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Title: I eat paste.
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 19, 17:40:00
Was bored the other day so I decided to try out a tutorial on mod the sims and make my sim kids a new custom snack - a jar of paste.
I ended up cloning the single serving of chinese takeout because the animations worked best with my mesh.

Sim kids love the paste, but it's going straight to their hips.

What values do I need to change to make paste less fattening?  A BCON, BHAV?

Also, the paste has a custom utensil (paste top) that's currently in its own file.  Can I just glomp the two objects together in one package, or is it best to leave them separate?

I can attach the file(s) if you need to look at them.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 19, 18:23:03
LOL don't clone the chinese food-that always causes your sims to lose fitness, even if a serving doesn't fill their hunger bar!


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: maxon on 2008 August 19, 19:23:43
I think I need an American-English translation here.  Jar of paste?  Over here you'd rub it on your teeth or stick up wallpaper with it.


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: jsalemi on 2008 August 19, 19:26:30
Also a type of glue for kids here in the US, common in pre-schools and elementary schools. Comes in a jar with a brush built into the lid.

http://www.elmers.com/kids/product_detail.asp?pCode=E505A

It is (or used to be) based on corn starch, so it was quite edible, and somewhat tasty.  :)


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: nekonoai on 2008 August 19, 20:01:23
I enjoyed the smell of it, but I never ate it, unlike other members of my preschool class. :D


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 19, 20:07:03
I thought it was always the weird kids that ate the paste. Like Ralph on The Simpsons.


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 19, 20:13:29
It was. Jsalemi must have been one of the weird kids.


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: jsalemi on 2008 August 19, 21:14:10
My secret is out! :)


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: maxon on 2008 August 19, 21:34:53
Thanks for that.  Weird kids, indeed.   :D


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: Simsample on 2008 August 19, 23:14:26
This is what I know as paste:
http://www.britishfooddirect.com/images/5000232825070_200.jpg
However it would normally be eaten on toast or in a sandwich, not straight from the jar...


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 19, 23:44:06
jsalemi nailed it, right down to the picture I based my textures on.  :D

(http://i35.tinypic.com/efqigx.png)

Mmmmm, paste....


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: Assmitten on 2008 August 19, 23:49:11
Jesus god, that's a fucking hilarious pic. He should be sniffing glue, though, not eating paste.

My paste usage was always monitored.  :'( I can conjure up the smell right now and it makes my mouth water.


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 19, 23:58:07
I always thought Dustin was a candidate for the short bus...


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 20, 00:19:39
Jesus god, that's a fucking hilarious pic. He should be sniffing glue, though, not eating paste.

My paste usage was always monitored.  :'( I can conjure up the smell right now and it makes my mouth water.

You were one of the weird kids too? I never would have guessed.  :D


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: maxon on 2008 August 20, 00:50:57
This is what I know as paste:
http://www.britishfooddirect.com/images/5000232825070_200.jpg
However it would normally be eaten on toast or in a sandwich, not straight from the jar...

I stick to what I originally said; I'd rather stick up wallpaper with that than eat it.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Elvie on 2008 August 20, 06:05:29
Will a Sim toddler or child eat pet food if hungry enough?
(I confess to eating dog food a few times as a kid, but never paste)


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: HeyYeah on 2008 August 20, 06:30:17
Toddlers love to eat the pet food. I have to keep the toddlers on a separate floor so they can't get to it. I don't recall if it has to do if they are hungry or not. I seem to recall a well cared for toddler that always wanted to head straight for the pet food dish.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: sloppyhousewife on 2008 August 20, 07:32:52
Toddlers love to eat the pet food. I have to keep the toddlers on a separate floor so they can't get to it. I don't recall if it has to do if they are hungry or not. I seem to recall a well cared for toddler that always wanted to head straight for the pet food dish.
Hm...  that makes me wonder if placing the automatic feeder from Pet Stories in the toddler facilities would spare me to feed them... I must try this as soon as I get home.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 20, 08:48:54
Sloppyhousewife: It does, but it has poor hunger satisfaction value, probably because they mostly throw it in the air rather than eating it. The Baby Controller automatically uses it as a fallback mode if there are no bottles and the toddler has gotten REALLY hungry! I remember when Ness thought of that idea (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,6014.0.html). If the hunger value weren't so crap, I would make it the DEFAULT position!

