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Title: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 04, 22:13:56
This hack will stop non-controllable sims appearing on community lots and doing walkbys in work clothes.
Only normal,formal,toga or secret society clothes are used.

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Install all the packages into the downloads directory.

Created using SimPE QA version 49o by Quaxi
BHAV editor by PLJones
Objects listing with disasm2_22e by dizzy2

This hack is for nightlife only
DO NOT USE IN PETS AND/OR SEASONS.

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The clothing event fix is needed for a bug in maxis coding

This hack has a habit of reseting the game. It is advisable to make sure all cars are at home, and sims are idle (preferable in the morning) before installing this hack.

v5 (02 Dec 2005)
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Added check for toga parties.

V4 (21 Oct 2005)
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Added check for secret society sims outfit.
fixed bug in version 2&3


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: dizzy on 2005 November 05, 10:40:10
The clothing event fix is needed for a bug in maxis coding

 :o A bug in a global tree?

/me checks this out...

Code:
E: Turn On/Off - Cache Personal Traits(Me); true: true, false: error

What could possibly go wrong?  ::) :P


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 05, 12:19:38
Note the reference to me when everything else is referenced by stack object

99.99% of the time they are the same thing. But not always.

EDIT: They could be different sims and the code would still work. Although i doubt the turn on/off system would work as intended.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2005 November 06, 19:50:55
I was very excited to see this; however, I am experiencing problems.  Using this hack with debug mode enabled, I keep getting errors about the Controller - CLP - Community Lot - Populator.  It will only go away if I click Delete.  Cancel and Reset have no effect.  I have attached two separate logs that I get when this happens.  One says "the object referred to must be a person," and the other says "Error: Trying to route while out of world."

EDIT:  Attachments no longer needed.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: dizzy on 2005 November 06, 20:45:48
Do you have "CBOY_Clothing_event_fix" installed? I looked and noticed that the stack object in the previous tree was "N001_User00387 - Gwen" and the Me object was the controller (not a person).


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2005 November 06, 20:53:41
I just installed it, and I still got errors.  I didn't have the clothing event fix installed for the first set of errors, but I just installed it last night and played downtown wtih it.  Here is the latest log I have, this one in Strangetown.  The other one was in Pleasantview, not that that really matters, I don't think.  It looks the same as the others to me, but I thought I'd include it just in case something is different with the clothing event fix installed.

EDIT:  Removed attachments no longer needed.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 06, 21:22:03
With the clothing event fix installed, you should not get this error, and the errorlog refers to the origonal code.
What other hacks do you have installed?


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2005 November 07, 02:43:19
My bad, I thought I had installed the clothing fix but I had not.  I must have forgotten to download it at the same time I downloaded the other.  I have since done so and loaded up a community lot with no problems at all.  Sorry about that.  :-[


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jennydeenyc on 2005 November 08, 18:35:43
I just installed these 2 files and when I re-loaded the game, a few weird things happened...

1) My famiy's daughter went from normal clothes (she had just had a bath before I saved & quit) to pajamas.
2) The bedding on the master bedroom double bed changed from a custom pattern to a Maxis pattern.
3) The husband (who was sleeping in the double bed upon save & quit) was out of bed and had the autonomous action to "Leave", which was uncancellable.

Because of issue #3, I quit without saving and disabled the clothing hacks, which put everything back to normal. Hope this information is helpful!


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 08, 20:19:11
Because if the reset issue, sims will not be doing what they were doing when you left the game.

1) I have not seen.
2) This I have seen happen with early recolours.
3) I expect the "leave" interaction would have cancelled itself out anyway, unless the sim does not live on the lot.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jennydeenyc on 2005 November 09, 08:21:06
Actually, the first time I loaded the family after installing the clothing hacks, the husband actually left the lot and his picture disappeared from the family bar on the left of the interface. Naturally I didn't save and quit to the neighborhood. Re-entering the lot, he again had the Leave action active, and even when I would cancel it it immediately re-appeared and he would start walking off the lot again, which is why I uninstalled the hacks before continuing to play the family.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 09, 08:47:46
Ok. I would like to get to the bottom of that one.

Do you have the nightlife patch installed?
What other hacks do you have?


