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Title: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 18, 12:28:52
Ominous sign.   :(

Probably means another SimPE update needed too.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Emma on 2008 November 18, 14:30:13
Oh, that is weird. How do you know, is it out yet?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Simsample on 2008 November 18, 14:36:08
In the pre-release promo video, there was a shot of someone sliding down a bannister. I wonder if it is a 'super' stuff pack with new anims?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2008 November 18, 14:38:34
You fool, never trust trailers! They are explicitly designed to hype you up, and you will inevitably be disappointed! Have you ever seen any child in TS2 swing from a ceiling fan? I THINK NOT!


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Emma on 2008 November 18, 14:41:03
There are no ceiling fans! :D


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Liz on 2008 November 18, 16:02:18
There are no ceiling fans! :D
Details, details... ::)

Wait, but there are ceiling fans in this new L&P, so we're halfway there, right? Feh, I still want my fire-breathing toddlers, cross-dressing butlers, and bodice-ripping animations.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: jolrei on 2008 November 18, 16:42:34
If the kids can swing from the ceiling fans, I want!  Otherwise, meh.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Annette on 2008 November 19, 00:50:00
Bugger. Now we have to wait for a new no cd crack. Not that I have the game, yet but still. I wonder why they have done that.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Cerridwen on 2008 November 19, 00:56:16
This is what I've found so far.  

The ceiling fans spin.  There are two speed options. After you turn it on, then the menu changes to an option to "increase speed" or some such. If you choose that then the menu changes to "reduce speed" or some such wording.  You can see a slight change of speed rotation.  

There is also a new menu option added to all flowers.  Your sims now have an option to "smell" the flowers.  They get down and sniff them.  It seems to increase fun, however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  

There is also a windmill and solar panels that according to the SP's manual "lower your Sims bills" and "save Simolions" but I have not yet tested that to see if it's true or just L&P.

Not enough new plants IMO wanted MOAR.  Tons of new walls, no new floors.   The new hair styles are OK. They are almost all Child through Elder with a couple exceptions. New terrain paints to give your yards a freshly mowed look.  

My big disapointment was the staircase. It is only one huge double staircase with a larger than normal foot print.  Very limited use for me.  I was really hoping it would be two so you could only use half of it for smaller houses.  

Will update if I find anything else of interest.    


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Marhis on 2008 November 19, 01:17:31
however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  
I bet they don't, because they forget to add FT code to them (never let programmers, working on some part of the game, know what other programmer teams are doing)

There is also a windmill and solar panels that according to the SP's manual "lower your Sims bills" and "save Simolions" but I have not yet tested that to see if it's true or just L&P.
2° bet: they will pay 10§ less at the mailbox. HOORAY!!!11

My big disapointment was the staircase. It is only one huge double staircase with a larger than normal foot print.  Very limited use for me.  I was really hoping it would be two so you could only use half of it for smaller houses.
Hey, hey! It's Mansions & Gardens, isn't it? You'll have a HUGE mansion with a HUGE hall with a HUGE staircase in the middle, so your sims will pass the whole afternoon walking from the mailbox to the endtable on the fifth floor* to drop their cheaper bills. See how all this makes a lot of sense?
Oh, and the staircase will allow only one sim at once, while the others will wave their arms downstairs in frustration.

I'm disappointed that there is no giant butler statue shipped with all that stuff; it would be classy.




* They fixed that bug, didn't they?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Richief on 2008 November 19, 01:18:56
There is also a new menu option added to all flowers.  Your sims now have an option to "smell" the flowers.  They get down and sniff them.  It seems to increase fun, however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  

There is also a windmill and solar panels that according to the SP's manual "lower your Sims bills" and "save Simolions" but I have not yet tested that to see if it's true or just L&P.

Anyone with the newest L&P can send me the new flower interaction? I'll fix the no hobby enthusiasm problem, if it is required. I aslo want to check the solar panel and windmill's BHAV (I may be able to tell if they do lower bills), thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 November 19, 01:21:25
Send an objects.package and I'll feed it through hackdiff and check for the obvious reborks.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Cerridwen on 2008 November 19, 01:35:02
I would be happy to send packages if someone would give a brief how to explaination. 

Or is it just uploading the c/eagames/M&P/Tsdata/ ect. objects and objectscript package?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 November 19, 01:35:57
Deposit "objects.package" by anonftp to ftp.kludgemush.com. You're supposed to be smart, so figure it out.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Cerridwen on 2008 November 19, 02:18:51
I think I figured it out.  ;D


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 November 19, 02:27:16
Now go! And kill gruesomely in my name!


