May 22, 22:35:56 Well, my sim achieved that age-old Sims rite of passage by setting her kitchen on fire with Mac N Cheese. New learnings: - TS3 sims are much smarter about fires than TS2 sims. There was no firedance, and no motive hit either, which probably means that it'll be hard to kill them with fire too. She managed to extinguish it long before the fireman actually got there. - When you burn down the stove, you get a clickable option to "Replace for $400," so you don't actually have to go into buy mode and figure out where it came from originally. Hmmm... maybe this varies by traits or something else. When playing with the Bachelor family they all did the firedance, even Mortimer who was visiting at the time. It was just as hard to distract them as in TS2. Only one of the adults got the "Extinguish fire" option, which kept dropping from the queue. When playing with my CAS-made sim, she calmly tried to put it out. but was trumped by a fireman. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DansGirl on 2009 May 22, 22:44:18 I just found another bug when in game. My sim is artistic and so I have her playing the guitar ALL the time. I noticed after a while that I couldn't find her guitar anywhere, I literally searched the whole house [she hadn't been out of the house] and even double/tripled checked her inventory. Nothing. So I thought "oh well" *shrug* and bought her a new one.
Then later on while visiting the graveyard she went to explore and when she came out I saw this: (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/FlirtatiousTara/Sims%203/wtf.jpg) Horrified! I cannot get the guitar off her! I've tried clicking and dragging it into the inventory but nothing. WTF is that about! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 22, 22:49:30 Couple of early impressions--- --Creepy doll eyes are creepy That is what put me off about the game. They move side to side at rapid speed sometimes. Reminds me of an old movie with Jane Fonda named Barbarella. The dolls in that movie gave me nightmares for a month and I quit playing with my "Walking" dolls. I was six. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 22, 22:53:38 Haha two of my sims born in game have BLACK eyes. Now that's creepy.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 22, 22:56:39 Quote That is what put me off about the game. They move side to side at rapid speed sometimes. Reminds me of an old movie with Jane Fonda named Barbarella. The dolls in that movie gave me nightmares for a month and I quit playing with my "Walking" dolls. I was six. Jesus! That's what it's reminding me of! Also, good to know I wasn't the only one whose parents let me watch that at an inappropriate age, heh. I've finished my first Sim and I was unable to defeat cookie-dough-face, sigh. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nanacake on 2009 May 22, 22:57:58 Was the piracy link on the main Sims 3 site always there? The pdf also?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lerf on 2009 May 22, 22:58:10 Sounds like it would be easy to do a "Chucky" Sim then.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 22, 23:06:56 Hmmm... maybe this varies by traits or something else. When playing with the Bachelor family they all did the firedance, even Mortimer who was visiting at the time. It was just as hard to distract them as in TS2. Only one of the adults got the "Extinguish fire" option, which kept dropping from the queue. When playing with my CAS-made sim, she calmly tried to put it out. but was trumped by a fireman. If it's by traits, Bella shouldn't have been firedancing- she's Brave. Then again, she's also a 6, maybe that has something to do with it? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DaSpecialone on 2009 May 22, 23:13:11 Brief thoughts on the game:
EA must have a string of EPs planned. I don't need to dive into every rabbit hole but restaurants (since I have to wait anyway) would have make sense. Doesn't look like they EAxis couldn't do it--more like decided this will be great for an add on. Seems like opening the movie theater would have made for interesting options, like taking the sims to see movies you created or "cuddle/kiss/woohoo in theater"--they do it everywhere else. Ditto for the gorgeous neverending ocean that you can't swim in, the EP$ count continues. I forsee a heavily overpriced boating/fishing/swimming "fun" pack. On that same note (& yes I know it's a game but) who would stand on the shore hoping to catch a big fish? I don't think a pier is such a far-fetched idea to include. Then again if you dont have swimmers I guess it's no biggie. Weird that you can talk to a newly met sim's unborn baby but if they're holding a child you can't interact with it. *** Someone mentioned earlier that there's no camera mode? There is. You have to enable video capture in options; you decide how long you want it to film, & no I didn't check the maximum record time. Overall Rating: Mildly fair but very disappointing after TS2. Looks like they had the opportunity to really do something great and decided to go for a quick buck. I guess if you're about 8-12 & have TS2 without any hacks or mods then this would blow you away. I see enjoyment after awesome fixes and mods. I guess EA hit their target audience perfectly--gradeschoolers (fresh off of playing my Sims kingdom) think the game is great. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 22, 23:13:42 I just found another bug when in game. My sim is artistic and so I have her playing the guitar ALL the time. I noticed after a while that I couldn't find her guitar anywhere, I literally searched the whole house [she hadn't been out of the house] and even double/tripled checked her inventory. Nothing. So I thought "oh well" *shrug* and bought her a new one. Then later on while visiting the graveyard she went to explore and when she came out I saw this: Horrified! I cannot get the guitar off her! I've tried clicking and dragging it into the inventory but nothing. WTF is that about! Someone was talking about this before -- I think it was earlier in the thread. I'm too lazy to go look for it, but I think they used moveobjects to fix it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 22, 23:20:46 Should I be able to select a hood other than Sunset Valley? Don't see any others.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DansGirl on 2009 May 22, 23:23:24 I just found another bug when in game. My sim is artistic and so I have her playing the guitar ALL the time. I noticed after a while that I couldn't find her guitar anywhere, I literally searched the whole house [she hadn't been out of the house] and even double/tripled checked her inventory. Nothing. So I thought "oh well" *shrug* and bought her a new one. Then later on while visiting the graveyard she went to explore and when she came out I saw this: Horrified! I cannot get the guitar off her! I've tried clicking and dragging it into the inventory but nothing. WTF is that about! Someone was talking about this before -- I think it was earlier in the thread. I'm too lazy to go look for it, but I think they used moveobjects to fix it. Oh lovely thank you for letting me know. No doubt that she will still be looking like that when I go back in game, so I will give it a go then. Thanks again. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DaSpecialone on 2009 May 22, 23:24:04 Should I be able to select a hood other than Sunset Valley? Don't see any others. No. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 22, 23:28:25 EA must have a string of EPs planned. I don't need to dive into every rabbit hole but restaurants (since I have to wait anyway) would have make sense. Doesn't look like they EAxis couldn't do it--more like decided this will be great for an add on. Seems like opening the movie theater would have made for interesting options, like taking the sims to see movies you created or "cuddle/kiss/woohoo in theater"--they do it everywhere else. I also think they are planning on filling in 'the gaps" with EP's. Found this on Simmer NewsDitto for the gorgeous neverending ocean that you can't swim in, the EP$ count continues. I forsee a heavily overpriced boating/fishing/swimming "fun" pack. On that same note (& yes I know it's a game but) who would stand on the shore hoping to catch a big fish? I don't think a pier is such a far-fetched idea to include. Then again if you dont have swimmers I guess it's no biggie. "First Sims 3 Expansion News? The Game isn't out, yet we have our first possible hint at the first Sims 3 Expansion. SimBr. attended the Sims 3 Brazilian event, and spoke with an EA rep who told them that the first expansion will likely focus on Jobs and Occupations. We have just received from our representatives in The Sims 3 Tour event in Sao Paulo information about the first expansion of The Sims 3. Representatives Weslley, Eduardo and Victor spoke to the manager of marketing for EA Games, Ian Freitas, and revealed that the first expansion of The Sims 3 exists, and that probably has something do with occupations and work. Great news! Keep an eye on OSimBR.net for more news in real time about events in Brazil!" Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Trickster on 2009 May 22, 23:31:54 The Associated Press has a comment from EA: "EA said the pirated version "is a buggy, pre-final" version of the game. No way to know for certain until it really does come out, but I think they're fiendish liars. Shame on me for quoting myself, but something just popped into my head: wouldn't they have to download the pirated version to know for sure it's a pre-final? Of course they probably didn't because they know it's the real thing, but that statement implies a confession: "Yeah we did the naughty and arrred our own game"? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: tedw on 2009 May 22, 23:37:38 Perhaps lending some weight to the idea of business/jobs in an upcoming EP, the "hidden" Sims 3 site links to some items in the store, including a male child's hair at the following address (although I don't think you will be able to follow the link):
http://store.thesims3.com/productDetail.html?productId=OFB-SIM3:15885&categoryId=11348&gender=female The product ID is listed as "OFB-SIM3". The current TS2 store offers some hair, clothes, etc. from the EPs; could it be that this hairstyle will be in an upcoming business-related EP for TS3? It might be called "OFB" as a placeholder name until they have a finalized title. That, or it's completely random and has no relation to an upcoming EP... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: raptureswild on 2009 May 22, 23:44:59 Shame on me for quoting myself, but something just popped into my head: wouldn't they have to download the pirated version to know for sure it's a pre-final? Of course they probably didn't because they know it's the real thing, but that statement implies a confession: "Yeah we did the naughty and arrred our own game"? I suspect that they went ahead and did it (can't steal from yourself) and put out that statement purely as damage control. The community here has been very loud and vocal, enough so that other sites are aware of how shitastic this game is. I bet they are scrambling to rescue sales before they tank in the first week. Certainly turned myself off of buying the game, although if the game is actually a beta and has at least some bug fixes (fixing the routing/pathing, lack of genetics, and putting male features on female babies/vice versa MUST GO) I will /consider/ buying it. But I also suspect that the statement is a total lie and if so I will be EVEN MORE ANGRY at EA (if possible, although generally lowered expectations remove some of the rage/desire to throw things and replace it with slow-moving, long-lasting, soul-consuming hatred and a deep desire to undermine any way possible) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Trickster on 2009 May 22, 23:56:03 (can't steal from yourself) If they used a torrent version they helped distributing it (no download w/o upload), and that would have to be considered illegal, even if they own the rights. Well, they probably won't sue themselves, but if they tried to sue the ones who put it up as a torrent (theoretically speaking), they might have a wee bit of a problem... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jack Rudd on 2009 May 23, 00:00:47 This is reminding me of the Beachcomber story in which the twelve red-bearded dwarfs sued themselves.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: raptureswild on 2009 May 23, 00:03:18 I don't know a whole lot about legal intellectual property issues, especially being that there are probably multiple jurisdictional problems, but I would imagine that if it came into court that they used the very service to download that program that they are later suing, there's a good chance that they could convince a jury that they were just doing that for PR purposes, etc. But I seriously doubt they are going to sue anyone over this; cf. Spore, haven't heard any lawsuits over that. Suing people over the internets is really difficult; it's easier just to whine to internet providers and get internet service suspended/shut down.
ETA: Also, I think that if they were to upload it themselves, it would only be a violation of contract to their detriment, and that would be like a store suing you for voluntarily giving you a discount. Nothing illegal in and of itself in distributing uncopyrighted content through torrents, is there? I'm not really familiar with IP law, like I said. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Trickster on 2009 May 23, 00:04:15 This is reminding me of the Beachcomber story in which the twelve red-bearded dwarfs sued themselves. Did they win? SCNR I don't know a whole lot about legal intellectual property issues, especially being that there are probably multiple jurisdictional problems, but I would imagine that if it came into court that they used the very service to download that program that they are later suing, there's a good chance that they could convince a jury that they were just doing that for PR purposes, etc. But I seriously doubt they are going to sue anyone over this; cf. Spore, haven't heard any lawsuits over that. Suing people over the internets is really difficult; it's easier just to whine to internet providers and get internet service suspended/shut down. You are right of course, but the whole thing just screams ridiculous. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 00:11:16 ??? Anyone know why there is no ceiling in my house? I put flooring above it to make a ceiling below and the roof disappears, I put the roof back and if the tiles are there it won't get on the house. Then, if I remove the flooring and put the roof back on there is no ceiling!
Surely someone knows the answer. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Anarius on 2009 May 23, 00:15:45 Well, my sim achieved that age-old Sims rite of passage by setting her kitchen on fire with Mac N Cheese. New learnings: - TS3 sims are much smarter about fires than TS2 sims. There was no firedance, and no motive hit either, which probably means that it'll be hard to kill them with fire too. She managed to extinguish it long before the fireman actually got there. - When you burn down the stove, you get a clickable option to "Replace for $400," so you don't actually have to go into buy mode and figure out where it came from originally. Did the sim have the "Brave" trait or something like that? One of my first playthroughs, a sim started a fire right off, and the family rushed into the kitchen, did the fire dance at it and blocked the door so the fireman couldn't get in to put it out, I would've tried to do something about it, but seeing the fire get even closer to all four of the family and tons of sims outside was too entertaining. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 23, 00:24:14 The product ID is listed as "OFB-SIM3". The current TS2 store offers some hair, clothes, etc. from the EPs; could it be that this hairstyle will be in an upcoming business-related EP for TS3? It might be called "OFB" as a placeholder name until they have a finalized title It might mean that EA, continuing it's lazy streak, just took out the hairs from OFB and put them in the Store. The Storybook theme that was shown also came from OFB, so it's probable that EA just used a placeholder name to mark where they took the hairs from. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jack Rudd on 2009 May 23, 00:25:10 This is reminding me of the Beachcomber story in which the twelve red-bearded dwarfs sued themselves. Did they win? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 23, 00:31:00 Well, my sim achieved that age-old Sims rite of passage by setting her kitchen on fire with Mac N Cheese. New learnings: - TS3 sims are much smarter about fires than TS2 sims. There was no firedance, and no motive hit either, which probably means that it'll be hard to kill them with fire too. She managed to extinguish it long before the fireman actually got there. - When you burn down the stove, you get a clickable option to "Replace for $400," so you don't actually have to go into buy mode and figure out where it came from originally. Hmmm... maybe this varies by traits or something else. When playing with the Bachelor family they all did the firedance, even Mortimer who was visiting at the time. It was just as hard to distract them as in TS2. Only one of the adults got the "Extinguish fire" option, which kept dropping from the queue. When playing with my CAS-made sim, she calmly tried to put it out. but was trumped by a fireman. She did not have the Brave trait, but she was also a CAS sim. Maybe it's a bug with sims created in CAS? If anything, I would have expected her to overreact, since she's neurotic. In other news, this neurotic artistic sim finished her first novel - she gets $142 or so every week on Sunday for 6 weeks. So, in order to get to $500 a week, she'll have to write a few more of those sometime during the next six weeks. Fortunately, this is all tracked for you in the skills diary (or whatever it's called) which you can get to by clicking the little icons next to where it shows how many skill points you have. Unfortunately, my sim's novel broke the Library's computer. Will some NPC/townie come around to fix it, or do I have to risk my sim's life repairing it? She doesn't have enough money for her own computer, and there's no option for her to call a repairman to fix the library's computer. In still other news: (http://i40.tinypic.com/vdjqqs.png) Corner counters: no longer a complete waste of space! Interestingly, even with all the blocking problems evidenced so far, the man making the food was able to easily navigate between and around the two women talking in the middle of his kitchen, both to prepare the food and to take the plate out of the kitchen and into the dining room. I confess I do not understand. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: lindaetterlee on 2009 May 23, 00:32:09 Ok a few questions......
