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Title: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: MistMeUK on 2006 March 07, 12:12:03
Before the Launch of OFB i heard that a sim can pass on a bussiness to someone eles such as thier children, But upto now I cant find an option for this.

I have a mother who own a toy shop and she has two children, both of whom are now adults, the both pretty much run the shop on their own now and I just want the mother to be able to pass on the bussiness and move out for a nice and early retirement.

So I ask, is thier any way to do this, and If thier isnt what will happen to the shop if I move her out, will the shop close.

I would try it but I just dont want to have to start the bussiness again with her daughter as it has alot of loyal customers which I dont want to loose.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Sagana on 2006 March 07, 12:18:42
I *think* (without having tried it) that you need to have the mother give the deed to the child she wants to be the business owner.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: MistMeUK on 2006 March 07, 12:20:06
Yeh but that just it,  I can't find an option for this.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Zaphod on 2006 March 07, 12:28:52
I think what they meant is that when they die, their family gets the business.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: MistMeUK on 2006 March 07, 12:31:34
O right, Well I dont really want to kill her, lol.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Sleepycat on 2006 March 07, 12:45:54
from the guide

1, put deed up for sale (not revelant so I won't type it all)

2, Sims can transfer deeds to adult or older sims in their household with the "Propose /Transfer Lot Ownership" interaction. no money changes hands.

3, The Owner can place the deed on the lot and they or any adult or older member of the household can use the Transfer ownership interaction on the deed itself. no money changes hands.

theres more but for what matters to you is the ownership/deed gets transfered with the business "as is" so you won't lose anything, not even customer loyalty or a puddle of piss on the floor - if there is one *laughs



Oh! cool, you can order an extra copy of the deed (if yours was lost or you just want an extra copy to hang up on the wall) via phone/cell phone's "Order Deed" interaction.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: MistMeUK on 2006 March 07, 12:47:56
Thanks for that, I will look at that now.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Sleepycat on 2006 March 07, 12:52:53
your welcome, I hope it actually works the way the guide says  ::)


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: MistMeUK on 2006 March 07, 13:26:10
Well I cant find any options like what your mentioned, I have nothing that mentions deeds at all, and nothing in her inventory either. This is a Home based bussiness though so maybe the deeds options only apply if you have bought a comunity lot.

Anyway I have moved the business owner out of the house and the business panel is still there like it was before with the same ratings and whatavyou so Im just goin to continue like this, Dont know who the business is officially owned by anymore though. LOL.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: jsalemi on 2006 March 07, 13:50:04
I'm still waiting for my copy from Amazon, but I got the Prima guide for it over the weekend, and it appears to me that only off-site/community lot businesses are owned via a deed.  Home-based businesses are treated as part of the household, just like the TV or beds, so whoever lives on the lot is by default the 'owners'.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Karen on 2006 March 07, 14:48:41
What happens to the deed if the business owner dies before passing on ownership?  Does the business just become available for sale again?

Karen


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Sleepycat on 2006 March 07, 14:51:42
What happens to the deed if the business owner dies before passing on ownership?  Does the business just become available for sale again?

Karen


if I remember right, it passes to the sim that has the best relationship with the newly deceased sim (which could me a friend/lover/familymember)


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Maria on 2006 March 07, 16:22:05
The guide says that a business is inherited by a teen or older who is:

1. The member of the owner's household with the highest lifetime relationship to the owner.

2. The owner's closest married or blood relative.

3. The owner's closest friend.

4. Reverts to the community.

Within each category, relationship score trumps age.  If the owner has a spouse, and they have a (teen or older) kid living at home, and the offspring has a higher lifetime relationship with the owner, the offspring will inherit rather than the widow(er).  That might explain how Gilbert Jacquet owns the bakery, rather than Denise.

If two sims have the same relationship score, the elder inherits.  It's always annoyed me that if a sim had twins and named them, for instance, Zara and Anne, they'd display alphabetically in the family panel rather than in birth order.  That problem does not occur with inheritance.  If a sim leaves twin offspring (teen or older) behind, and has the same relationship with both twins, the elder will inherit.  If the offspring were created in CAS, they inherit in order of creation as well.

If a sim has just moved out, s/he is immediately considered to no longer be a part of the household, even if the cab is still pulling away when the Grim Reaper is finishing up.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Karen on 2006 March 13, 00:11:35
On a home business, ownership is transfered on death of the sim who owns the business to another member of the household. 
This is only a transfer of title.  Any perks gained by the business must be transfered to another sim before death.  The owner has a Pass Along interaction to accomplish this.

I decided to test this by having one of my elders buy a community lot business just before he died of old age.  The deed transferred to his daughter (closest living relative), and it was there in her inventory immediately after his death.  You get a message when the Sim dies indicating who inherited the business.  Unfortunately, I forgot to look for the "Pass Along" option to transfer the perks, so I guess they're gone for good.  Oh well....

Karen


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: dusty on 2006 March 13, 02:26:30
.  Unfortunately, I forgot to look for the "Pass Along" option to transfer the perks, so I guess they're gone for good.  Oh well....
Karen

This takes some time as you can only pass one perk at a time. So you would need to start well before death was imminent to get all of them.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: buddha pest on 2006 March 18, 21:39:25
I'm bumping this thread because I want to know if in a home business where you are selling craftable items, will the items in the main owner's inventory be passed to someone else in the household when he dies? Or do you just lose it all?

Should I start moving things manually from his inventory to another's when his life bar starts looking full?

I suppose this applies to community lot businesses as well.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Renatus on 2006 March 19, 09:34:03
In the Sims, you really CAN take it with you - someone kicks off with a packed inventory, they're taking it all to the graveyard. So empty it out before he meets Grimmy.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: Ruann on 2006 March 19, 17:19:07
.  Unfortunately, I forgot to look for the "Pass Along" option to transfer the perks, so I guess they're gone for good.  Oh well....
Karen

This takes some time as you can only pass one perk at a time. So you would need to start well before death was imminent to get all of them.

Or you can just not worry about it since gaining all the perks is incredibly trivial to do with barely any time or work invested in it.  Buy a cheap community lot, sell incredibly cheap crap for a day, hit rank three, sell the lot back to the community, repeat.  3 perks a day (or more) and in four days you're ready to build a real business with ease.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: skandelouslala on 2006 March 19, 18:37:44
Good thread, I was wondering how that all worked since I haven't had any business owners croak yet.
Also good to know that all the passing on needs to be done through the interaction.  I figured but wasn't entirely sure how the perks worked.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: MistMeUK on 2006 March 22, 14:48:05
Hey guys,  Has anyone figured out how to move you home business from one lot to another without loosing business rank and your loyal customers.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 22, 14:50:01
Can't be done. Sacking your business on a home lot sacks your business data. This is why if you plan to move, run your business on a community lot, which will retain it stats even when you move, give away, or sell the business, as long as it doesn't fall into the hands of a nonplayable sim.


Title: Re: How can I pass on a Bussiness
Post by: MistMeUK on 2006 March 22, 15:11:04
thanks JM,   just wanted to make sure before I moved them out.