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Simsample on 2008 November 19, 02:47:49
You fool, never trust trailers! They are explicitly designed to hype you up, and you will inevitably be disappointed! Have you ever seen any child in TS2 swing from a ceiling fan? I THINK NOT!
:D Someone has reported that they had a child slide down the bannister autonomously; but that they couldn't click to make them do it. Maybe I should ask about the ceiling fans!  ;D


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Cerridwen on 2008 November 19, 03:11:08
There are also new build mode additions.  There is an architecture button now in build mode that lists all of the decorative architecture items.  It includes the venting and piping and roofing items from Free Time as well.

Also under the roofing there is an new tool to set the angle of roofs so the individualroofslopeangle cheat is no longer necessary.  It can be done with a simple slider to set the number of the angle and then click on the roof you want to change. 

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p168/pandora4co/rooftool.jpg)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: fway on 2008 November 19, 03:37:34
Roof angle chooser? Hell yeah!

Alright, for those of you who have it now, can the new planters go on the tables? If not... you all know what I shall be doing when I get it. ;)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: vecki on 2008 November 19, 03:42:10
Also under the roofing there is an new tool to set the angle of roofs so the individualroofslopeangle cheat is no longer necessary.  It can be done with a simple slider to set the number of the angle and then click on the roof you want to change. 

GAH!  WANT!  Except I am anti-Stuff Pack.  I can has dilemma?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: toad on 2008 November 19, 03:51:11
Just think of it as an EP ;)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Bugger on 2008 November 19, 04:03:35
Also under the roofing there is an new tool to set the angle of roofs so the individualroofslopeangle cheat is no longer necessary.  It can be done with a simple slider to set the number of the angle and then click on the roof you want to change. 

GAH!  WANT!  Except I am anti-Stuff Pack.  I can has dilemma?

You can haz arring skills?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Cerridwen on 2008 November 19, 04:41:19

There is also a new menu option added to all flowers.  Your sims now have an option to "smell" the flowers.  They get down and sniff them.  It seems to increase fun, however i did not notice the nature hobby symbol so I'm not sure if the
sim gets a nature enthusiasm boost or not.  
 

OK I was wrong - I am now seeing the nature hobby ++ symbol when they sniff flowers, so this seems to be working.

As for the planters - the small cacti planter is able to go on tables and counters. The larger planters, the potted perennials and potted coleus, are not.  The large Moroccan plant and the phallus flower plant are end table size themselves.



Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Yaakovashoshana on 2008 November 19, 05:55:36
There are no ceiling fans! :D

This pack has ceiling fans.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 19, 07:33:44
ikanhazindividualroofslopesliders!!!!!!!11111onetyone


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Emma on 2008 November 19, 08:23:09
ikanhazindividualroofslopesliders!!!!!!!11111onetyone

I know! I damned near weed myself when I saw that :D I can't wait for this L&P now. Only 2 more days. Yay.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: kazebird on 2008 November 19, 13:16:44
It adds recolors for mailboxes, and apt mailboxes as well! I need it!

It looks like the sim team is finally shaping up. Too bad it's so close to the end.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: kazebird on 2008 November 19, 14:38:42
Maybe so, but stuff packs should add new features, and they didn't have to add them.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: jolrei on 2008 November 19, 14:58:37
It adds recolors for mailboxes, and apt mailboxes as well! I need it!
It looks like the sim team is finally shaping up. Too bad it's so close to the end.

How in the heck are they "shaping up"? They make you use the new stuff pack to run the game! This means we have to update all our shit when we just did that for Apartment Life.

All part of the game, isn't it?  I mean, if it was just a straight stuffpack, they know we'd all just arrr it and go on our merry way running from the AL no-cd.  This way, they make it more difficult, in hopes of selling it before the torrents come out.  Won't work of course.

As to "close to the end", if TS3 flops, and we all keep playng TS2, who knows where the end actually is?  I'm certainly not jumping on TS3 the day it comes out - I'm far too invested in the current game and have not yet explored all its possibilities.  I have not had a werewolf.  I have not built an apartment.  I have never had a YA in a greek house.  There's too much left to do.  The end is not in sight until you think it is.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 19, 15:40:20
Oh don't - please!  I don't want me and Peter to be updating SimPE till we're on our pensions  :(


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: jolrei on 2008 November 19, 15:51:03
Oh don't - please!  I don't want me and Peter to be updating SimPE till we're on our pensions  :(

Speaking of which, I think I still need to download SimPE for AL.  Haven't used it in a while, I guess.  Anyhow, I didn't mean that EAxis would necessarily continue to release EPs and SPs, but that as long as the game continues to interest me, and I find new stuff to do, I see no particular reason to call it quits the day TS3 comes out.  TS2 will likely continue to be played for a while yet (without the need to update SimPE anymore).


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 16:07:08
Hur. If it wasn't for my MATY sims, I wouldn't use SimPE at all. I have to have everyone's interests right, after all.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: kazebird on 2008 November 19, 16:23:20
I mean the end of official content. I will never get The Sims 3.