Sims CHILD: What musical instrument can they play? I can only find the gruitar and it doesn't have options for the children to use it, only teen and above. I swear I had seen screenies that children were playing the guitar. Clothes: I haven't found what store you are supose to be able to BUY additional clothing? Can you buy clothes in this game?? Cheats: Can we set up a cheat starting thinger like we did in TS2? Or do we have to type testingcheatsenabled every time. Are there any other cheats than that is listed in the help menu? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 23, 00:35:28 Clothes are no longer bought. You simply go to a dresser/wardrobe/whatever, go to plan outfit, and you can choose whatever clothing you want. You can also make 3 separate outfits for each clothes category.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kazebird on 2009 May 23, 00:39:47 Clothes are no longer bought. You simply go to a dresser/wardrobe/whatever, go to plan outfit, and you can choose whatever clothing you want. You can also make 3 separate outfits for each clothes category. That's a stupid backtrack to TS1. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 23, 00:44:05 Clothes are no longer bought. You simply go to a dresser/wardrobe/whatever, go to plan outfit, and you can choose whatever clothing you want. You can also make 3 separate outfits for each clothes category. That's a stupid backtrack to TS1. Well, the only difference from TS2 really is that you don't have to pay $200 a piece anymore, and money has really been tight, at least for me. $200 never made much sense for a piece of clothing anyway, except in the context of TS2, where money grows on trees. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 23, 00:46:51 Yeah I guess they really listened to the complaints where money was too easy to come by. Now I'm sure there's plenty of ways to get rich quick, but if you just go the normal jobbing route, you don't start making a lot of money until very high in the career. It's a lot different. But also most of my playtime has been with single sims; I'm sure with more than that money is a little less scarce.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 23, 00:52:37 Does anyone else find themselves having some sort of seizure when watching the stereo work? KagomeSim and InuyashaSim don't seem to mind the vertigo, but I can't wait for a mod to rid myself of this effect. :P
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/ThePenguinOnTheTelly/Screenshot.jpg) At least leaving it on most of the time seems to have a positive outcome, especially if they are really into music. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 01:11:02 Has anyone bought the Ambrosa recipe and successfully made it yet? I'm interested to know what's so special about a $12,000 dish. Yep. If your Sim has a good meal like that, they get a 7-day long moodlet worth quite a lot (+50?) or so. I only got it to fulfill my Sim's wish to learn every recipe though. Hmmm... maybe this varies by traits or something else. When playing with the Bachelor family they all did the firedance, even Mortimer who was visiting at the time. It was just as hard to distract them as in TS2. Only one of the adults got the "Extinguish fire" option, which kept dropping from the queue. When playing with my CAS-made sim, she calmly tried to put it out. but was trumped by a fireman. I had a CAS sim freak out, then try to extinguish it when I directed her to, but the fireman arrived and he put it out, but not before it burnt her stove and the counter next to it. Was awesome. She, of course, died in a freak accident a day later when she tried to repair the compactor at 4 handiness points. Ok a few questions...... Sims CHILD: What musical instrument can they play? I can only find the gruitar and it doesn't have options for the children to use it, only teen and above. I swear I had seen screenies that children were playing the guitar. None. No music for kids, bastard EA. Cheats: Can we set up a cheat starting thinger like we did in TS2? Or do we have to type testingcheatsenabled every time. Are there any other cheats than that is listed in the help menu? Oh, and in the cheats, they list a way to reset Sims other than moveobjects on, and they specifically mention if something get stuck to them: resetSim Code: resetSim Mortimer Goth Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 23, 01:15:56 This may not be the place for this and I'm not sure that anyone has been talking about it, but are there plans to share stuff from the TS3 store if it proves to be possible? Especially if they're giving points out to people who buy the game, maybe those who buy it can all brainstorm/play around and figure out how to share and who is planning on buying what so that no-one wastes their money?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Caraleede on 2009 May 23, 01:28:20 -Picture- Is anyone else incredibly disturbed by EAxis taking TS2 Meshes and shoving them into this with higher resolution? Especially as they've been so stingy on new meshes, focusing on "PATTERN IT MOAR! MATCH PL0X!". Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 23, 01:39:15 This may not be the place for this and I'm not sure that anyone has been talking about it, but are there plans to share stuff from the TS3 store if it proves to be possible? Especially if they're giving points out to people who buy the game, maybe those who buy it can all brainstorm/play around and figure out how to share and who is planning on buying what so that no-one wastes their money? If I understand the great paysite debate correctly so far, EA add-on content will *not* be shared (at least not via PMBD?) because they are the only one with the legal right to sell it. Someone correct me if I've got it wrong. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rufio on 2009 May 23, 01:41:10 Well, people here have been sharing EA store stuff for a long time, hosting it all on mediafire so that the cheeseserver is not actually involved anywhere.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 01:42:09 BUG!
Music isn't working in my game. Nothing is muted, but build/buy are silent. For a while, if I went from Live to Buy or Build, the TV in live mode would remain on complete with video and sound. Now it's back to doing its regular pause but all is quiet. The radio doesn't produce any sound either. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 23, 01:48:00 Upgrade your audio hardware drivers, fiddle around with your audio control panel settings? Don't think I've seen any audio problems reported yet. I used to have bizarre audio problems with TS2 (and nothing else), was mystified because I couldn't find any other reports of the problems I was having, assumed it was some obscure bug...until my onboard audio finally died the rest of the way.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DaSpecialone on 2009 May 23, 01:53:49 I guess EA hit their target audience perfectly--gradeschoolers (fresh off of playing my Sims kingdom) think the game is great. I have to take that one back . After waiting about 8 minutes for the sim to finish sleeping(on highspeed...ultra i.e., 4X, apparently doesnt work for sleeping) and 7min for the sim to get off from work, even an 8 yr old decided it was boring. So max motives doesn't work in this one eh? I noticed that not all the working cheats pull up on the help menu. Corner counters: no longer a complete waste of space! Interestingly, even with all the blocking problems evidenced so far, the man making the food was able to easily navigate between and around the two women talking in the middle of his kitchen, both to prepare the food and to take the plate out of the kitchen and into the dining room. I confess I do not understand. That's good to know. Although a hack had already solved the corner issue in TS2. If I understand the great paysite debate correctly so far, EA add-on content will *not* be shared (at least not via PMBD?) because they are the only one with the legal right to sell it. Someone correct me if I've got it wrong. Well they said CC would only be available on the exchange (or through their dealers). I'd like to know too...can they ban modding/sharing content if it's not for profit? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Lorelei on 2009 May 23, 01:57:14 Supposedly you can assign hair / makeup to each outfit category, but I will be buggered if I could figure out how. Also, as noted earlier, the hairstyles mostly suck and clip into the Sims. If accessories can go on either hand / side, it is also not obvious how it is done.
Male hairstyles are particularly pathetic, with nothing in between teen / 20-something scruffy and Balding Mid-life Crisis Guy or Buttrocker. Men in their late 20s-late 40s have nothing, really; and, as Pescado already ROARED about, there are no Long Beards or Chrome Dome Bald Heads. I do like the colour wheels. They get a bene for those. Keeping in mind that wacky haircolour and skin colour and eyebrows, etc., seem to be thrown in a Cuisinart and doled out at random to any sproggens, I tried to make more androgynous Sims, and soon gave up. There are few combinations of Sim builder traits and preferences that still look decent if you swop the genders around. Struggling to avoid a pudding-y Sim means that the CAS stage takes 5x as long, and even not-so-fat-faced Sims can wind up with mysterious double chins. DNW. My audio is stuttering, which may be a personal issue since I multitask and am running TS3 in windowed mode. It is also SLOW to respond to CAS turn arrows, and all too quick to respond to mouseover movement directives. In windowed mode (800x...), when you create your Sims (plural) in CAS and get asked to drag and drop them to determine their relationship, the window, which is not drag and droppable, is directly on top of your Sims. However, random flailing about with your mouse will pop the Sims into the relationship "family tree" portrait boxxen. Other than the novelty factor of a new game on hand, it isn't impressing me yet, save the aforementioned colour wheel idea. I was relieved to see that there was no counterpart to "dislikes children"...if there was a "broody" or "clown car" trait, imagine how much worse the rampant ensproggening going on would be! Egads. If cntl+shift+C still opens the cheatiness, do we have confirmation on what works yet? I see "help", but I could have sworn I heard someone claim "motherlode" and "testing cheats enabled" still work. O RLY? Do share, plz. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 23, 01:59:34 Well they said CC would only be available on the exchange (or through their dealers). I'd like to know too...can they ban modding/sharing content if it's not for profit? Holy shit, did they really say that? I haven't been paying much attention since the delay was announced. They've specifically taken a stand against the free sharing of custom content unless it's within their control? That is...amazingly retarded, even for them. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 02:04:00 Supposedly you can assign hair / makeup to each outfit category, but I will be buggered if I could figure out how. Also, as noted earlier, the hairstyles mostly suck and clip into the Sims. If accessories can go on either hand / side, it is also not obvious how it is done. In the hair category, there's a little lock icon on the top right that controls outfit usage. Locked is all outfits, unlocked is different outfits. I can't figure out how to get the oppsite side for accessories either. I want to see confirmation that someone has done it, until then I don't believe it can be done. I was relieved to see that there was no counterpart to "dislikes children"...if there was a "broody" or "clown car" trait, imagine how much worse the rampant ensproggening going on would be! Egads. There is a clown-car trait, it's called Family Oriented. Both my Sims are insane for kids, but I gave them three and I can't raise any more. If cntl+shift+C still opens the cheatiness, do we have confirmation on what works yet? I see "help", but I could have sworn I heard someone claim "motherlode" and "testing cheats enabled" still work. O RLY? Do share, plz. Yep, that's still the command to bring up the console. testingcheatsenabled true works, they've dropped the boolprop. motherlode and kaching and moveobjects on still work too. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 23, 02:04:52 Quote Supposedly you can assign hair / makeup to each outfit category, but I will be buggered if I could figure out how. Also, as noted earlier, the hairstyles mostly suck and clip into the Sims. If accessories can go on either hand / side, it is also not obvious how it is done. Lorelai (btw love your ferret video), for the first part go to the dressing room / create a sim / plan outfit type screen. Go to clothes, select for example Formal (so your dressing-room Sim is now wearing formal). Now go back to hairstyles. Make sure the padlock icon is unlocked, and select what you want for their formal hairstyle. Now repeat with other clothings. i.e., you have to go BACK to clothes, pick PJs, then BACK to hair. Near as I can tell, anyway. Retarded. I can't figure out how to move accessories to the other side though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 23, 02:09:20 This may not be the place for this and I'm not sure that anyone has been talking about it, but are there plans to share stuff from the TS3 store if it proves to be possible? Especially if they're giving points out to people who buy the game, maybe those who buy it can all brainstorm/play around and figure out how to share and who is planning on buying what so that no-one wastes their money? If I understand the great paysite debate correctly so far, EA add-on content will *not* be shared (at least not via PMBD?) because they are the only one with the legal right to sell it. Someone correct me if I've got it wrong. No, PMBD will be out of this one. Although I would think that they will be sharing TSR TS3 pay content. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 02:12:13 Besides all those bug fixes and major annoyances already listed, I'd love to have a hack that prevents random friend of kids and teens coming over and hanging out, even when your kid goes directly from school to work with no stop in-between.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 23, 02:25:27 I just thought this was cute.
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/simstuffphyllis/toybox.jpg) He spent hours in there, having the greatest time! A number of people have complained about the graphics, but other than weirdness like the stereo "liquid wave" effect, I've found the graphics really nice. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rockermonkey on 2009 May 23, 02:29:03 Anyone know how to bring a grave and get it to be a ghost? Hmmm. Is this not an option anymore?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Madame Mim on 2009 May 23, 02:31:35 Given that this seems to be the place for likes and hates to be voiced.
Like - rabbit holes (in theory), but why do their walls drop? I don't need to see inside something that doesn't really have insides. - the general beauty of the hood, but that's not why I play games. Hate - having to open the inventory everytime I want to make a phone call. - how everything they want to do isn't as fun as promised and my Sims are always ending up moody from lack of fun. - lack of call friends Pescado style options. I played the Goths and lost friends like water out a holey bucket because I had enough on my hands trying to keep their moods up. Seriously worried about - the genetics as voiced by everyone else here. One of my favourite pastimes is seeing the generations of genetics as my Sims move on through time. <edit> Yes, I've seen the toy box hiding. Little George Goth did it - I was quite dissapointed by the fact he didn't leap out and go "boo" then toddle away shrieking with joy when somebody walked by - that's what both my neices did in similar situations. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: seanachai on 2009 May 23, 02:50:08 BUG! Music isn't working in my game. Nothing is muted, but build/buy are silent. For a while, if I went from Live to Buy or Build, the TV in live mode would remain on complete with video and sound. Now it's back to doing its regular pause but all is quiet. The radio doesn't produce any sound either. This doesn't address the bulk of your problems, but I noticed from watching videos that it seems like you can only hear the stereo when the camera is far enough within the house (because, I imagine, there needs to be a barrier for sounds to fade out so that you don't hear the stereo all over the neighborhood). This might not be the problem you're having, though, if you're experiencing widespread audio issues ... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SlickCee on 2009 May 23, 02:53:00 Phyllis- My toddler did the same too. I also find the new "read to" interaction cute as well.