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: Motoki on 2005 November 09, 13:01:16
The leave interaction shouldn't cause any major problems. It acts like just you turned move objects on and deleted the sim. If you save and exit, then go back into the lot the sim will return. The game always checks to see if all the sims that are supposed to be on the lot are when the game loads and if they aren't it dumps them back by the mailbox.

I had one of my sims leave, but when I saved and exited and return he was right there by the mailbox. Even if the sim didn't return for some reason, in the absolute worst case scenario you can always teleport him back via the mailbox in debug mode or various hacks like Inge's teleport shrub or the Insimenator.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jennydeenyc on 2005 November 09, 17:00:10
I have the NL patch installed and the following hacks:

Monique's non-global hacked PCs
Phone Call - Auto Yak Yak
Eat More Talk Less
Slobs Be Slobs (though my sims with 2 neat points still clear dishes!)
College Adjuster
No Kids In Double Beds
Food Already Available
No Community Plate Clearing
Congrats Fix
No Autonomous Hang Out
No Autonomous Napping
School Bus - Bring Friend Dialog
Teasing Fix
No Autonomy Read To
No Force Watch Fight
Paintings Stay Viewable
Phone - Line Controller (NL testing edition)
Smart Serve 2g
Formal Wedding without default clothes


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: radiophonic on 2005 November 09, 20:39:52
With the clothing event fix installed, you should not get this error, and the errorlog refers to the origonal code.
What other hacks do you have installed?

A-ha! So THAT was causing the "Object referred to must be a person" problem.

FYI crammyboy : I noticed this only happened to me when there was a pregnant sim on the community lot.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jennydeenyc on 2005 November 16, 01:35:04
Any thoughts on what might be causing that Leave interaction yet? I'd really like to use this hack, as one of my sim teens just went out for her first date in her fast food uniform! Sexy! :o


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 16, 11:27:51
I am not sure why the leave interaction happens, because it is not anywhere in the code.

As Motoki stated, the interaction should not cause any major problems if you allow it to happen, the sim will just re-appear on the lot the next time the lot is started.
You should make backups first though.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jennydeenyc on 2005 November 16, 15:50:17
What's the best way for backing up? SimPE, or just copy the junk in the neighborhood folder to somewhere else on the hard drive?


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 16, 16:18:44
Just copy the neighbourhood folder to anywhere outside of the sims 2 folder. Don't make a copy inside this folder, it will create confusion in the game.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: witch on 2005 November 20, 21:10:40
Hey crammyboy, I'm using * CBOY_NormalClothes dated 21/10/05
I had issues trying to load downtown lots with debug mode on. Same 'populator' and 'out of this world' type errors. When I'd clicked reset about 50 times, I tried delete. Then the lot just hung. I happened to read Rainbow's comments here and wondered if this was my problem.

Does the latest version: * CBOY_NormalClothes_v4.zip fix this issue?


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: Athena on 2005 November 20, 22:25:16
CBOY_Clothing_event_fix.zip will fix it.  I'd also use Version 4, too.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jase on 2005 November 21, 01:17:44
Note the reference to me when everything else is referenced by stack object

99.99% of the time they are the same thing. But not always.

EDIT: They could be different sims and the code would still work. Although i doubt the turn on/off system would work as intended.
Yeah, I hit this one with InTeen and ended up plugging this bug there.  In my case, Me was referencing the pregnancy controller - blah.  I filed a report with Maxis several weeks ago, and had hoped it would make the NL patch - but alas.  Maybe next time.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: dusty on 2005 November 26, 22:24:59
Does this hack affect toga parties?  My sorority sims held a toga party and all their guests showed up in normal clothes, although the girls who lived on the lot changed.  Not a big deal, but just checking if it could be because of this. 


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jrd on 2005 November 27, 00:05:36
This mod seems to cause sims in the secret society to wear their uniforms at all times, not just at community lots. In dorms or as visitors on residential lots, they should be wearing their normal outfit.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: crammyboy on 2005 November 27, 04:31:01
Does this hack affect toga parties?  My sorority sims held a toga party and all their guests showed up in normal clothes, although the girls who lived on the lot changed.  Not a big deal, but just checking if it could be because of this. 

It might do. I may have to put an extra check in for it.

This mod seems to cause sims in the secret society to wear their uniforms at all times, not just at community lots. In dorms or as visitors on residential lots, they should be wearing their normal outfit.