Anyway can someone post a pic of the new build mode section?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 November 19, 16:37:07
ikanhazindividualroofslopesliders!!!!!!!11111onetyone

I know! I damned near weed myself when I saw that :D I can't wait for this L&P now. Only 2 more days. Yay.
I know I know!

I don't need more garden stuff. It's nice, but I have a shitload of CC flowers and bushes and trees. I don't care for the staircase as I don't do big homes. The thing would probably take up an entire house of mine. I just built a two story 12x14 monstrosity for an orphanage and was almost crying because it was so huge and everything in me was screaming to make it smaller. Ceiling fans? Nice, but without the fire-breathing toddlers swinging from them they are nothing but a cruel joke.

Easier roof angling? Need. Yay for pirate cat.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 November 19, 16:41:50
Hur. If it wasn't for my MATY sims, I wouldn't use SimPE at all. I have to have everyone's interests right, after all.
Don't need SimPE, interests are draggable in debug mode.

I mean the end of official content. I will never get The Sims 3.
We shall see. It's a bit early to say NEVER. TS3 has enough visible similarities to TS2 that it may be possible to twist its arm a bit.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 16:58:11
Yes, I know this, but it is sometimes easier to do in SimPE because you don't need to load lots. I was just mentioning because that is the only time I've used SimPE since the Wrangler came out.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 19, 17:02:58
You don't need to load lots either - just use a teleporter to get them in one at a time and make them selectable.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 17:06:46
That involves loading the game.  8) I only used it when I had 20+ sims to use. That and I was not actually planning on playing the game. I just wanted to edit them. =p


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 November 19, 17:07:23
Of course, the Make Selectable feature uber-borks the resulting instance, so you have to zap them off again afterwards. Unless you have AWESOME selectable.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 17:12:16
Awesome Selectable?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 19, 17:17:40
There is nothing wrong with the way my teleporter makes sims selectable.  Even if they are an NPC or a shop assistant they can go on doing their jobs!


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 17:23:16
I think he may have been referring to the boolprop Make Selectable.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Khan of Wyrms on 2008 November 19, 17:37:28
Awesome Selectable?

FFS L&P?

There is nothing wrong with the way my teleporter makes sims selectable.  Even if they are an NPC or a shop assistant they can go on doing their jobs!

Speaking of teleporters, ever considered adding a visual window to yours like the Paladin's?  Some of us have a lot of characters.  A Frankenversion, maybe?  Add an "Open Visual Dialog' option to the menu or something, perhaps?  Just a suggestion.  Maybe you are glad you thought of it?

While I have your attention, can I gripe about the cat?  I like cats, cats are great.  Don't think I am ungrateful, because I am not, but every farking community lot has to have a farking cat statue in the corner!  Now what would be really awesome, I think, is a teleporter cloned from a lighted dance floor tile or some such thing and that also could be made transparent/invisible.  That would be super cool.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 19, 18:01:55
To all owners of legit copies of the game
an Arr'd version of the stuff pack has been detected. To confirm its validity, we request your help. We need the folloing information:
  • is it really named Sims2EP9 in the executable and the disc label?
  • what are the MD5 hashes, or at least the file sizes, of the game executable and the executables in the root of the disc?
Thank you for your help
the pirates in #grah


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 19, 18:22:05
Speaking of teleporters, ever considered adding a visual window to yours like the Paladin's? 

I wished I had thought of it when I saw his, but since he has worked hard to make his different from mine in some way, it would seem incredibly oafish to just go and nick his idea like that.  Much as I would love to, it just doesn't seem good manners.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Khan of Wyrms on 2008 November 19, 18:50:07
Speaking of teleporters, ever considered adding a visual window to yours like the Paladin's?

I wished I had thought of it when I saw his, but since he has worked hard to make his different from mine in some way, it would seem incredibly oafish to just go and nick his idea like that.  Much as I would love to, it just doesn't seem good manners.

That just doesn't make any sense.  It is called, "I'm glad I thought of that!"  Not nicking.  It might be nicking if you extracted his mod and just copy/pasted it.  Otherwise it is just an idea, and all of civilization is built upon the ideas that came before.  You think perhaps he made a teleporter because he saw yours?  Maybe he saw yours and thought he had a good idea?  That is normal.  If you have such scruples, then you could always collaborate, or just give credit where you think it is due.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: jolrei on 2008 November 19, 18:56:53
Look at it as a sort of flattery or a compliment - "look how good your idea was".  Provide a credit to Paladin for the idea and off you go.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 19:03:11
Or you can ask if you can steal. =p

I haven't used his, does it function like a phone or something?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Lerf on 2008 November 19, 19:28:37
Or you can ask if you can steal. =p

I haven't used his, does it function like a phone or something?
Yeah, except that it divides the Sims up into categories--townies, downtownies, jocks, techies, etc. which drives me nuts.  I never have any idea what group most NPCs belong to. 