-I already got my Sim to the top of the law enforcement career,International Super Spy. From that point on all you can get are raises. Somewhere down the middle of the career you have two different paths to take. I forgot what the other one was but I decided to have my Sim go the secret agent route. It was cool seeing her don a different disguise every time she went to work. -I also fulfilled my Sim's wish of being an accomplished writer. Right now she is earning over $10000 in royalty checks and I already completed two of the challenges in the writing skills' journal, only one more to go. Have to write twenty novels. Apparently I have 9 to go. - I had my Sim explore the catacombs in the graveyard. A message popped up telling me she got her ass kicked by bears and this is how she emerged: (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/Sims%203/Screenshot-10.jpg) -My Sim went on a tour in the theater after getting a negative moodlet for staying in the the house for too long (Stir Crazy it was called). Only to emerge from the theater with another negative moodlet saying she was bored stiff and wishing they would shut up already. Story of my life. -One thing I have not figured out yet is how to set up public places for parties. The method I'm using now is putting the things I need in the Sims' inventory and taking it from there. But even that don't work because I had a dilemma at the pool where the birthday cake would not place on the picnic table :P -Now that my Sim is an elder she is seeing all her friends die off from age. For some reason she doesn't care. She spent a whole day consoling a friend at her house when her husband died. The game tells me to visit a friend whenever they are close to death. - Something annoying that just began to happen. When I go out into the neighborhood and come back to the house, first the house remains blurry for a bit after I am close to it, and second, all the objects inside gradually retain their textures. As said, this is very annoying. -A few pictures of my Sim, I don't think she looks *that* bad. Although for the life of me I cannot figure out how to get rid of the double chin. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/Sims%203/Screenshot-7.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/Sims%203/Screenshot-8.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/Sims%203/Screenshot-27.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/Sims%203/Screenshot-3.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/Sims%203/Screenshot-12.jpg Edit- Since someone mentioned it. I also hate it how you have to bring up the inventory to call a Sim. I find myself constantly clicking the Sim and looking for the call options. Why would they make it the way they did? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: anaximander on 2009 May 23, 02:59:54 re: phone calling
You can also click on the headshot in the relationship panel and call them from there. Doesn't help for services, but I find that a lot faster / more intuitive. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 03:04:00 Or you could click on a phone in the house. :P
All my Sims seem to want to write and paint, and learn logic, despite my changing around their traits. My male adult Sim is working on his 21st novel, and is making well over §7000 per week on royalties. Plus, he makes nearly §3K per day at work. I think since he's still just an adult I'm going to try and put him in a new career path, but I noticed that an opportunity came up that could have potentially got him sacked if he was caught (it was to write an article for a rival magazine). I wonder if he can get demoted for poor work performance? Anyone know if Sims can get demoted once they've reached the top of their career path? I love that lifetime wants come up randomly for teens and you can either choose or not choose them, or wait for something better to come along. My other Sim (his wife) just bought out the Little Corsican Bistro. The only options she gets, other than picking up the weekly dividends, is to rename the place or fire a Sim. But it's perfectly placed for an OFB-type EP. She can transfer and sell the deed too, obviously. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mercer on 2009 May 23, 03:21:55 Quote One thing I have not figured out yet is how to set up public places for parties. That's strange. When you use the house telephone, there should be an option "Throw party at..." that lets you throw public parties. You can only choose between 'destination' or 'wedding' though, so you're stuck at home with those birthday parties. Wedding parties at the beach are quite pretty though (even with my crappy graphics card). (http://i40.tinypic.com/kq1vl.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 23, 03:25:27 Are there really no complete male outfits except the same nine that show up in Formal? Or is it me?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 23, 03:28:37 BUG! Music isn't working in my game. Nothing is muted, but build/buy are silent. For a while, if I went from Live to Buy or Build, the TV in live mode would remain on complete with video and sound. Now it's back to doing its regular pause but all is quiet. The radio doesn't produce any sound either. Do you know what brand your sound card is? I found out that mine had certain problems with Flash videos and video games, so I had to update drivers (which is ALWAYS important) and find a certain registry fix for the problem. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DJKID on 2009 May 23, 03:30:03 Quote One thing I have not figured out yet is how to set up public places for parties. That's strange. When you use the house telephone, there should be an option "Throw party at..." that lets you throw public parties. You can only choose between 'destination' or 'wedding' though, so you're stuck at home with those birthday parties. Wedding parties at the beach are quite pretty though (even with my crappy graphics card). <snip> I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds the beach romance ruined by the waves clipping through the hair. However the hell that works out. Transparency issue in those specific spots I suppose. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: JacquiES on 2009 May 23, 03:30:53 I finally decided to join all the fun and download this game to see what it was like.
I have to say, it looks nice but I just spent about five hours of RL time playing the same sim and she hasn't made too much progress. She is in a relationship with some guy named Xavier who has commitment issues. I am not sure if this is a bug but everytime he rejects one of her romantic actions, they all fail afterwards (even very basic ones) and I just have to say goodbye to him. They have woohooed three times, she is currently preggers by him, but I have a feeling she is going to be a single parent the way things are going. The seamless town is cool, I haven't really explored it enough yet for it to be any different then hanging out at a single lot in TS2. I am probably alone on this but the whole designing my own things is really overwhelming. I think I am the type of person that likes what is available to be right in front of my eyes. I got a bit tired of designing every little thing because the defaults suck. Themed wallpapers are terrible! I felt like I was in the seventies while looking through the majority of them. I think I will enjoy it once I get into it more, but it made me miss TS2! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SlickCee on 2009 May 23, 03:36:17 Oh no, I know how to throw parties at public places(I already threw 2). I just don't know how to decorate that public place for the party, you know, like balloons, a table to put the cake on, etc... A warning always comes up a hour before the party saying I should set up. That's what I don't get. Or maybe I am just reading too much into it.
Also, the parties in Sim 3 seem to be easier to make great compared to the Sims 2. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: EsotericPolarBear on 2009 May 23, 03:49:56 Oh no, I know how to throw parties at public places(I already threw 2). I just don't know how to decorate that public place for the party, you know, like balloons, a table to put the cake on, etc... A warning always comes up a hour before the party saying I should set up. That's what I don't get. Or maybe I am just reading too much into it. Also, the parties in Sim 3 seem to be easier to make great compared to the Sims 2. I just carried a guitar and then played for tips throughout the party. :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 23, 04:15:37 Couple of early impressions--- --Creepy doll eyes are creepy That is what put me off about the game. They move side to side at rapid speed sometimes. Reminds me of an old movie with Jane Fonda named Barbarella. The dolls in that movie gave me nightmares for a month and I quit playing with my "Walking" dolls. I was six. Corner counters: no longer a complete waste of space! I know, it's great. I have a seven sim household going (cap seems to be eight again) and sometimes the kitchen can get a little hectic with kids grabbing stuff from the fridge, washing dishes, and someone preparing.Yeah I guess they really listened to the complaints where money was too easy to come by. Now I'm sure there's plenty of ways to get rich quick, but if you just go the normal jobbing route, you don't start making a lot of money until very high in the career. It's a lot different. But also most of my playtime has been with single sims; I'm sure with more than that money is a little less scarce. Collect ores. There's a mine that is always a good place for ores and metals. Also, Stonehenge is good for ores and rare bugs. Harvest wild fruit from parks and fishing areas. A day-long collecting spree will pay around $2k, much more than if you spent the entire day working a low-level career. Which you don't, since jobs are only about six hours.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: simsdesperado on 2009 May 23, 04:15:58 I am happy to report that the money tree and elixir are back. Actually, elixir is a plant now, but works the same, and the tree lives a lot longer than other plants. It gives me 4 bags of money on each harvest, the most I got from one bag was 323 simoleons. But I think the amount decreases over time, like the BV trasure chest. Oh, and I love the rock collecting. My sims's house now looks like Ali Baba's cave! Wish I could open up a jewellery store. If you cut enough stones you get the option to cut them into plumbob shape. :)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zarifeke on 2009 May 23, 04:24:49 Yeah I guess they really listened to the complaints where money was too easy to come by. Now I'm sure there's plenty of ways to get rich quick, but if you just go the normal jobbing route, you don't start making a lot of money until very high in the career. It's a lot different. But also most of my playtime has been with single sims; I'm sure with more than that money is a little less scarce. Collect ores. There's a mine that is always a good place for ores and metals. Also, Stonehenge is good for ores and rare bugs. Harvest wild fruit from parks and fishing areas. A day-long collecting spree will pay around $2k, much more than if you spent the entire day working a low-level career. Which you don't, since jobs are only about six hours.Thanks for the tips though, I'll have to check out those places with a collector type person at some point. Some of those things are worth a truckload. Edit: Personally I've been pretty happy with how my sims have been looking, but I do agree on one thing: the sims' heads still moving after you pause CREEPS me the heck out. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 04:29:42 BUG! Music isn't working in my game. Nothing is muted, but build/buy are silent. For a while, if I went from Live to Buy or Build, the TV in live mode would remain on complete with video and sound. Now it's back to doing its regular pause but all is quiet. The radio doesn't produce any sound either. Do you know what brand your sound card is? I found out that mine had certain problems with Flash videos and video games, so I had to update drivers (which is ALWAYS important) and find a certain registry fix for the problem. "SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio". I was playing before and all sounds were working fine. I updated my graphics card and then this happened... I can't imagine the two would be related. I think it might just be a glitch. I had the stereo suddenly producing sounds a moment ago. When I have the Sim dance to the stereo it POOF! works. And why would buy mode suddenly have the TV my Sim was watching functioning throughout it? As for updating the SoundMAX driver, I'd love to. But I've never been able to. Ever! It always comes up with an error when I try to update it and going to device manager and doing "Update Driver" doesn't work. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mr. Snooley on 2009 May 23, 04:38:43 I've bought the Business Towers and started to fire People because I simply didn't want those Jerks to work in my Business.
That's all nice and cool, but when I switch Households and then Switch back to my Main Sim, other Random Sims are now working in my Business, wich basically means that firing Sims does nothing but replaces the fired Sims. Can anyone confirm this? Could it be, that it has something to do with the stupid Story Progression not being truly deactivated? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 23, 04:42:52 Yes. I've been hacking into the system to discover that the Story Progression Off option does not appear to do anything, as the StoryProgression controller remains "Enabled" no matter what.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mandababy on 2009 May 23, 04:44:06 been following the goings on for a couple days now, so I thought I'd finally post some of my experiences, likes/dislikes.
First is a big issue that we had in TS2 seems to be back, and now since they've made the testingcheats alot less useful and non helpful, aside from raising motives and relationships, I could not fix the issue, and chose to just stop playing that family/neighborhood. My sims had a baby boy, and since it seems strangers, and visitors can just do as they please with your children (quite disturbing), that baby boy was KIDNAPPED! lol, they were throwing a party for their daughter's birthday, somewhere between the standing around waiting for people to move away from the cake so mom could take the kid to the cake, and the ending of the party, one of the guests had wondered upstairs and picked up the baby to do God knows what with him. Right after the cake, the party ended, and the guy had a popup that said "Thanks for the great time! I have to be going now" then proceeded to leave, with the baby in his arms! After a few minutes, the baby's picture disappeared from the family panel and was never seen again.. He was still in the relationships, and family tree and even the loading screen picture, but in reality he didn't exist anymore. I invited the kidnapper over several times, visited his house, made him selectable, and the baby was nowhere to be found. It was strange though, that when the dad was out patrolling for his job, the baby's picture would move up to the front of the relationship tab, as if he were near him, but I never found him. I kept thinking I would stumble across the poor thing on the road or sidewalk somewhere eventually lol. Since thats what the parents did with him when they were in town.. But I never found him, so I gave up. Also, the testingcheats thing is annoying, it helps with motives and relationships, but its nowhere near as helpful as the TS2 version. I had a kid come home with my daughter, and she asked her to sleep over. Well they had been playing tag for like hours, and the friend stopped in her tracks and started panting and I thought she was about to pass out from exhaustion lol, so I made her selectable, in order to fix her needs. After that, there is no option anywhere to remove her from the family! So my sims, had now become kidnappers themselves, lol. Silly me, had not saved in quite some time, so in order to get rid of this kidnapped child I had to exit without saving. Another reason I gave up on that family. So those are the bugs/annoyances I have found so far, aside from the gittery-ness my sims get sometimes, like out of nowhere they will start moving at super speeds, for no reason, lol. I have to restart my computer in order to fix the issue, since simply exiting and reloading the game does not help. But that is probably a computer problem I guess. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mr. Snooley on 2009 May 23, 04:52:11 Yes. I've been hacking into the system to discover that the Story Progression Off option does not appear to do anything, as the StoryProgression controller remains "Enabled" no matter what. Ah, that makes sense. Well actually it doesn't, because I can't understand how something of such Importance can be broken in this game, but that's EA so it makes sense again. That may also explain why the heck Inventories get lost when you switch Households, who knows what kind of stuff those Sims do with Guitarrs, Books etc. when you turn your back on them ... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kislio on 2009 May 23, 05:04:54 I seem to be experiencing a bug - when a sim transitions to teen, they don't get their fourth trait. It says on the pop-up that they do, but it doesn't display the trait on their simology panel and they don't seem to show any signs of it. ???
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 05:11:14 MORE BUGS...
This is some fucked up shit, right here... First look who he's talking to on the phone: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/castrostaal/sims%203/TS32009-05-2301-48-30-03.jpg) (Upper left corner) Now let's look at their relationship status... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/castrostaal/sims%203/TS32009-05-2301-55-12-79.jpg) I had them "go steady" and "Sam" was a teen. Now he's appearing to be a toddler, and before in Sam's house there was a young adult (or an adult), Sam, and a toddler. Now there's just the adult and a toddler. Very interested to know where Sam went or if he's for some reason now a baby again. Time warp. In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VeilSethekk on 2009 May 23, 05:25:12 For the people that were asking about same-sex marriages, it appears that the game does declare those as "Marriage", so supporters of same-sex marriages rejoice!