The decision to make the sims wear secret society clothing is done by the game.  This won't change sims into normal clothes if they are in secret society clothing already. It does NOT change sims into secret society clothing.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: Melanija on 2005 December 02, 19:37:06
Note the reference to me when everything else is referenced by stack object

99.99% of the time they are the same thing. But not always.

EDIT: They could be different sims and the code would still work. Although i doubt the turn on/off system would work as intended.
Yeah, I hit this one with InTeen and ended up plugging this bug there.  In my case, Me was referencing the pregnancy controller - blah.  I filed a report with Maxis several weeks ago, and had hoped it would make the NL patch - but alas.  Maybe next time.

Does this mean that if we already have the InTeen installed that we don't need the fix, or does the InTeen just fix the part that involves pregnancy?

Also, when it says that they'll only wear normal, formal or SS clothes, does that mean they won't wear athletic clothes if they're jogging by the house? Some of my sims would look awfully akward running by in mini skirts and high heels. ;) It's a great hack either way, though, I always hate the NPCs showing up to parties in work clothes and it'll go great with christianlov's new clothing rack at MTS2. :)


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 4
Post by: jase on 2005 December 02, 22:12:06
Does this mean that if we already have the InTeen installed that we don't need the fix, or does the InTeen just fix the part that involves pregnancy?
The fix is redundant for InTeen users but it shouldn't harm you to have it installed either.  Either way - it's all good - the fix is the same.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: Entgleichen on 2006 January 22, 18:31:02
Does this hack affect toga parties?  My sorority sims held a toga party and all their guests showed up in normal clothes, although the girls who lived on the lot changed.  Not a big deal, but just checking if it could be because of this. 

I've had the same experience. Furthermore I realized that secret society members appear in their uniform at community lots and instantly change into normal, but I am not sure if this is caused by this hack.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: t r a c y on 2006 March 07, 23:24:53
i hope you will be able to update this hack for ofb, it's one of my few can't-do-withouts.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: Qosmic on 2006 March 12, 21:14:14
Just to make sure before installing: the normal clothes one is for all versions, right? It's the clothing event thingy that is only for NL? I have just the base game installed at the moment.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: C.S. on 2006 March 14, 09:52:20
Er, but it says right up there that "This hack is for nightlife only". The 'clothing event fix' is supposed to be used in conjunction with 'normalclothes', otherwise, there might be a problem with community lots not loading (see posts #3 to #7), so I'm assuming both are for NL only :P.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: Qosmic on 2006 March 14, 10:28:11
It does, but it wasn't self evident which one it applied to.


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: C.S. on 2006 March 14, 10:32:37
I get that, but because some of his other mods will say things like "This has only been tested with nightlife & OFB, though it may work with UNI (Post patch)", "For Nightlife & OFB" etc, that's why I'll go with only whatever EP that was mentioned. :)


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: Qosmic on 2006 March 17, 15:04:44
I hear you, but sometimes I get deep into wishful thinking. ;) After some career hopping, it feels like none of my townies ever use their everyday clothes anymore and I'd very much enjoy having them dressed normally again. I have both uni and NL, but I felt nostaligic and wanted to play with just the base game for a while. :)


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: Ailias on 2006 April 29, 08:41:06
Be aware! This hack seems to conflict with NOReassign hack in OFB


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: syberspunk on 2006 April 29, 18:21:02
Be aware! This hack seems to conflict with NOReassign hack in OFB

I have both the noreassign and the normal clothes mod, and I ran the scanning tools on them and did not find a conflict. Could you be more specific in how you think they are conflicting?

Ste

PS. I even went so far as to open the two packages up in SimPE and did not see any immediate conflicts. They do not mod anything remotely similar, and as far as I can tell, one does not call the other or vice versa. So, I see no way that these two can conflict. Just because you have a problem, and then you remove one hack, and the problem goes away, this is not conclusive evidence that the two mods conflict. You would have to do a more thorough test to be absolutely certain that two mods conflict.  :-\


Title: Re: Sims wear normal clothing on community lots (No work clothes) Version 5
Post by: Bronxboy on 2008 September 25, 03:59:33
Does anyone know if this mod will ever be updated...? :( I really hate non-controllable Sims showing up for parties in their lab coats and burger flipping gear. If not this hack, is ther a similar one available for Apartment Life?