I dunno, Inge, talk to James.  Maybe you two can do a collaboration.  You can add the stuff your teleporter does to the way his works.....


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Alex on 2008 November 19, 19:40:23
To all owners of legit copies of the game
an Arr'd version of the stuff pack has been detected. To confirm its validity, we request your help. We need the folloing information:
  • is it really named Sims2EP9 in the executable and the disc label?
  • what are the MD5 hashes, or at least the file sizes, of the game executable and the executables in the root of the disc?
Thank you for your help
the pirates in #grah
Isn't H&M or something EP9? I remember one of them being EP13, so it would make sense that SPs count as EPs internally. It's been awhile and I haven't installed the game at all on my now-on-life-support system as I can never play it on this thing again.

Some people were also reporting that they need to use the AL disc to play the game. Hm...


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 19, 19:51:02
To all owners of legit copies of the game
an Arr'd version of the stuff pack has been detected. To confirm its validity, we request your help. We need the folloing information:
  • is it really named Sims2EP9 in the executable and the disc label?
  • what are the MD5 hashes, or at least the file sizes, of the game executable and the executables in the root of the disc?
Thank you for your help
the pirates in #grah
Isn't H&M or something EP9? I remember one of them being EP13, so it would make sense that SPs count as EPs internally. It's been awhile and I haven't installed the game at all on my now-on-life-support system as I can never play it on this thing again.

Some people were also reporting that they need to use the AL disc to play the game. Hm...
there is a difference between game versions, which counts EPs, SPs and the base game with one single number, and EP/SP versions. Basically, it goes as following:
EP1: Uni
EP2: NL
EP3: OfB
SP1: FFS
SP2: GLS
EP4: Pets
EP5: Sns
SP4: CS
SP5: H&M
EP6: BV
SP6: TSS
EP7: FT
SP7: K&B
SP8: Ikea
EP8: AL
EP(?)9: MGS


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 19, 20:59:17
is is referred to sp9. i have game but not installing until no cd is avalable


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 21:05:54
*Jelenedra wishes that EA would catch a clue and stop including stupid SecuROM.

I didn't MIND paying for the Sims... but now I won't. Even though that this is perhaps the most interesting SP. I would've paid for Teen Style too, just because well-made teen clothes are hard to find.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 November 19, 21:32:34
H&M and Ikea were good. K&B was a waste of bytes. I don't have the others, they never appealed to me.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 19, 21:35:41
H&M and Ikea were good. K&B was a waste of bytes. I don't have the others, they never appealed to me.
are you kidding, K&B is probably the only half-decent one.

anyway, I am stuck with SuckURom now and the game failed to run properly.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Crash on 2008 November 19, 22:07:46
I do want to arrquire this, but I am worrying about having to run the game from the M&G disc - I have the hacked AL .exe to get rid of the portrait regeneration, and I have no clue if that would be transferable to a M&G .exe.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: kazebird on 2008 November 19, 22:16:59
I do want to arrquire this, but I am worrying about having to run the game from the M&G disc - I have the hacked AL .exe to get rid of the portrait regeneration, and I have no clue if that would be transferable to a M&G .exe.
It is possible they fixed that in this pack, hence using that disk.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Crash on 2008 November 19, 22:19:19
I do want to arrquire this, but I am worrying about having to run the game from the M&G disc - I have the hacked AL .exe to get rid of the portrait regeneration, and I have no clue if that would be transferable to a M&G .exe.
It is possible they fixed that in this pack, hence using that disk.
If they have, I solemnly swear I will eat my pirate hat.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 November 19, 22:28:34
H&M and Ikea were good. K&B was a waste of bytes. I don't have the others, they never appealed to me.
are you kidding, K&B is probably the only half-decent one.

anyway, I am stuck with SuckURom now and the game failed to run properly.

I liked getting new kitchen and bath appliances, as those were areas that needed more items. The only true waste of space stuff pack I can think of is FFS. I still don't have that one. I loved the H&M pack. I wished they had done more with the clothes in the Celebration pack.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: rhodaloo on 2008 November 19, 23:49:14
Ok, I don't want to use the launcher for this stuff pack.  I tried to use SP9 to replace launcher in target under properties but that didn't work.  Any suggestions?

ETA:  Nevermind.  It's amazing what one can discover when one reads the "Read Me".   :-[


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: jolrei on 2008 November 20, 00:17:45
Ok, I don't want to use the launcher for this stuff pack.  I tried to use SP9 to replace launcher in target under properties but that didn't work.  Any suggestions?