Does anyone know if the "Have 1st child" want is fulfilled by adoption for same-sex couples, since woolProp doesn't have a feature to get pregnant with someone of the same gender. And as for the Fishing in Swimming Pools, it's confirmed that the Insane trait allows this. I don't see why EAxis made it so you would catch actual fish, though. Wouldn't it make more sense that they can catch things such as leaves, coins, or lost swimsuit pieces? And Sponge Bath appears as an option for Inappropriate sims, and surprisingly fulfills as much hygiene as an actual shower/bath. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 23, 05:53:25 Why do books cost so damn much? A normal book, one that doesn't even teach your Sim anything, should NOT cost more than, say, a birthday cake, let alone a bike.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 05:58:54 When slob Sims lick plates their hunger need is 100% fulfilled. ::)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DaSpecialone on 2009 May 23, 06:07:37 And as for the Fishing in Swimming Pools, it's confirmed that the Insane trait allows this. I don't see why EAxis made it so you would catch actual fish, though. Wouldn't it make more sense that they can catch things such as leaves, coins, or lost swimsuit pieces? Seems like they should be able to since my skilled fisherman keeps getting ducks, candles, etc., out of the park pond & the ocean. I think it would have made more sense to have a sim comb the beach with a metal detector. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kiki on 2009 May 23, 06:13:48 Okay, my HORROR finally finished and I got to make my self sim...pudding faces aside, as a maxian lover in TS2 I actually quite like the new sims in TS3. I admit the basic options made for pudding face, but when you opened up the advanced tab, I found it had moar options than TS2 did. I think my TS3 self sim is much moar accurate than my TS2 self sim was able to be. *points @ avatar*
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zazazu on 2009 May 23, 06:14:30 When slob Sims lick plates their hunger need is 100% fulfilled. ::) When sims eat anything, even a bowl of cereal or burnt waffles made on the cheapest oven by someone with no cooking points, hunger is completely filled.More toddlers poking through fat sims, though this teen isn't that overweight. I was panning up and down on this 2-story house and realized that fat sims appear thin for a split second, so I'm wondering if some of the animations are just based off the thin bodyshape and not on what seems to be an overlay body shape mesh. Also, see siamese twins. (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6428/screenshot86.th.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot86.jpg) (http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7125/screenshot85.th.jpg) (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot85.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7688/screenshot81.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot81.jpg) I'm off for a day as I'm in a wedding. Enjoy the horror without me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Papercut on 2009 May 23, 06:15:31 Is anyone else ticked off about what EA has done with the ghosts? In TS2 ghosts were probably too limited, but they've gone in the extreme opposite direction in TS3. They are just like regular sims, only with effects. I mean, ghost babies? Come the fuck on ... it beats the whole purpose of ghosts being mysterious non corporeal entities.
EA can never find the happy medium, it seems. I finding romance a bit irritating too. On one hand I like that it seems less arbitrary, but the way the romantic interactions work is so fiddly. Again, EA misses the happy medium. In TS2 sims fall in love at the drop of a hat, in TS3 trying to make it happen is more trouble than it's worth. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: raptureswild on 2009 May 23, 07:57:40 Also apparently ghosts die if you resurrect your sim and play it as one. So exactly - ghosts are now see-through glowy regular sims. Argh.
On another note, apparently my first child to make it to toddler will eventually become the godfather. Cf: (http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu306/raptureswild/Screenshot-2.jpg) He will grant you one favor on this, the day of his daughter's wedding. ETA: Also, anyone notice the convenient color of toddler mush, considering the place sims pull it out of? OK, immature, but still, it crossed my mind and grossed me out. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 23, 08:14:41 Why do books cost so damn much? A normal book, one that doesn't even teach your Sim anything, should NOT cost more than, say, a birthday cake, let alone a bike. Because they have to pay for the cost of the draconian DRM measures used to make sure your sim cannot copy the book to his friends.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: farmersimmer on 2009 May 23, 08:40:04 Gawd I am finding it a grind,managed to kill a sim by trapping in a room,cannot find how to transfer her to the cemetary?
Looks like her grave stone disappears after the reaper comes. could we possibly have a sticky with tips people have found to enable/do stuff? would love to try windowed mode, but also cannot find that in" öptions" Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DaSpecialone on 2009 May 23, 08:49:01 Uncheck fullscreen.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: farmersimmer on 2009 May 23, 09:14:19 Uncheck fullscreen. thankyou that worked!Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Elruwen on 2009 May 23, 10:53:41 Whoa. Apparently, if a sim has the creepy flower thing (that grows in the cemetery) in their inventory and they die they will get instantly resurrected. :o
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Fat D on 2009 May 23, 11:18:47 (can't steal from yourself) If they used a torrent version they helped distributing it (no download w/o upload), and that would have to be considered illegal, even if they own the rights. Well, they probably won't sue themselves, but if they tried to sue the ones who put it up as a torrent (theoretically speaking), they might have a wee bit of a problem... And it is, in fact, a buggy pre-final, because the official release will be just that. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mandababy on 2009 May 23, 11:30:49 Something else I noticed while playing lastnight having to do with multiples, I gave both mom and dad sim the fertility treatment, because I wanted to see some triplets, lol. My chic got pregnant, when it was time for the baby to come, it popped up and said "The baby is coming" so I was like, aw guess we will have to try again, sent her to the hospital, it popped up, "Congratulations its a girl!"
I named her, and went back to the house to check on the other children, in fear of more kidnappings. Then a minute later I got another pop up that said "Congratulations its a girl!" I was like wtf? I thought it was broken and repeating itself. But then after naming it again, nothing else popped up and there were 2 baby icons in the family panel now. Not really something too important, but I wish it had said "The babies are coming" or "Its twins, please name them" then have like "Baby Girl" for their names until I renamed them like TS2 did. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 11:41:05 Well, I found out you can change the lot zoning, but it's a matter of just pushing buttons, it doesn't give you a choice. My sim family bought Old Pier Point (or whatever it's called) after I turned it into a residential lot in Edit Town.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 23, 11:48:02 Why would it need to give you a choice? There are only two choices, Residential or Community, so obviously, there is no need to present a formal choice, pushing the button will simply toggle.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 11:53:02 Yes, I am aware. But it's not a matter of entering a cheat is what I meant. Leave me alone.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Salomon on 2009 May 23, 11:56:22 Does anyone know if the "Have 1st child" want is fulfilled by adoption for same-sex couples, since woolProp doesn't have a feature to get pregnant with someone of the same gender. A bug was reported in where that happens by itself, i.e. same gender couples can try for a baby, and have success (at least males). Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 23, 12:26:28 In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Mine does the same. At the gym, the 'Electronica' station worked for a short while, and also the buy mode has also worked, but it's very intermittent. I have just updated my audio drivers so I will see if that makes a difference but somehow I doubt it will. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: tedw on 2009 May 23, 12:28:24 I've spent more time experimenting with CAS and building than I have playing any of my sims lives, so I haven't experienced some of the errors others have during gameplay, but I wanted to chime in to say I'm disappointed in the way that EA seems to have taken a step back with some building options for TS3 compared to TS2.
We've lost stages, the ability to place modular stairs atop one another (the way most real houses work) or doors on the same tile as the staircase beginning/end with moveobjects on, individual roof heights, some of the pool shapes, moving painting decor up and down walls... and for some unfathomable reason, they declined to make chimney stacks, stairs or fences recolorable via CAST. It's also a bit cheap that so many objects seem to be slightly higher res versions of TS2 models. I suppose it could take a long time to make new objects for them (although I have built some myself for TS2, so I understand the length it can take) but it smells a bit of taking a cheap option by using meshes built by the designers of the last game and slapping them into this. These don't amount to bugs, but for those of us who spend as much time designing/building houses as we do watching our sims pee themselves or try to navigate around each other, I think this is a poor choice. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 23, 12:37:20 In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Mine does the same. At the gym, the 'Electronica' station worked for a short while, and also the buy mode has also worked, but it's very intermittent. I have just updated my audio drivers so I will see if that makes a difference but somehow I doubt it will. I am not sure whether you already noticed this, but the stereos only play music in one room. Unlike sims 2 where the music played all over, albeit lower and lower the farther you gor from the stereo, in sims 3 it only plays in one room, the one where the stereo is. Go to any other room, or outside, and you cant hear the music. At least that is how it works in my game. ETA: Btw, this bugs the crap out of me. In sims 2 i used the stereo as a kind of background music, but with this new system, i have to have stereos in all rooms and outdoors to get the same effect. Flard! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 13:01:20 I am not sure whether you already noticed this, but the stereos only play music in one room. Unlike sims 2 where the music played all over, albeit lower and lower the farther you gor from the stereo, in sims 3 it only plays in one room, the one where the stereo is. Go to any other room, or outside, and you cant hear the music. At least that is how it works in my game. ETA: Btw, this bugs the crap out of me. In sims 2 i used the stereo as a kind of background music, but with this new system, i have to have stereos in all rooms and outdoors to get the same effect. Flard! That's because now it's an upgrade a mechanically-inclined Sim can give their stereo system, along with unbreakable (comes first) or improved speakers (comes at the same time as the multi-room speaker system, I think). Then it wakes up the entire family no matter which room they're in and they all get pissed off and have an unhappy moodlet about being woken up in a rude way. :P ETA: It shows up at around Level 8ish or so for the handiness skill. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 23, 13:25:19 Yeah, i tried that upgrae, and then had to spend half the nigh getting rid of it again so the rest of the family could get some sleep. I still want sims 2 stereo functions rather than this!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 23, 14:19:56 -One thing I have not figured out yet is how to set up public places for parties. The method I'm using now is putting the things I need in the Sims' inventory and taking it from there. But even that don't work because I had a dilemma at the pool where the birthday cake would not place on the picnic table :P You have to "edit neighborhood" and go to the site ahead of time and set up the stuff you want to use. I don't know if you can put the birthday cake there in advance, but I don't know why not. My political gal had a want to through a campaign fundraiser, so she threw it at the art museum. I went there in edit neighborhood mode and put up balloons, a bar, and a buffet table. Didn't cost my gal anything. When she got there it cost her $250 to "serve" the buffet table. I couldn't determine that there are any bartenders, but people were able to make themselves drinks. When they finished eating, they set the plates on the floor and they disappeared, so no mess. It was highly successful. She raised something like $35,000 in campaign contributions. I think I may just leave the buffet and bar there in case I have other parties there in future. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jolrei on 2009 May 23, 14:29:49 My first impressions of the game are:
1) I like the look of it. Admittedly, with the graphics settings I am forced to use by my old video card to run anything at any speed, things look a bit like a very hazy day. Must continue tweaking the graphics settings and see if I can't improve that. 2) The interface is slightly different, (if it's a new game, why should it be exactly the same?) but not annoying so far. 3) The sims themselves don't look that bad - quite good actually. 4) I don't really know how to do anything yet in game. The Martinez family has given up on me and has decided to read their lives away. 5) I hate the Martinez family already, and I've only played them for 20 minutes. I will kill them very dead shortly. I have not yet had a chance to become annoyed with the scavenger hunt aspect of the game. I plan to become remarkably annoyed with that later today. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 23, 14:36:02 EA claiming to have lost $9million due to "pirates"
"The current number of illegal downloads of "The Sims 3" suggests lost retail sales of $9 million to date, based on the $49.99 starting price." Full Article (http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/other/05/23/0523gamepiracy.html) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SlickCee on 2009 May 23, 14:38:41 -One thing I have not figured out yet is how to set up public places for parties. The method I'm using now is putting the things I need in the Sims' inventory and taking it from there. But even that don't work because I had a dilemma at the pool where the birthday cake would not place on the picnic table :P You have to "edit neighborhood" and go to the site ahead of time and set up the stuff you want to use. I don't know if you can put the birthday cake there in advance, but I don't know why not. My political gal had a want to through a campaign fundraiser, so she threw it at the art museum. I went there in edit neighborhood mode and put up balloons, a bar, and a buffet table. Didn't cost my gal anything. When she got there it cost her $250 to "serve" the buffet table. I couldn't determine that there are any bartenders, but people were able to make themselves drinks. When they finished eating, they set the plates on the floor and they disappeared, so no mess. It was highly successful. She raised something like $35,000 in campaign contributions. I think I may just leave the buffet and bar there in case I have other parties there in future. OH, so that's how you do it. I just found the edit neighborhood tool so maybe that's why I couldn't figure it out. Thanks a lot ;). Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jack Rudd on 2009 May 23, 14:48:51 EA claiming to have lost $9million due to "pirates" God, it's annoying when people do that. That's not the value of the lost retail sales, it's the total sale value of the pirated copies. They have no reason to assume each of those pirated copies is one that would otherwise be a sale."The current number of illegal downloads of "The Sims 3" suggests lost retail sales of $9 million to date, based on the $49.99 starting price." Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zanahoria on 2009 May 23, 14:51:14 EA claiming to have lost $9million due to "pirates" Yeah, sure, because if you download a game, that automatically means you're not buying it... Great thinking. *sigh*"The current number of illegal downloads of "The Sims 3" suggests lost retail sales of $9 million to date, based on the $49.99 starting price." Full Article (http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/other/05/23/0523gamepiracy.html) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Hook on 2009 May 23, 15:07:41 There are a lot of things wrong with that $9 million number. First of all, not every store will sell the game at full list price. Check around and see what you can get it for. Second, EA didn't lose $9 million; most of that will be lost by retailers. EA only gets a small portion of it. But they like to imply that EA lost that entire amount.