Also, gimme that edible paste. AWESOMELAND NEEDS IT!


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Assmitten on 2008 August 20, 15:42:10
Also, gimme that edible paste. AWESOMELAND NEEDS IT!

Ooh, ooh, I can reenact scenes from my childhood.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 August 20, 15:51:35
Toddlers also eat sand on beach lots. I assume the hunger value on that is crap as well?


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Elvie on 2008 August 21, 05:41:07
As for the original question re: non-fattening paste cloned from Chinese food:

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=84980

I've used this mod, and it works great.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Dea on 2008 August 21, 05:47:44
Aren't you supposed to flip images so that they look right on objects.


Title: Re: Is paste supposed to be fattening?
Post by: kiki on 2008 August 21, 07:06:48
jsalemi nailed it, right down to the picture I based my textures on.  :D

(http://i35.tinypic.com/efqigx.png)

Mmmmm, paste....

...

oh my god that is win. you sir, just won the intarwebz.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 21, 13:14:00
Thanks for that link, Elvie. It helps alot.

Dea, the label may look a little weird because it's in Simlish, not English.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/14mwa3n.png)

To everyone else:
Wow, I made this for my own twisted amusement. I didn't think anyone else would want it.  :D

Unfortunately, edible paste is not yet safe for public consumption.

The tutorial I used didn't cover cloning anything other than cake and getting this to work required some improvised BHAV editing. I'm a total n00b at that kind of stuff. There are still many problems I have to work out.

For example, when I repositioned the paste top mesh to work with the teen/adult animations, I borked it for the kids. Now every time Alex Goth goes to take a bite of paste, he sticks himself in the eye with the brush.  :'(

I suspect kids and adults are going to need separate utensil meshes, but right now I have no idea how to change the Eat Interaction to do this.

So, I still need to poke at this a bit, maybe read a few more tutorials, ask some questions here or at mts2. If I can't figure it out in a few days, I'll turn over what I have, mesh and code to el presidente or whoever wants to make an awesome version.

Other than echo's tutorial on bhavs, can anyone recommend any tutorials or posts that might be helpful? I can haz klew?


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 21, 13:24:07
Wow, I made this for my own twisted amusement. I didn't think anyone else would want it.  :D
Uh, twisted amusement is the entire point of MATY. You must not have paid much attention.

Unfortunately, edible paste is not yet safe for public consumption.
This is supposed to stop me, why? Let's not forget who you're talking to.

The tutorial I used didn't cover cloning anything other than cake and getting this to work required some improvised BHAV editing. I'm a total n00b at that kind of stuff. There are still many problems I have to work out.
Give it here. Now. If you want to see a tutorial of how to do something like that, you can take a look at it before-and-after.

For example, when I repositioned the paste top mesh to work with the teen/adult animations, I borked it for the kids. Now every time Alex Goth goes to take a bite of paste, he sticks himself in the eye with the brush.  :'(
I assume you made it out of the Chinese, yes?

I suspect kids and adults are going to need separate utensil meshes, but right now I have no idea how to change the Eat Interaction to do this.

So, I still need to poke at this a bit, maybe read a few more tutorials, ask some questions here or at mts2. If I can't figure it out in a few days, I'll turn over what I have, mesh and code to el presidente or whoever wants to make an awesome version.
Give it here or I'll throw you in a vat of boiling sharks.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Assmitten on 2008 August 21, 13:32:51
Hmm, looks like Mr. Palazzo has found himself in an interesting bargaining position.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 21, 13:45:26
Enrico, give it to Pescado. He fix it up good. How do I know this? He is MATY. ;)


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Assmitten on 2008 August 21, 14:38:36
He should hold out for something in return, though.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 21, 14:49:11
Like what?

To tell you the truth, I just want the paste for my sims :D


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 21, 14:50:45
He should hold out for something in return, though.
Hey, I made a very generous offer! Not being thrown in a vat of boiling sharks is a deal you can't refuse!