ETA:  Nevermind.  It's amazing what one can discover when one reads the "Read Me".   :-[

So your M&G installed and loaded with AL installed as well?  There's a whole new thread that alleges that M&G is incompatible with AL.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: mitchellcjs on 2008 November 20, 01:57:27
IF it is, then my computer is magic.  I'm playing with MG right now.  The only issue I've seen so far is the new windowseat windows don't have cat slots,  the cat slots don't work, or I have an AL hack that's interfering with the cat slots.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 November 20, 03:27:44
is is referred to sp9. i have game but not installing until no cd is avalable

I have it installed (at least... temporarily) It is called EP9 and the file size of the exe is 23,076.

Edited to add: and those other things you wanted to know FatD? Explain what they are and where to find them and I'll go look.
Quote
To all owners of legit copies of the game
an Arr'd version of the stuff pack has been detected. To confirm its validity, we request your help. We need the folloing information:

    * is it really named Sims2EP9 in the executable and the disc label?
    * what are the MD5 hashes, or at least the file sizes, of the game executable and the executables in the root of the disc?

Thank you for your help
the pirates in #grah


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: rhodaloo on 2008 November 20, 03:47:02
Ok, I don't want to use the launcher for this stuff pack.  I tried to use SP9 to replace launcher in target under properties but that didn't work.  Any suggestions?

ETA:  Nevermind.  It's amazing what one can discover when one reads the "Read Me".   :-[

So your M&G installed and loaded with AL installed as well?  There's a whole new thread that alleges that M&G is incompatible with AL.

I didn't have any problems installing it.  It appeared to be working fine but I didn't do more than check the hair styles, and objects.  I did notice that the "stuttering" music was back when I started the game plus it appeared to load more slowly.  I really need new processors and bigger memory sticks.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Lerf on 2008 November 20, 06:03:01
Apparently the first customer support guy I got was an idiot and simply said AL was incompatible with MG.  Actually it's incompatible on some systems.  Mine included.

Other information appears to point a finger at SecureRom.  This does not surprise me in the slightest.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Bruce Banner on 2008 November 20, 08:52:14
Apparently the first customer support guy I got was an idiot and simply said AL was incompatible with MG.  Actually it's incompatible on some systems.  Mine included.

Other information appears to point a finger at SecureRom.  This does not surprise me in the slightest.

That just shows you that either a) The tech support guy was an unintelligent knob who shouldn't be doing tech support for anything and you probably disturbed him while he was having his sandwich so he said any old shit  :P , b) fortunately for him his 'any old shit ' was right and EA have made an unholy fuck up of this pack as many of us fear or c) both of the above . I'd say C personally  :D


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Gwill on 2008 November 20, 12:51:09
Poor tech support guy!
He probably has no training, has only ever played a fraction of the games he has to run support for, and the game in question was just released.  He probably hasn't had a chance to even look at it yet, and on the phone you have to give instant answers.  Customers don't want to hear "I don't know", they even get aggressive at "I'm not sure", so he probably repeated the only rumours he'd heard about the game.
Seriously.  If they knew this was going to be a problem, they wouldn't have released it like that, and you never catch real problems until real people start playing.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Bruce Banner on 2008 November 20, 13:40:14
 :-\ I suppose you're right . It's not his fault he's an untrained chimp  :P Games companies though , especially ultra-rich games companies like EA , shoud have dedicated games testers and support dedicated to each individual game . And these people should spend hour upon hour every day doing these tasks so any major problems would be inevitably picked up before release . Of course though , they wouldn't do that because it would mean they'd have to make less exorbitant profit and those greedy rich corporate bastards at the top might have to go from having 4 Bentleys to 3  :P So yeah Gwill , you're right . It isn't the tech guys fault really , it's those selfish greedy shitholes at the top who're to blame  :)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: IgnorantBliss on 2008 November 20, 17:36:14
I have AL with the second patch installed, and had no problems installing M&G.

And, on my computer at least, it's called EP9.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 20, 17:37:34
Did you keep the AL no-CD exe in while you installed M&G?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: IgnorantBliss on 2008 November 20, 17:42:07
I don't use a no-CD exe, since, so far, Securom hasn't caused any noticeable problems for me.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: burnished_dragon on 2008 November 20, 18:51:22
Has anyone found a good arrrg copy yet? Almost sounds like I may have to pay for this last package of stuff.  :'(


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: hobbitgrl on 2008 November 20, 19:24:38
I am hoping for a NO CD soon, I really am looking forward to this one.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: ReRybka on 2008 November 20, 20:17:44
Has anyone found a good arrrg copy yet? Almost sounds like I may have to pay for this last package of stuff.  :'(

Mininova lists a torrent sharing a copy in Chinese/Korean/English that installs fine (although if you have the latest version of Daemon you'll need the latest version of YASU rather than the one included in the torrent). Since it plays from the M&G exe, not AL, I haven't dared playtest it yet, though, for fear of SecuRom infestation.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Alex on 2008 November 20, 21:24:09
Hm, this is an interesting new wall covering...