I wish I had $1 for everyone who says they'll buy the game even though they torrented it, but doesn't buy it. This includes people who wait until it's remaindered to buy it from the bargain bin. EA probably wishes the same thing. Hook Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 23, 15:18:30 In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Mine does the same. At the gym, the 'Electronica' station worked for a short while, and also the buy mode has also worked, but it's very intermittent. I have just updated my audio drivers so I will see if that makes a difference but somehow I doubt it will. I am not sure whether you already noticed this, but the stereos only play music in one room. Unlike sims 2 where the music played all over, albeit lower and lower the farther you gor from the stereo, in sims 3 it only plays in one room, the one where the stereo is. Go to any other room, or outside, and you cant hear the music. At least that is how it works in my game. ETA: Btw, this bugs the crap out of me. In sims 2 i used the stereo as a kind of background music, but with this new system, i have to have stereos in all rooms and outdoors to get the same effect. Flard! Yeah I have noticed that; still doesn't work GAH! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Madame Mim on 2009 May 23, 15:24:25 EA claiming to have lost $9million due to "pirates" "The current number of illegal downloads of "The Sims 3" suggests lost retail sales of $9 million to date, based on the $49.99 starting price." Full Article (http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/other/05/23/0523gamepiracy.html) Fuck me, but - no! I was not going to buy this game no way no how. I would not pay for their spyware, etc. I definately would not pay AU$100+ for something that Pescado is going to have to patch severely before it's playable (and I'm not talking 'bugs' I'm talking 'features'). In fact pirating may have done them a favour. If I decide that the 3rd party patches and all are enough to give the game more interest than a short term discovery bout I may even buy the game (when it comes down to a more reasonable price). Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 23, 15:25:43 EA claiming to have lost $9million due to "pirates" A meaningless figure when you consider that it is not possible to buy it anyway. The numbers are obviously inflated because everyone is download the Unauthorized Demo."The current number of illegal downloads of "The Sims 3" suggests lost retail sales of $9 million to date, based on the $49.99 starting price." Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: crunk on 2009 May 23, 15:32:20 I've always wondered how they could calculate figures of lost sales for games that aren't released yet. Obviously no one who has downloaded the leaked game will buy it - no one likes having hard copies of things! More whinning from EA while raking in tones of cash.
Also - new bug! I switched households to play the grown up sons of one of my sims, and when I switched back to the family home expected to find twin teens, a child, and a new baby plus the parents. One of the twins has disappeared. He shows in the family tree but is no where to be found, and no one can call him. Maybe I should check the graveyard - but holy hell, if the game let a teen die I'll be shocked. Almost as shocked as the fact that the game ate him! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 15:34:27 - The only thing that's really annoyed me so far is how long it takes to sleep/work. In TS2 a sim went to sleep/work, 3x speed comes on and you blink and it's morning. On the other hand I started with a single sim so when they were sleeping/working I was twiddling my thumbs. If I was playing a larger household I'm sure that wouldn't have been as much of an issue for me.
- Jobs (the ones I've done, anyway) seem a little more trouble than they're worth. They don't leave much time for anything else. - I'm not too keen on the look of the textures but I don't doubt the community will address that in the coming months. - I have observed that a really really really lot of the complaints that I'm seeing about "this or that is a step backwards because it was in TS2" are referring to things that were in xpacks and not the base game. Cars, gardening, Lifetime Wants, saving leftovers, were all xpack stuff too and they're in the base TS3 game but that seems to get overlooked. - I think people are over-reacting to build mode a bit too. It's needlessly "clever" but still simple enough IMO. - I like the variety of paintings they can do. Different sizes for one thing and also different styles apparently based on their traits once they learn to do still life. I had an opportunity to bring $450 worth of paintings to a restaurant for money which is cool. Sims can actually DO something with their craftables. - Opportunities are cool though they could be a bit more clear on wtf you have to do for some of them. - This "enforced legacy play" kerfluffle is getting blown waaaaayyy out of proportion, IMO. Wishes aren't wants. Promising isn't locking. TS3 isn't TS2. Don't promise something you don't have time to finish. Granted I don't see much point to not saving them but that's a far cry from "amg they're forcing me to play legacy style". - Gardening is cool but...is randomly picking up a seed off the ground the only way to get them? If so it strikes me as a little goofy. I'd rather be able to buy a pack of seeds at the store. You can always keep the uncommon and rare seeds lying around for sims to find. Otherwise I'm having a good time with it. I'm pretty pleased overall. What annoyances there are aren't game breaking for me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jadama on 2009 May 23, 15:35:23 "The pirated version is a buggy, pre-final build of the game," Holly Rockwood, a company spokeswoman, said in an e-mailed statement. "It's not the full game. Half the world — an entire city — is missing from the pirated copy."
So we know that this is a pre-final, as it does not contain "half the world -- an entire city" that the official release will also not contain either, since it has to be downloaded after install. Holly should really talk moar to employees connected with a title before speaking nonsensical to the press. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: farmersimmer on 2009 May 23, 15:40:05 EA claiming to have lost $9million due to "pirates" A meaningless figure when you consider that it is not possible to buy it anyway. The numbers are obviously inflated because everyone is download the Unauthorized Demo."The current number of illegal downloads of "The Sims 3" suggests lost retail sales of $9 million to date, based on the $49.99 starting price." Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: siminsc on 2009 May 23, 15:42:35 I read somewhere that the Sims can move from the house they're in directly into another house. Is that true and how do you do it?
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: dorquemada on 2009 May 23, 15:48:40 I certainly hope that EA bosses indeed believe they lost 9M$ and are developing bitter, bitter ulcers while mourning. Mwahahaha.
As for the game, had a couple of crashes to desktop, not sure if it's the video card (ATI Radeon X1950 Pro). Might be because of low RAM+virtual memory or low free disk space. Anyone figured yet if it's possible to split up married townies? My golddigger can't find any single geezer! >:( Oh, and playing evil character is a hoot. Unlike her nicey silly sleeps-with-teddy brother, Evil Neurotic Snob is always in high spirits. What is not really surprising, when you think about it -- in Simland, there are enough daily misfortunes to feed one's shadenfreude. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 23, 15:50:50 I read somewhere that the Sims can move from the house they're in directly into another house. Is that true and how do you do it? Check my posts on page 30. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 23, 15:52:34 - Gardening is cool but...is randomly picking up a seed off the ground the only way to get them? If so it strikes me as a little goofy. I'd rather be able to buy a pack of seeds at the store. You can always keep the uncommon and rare seeds lying around for sims to find. Otherwise I'm having a good time with it. Actually you can buy all the common types of veggies at the food shop, and then just plant those. The seeds that you find can be common, uncommon, rare or special. The latter ones tend to not show up till you have a higher gardening skill. But you can get started with the common ones with no need to go scavenging. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 15:55:47 - Gardening is cool but...is randomly picking up a seed off the ground the only way to get them? If so it strikes me as a little goofy. I'd rather be able to buy a pack of seeds at the store. You can always keep the uncommon and rare seeds lying around for sims to find. Otherwise I'm having a good time with it. Actually you can buy all the common types of veggies at the food shop, and then just plant those. The seeds that you find can be common, uncommon, rare or special. The latter ones tend to not show up till you have a higher gardening skill. But you can get started with the common ones with no need to go scavenging. Lol durr...I should have realized that because I noticed that I had a plant option on harvested veggies in her inventory. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 23, 16:03:14 BUG! Music isn't working in my game. Nothing is muted, but build/buy are silent. For a while, if I went from Live to Buy or Build, the TV in live mode would remain on complete with video and sound. Now it's back to doing its regular pause but all is quiet. The radio doesn't produce any sound either. Do you know what brand your sound card is? I found out that mine had certain problems with Flash videos and video games, so I had to update drivers (which is ALWAYS important) and find a certain registry fix for the problem. "SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio". I was playing before and all sounds were working fine. I updated my graphics card and then this happened... I can't imagine the two would be related. I think it might just be a glitch. I had the stereo suddenly producing sounds a moment ago. When I have the Sim dance to the stereo it POOF! works. And why would buy mode suddenly have the TV my Sim was watching functioning throughout it? As for updating the SoundMAX driver, I'd love to. But I've never been able to. Ever! It always comes up with an error when I try to update it and going to device manager and doing "Update Driver" doesn't work. Could very well be a bug, but it's interesting that you said that yours is an HD audio sound card. Regardless of brand, they all seem to be a little wonky. Mine would work on and off on various things (internet, Winamp, Sims 2, etc.) until I found the registry fix. Might be worth some investigation on Google. Still could be a bug though. I've noticed that music sounds a little strange, and sometimes it takes a few minutes (real time) for you to hear anything. Unless it's this damn HD card acting up again. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: casca on 2009 May 23, 16:05:57 A few random thoughts and comments:
~ My Sim had a boyfriend when she asked another guy (George, her boyfriend's roommate) who was classified as her "love interest" to move in with her. He agreed, and then suddenly he asked her to breakup with her boyfriend. A popup came up and asked if she would like to end her relationship with her boyfriend, and I clicked yes, and it said something like "Sheila has ended her relationship with Bob. However, Bob is not happy with George, perhaps they can regain their friendship over time" or something like that. I thought this was interesting and kind of funny. ~ I do love the career advancement system. I like the categories for advancement and the fact that they involve more than skill building. For example my journalist Sim needed to advance in charisma, and writing obviously, but also in freelance writings from interviews and articles. It's cool. ~ I also really like how you can chose how they spend their time at work and that they can - ahem - build their skills at work. ~ My game has frozen twice during saving. Pissed me off. ~ testingcheatsenabled might just be as buggy as it used to be. I had it on, and when I clicked on buy mode, everything was completely blacked out. Not grayed out as though I couldn't buy anything - a complete black hole. ~ The clothing is exceptionally limited on the male side. I searched for the life of me and couldn't find a simple suit and tie. ~ I do love the new options in CAS but with regards to facial structure, it can't hold a candle to TS2's Bodyshop. So much for high cheekbones and strong-jawed hunks. I am really going to have to spend some time trying to mess with the sliders to get the type of Sims I like. ~ We need more skintones. ~ The eyes are creepy. They have no depth, just pools of color. Also a question: Does anyone know how to put already-made food in an inventory? It just won't go. The little hand does not appear when I tried to drag it to my Sims individual inventory, and there was a red x when I tried to put it in the household one. I lost a friggin challenge because of this. :/ Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 May 23, 16:12:45 God, it's annoying when people do that. That's not the value of the lost retail sales, it's the total sale value of the pirated copies. They have no reason to assume each of those pirated copies is one that would otherwise be a sale. I totally agree...I never would have purchased this game. the only reason I even have it is because it was available for piracy :P Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Scotty on 2009 May 23, 16:14:14 - The only thing that's really annoyed me so far is how long it takes to sleep/work. In TS2 a sim went to sleep/work, 3x speed comes on and you blink and it's morning. On the other hand I started with a single sim so when they were sleeping/working I was twiddling my thumbs. If I was playing a larger household I'm sure that wouldn't have been as much of an issue for me. - Jobs (the ones I've done, anyway) seem a little more trouble than they're worth. They don't leave much time for anything else. - I'm not too keen on the look of the textures but I don't doubt the community will address that in the coming months. - I have observed that a really really really lot of the complaints that I'm seeing about "this or that is a step backwards because it was in TS2" are referring to things that were in xpacks and not the base game. Cars, gardening, Lifetime Wants, saving leftovers, were all xpack stuff too and they're in the base TS3 game but that seems to get overlooked. - I think people are over-reacting to build mode a bit too. It's needlessly "clever" but still simple enough IMO. - I like the variety of paintings they can do. Different sizes for one thing and also different styles apparently based on their traits once they learn to do still life. I had an opportunity to bring $450 worth of paintings to a restaurant for money which is cool. Sims can actually DO something with their craftables. - Opportunities are cool though they could be a bit more clear on wtf you have to do for some of them. - This "enforced legacy play" kerfluffle is getting blown waaaaayyy out of proportion, IMO. Wishes aren't wants. Promising isn't locking. TS3 isn't TS2. Don't promise something you don't have time to finish. Granted I don't see much point to not saving them but that's a far cry from "amg they're forcing me to play legacy style". - Gardening is cool but...is randomly picking up a seed off the ground the only way to get them? If so it strikes me as a little goofy. I'd rather be able to buy a pack of seeds at the store. You can always keep the uncommon and rare seeds lying around for sims to find. Otherwise I'm having a good time with it. I'm pretty pleased overall. What annoyances there are aren't game breaking for me. I do like the game, and I am going to buy it. BUT the job thing does suck. One of my Sims is a doctor, and he has a beeper in his inventory. He gets called into the hospital at the oddest times for an emergency. I know this is supposed to be more realistic, but geez! He was called in on his own wedding day, and another time, he was reallly tired and was sound asleep when he was called in again. I also think they work way too many hours. On any job track. They have hardly any time to work on their skills, make friends or have any fun at all. As far as EA goes, nothing they say surprises me. Their ego is almost as big as their bank accounts. I downloaded the game because I wanted to see if it was worth my 50 bucks. I may not buy it right away, but I'll get it eventually. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 16:14:22 Quote Does anyone know how to put already-made food in an inventory? It just won't go. The little hand does not appear when I tried to drag it to my Sims individual inventory, and there was a red x when I tried to put it in the household one. I lost a friggin challenge because of this. :/ Click the fridge to put leftovers away. Then click the fridge again and select "open". You can grab whatever you have in there and drop it in your inventory. Don't do it too far in advance of when you're doing whatever you're doing with it because it will spoil, even something like cookies. Unlike the 5406978650987 assorted fruits, vegetables and fish my sim currently has stuffed in her pocketses. >.< Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Scotty on 2009 May 23, 16:18:21 Quote Does anyone know how to put already-made food in an inventory? It just won't go. The little hand does not appear when I tried to drag it to my Sims individual inventory, and there was a red x when I tried to put it in the household one. I lost a friggin challenge because of this. :/ Click the fridge to put leftovers away. Then click the fridge again and select "open". You can grab whatever you have in there and drop it in your inventory. Don't do it too far in advance of when you're doing whatever you're doing with it because it will spoil, even something like cookies. Unlike the 5406978650987 assorted fruits, vegetables and fish my sim currently has stuffed in her pocketses. >.< Not in their pockets, They keep stuff in a much darker, smellier place. And it keeps food nice and fresh. ;) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 May 23, 16:22:37 I find it amusing that EA says that they've lost $9 million to piracy, and yet, they really didn't if this is truly the so-called "pre-final buggy version". Can't lose money when it was never intended for sale anyway, asshats.