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Assmitten on 2008 August 21, 14:51:57
Hmm, that is true. I was very pleased when you offered that to me once.  :D


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: YoungOldPrude on 2008 August 21, 17:01:01

Give it here or I'll throw you in a vat of boiling sharks.


What kind of sharks are we talking about? *Brightens hopefully,* Great Whites?

 :-\*Reconsiders: Wait a minute; I don't want Great White sharks to boil to death. Great Whites are too beautiful and innocent in the vile ways of humans to merit death by boiling.*


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Lorelei on 2008 August 22, 03:36:32
What kind of sharks are we talking about?

SHarks with FRICKEN LAZOR!!1 BEAMS ON THEIR HEADS, of course. :)


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 22, 06:28:09
Give it here or I'll throw you in a vat of boiling sharks.
0.o

What kind of sharks are we talking about? *Brightens hopefully,* Great Whites?

Pygmy sim-sharks work very well if you're short on space.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/an0xlc.jpg)


Since you asked so politely, here's the paste jar (with borked childrens' animation), paste top (cloned from fork) and the meshes & texture for the Paste Party Pack I was going to make from a cloned tray of chinese food but never got the chance.

May your sims choke on it  :D :-*


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: msalwaysright on 2008 August 22, 12:41:40
That's some of the winniest win that's been recently won.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: TimeStop on 2008 August 22, 20:15:40
The shark-vat has almost has much win as the edible paste. I'm loving the picture and excited for the glue. I was quite a fan of Rubber Glue in elementary school.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: msalwaysright on 2008 August 22, 21:39:10
DIE KITTEN DROWNER!!!!!!


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 23, 01:37:06
Okay, so reviewing the work so far, I think your first and most obvious mistake is choosing to clone the top from the fork, an unrelated object, instead of using the chopsticks that are paired with the Chinese box as your base item. This has introduced a great deal of unnecessary complication and outright gibberish into the code. I am fixing this now, and the animations now align for both. Huzzah. All hail me.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 23, 01:53:16
I used the fork because I couldn't find the chopsticks in simPE to clone at first.

Now that I've discovered (just an hour ago) that the advanced mode of the Object Workshop allows you to clone objects by GUID, I shan't be making that mistake in the future.

Huzzah  :D


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 23, 03:47:48
Ensmalled working version of paste now available here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/meta/mmmpaste.rar).


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 23, 04:42:07
Thank you.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: toad on 2008 August 23, 05:30:53
Shark vat.  DO WANT.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 August 23, 10:25:36
Yeah I want that shark vat!

What? I'll have the game in a few weeks :P


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: enrico palazzo on 2008 August 23, 16:09:29
The shark vat really doesn't do anything cool. It's just a silly prop/statue based off of an old Eaxis halloween decoration, placed on top of a bonfire to make it look nice and toasty.

It looks quite ridiculous in daylight.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/rtn9j6.jpg)

After I fix some holes in the mesh, I'll upload it for anyone who still wants it.  :P



Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: TimeStop on 2008 August 23, 17:04:05
hmmm... not nearly as entertaining in daylight, although it's the kind of object that would go great in a dark multi-levels-deep basement.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Liz on 2008 August 23, 18:12:20
It looks quite ridiculous in daylight.
Pfft, that matters not. Shark vat is winsauce.

After I fix some holes in the mesh, I'll upload it for anyone who still wants it.  :P
Yer damn right, you will! I mean, er, yes, please.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: purplebunny on 2008 August 24, 05:41:28
After I fix some holes in the mesh, I'll upload it for anyone who still wants it.  :P

My noir series NEEDS a vat of boiling sharks. I lust for it.


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: Ellatrue on 2008 August 27, 06:01:38
WANT!


Title: Re: I eat paste.
Post by: jolrei on 2008 August 29, 15:35:56
WANT!

Right.  My salvation depends upon having the shark vat.  The Dark-Pescado-Fortress-of-Ultimate-Peril-and-MarcoPolo would be enhanced by this.  Go forth and mod, O Enrico.