"Brickrolled
This brick is never gonna let you down..."


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: toad on 2008 November 20, 21:30:27
Heh.  I actually laughed.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: HarleyBarbie on 2008 November 21, 00:58:19
The New No CD EXE for MG is out!


http://gamecopyworld.com/

HarleyBarbie;]


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 November 21, 01:09:37
This doesn't appear to be stripped of SecuROM. Notice the fiddling required.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Crash on 2008 November 21, 01:10:21
Can someone report what happens to the portrait regeneration with M&G - I don't want my game to start crashing again - and if it's absolutely certain the game has to run from the M&G .exe.

Also, I've seen people complaining on the sims2community forum that it uninstalls sims2 store items, can anyone verify it that is true or not?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 November 21, 01:23:43
Can someone report what happens to the portrait regeneration with M&G - I don't want my game to start crashing again - and if it's absolutely certain the game has to run from the M&G .exe.

Also, I've seen people complaining on the sims2community forum that it uninstalls sims2 store items, can anyone verify it that is true or not?

I don't know about the Sims2 Store stuff, since I don't have any, but portraits still regenerate, and yes, you have to run from the M&G disk. I don't have the patch thingy to try to stop portraits from regenerating, since that wasn't an issue for me.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Crash on 2008 November 21, 01:27:17
I don't know about the Sims2 Store stuff, since I don't have any, but portraits still regenerate, and yes, you have to run from the M&G disk. I don't have the patch thingy to try to stop portraits from regenerating, since that wasn't an issue for me.
Well, then my having M&G purely rests in the hand of someone more awesome than me showing mercy and hacking that .exe.  ;)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Lerf on 2008 November 21, 05:14:31
The problem turns out to be a weirdness in the location of where I had installed AL.  The full explanation is in the topic I started.  SuckyROM may be a problem, but it wasn't mine.

OTOH, if the tech support people had actually asked a few questions about my installation the problem might have been solved faster and less painfully.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 November 21, 05:16:28
The New No CD EXE for MG is out!


http://gamecopyworld.com/

HarleyBarbie;]

HarleyBarbie I looked at game copy world but dont see it. Can you post a direct link to the page its on?

Oh nevermind i found it. It's not a fixed exe though its a No-DVD/Fixed Image file requiring you to mount the image in Daemon tools then modifying your registry in
RegEdit from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Current ControlSet\Services\cdrom\Enum and change the SCSI\CdRom... data into IDE\CdRom...

Im not gonna do it. I'll wait till theres a NO CD exe.



Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: keirra on 2008 November 21, 08:11:23
Witchboy, witch (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,13669.msg390493.html#msg390493) is looking for you.  :D


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 21, 09:17:53
Those "sweeping stairs" are true fail.  I assumed from the picture that they would come in a left and right version which you could put together to make the wide one in the pictures, if you had room.   But no, it is one staircase, and you cannot take off the middle rail!!!   All the other staircases let you take the rails off  >:(


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: witch on 2008 November 21, 10:00:51
Ah ha! Another sighting of the minyun. Naughty minyun, where have you been?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: caitlyn on 2008 November 21, 10:35:02
Those "sweeping stairs" are true fail.  I assumed from the picture that they would come in a left and right version which you could put together to make the wide one in the pictures, if you had room.   But no, it is one staircase, and you cannot take off the middle rail!!!   All the other staircases let you take the rails off  >:(

Inge - I am a fan of the hiders on your site and have often wondered if there was a way to hide the stairs.

As for M&G, I purchased it the day it came out and decided to install it on a laptop that was getting a reformat anyway (so I could suffer through securom just to test the SP).  After installation, I got a message saying that I have uninstalled Apartment Life and if I continue all Apartments will be turned into normal houses and the families returned to the Sim Bin.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Inge on 2008 November 21, 10:39:38
Oddly enough Peter just told me SimPE does the same (ie regards AL as having been uninstalled after telling it about M&G)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Alex on 2008 November 21, 16:33:06
Oddly enough Peter just told me SimPE does the same (ie regards AL as having been uninstalled after telling it about M&G)
So EAxis have made their most incompentent error yet?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: sintrinity on 2008 November 21, 17:12:39
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4524177/The.Sims.2.Mansion.Garden.Stuff-RELOADED

but it is not being seeded right now...