And of course, they're going to use figures like this in any case because just imagine if the game hadn't been cracked, and people were forced to buy this shit in order to find out what it's really like. That's what they really wanted, was for suckers to purchase the game and then be stuck with it. I'm sorry, EA. You're out 9 million imaginary dollars and maybe 180,000 suckers. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 23, 16:29:07 ~ I do love the career advancement system. I like the categories for advancement and the fact that they involve more than skill building. For example my journalist Sim needed to advance in charisma, and writing obviously, but also in freelance writings from interviews and articles. It's cool. ~ I also really like how you can chose how they spend their time at work and that they can - ahem - build their skills at work. That is the best part to me too. I love how my secret agent sim have a beeper and get called to go to work in the middle of the night, after working in the hood questioning sims and going house to house going thru their garbage. Finally have a life of turmoil going in that family. Also his wife is very depress, just lost her one best friend in a boat accident, preggers and in the yellow. I love drama! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Exiled on 2009 May 23, 16:29:56 - I have observed that a really really really lot of the complaints that I'm seeing about "this or that is a step backwards because it was in TS2" are referring to things that were in xpacks and not the base game. Cars, gardening, Lifetime Wants, saving leftovers, were all xpack stuff too and they're in the base TS3 game but that seems to get overlooked. Well yeah, TS2 base didn't have them, but we expected them to include at least a few features from the TS2 EPs (similar to how TS2 included parties, and, uh...can't remember what else). You know, to build on TS2, rather than repackage it and come out with the same damn EPs the same time around. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: linz on 2009 May 23, 16:33:01 Does anyone know how to put already-made food in an inventory? It just won't go. The little hand does not appear when I tried to drag it to my Sims individual inventory, and there was a red x when I tried to put it in the household one. I lost a friggin challenge because of this. :/ I Had the same challenge or something similar, i was able to "serve" dinner and then stick it in her inventory and i brought it over to someones house, but when I clicked on the pie chart "Deliver Food" was grayed out. In the challenge info is says make a "group meal" if making a group meal is entirely different then how do you make it!?... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 23, 16:36:09 I find it amusing that EA says that they've lost $9 million to piracy, and yet, they really didn't if this is truly the so-called "pre-final buggy version". Can't lose money when it was never intended for sale anyway, asshats. They can't use BOTH arguments at once, really. If what we have is not the Real Thing, then it is merely a very fancy demo. In any event, demos have no monetary value!And of course, they're going to use figures like this in any case because just imagine if the game hadn't been cracked, and people were forced to buy this shit in order to find out what it's really like. That's what they really wanted, was for suckers to purchase the game and then be stuck with it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 23, 16:38:51 Your question just remind me of something. My sim wanted to eat a certain food while at the park, I can't figure that one out either. I did make a group meal, but couldn't figure how to eat it at the park. I see the townies make picnic spots but not happening for my sim.
Does anyone know how to put already-made food in an inventory? It just won't go. The little hand does not appear when I tried to drag it to my Sims individual inventory, and there was a red x when I tried to put it in the household one. I lost a friggin challenge because of this. :/ I Had the same challenge or something similar, i was able to "serve" dinner and then stick it in her inventory and i brought it over to someones house, but when I clicked on the pie chart "Deliver Food" was grayed out. In the challenge info is says make a "group meal" if making a group meal is entirely different then how do you make it!?... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: linz on 2009 May 23, 16:44:51 Your question just remind me of something. My sim wanted to eat a certain food while at the park, I can't figure that one out either. I did make a group meal, but couldn't figure how to eat it at the park. I see the townies make picnic spots but not happening for my sim. how did you make the "Group Meal"? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 23, 16:46:28 Is there a way to drag a stack of objects rather than one at a time? I've tried shift-drag and ctrl-drag. Stocking the fridge is tedious.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cyperangel on 2009 May 23, 16:53:00 clicking and dragging from the top most left coner (where the shade of blue is darker than the rest of the background behind the veggie) will drag the entire stack. Simply clicking once will open the stack in a new window.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 16:55:05 - I have observed that a really really really lot of the complaints that I'm seeing about "this or that is a step backwards because it was in TS2" are referring to things that were in xpacks and not the base game. Cars, gardening, Lifetime Wants, saving leftovers, were all xpack stuff too and they're in the base TS3 game but that seems to get overlooked. Well yeah, TS2 base didn't have them, but we expected them to include at least a few features from the TS2 EPs (similar to how TS2 included parties, and, uh...can't remember what else). You know, to build on TS2, rather than repackage it and come out with the same damn EPs the same time around. Did you not notice the things I listed in the lines you quoted that are indeed in base TS3 that weren't in base TS2? Not to mention a lot of stuff that never made it into TS2 even via an expansion. You really just made my point for me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: blackcat on 2009 May 23, 17:06:06 Your question just remind me of something. My sim wanted to eat a certain food while at the park, I can't figure that one out either. I did make a group meal, but couldn't figure how to eat it at the park. I see the townies make picnic spots but not happening for my sim. To make a picnic you need to buy a picnic busket from buy mode and put it in the sim's inventory, then sim can serve picninc anywhere in the neighborhood. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mandababy on 2009 May 23, 17:23:33 Your question just remind me of something. My sim wanted to eat a certain food while at the park, I can't figure that one out either. I did make a group meal, but couldn't figure how to eat it at the park. I see the townies make picnic spots but not happening for my sim. In order to eat certain foods at the park, just make them, and put them in your sims inventory, then go to the park and pull it out and set it on a table or something, and have them go eat it. But be QUICK! lol, my chic wanted to eat salad at the park, I made it for her, got her to the park, drug it out of her inv and placed it on a nearby picnic table, you should have seen the townie people swarming to be the first one to sit down and eat her salad! For the picnic someone else answered for you! You just buy the picnic basket from buy mode (under outdoor cooking or eating something like that) then place it in your sims inventory, or you can place it on the counter and click it and it will say "pack up" and the sim will place it in their own inventory, then when you get into town, click in the inv and it will say "place" click that and place it on the ground, or it even works to be placed on the picnic tables, but beware of ants and creepy crawlies, who actually carry food out of the basket! LOL Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Quill on 2009 May 23, 18:09:58 Does anyone know how to put already-made food in an inventory? It just won't go. The little hand does not appear when I tried to drag it to my Sims individual inventory, and there was a red x when I tried to put it in the household one. I lost a friggin challenge because of this. :/ I Had the same challenge or something similar, i was able to "serve" dinner and then stick it in her inventory and i brought it over to someones house, but when I clicked on the pie chart "Deliver Food" was grayed out. In the challenge info is says make a "group meal" if making a group meal is entirely different then how do you make it!?... As someone mentioned before, for some extremely strange reason any challenge/opportunity items have to go into your sim family's shared inventory in buy mode. They don't go into the individual sim's inventory. I'm fairly certain it actually says something about this in the simpedia or whatever they call it. It's the bottom button of the three on the middle left in buy mode. I don't know if this is a bug, but my sims don't seem to age at the same rate! I made two sims in CAST, in one "family." They started out as housemates, then got married and lived together for a while. The other day they had a kid, then a few minutes later it said "Male sim is about to have a birthday!" and when I looked at the sims' age bars, he was 2 days away from his birthday, while the female sim had 8 days. I'm playing on the default speed, and they were both young adults. It's pissing me off; I don't want to have him be that much older. My other family seems to be aging at the normal rate, although the daughter was only a kid for about 5 days before it was time to age her to teen. It's very strange, since I think the aging time is supposed to be set for each age group, not variable unless it's an elder. My only thought was that perhaps the happiness level of the sims affects that too? My guy sim has been a bit more stressed than the female sim, but I hadn't payed much attention to their ages while I was playing them. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2009 May 23, 18:33:48 Should I feel bad for kind of enjoying TS3 despite myself? ;)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 23, 18:35:08 I made a new sim the other day as a young adult. I moved him into a house and I found that he was already a quarter of the way through that life stage. Surely that can't have been implemented into the game on purpose? I smell a bug.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Mikka on 2009 May 23, 18:50:50 I'm having that issue, too: I've been making various young adults, but many of them start anywhere from one day to a quarter (maybe even a third) in to that lifestage. I think the first Sim I made was just starting 'young adultness', but even if starting 'new game', others are a bit in to the lifespan. I'm not exactly sure what to think about that: I would personally call it a bug, but considering the random clones children and 'sims moving out at will' deal, it may be a 'feature'. Whatever it is, though, I don't like it.
Kids not being able to go musical bugs me. Fine, if they can't play the guitar- but can't they have a piano? Or if nothing else, read some books about guitar playing? Foo. I am, for the moment, enjoying the jobs- even though my poor medical sim seems to spend the majority of his life at work due to his beeper. It does make things interesting, though. My criminal Sim seemed to get arrested every other day or so while at work, though... that was more annoying. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VeilSethekk on 2009 May 23, 18:51:28 They can't use BOTH arguments at once, really. If what we have is not the Real Thing, then it is merely a very fancy demo. In any event, demos have no monetary value! Well, this IS EA that you're talking about, the company that had the balls to charge for the Splotch Creature Creator prior to Splotch's release, let alone put Sux0rROM in it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 23, 18:55:00 I find it amusing that EA says that they've lost $9 million to piracy, and yet, they really didn't if this is truly the so-called "pre-final buggy version". Can't lose money when it was never intended for sale anyway, asshats. They can't use BOTH arguments at once, really. If what we have is not the Real Thing, then it is merely a very fancy demo. In any event, demos have no monetary value!And of course, they're going to use figures like this in any case because just imagine if the game hadn't been cracked, and people were forced to buy this shit in order to find out what it's really like. That's what they really wanted, was for suckers to purchase the game and then be stuck with it. I love the implicit argument that this demo is doing the opposite of what demos are supposed to do. Aren't they meant to make you want to buy the full version? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Marhis on 2009 May 23, 19:03:15 Played for some more hours. The time/story progression still annoys me to no end.
The days are too short; they spend too much time doing useless (for the player) things, like sleeping and working; too much time is spent doing the stupidest actions, like showering or preparing meal. Add to this the time spent improving skills and stuff, and there's no time left to do anything interesting. EA said that TS3 is focused on socializing, with all the seamless neighborhood and communities, and this alone would make this game perfect for my play style, but there's no freakin' time to do this! From what I saw, so far, FIRST you need to play arcade-like, having your sim collect as many lifetime points as possible, so it could buy the perks which will make the game playable, and THEN you may enjoy it - assuming you've already set the lifespan to the maximum and freezed the story progression, otherwise you'll enjoy your sim only for a few hours before he dies of old age. With regard to the socialization thing, I managed to make a self-sim with a reasonable similarity, and sent her to knock to the neighbors' door. When the guy opened the door, I took a look at the social menu and chuckled because she listed "kiss" due to her Inappropriate trait. She introduced herself to the guy and immediately kissed him autonomously and he liked it, apparently because he's a Great Kisser(?). My jaw dropped. THAT's the kind of stuff I would like to see more in this game (I mean the surprising and funny stuff, not my sim randomly kissing strangers on a regular basis). I see potential in this game, a lot, but until a good bunch of cheats and hacks will be available is more frustrating than enjoyable. When I passed from TS1 to TS2 it was different; now I'm too spoiled by TS2 cc and hacks to accept this game as is. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: maxon on 2009 May 23, 19:08:36 "First Sims 3 Expansion News? The Game isn't out, yet we have our first possible hint at the first Sims 3 Expansion. SimBr. attended the Sims 3 Brazilian event, and spoke with an EA rep who told them that the first expansion will likely focus on Jobs and Occupations. We have just received from our representatives in The Sims 3 Tour event in Sao Paulo information about the first expansion of The Sims 3. Representatives Weslley, Eduardo and Victor spoke to the manager of marketing for EA Games, Ian Freitas, and revealed that the first expansion of The Sims 3 exists, and that probably has something do with occupations and work. Great news! Keep an eye on OSimBR.net for more news in real time about events in Brazil!" I don't know what they meant by 'will likely focus on ...' - they must be working on it now and so should know for sure. - This "enforced legacy play" kerfluffle is getting blown waaaaayyy out of proportion, IMO. Wishes aren't wants. Promising isn't locking. TS3 isn't TS2. Don't promise something you don't have time to finish. Granted I don't see much point to not saving them but that's a far cry from "amg they're forcing me to play legacy style". I think you've misunderstood the nature of the objection. It's not the forced locking and/or fulfilling of wants that's the problem, it's the not being able to play multiple families easily and the danger of unplayed families either gaining unwanted spawn, dying and/or being deleted from the neighbourhood. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SimplyComplex on 2009 May 23, 19:18:37 Can someone tell me the control for changing the height of wall placements, i can't for the life of me remember ::)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Rockermonkey on 2009 May 23, 19:31:45 I love that, sims can randomly kiss strangers? :) thats freakin' awesome duude.
I would have so much fun with that! Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 23, 20:35:16 Since my evil sim has fulfilled her lifetime wish to be The Emperor of Evil, she randomly glows red sometimes. What the hell?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e169/Acid_Blends/Untitled-1-1.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Seolaeria on 2009 May 23, 20:48:23 Apparently, wishes aren't the only things your Sims lose when you switch households.