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 21, 17:53:27
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4524177/The.Sims.2.Mansion.Garden.Stuff-RELOADED

but it is not being seeded right now...
for now, you can substitute filehosterness:
http://www.irfree.com/2008/11/21/the-sims-2-mansion-garden-stuff-reloaded/


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 21, 18:06:15
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4524177/The.Sims.2.Mansion.Garden.Stuff-RELOADED

but it is not being seeded right now...
for now, you can substitute filehosterness:
http://www.irfree.com/2008/11/21/the-sims-2-mansion-garden-stuff-reloaded/

i have game just need the no cd crack which is included in this anyone want to just share that with the rest of us. 


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 21, 18:07:38
currently uploading


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 21, 18:15:39
fat d

thank you so much i know many in the sims community who are waiting for the no cd to install the game.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 21, 18:21:23
and what exactly does it mean seeded?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 21, 18:25:25
and what exactly does it mean seeded?
seeded means that there are sources to download from, other users who already have the file and let you download from their computer.
and please do not spread the link too fast, I still need to register a collector's account. Without one, only 10 downloads will be possible, which shall go to the community of awesome. Once I have found out how to get a collector's account and it is registered, feel free to share.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 21, 18:28:02
wont share your link but i will send it to others i know from n99 who are know are waiitng to install.  but i will let others know when you say it is ok about your link.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 21, 18:31:51
wont share your link but i will send it to others i know from n99 who are know are waiitng to install.  but i will let others know when you say it is ok about your link.
It already came with the ability to create a collector's account, so here you go, and by all means, spread the news - everyone shall enjoy this.
http://rapidshare.com/files/166037112/Sims2EP9.exe


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 21, 18:42:59
thank you thank you thank you  i will spread the word.  hopefully they will get it uploaded to gamecopyworld soon.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Skye on 2008 November 21, 18:57:14
Is this the download with the 'securom free' option?  A no cd-crack, or is this just the download for free? (if so on the latter, thanks much!)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 21, 19:01:54
wonder why this exe is 44megs when original is only 22 megs.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 21, 19:04:19
No-CD only, and the bloatation has been since the introduction of SecuRom.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: gypsylady on 2008 November 21, 19:27:26
I do want to arrquire this, but I am worrying about having to run the game from the M&G disc - I have the hacked AL .exe to get rid of the portrait regeneration, and I have no clue if that would be transferable to a M&G .exe.

Dizzy just updated this for M&G
http://www.nectere.net/smf/index.php?board=39.0


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: lauriej on 2008 November 21, 19:35:42
yahoo it works great thank you ever so much.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Crash on 2008 November 21, 19:51:06
I do want to arrquire this, but I am worrying about having to run the game from the M&G disc - I have the hacked AL .exe to get rid of the portrait regeneration, and I have no clue if that would be transferable to a M&G .exe.

Dizzy just updated this for M&G
http://www.nectere.net/smf/index.php?board=39.0
Oh thank you so much for telling us, that just made my day!  ;D


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: zceepy on 2008 November 21, 20:16:32
Just being over cautious here (also reading here fills time while I update my backup on my external drive) if I now install my arrquired version and use the very shiny no-dvd crack will M&G do anything silly like uninstall AL


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: jolrei on 2008 November 21, 20:26:12
Judging from previous posts, your mileage may vary.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 21, 20:57:28
Just being over cautious here (also reading here fills time while I update my backup on my external drive) if I now install my arrquired version and use the very shiny no-dvd crack will M&G do anything silly like uninstall AL
even if it does (it did not for me), fixing this should be a simple reghack


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: JediMaster on 2008 November 21, 22:06:09
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4524177/The.Sims.2.Mansion.Garden.Stuff-RELOADED

but it is not being seeded right now...
for now, you can substitute filehosterness:
http://www.irfree.com/2008/11/21/the-sims-2-mansion-garden-stuff-reloaded/

After downloading the files, I am getting a request to "Enter password for the encrypted file:  TS.2.MG.Stuff-RELOADED"
when I try to extract the files.  Do we need a password to extract the files?  I normally download the files via utorrent so I have not encountered this issue before. 


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Skye on 2008 November 21, 22:57:38
No-CD only, and the bloatation has been since the introduction of SecuRom.

Thank you so much! I have put it in, and am looking at my renters right now. I am hoping this sp won't interfere with AL. Will let you know if it does.

Thank you-so cool about this--thank you so much!!!!

UPDATE:  Ok, so the AL renters were able to rent a townhouse. Don Lothario is able to deco his house with some plants as well. There are some pretty awesome goodies in there too!

Thanks again, this is working for me! Now all I need is the compatible CEP and I'm back in business!
hugs,
Skye


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 21, 23:28:19
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4524177/The.Sims.2.Mansion.Garden.Stuff-RELOADED

but it is not being seeded right now...
for now, you can substitute filehosterness:
http://www.irfree.com/2008/11/21/the-sims-2-mansion-garden-stuff-reloaded/

After downloading the files, I am getting a request to "Enter password for the encrypted file:  TS.2.MG.Stuff-RELOADED"
when I try to extract the files.  Do we need a password to extract the files?  I normally download the files via utorrent so I have not encountered this issue before. 
look on the download page, then you will see the password.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: JediMaster on 2008 November 21, 23:43:11

look on the download page, then you will see the password.
[/quote]

My apologies, I overlooked it completely.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: raiderwife on 2008 November 22, 04:44:02
My apologies right away. Please do not yell at me...I am a dullard at times.  :(

Now, is there any reason that when I click on the download, I only get the option of run or save? Also once the file is done, I get a red x that appears and then nothing else. Would anyone mind telling me what I did wrong please?  :)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Bugger on 2008 November 22, 04:52:42
It sounds like you are trying to run the crack without having installed the game.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: raiderwife on 2008 November 22, 05:01:25
It sounds like you are trying to run the crack without having installed the game.

You are absolutely correct. Thanks for getting me on the right path.  :)


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Bugger on 2008 November 22, 05:12:46
You know what you're doing from here... as far as mounting, replacing and all that?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Fat D on 2008 November 22, 20:35:53
wont share your link but i will send it to others i know from n99 who are know are waiitng to install.  but i will let others know when you say it is ok about your link.
It already came with the ability to create a collector's account, so here you go, and by all means, spread the news - everyone shall enjoy this.
http://rapidshare.com/files/166037112/Sims2EP9.exe
now also available RAR'd
http://rapidshare.com/files/166374207/Sims2EP9.rar
as well as on GCW


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: burnished_dragon on 2008 November 23, 19:07:58
My apologies right away. Please do not yell at me...I am a dullard at times.  :(

Now, is there any reason that when I click on the download, I only get the option of run or save? Also once the file is done, I get a red x that appears and then nothing else. Would anyone mind telling me what I did wrong please?  :)

Well I am more than a dullard. I get the red x when double clicking after unraring what am I suppose to do with the exe file? I did try mounting to Daemon but it doesn't recognize the file, so then what am I doing wrong?


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: kutto on 2008 November 23, 19:11:23
You need an ISO for Daemon. The ISO is the disc. Install using the ISO, and replace the original .exe with this new No-DVD .exe. The last step is the most important. Also, don't destroy the original .exe in case of a patch.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: burnished_dragon on 2008 November 23, 19:36:18
You need an ISO for Daemon. The ISO is the disc. Install using the ISO, and replace the original .exe with this new No-DVD .exe. The last step is the most important. Also, don't destroy the original .exe in case of a patch.
Really I should be a blond didn't quite get it is just the crack sorry  :-[  now, just have to wait to download the torrent - not too many seeding and lots of leaching.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: ScorpioMaurus on 2008 December 09, 16:01:58
Technically I think M&G is an EP eve though EAxis mistakingly named it an SP. I change the property value so it doesn't run from the launcher. If you look at it's exe it is Sims2EP9 not Sims2SP whatever. How can they come out with an EP and call it an SP or have an SP that's named as an EP? EAxis does nothing but confuse me and piss me off. ???


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Alex on 2008 December 09, 16:14:25
Technically I think M&G is an EP eve though EAxis mistakingly named it an SP. I change the property value so it doesn't run from the launcher. If you look at it's exe it is Sims2EP9 not Sims2SP whatever. How can they come out with an EP and call it an SP or have an SP that's named as an EP? EAxis does nothing but confuse me and piss me off. ???
Right. It's not like we've established the fact and the reasons why they may have possibly done this a few pages back, now is it?  :P


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: ScorpioMaurus on 2008 December 09, 17:18:45
That's funny I see nothing in this thread that explains why EAxis doesn't know is they are putting out an EP or an SP. My point is that they are the most full of shit company ever. How can you not even name your product properly? It's bad enough they had an SP that needed to be patched but to have an SP that is labeled as an EP.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: Marhis on 2008 December 09, 19:27:51
Well, if you take a look at BHAVs, some of them are named after the EP, like "EP6 - Is Lot a Vacation Lot?" or something similar. There are many of them which are labeled either "EP8", "EP13" or "EP16", etc.
I guess we players know how to properly call EPs and SPs way better than EA programmers themselves.


Title: Re: Look out!!! M&G runs from its own disk, not latest EP.
Post by: seelindarun on 2008 December 09, 20:05:27
I think the EP/SP might have been decided later depending on how they wanted to market it.  If they had sold M&G as an EP, we would have all been screeching bloody murder.  There's just not enough of a feature set there: quarter tile placement and a few new animations.  It does sort of look like they intended something more than an SP, and stopped short.  Frankly, they did something smart for once selling it as a turbo-SP, rather than cheating us of a proper EP.