I had my Sim family's son move out on his own today after growing up into a young adult. I switched over to him as the active household to get him settled in his new home. When I switched back to the parents I discovered that they had lost all the cooked food leftovers in the refrigerator, all the harvested produce (300 or so items, they had a nice backyard garden going) in the fridge, and the father had lost his deeds to the four businesses he owned around town. And they didn't even get the money back for everything they lost! Now, granted, I do have "Story Progression" turned on, but I was only gone for a half Sim day. And even though the father is retired, I don't think it would make sense for him to sell all the businesses he owns. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 20:49:52 Quote Quote from: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 23:34:27 - This "enforced legacy play" kerfluffle is getting blown waaaaayyy out of proportion, IMO. Wishes aren't wants. Promising isn't locking. TS3 isn't TS2. Don't promise something you don't have time to finish. Granted I don't see much point to not saving them but that's a far cry from "amg they're forcing me to play legacy style". I think you've misunderstood the nature of the objection. It's not the forced locking and/or fulfilling of wants that's the problem, it's the not being able to play multiple families easily and the danger of unplayed families either gaining unwanted spawn, dying and/or being deleted from the neighbourhood. Fair enough. I have to admit that I was surprised in spite of knowing it would happen, when I switched families and then my first sim was an elder when the new family met her. She'd been a day or 2 from her birthday when I left her. That really comes down to the Story Progression issue though and whether it's broken, how it's meant to work and whether this really is the final copy of the game that we have. I haven't paid enough attention to what other sims are doing in my game to even notice. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Claw on 2009 May 23, 21:11:09 Anyone found an option or cheat or something to make them drive on the left hand side of the road? Minor niggle but a niggle here You are aware that in some countries they actually drive on the right-hand side? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: witch on 2009 May 23, 21:22:12 You are aware that in some countries they actually drive on the right-hand side? Difficult not to be aware really, the better question might be to ask whether people are aware that in many countries people drive on the left hand side of the road. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: kazebird on 2009 May 23, 21:22:45 It's one of those quirks of the sim universe. They did it in TS2 and TS1 as well if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: witch on 2009 May 23, 21:30:32 No, it's the US-centric nature of the sims franchise.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 21:33:30 In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Mine does the same. At the gym, the 'Electronica' station worked for a short while, and also the buy mode has also worked, but it's very intermittent. I have just updated my audio drivers so I will see if that makes a difference but somehow I doubt it will. Let me know if it works. I can't even upgrade mine. I don't even know if it's possible to upgrade mine. I've never had so many problems looking for/trying to install a stupid driver. But even if I could upgrade it, I don't think it would help. The sound worked perfectly fine the first few times I played, and suddenly it has stopped. But the fact that all the sound in the game works, including the custom music station, but EXCEPT all EA(xis) music... I don't think it's my audio card. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Menaceman on 2009 May 23, 21:50:17 That only effected the neighbourhood view vehicles though.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 21:59:16 Excuse me, there isn't. ;)
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Aphrodite on 2009 May 23, 22:00:09 Did happy dance when I saw this,
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/Twoyys4me/cowp3.jpg) unfortunately it's just a deco item, sigh. We need moar cowplant. Also good that sims can work out regardless of how (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/Twoyys4me/work3.jpg) The fact that babies spawn so easily is scary, but on the upside if you just play one household then they all age pretty quickly around you, with no effort required- I don't care if it's not my family but as has been said before, everytime I visit a neighbor there is a baby on the floor. Major annoyance- why is my female toddler dressed in only a pair of cut off pants? I'm not shipwrecked. If I have to put up with the darn thing I at least want when it was her toddler birthday her parents (who at the time had 2 days until aging themselves) could also have grown up. So is 2 days the max? How painful that for every new dish you cook you not only have to buy the recipe book (because in real life all recipes come in a single booklet) but you have to buy the damn ingredients or the option doesn't appear on the fridge. Talking of fridges- why can't you randomly clean them out (ala 'Seasons- stock- remove stock') instead of waiting 'til they emit a steaming pile of green stuff and having your Sim scream about the stench in the room? Ghosts look cool, rofl when one did the 'sneaking' action to attempt to scare another ghost. He jumped out of action before he could do it, otherwise I'm sure it would have been amusing. I like the drag a wall feature, but it only works on straight walls, no angles. duh. Back to boxes. Lots to like, and lots to be bugged by. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: casca on 2009 May 23, 22:08:43 Interesting development regarding an Unlucky Sim:
He was having an unlucky day (it's a random and very annoying moodlet) and I commanded him to repair the television. He, of course, got electrocuted, curled up and died. The grim reaper came (there was no option for my Sim's recently-pregnant wife to plead by the way) and did his thing. The Sim actually became a ghost and seemed to converse with the grim reaper. Suddenly, the grim reaper laughed and there was a bubble that said something along the lines of: "Ahh, what the heck. It's too funny watching your luck run out and mess things up all the time. I'll come for you another day." And my Sim lived. So I guess "Unlucky" is a sort of reverse psychology, then? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 23, 22:10:08 In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Mine does the same. At the gym, the 'Electronica' station worked for a short while, and also the buy mode has also worked, but it's very intermittent. I have just updated my audio drivers so I will see if that makes a difference but somehow I doubt it will. Let me know if it works. I can't even upgrade mine. I don't even know if it's possible to upgrade mine. I've never had so many problems looking for/trying to install a stupid driver. But even if I could upgrade it, I don't think it would help. The sound worked perfectly fine the first few times I played, and suddenly it has stopped. But the fact that all the sound in the game works, including the custom music station, but EXCEPT all EA(xis) music... I don't think it's my audio card. No it made no difference. Typical that it's only the EAxis music that doesn't work. Why would it? Why do we expect anything other than repeated phail from them? I actually do hope this isn't the final version. I'm so bored of it already. I suppose I'm just glad I didn't pre-order it. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Seolaeria on 2009 May 23, 22:14:49 Ran across this guy in the park. This is Arlo Bunch, the grown son of a family in my town. The genetics engine wasn't very kind to him. Let's hope it's an anomaly.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/168gbxd.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: coltraz on 2009 May 23, 22:16:04 In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Mine does the same. At the gym, the 'Electronica' station worked for a short while, and also the buy mode has also worked, but it's very intermittent. I have just updated my audio drivers so I will see if that makes a difference but somehow I doubt it will. Let me know if it works. I can't even upgrade mine. I don't even know if it's possible to upgrade mine. I've never had so many problems looking for/trying to install a stupid driver. But even if I could upgrade it, I don't think it would help. The sound worked perfectly fine the first few times I played, and suddenly it has stopped. But the fact that all the sound in the game works, including the custom music station, but EXCEPT all EA(xis) music... I don't think it's my audio card. No it made no difference. Typical that it's only the EAxis music that doesn't work. Why would it? Why do we expect anything other than repeated phail from them? I actually do hope this isn't the final version. I'm so bored of it already. I suppose I'm just glad I didn't pre-order it. What's your soundcard? And just so I'm clear - you have no eaxis music in build mode or buy mode, right? And no eaxis music on the stereo? Does your custom music work, just like my situation? I just want to be sure our problem is actually the same. It seems almost like the audio files got corrupted or something. When you go to options/audio and try to preview the EAxis music, do any of them play? They don't for me. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 23, 22:22:49 In other news, I realized my Sims stereo only works when playing CUSTOM music! All other stations and Sims 3 music is not working. sigh. Mine does the same. At the gym, the 'Electronica' station worked for a short while, and also the buy mode has also worked, but it's very intermittent. I have just updated my audio drivers so I will see if that makes a difference but somehow I doubt it will. Let me know if it works. I can't even upgrade mine. I don't even know if it's possible to upgrade mine. I've never had so many problems looking for/trying to install a stupid driver. But even if I could upgrade it, I don't think it would help. The sound worked perfectly fine the first few times I played, and suddenly it has stopped. But the fact that all the sound in the game works, including the custom music station, but EXCEPT all EA(xis) music... I don't think it's my audio card. No it made no difference. Typical that it's only the EAxis music that doesn't work. Why would it? Why do we expect anything other than repeated phail from them? I actually do hope this isn't the final version. I'm so bored of it already. I suppose I'm just glad I didn't pre-order it. What's your soundcard? And just so I'm clear - you have no eaxis music in build mode or buy mode, right? And no eaxis music on the stereo? Does your custom music work, just like my situation? I just want to be sure our problem is actually the same. It seems almost like the audio files got corrupted or something. When you go to options/audio and try to preview the EAxis music, do any of them play? They don't for me. Yep, it's exactly the same. No build and buy music, no stereo music other than custom, can't even preview the music in options. My sound card is SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC, according to Device Manager ;) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 23, 22:30:39 After playing a bit today, my top annoyance is sims who insist on going to bed at night, whether they are tired or not. My guy wanted to go fishing before 6am, so I cheated his energy and kept him up, and then at 4am, he went to bed instead of going fishing. WTF, dude. He was about 90% of full energy at the time.
Also hella-annoying is the way sims will just stop and not do anything when they have an action queued. I think it might be something about route fail, but not sure. My female sim stood in front of the workout machine for a full hour just staring at it before she started to work out. My excitable sim is very funny, though. He got so excited by catching a bug he had to tell someone, and since there were no people around, he told a tree. This made his social go up. I am thinking of making him a cave-dwelling hermit. I like the way they find out traits through interaction. That is kind of cool. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 23, 22:36:57 My excitable sim is very funny, though. He got so excited by catching a bug he had to tell someone, and since there were no people around, he told a tree. This made his social go up. I am thinking of making him a cave-dwelling hermit. That sounds awesome. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: hooptytrib on 2009 May 23, 22:39:41 sims will just stop and not do anything when they have an action queued. Damn. I'd hoped that was from choosing "Absent-minded." Queue "go to work," and I find him an hour later watching TV.(http://i40.tinypic.com/qzn28y.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 23, 22:56:51 Ugh, this "power walk" and unnecessary running is driving me crazy. I appreciated it TS2 that sims would only run if they were late, or if you told them to. Now they jog across the road and they do that ugly blocky power walk animation.
I *like* the normal, slow walking animation. It looks natural, and I think it looks better than having sims run around all over the place. Once we figure out how to mod this game, I hope that getting rid of the power walk and greatly reducing a sim's inclination to simply run gets attended to. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 23, 23:01:43 So I wanted to see how truthful Snooty's comparison pic was, and tried my best to recreate one of the scenes. I'm somewhat
mixed about the results. I'm comparing the first set of pics from here: http://www.snootysims.com/thesims3index.php?id=compare with this: (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/961/screenshot8d.jpg) First off, definitely no light streaming through the windows (and yes I made sure the house faced the correct way for the sun to come through). Secondly, no matter how many windows I put in, it always seems to dark for some reason. For me, it seems like it's always little light coming in, even in other houses. It doesn't look like the bright scene that Snooty put up. And lastly, I noticed that a lot of the objects in the Snooty pic was not in the game, so I had to improvised with a lot of the objects. Some of those objects I don't even remember seeing from any of the older EPs, so no doubt they will end up in the store. It does look a little better than TS2, but not a lot like how Snooty tried to portrait it as. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Chain_Reaction on 2009 May 23, 23:03:56 Can someone tell me the control for changing the height of wall placements, i can't for the life of me remember ::) It's not possible sadly. So while building last night I can say I am satisfied with the amount of objects in build / buy mode, it seems almost equal to Sims 2 base game. Regardless, CAS is seriously lacking. Building works almost exactly as Sims 2, with extra sparkles of course! I did notice the tool to place windows is overly sensitive as it bounces between up and downstairs too easily when you don't have floors in the upper level and also jumps walls too easily and results in that clicking noise repeatedly in your ear as it spazes out. Setting the width of the stairs is win, but why can't we recolor them? They harped about that tool for so many months. Using CAST on walls is win but it takes ages to find something you like. That tool is a bit overwhelming and I end up getting bored and just using craptastic default stuff. Also, does anyone else have the issue where the round circle on top of the wall tool flickers? It annoyed me to no end. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 23:19:28 Hehe...toddlers can climb into the toy box to play. :P
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/daisywenham/Screenshot-2.jpg) (http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/daisywenham/Screenshot.jpg) This kid's dad autonomously taught her to walk too which is win. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 23, 23:23:25 After playing a bit today, my top annoyance is sims who insist on going to bed at night, whether they are tired or not. My guy wanted to go fishing before 6am, so I cheated his energy and kept him up, and then at 4am, he went to bed instead of going fishing. WTF, dude. He was about 90% of full energy at the time. Maybe you shouldn't have sent him to bed. :P Otherwise, maybe his calculated energy intersecton curve worked out to a full energy recharge at that point.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vagabondher on 2009 May 23, 23:25:11 That is one ugly toddler.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mistyk on 2009 May 23, 23:27:39 They way some things have to be done is driving me nuts. My sim had a want to take a bubble bath. So I send her to the tub, and there is no option for bubble bath..wtf? I had to send her shopping to buy bubble bath, then place the bottle on the tub in order for the option to appear. That's too many steps just to take a damn bath.
If you use the cheaper dishwasher, they get annoyed by the noise from it, and stand there holding their ears complaining. The wants and moodlet things do not go together at times, she had a want to see a ghost, so I send her to the cemetery at night to see a ghost, but then she thinks its creepy and gets a bad moodlet. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: daisywenham on 2009 May 23, 23:29:20 That is one ugly toddler. She's not that bad when she's sitting still...her mouth is a little wonky though. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 23, 23:30:22 So I wanted to see how truthful Snooty's comparison pic was, and tried my best to recreate one of the scenes. I'm somewhat mixed about the results. I'm comparing the first set of pics from here: http://www.snootysims.com/thesims3index.php?id=compare with this: *image snip* It actually kinda just looks like the Sims 2, period. I love that pic that Snooty used and am a bit disappointed we can't get the same affect. Did you try at different times of day? Hmm, I'll do that and see what happens. This was one of the pics I kept coming to when I seen other, less stellar pictures, so this was a blow to me too. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: phyllis_p on 2009 May 23, 23:39:39 First off, definitely no light streaming through the windows (and yes I made sure the house faced the correct way for the sun to come through). In my Sim's house, the sun comes through the windows first thing in the morning. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 23, 23:44:57 Ok, so I tried at some other times of the day. Good thing, light does appear on the ground at different times of the day, and even changes angles. Bad thing, not much better than Gunmods lighting mod, and definitely no where near the Snooty pic.
But, better than nothing I suppose. Around 1 o'clock PM (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8092/1oclocl.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1oclocl.jpg) Around 3 o'clock PM (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9043/3oclock.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3oclock.jpg) Around 5 o'clock PM (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7218/5oclock.th.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5oclock.jpg) Around 6 o'clock Am (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7563/6oclockam.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6oclockam.jpg) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 May 24, 00:00:19 They way some things have to be done is driving me nuts. My sim had a want to take a bubble bath. So I send her to the tub, and there is no option for bubble bath..wtf? I had to send her shopping to buy bubble bath, then place the bottle on the tub in order for the option to appear. That's too many steps just to take a damn bath. I actually think that's kind of cool! I always wanted that sort of thing in the Sims 2. I'm an odd player, my sims have to go out to get stuff, no changing their hair at home, only at a salon. No getting groceries delivered, most people don't do that and so on. I like that too. Why have all the community shops if the sim doesn't visit them? I like during pregnancy, the negative moodlet for 'aching back' can mostly be relieve by going to the Spa. Spousal backrubs are okay and appreciated by nothing is more refreshing than going to the spa and getting the works. Helps when the sim comes home, someone compliment her on the appearance. Makes a happy pregnancy, thus happy baby. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: juxtaposed on 2009 May 24, 00:11:29 I've had a good few hours play and there's things I both like and dislike. I like how the Sims look, and how the moodlets work. At first, my sim was always in a bad mood by the time she finished work, but once I got used to how the positiive moodlets work and which ones give a good "boost" she is normally in a very good mood. The relationships are more realistic and I like the challenge of making friends.
The UI is quite messy and I'm still getting to grips with it. The number of hairs/clothes/objects is disappointing, but with Create A Style it's quite easy to make things look different. The game is running smoothly with the settings high, but I have had one glitch where all of a sudden every single bit of text in the game disappeared, the cursor looked boxy and the pavements looked weird. Luckily I remembered which tab was save and exit, and when I loaded the game up again it was normal again. Anyone else had this? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vagabondher on 2009 May 24, 00:15:59 Did I read correctly that the 'woolprop' cheat works in-game? I typed in 'woolprop' in-game and it gave the same error as entering in boolprop.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: witch on 2009 May 24, 00:18:52 Did I read correctly that the 'woolprop' cheat works in-game? I typed in 'woolprop' in-game and it gave the same error as entering in boolprop. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Jorganza on 2009 May 24, 00:19:32 Did I read correctly that the 'woolprop' cheat works in-game? I typed in 'woolprop' in-game and it gave the same error as entering in boolprop. ? Are you talking about the Testing cheat? All you need to type in is TestingCheatsEnabled true/false. No need for the boolpriop, or "woolprop", whatever that is. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: witch on 2009 May 24, 00:20:48 It's OK, woolprop is for sheeple only. I was saving the quote for posterity.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vagabondher on 2009 May 24, 00:21:59 It was probably a typo and I, being the idiot that I am, didn't take a moment to think that, you know, it was a typo. But I recall it was mentioned being able to do the impregnating-Sim part of the cheat. Again, it was probably only pure speculation and I didn't pick up on that. I'll have to go and dig up a quote.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Madame Mim on 2009 May 24, 00:22:34 report of standard EAxis phail. Bitra Snorgbessen has a daughter with Cyclon Sword. Daughter (Celia) has never interacted with father (that I know of). Bitra invites other love interest around (forget his name) and makes out with him in front of toddler Celia. Both mother and daughter get lost friend moodlet, Celia also gains betrayal of loved one and innapropriate behaviour by a guest - What?!
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Seolaeria on 2009 May 24, 00:23:11 IGN just did a preview and they had this to say about the amount of objects in the game.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/986/986159p2.html Quote Keep in mind that The Store is completely optional; you won't need to use it to play the game. We've been playing with a review build and we can say that there's a wealth of content in there already, so it's not like EA is only giving us a handful of items and forcing us to purchase the rest. The amount of content in game seems comperable [sic] to The Sims 2 and its predecessor. Either this "review build" contains more objects than the final game, or what we've downloaded really is a buggy pre-release version. Then again, who knows what "a wealth of content" means by IGN's standards... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 24, 00:26:29 report of standard EAxis phail. Bitra Snorgbessen has a daughter with Cyclon Sword. Daughter (Celia) has never interacted with father (that I know of). Bitra invites other love interest around (forget his name) and makes out with him in front of toddler Celia. Both mother and daughter get lost friend moodlet, Celia also gains betrayal of loved one and innapropriate behaviour by a guest - What?! This behavior is known to us. It has been targeted for termination.Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: DansGirl on 2009 May 24, 00:34:26 Ran across this guy in the park. This is Arlo Bunch, the grown son of a family in my town. The genetics engine wasn't very kind to him. Let's hope it's an anomaly. (http://i40.tinypic.com/168gbxd.jpg) I'm more concerned with the fire fighter! Surely they should be fit for work and not be a little fatty! :D Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: rohina on 2009 May 24, 00:42:10 After playing a bit today, my top annoyance is sims who insist on going to bed at night, whether they are tired or not. My guy wanted to go fishing before 6am, so I cheated his energy and kept him up, and then at 4am, he went to bed instead of going fishing. WTF, dude. He was about 90% of full energy at the time. Maybe you shouldn't have sent him to bed. :P Otherwise, maybe his calculated energy intersecton curve worked out to a full energy recharge at that point.I didn't send him to bed. He was supposed to be reading. I was checking on his roommate, and when I looked back at him, he was in bed. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: farmersimmer on 2009 May 24, 00:44:56 IGN just did a preview and they had this to say about the amount of objects in the game. Either this "review build" contains more objects than the final game, or what we've downloaded really is a buggy pre-release version. Then again, who knows what "a wealth of content" means by IGN's standards... Why leave content out of a "pre-release build"? Sorry, just can't see EA deciding later to throw in more showers, counters etc or "oh we forgot to put in a spa,spiral stairs or even elevators." Its more logical if they have a shop set up to buy items for frustrated users wanting better game content. I wonder also what that creator camp was all about? Because I cannot see many new objects that weren't already in the base sims 2 game? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 May 24, 00:47:57 It's just propaganda. Games like this go "feature complete" well before the release. This build was compiled a scant 2 weeks before Gold. While it is not the FINAL, FINAL, it is feature-complete and nothing you will see in the final build is not in this one.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Acid_fairy on 2009 May 24, 00:53:51 report of standard EAxis phail. Bitra Snorgbessen has a daughter with Cyclon Sword. Daughter (Celia) has never interacted with father (that I know of). Bitra invites other love interest around (forget his name) and makes out with him in front of toddler Celia. Both mother and daughter get lost friend moodlet, Celia also gains betrayal of loved one and innapropriate behaviour by a guest - What?! Same happened with me, with the twins of Cyl0n3 Sw0rd heh. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: BeautyWitch on 2009 May 24, 00:59:14 They way some things have to be done is driving me nuts. My sim had a want to take a bubble bath. So I send her to the tub, and there is no option for bubble bath..wtf? I had to send her shopping to buy bubble bath, then place the bottle on the tub in order for the option to appear. That's too many steps just to take a damn bath. I actually think that's kind of cool! I always wanted that sort of thing in the Sims 2. I'm an odd player, my sims have to go out to get stuff, no changing their hair at home, only at a salon. No getting groceries delivered, most people don't do that and so on. Edited: Because my keyboard sucks Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Kyna on 2009 May 24, 01:01:17 EA claiming to have lost $9million due to "pirates" "The current number of illegal downloads of "The Sims 3" suggests lost retail sales of $9 million to date, based on the $49.99 starting price." Full Article (http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/other/05/23/0523gamepiracy.html) You know, when I mentioned that tinfoil theory of mine earlier (that EA would be blaming the piracy & early leaking for lost sales) I wasn't really being serious. Maybe I need to upgrade to a better quality brand of tinfoil before someone finds evidence that the game really was leaked to the pirates by EA. And on the game itself now that I've had a chance to play it: if I'd never seen TS2, if I'd gone straight from TS1 to TS3 instead, I'd probably think TS3 was awesome. But I didn't go from TS1 to TS3. I played TS2, so I know how awesome the Sims franchise can really be (even when the game is base game & unmodded), and I can see how much of the game's potential was cut out of TS3. This is a big step backwards from TS2, not a step forwards. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: nanacake on 2009 May 24, 01:03:24 Celia also gains betrayal of loved one and innapropriate behaviour by a guest - What?! That would make sense if she was a child sim but not a toddler. Because children irl can be against their single parent's love interest sometimes and they're old enough to understand what's going on. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Crazetex on 2009 May 24, 01:07:43 (Screenshots link'd because they are quite large.)
http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-46.jpg I CAN HAZ BEBE IN HOUSE OF FRIEND? http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-106.jpg SKLJSNDBLKNSKL BEBEZ http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-111.jpg BEBE SMELLT LEIK PLATES, SORRZ http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-177.jpg I'M IN UR YARD, EATING UR SOUL And this is why I love The Sims 3 so much. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cwieberdink on 2009 May 24, 01:09:24 I've been playing since the second day this was out. My husband came home on the second full day of play, took one look at the house (laundry strewn about everywhere, kids running amok, etc) and said, "Well, I see you've been simming." LOL
The good: -Traits, FTW. I have a good, handy, friendly sim who fell in love with the flirty maid. His flirty rockstar roomie immediately started putting the moves on her. So hilarious! -Collecting. I like being able to find things worth money, and I'm enjoying the gardening. - CAST for the most part is win. I like being able to customize EVERYTHING (except stairs of course :P) I do sometimes get overwhelmed with the choices and just give up and pick something crappy and default. - Open world. Even at 1 AM feels "real" to me. I LOVE being able to see what each household sim is up to. I LOVE being able to go into neighbors' houses and see all their stuff and hang with the fam. - The different ways to work, different ways to socialize. - Sunrise, sunset. The bad: - pathfinding. Two of my sims were standing outside flirting. I sent them inside to woohoo. The male went in the door and relaxed on the bed. The female went around the side of the house and stood there complaining that she couldn't get to the bed. WTF? - random spawning/progression of the neighborhood. In Pescado We Trust. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: bubbs on 2009 May 24, 01:09:54 Has anyone found the money tree seeds or the death tree seeds? My girl wants to grow those stupid things and I haven't found them yet. I guess she needs to go back to the catacombs, where she found the Life Tree seeds. Not really sure what the Life Tree plants do for you yet though. I let her eat one and nothing happened.
ETA - I love gardening, esp not having to plant after every harvest Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: VeilSethekk on 2009 May 24, 01:12:14 Not really sure what the Life Tree plants do for you yet though. I let her eat one and nothing happened. I believe it's one of the ingredients for the Ambrosia food recipe, which supposedly works as the Elixir of Life of TS3. I assume you need maximum Gardening to plant those, right? And has anyone figured out where you can fish for the other ingredient for that recipe, which was called Deathfish or something like that. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Madame Mim on 2009 May 24, 01:20:10 Pescado - Right oh, thought I might be behind the 8 ball on that one, but nothing lost by saying it outloud, either.
Witch - speaking of cheats. Is there a consolidated list out there of what does and doesn't work atm? Bubbs - the death plant is in the cemetary, you have to get there at the right time to harvest it, so you may have to visit more than once. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Crazetex on 2009 May 24, 01:25:19 Second batch of reasons why I love this game (now with non-lolcaptions!):
http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-96.jpg Dear Diary, today I rolled the wish to flirt with my boyfriend's father. While cheating can be fun, it's even better to just cut the problem open with a sharp plate. http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-102.jpg DO NOT TRY TO KISS THE AUTONMOUS LESBIAN (exciting news!). http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-109.jpg W-what made you guess that the elder was Family-Oriented with a Fertility Treatment? http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-160.jpg I really need to split up this household, but the Reynold clan is taking over five houses already. In other news, three of the seven Reynold daughters are autonomous lesbians. http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-153.jpg "You're getting married in that shirt?" http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-70.jpg Hey, Snobs have wishes too. http://www.rpgmaker.net/~craze/Junk/Screenshot-125.jpg Welp it seems that there are ancient indians in my fridge. "Tastes like fridge" moodlet, indeed... Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: cassblonde on 2009 May 24, 01:27:37 Speaking of cheats. Is there a consolidated list out there of what does and doesn't work atm? It may be way outdated but Snooty has a list up - Right Here (http://www.snootysims.com/thesims3index.php?id=cheats) Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: witch on 2009 May 24, 01:44:09 I just typed 'help' at the command prompt. That gave me a list of available commands; there are less than in TS2.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Solowren on 2009 May 24, 01:50:59 Typing 'help' in the console in CAS shows more cheats than typing it in in neighborhood view.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: farmersimmer on 2009 May 24, 01:52:27 I've been playing since the second day this was out. My husband came home on the second full day of play, took one look at the house (laundry strewn about everywhere, kids running amok, etc) and said, "Well, I see you've been simming." LOL LOL I thought you meant inside the sims house, but they wouldn't leave laundry everywhere!Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: jello on 2009 May 24, 01:57:40 Not really sure what the Life Tree plants do for you yet though. I let her eat one and nothing happened. I believe it's one of the ingredients for the Ambrosia food recipe, which supposedly works as the Elixir of Life of TS3. I assume you need maximum Gardening to plant those, right? And has anyone figured out where you can fish for the other ingredient for that recipe, which was called Deathfish or something like that. To get Deathfish, you need to fish at the graveyard between midnight and 4am. You need to use angelfish as bait--and to catch an angelfish, you need a certain type of catfish for bait (it's the kind you can buy at the store). Deathfish and angel fish are levels 10 and 8 respectively, but using the right bait, I was able to catch them before I had the right fishing skill level. Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: Madame Mim on 2009 May 24, 02:03:49 I just typed 'help' at the command prompt. That gave me a list of available commands; there are less than in TS2. Type help in cheat box - sorry too obvious (at least that's my excuse for not thinking of it). Thanks Cassblonde - thanks for the link Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: SlickCee on 2009 May 24, 02:15:39 Oh wow. As soon as my Sim's husband left from work, he died. His coworker came out as well and watched the whole thing. Only to faint right right after. Now that was hilarious.
Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: vagabondher on 2009 May 24, 02:17:30 Oh wow. As soon as my Sim's husband left from work, he died. His coworker came out as well and watched the whole thing. Only to faint right right after. Now that was hilarious. :o What did he die of? Title: Re: THE HORROR: The REAL TS3 Scoop As It Unfolds Post by: mandababy on 2009 May 24, 02:40:00 Major annoyance- why is my female toddler dressed in only a pair of cut off pants? I'm not shipwrecked. If I have to put up with the darn thing I at least want when it was her toddler birthday her parents (who at the time had 2 days until aging themselves) could also have grown up. So is 2 days the max? You can have a toddler sim selected and click the dresser and say "plan outfit" also you can click the mirror with toddler selected and they change their own appearance too! Also, for some graphical glitches, and some good laughs, I have some screenshots. I noticed while planning my toddlers outfit, when I spun her around, her eyes were black in the mirror, it was very creepy. Her eyes are actually green, and when facing the mirror they turned black. All my settings are maxed, so its not an issue with that. (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/mandababy2003/Screenshot-7.jpg) (http://i12.photob |