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Title: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: pamysue on 2005 August 02, 21:57:28
I don't much like the townies, especially the kids.  And I'm really sick of my adult Sims still wanting to be friends with the horrid little imps.

I have the no regenerators installed and would love to clean house (neighborhood actually).  Since I'm stuck with their character files, I figure I might as well have the fun of killing them off.  I have barracaded one in the corner of the house with walls and she's a goner.  (Really funny that there was a window there and my Sims went into the kitchen to watch her die.)

How else can I off the townies?


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: LK on 2005 August 02, 22:01:54
BURN THEM!!!  DROWN THEM!!  At the SAME TIME!!



Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: gali on 2005 August 02, 22:05:40
Some killer...:)

Why torture them so long time? Download Carrigon's Voodoo bottle from http://www.varioussimers.net
It has an option "kill by hunger". When you want to kill some sim, click on it, choose "kill by hunger", and choose the name of the sim you want to kill. He dies instantly, the reaper comes, and then you can sell the tomb.

brrrr...:).


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: gillies on 2005 August 02, 22:26:28
I find the best way is to use 'boolprop testingCheatsEnabled true' then spawn a rodney's death creator and a tomstone of life and death, you can 'add to family.../%FirstName%' any sim in the neighborhood (already dead sims show up in this list as well so it can take a while to find the one you're looking for), then kill them with the rodney's death creator when they are on the lot... Doing it this way isn't very sporting but I killed 89 townies and ugly university sims this way without causing a mess of burned stuff all over the place which is always good.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: pamysue on 2005 August 02, 22:38:09
Why torture them so long time? Download Carrigon's Voodoo bottle from http://www.varioussimers.net
It has an option "kill by hunger". When you want to kill some sim, click on it, choose "kill by hunger", and choose the name of the sim you want to kill. He dies instantly, the reaper comes, and then you can sell the tomb.

Thank you.  I see it now.  I had looked at the Little Dolly of Death but that just makes them sick.  I've got the bottle now.  (the eyes are getting old and the fonts seem smaller all the time)

BURN THEM!!! DROWN THEM!! At the SAME TIME!!

I would love to burn them but can't seem to manage to build the fire.  Drowning... don't think I could do that.  I wouldn't want my Sims swimming in townie gut infested pool water.  :)


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: cwieberdink on 2005 August 02, 22:51:49


I would love to burn them but can't seem to manage to build the fire.  Drowning... don't think I could do that.  I wouldn't want my Sims swimming in townie gut infested pool water.  :)

Buyable fire.  Small room.  End of sim.  Cowplant is always fun.  So is influencing them to repair that broken computer....

Chris


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: dawnkeeper on 2005 August 02, 22:53:20
Why not have at them with a cow plant thingy? Clean, easy and you get some elixir of life outta them. ;)


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: taichikitten on 2005 August 02, 23:00:24
I recently went on a townie killing spree.  I am moving slowly through my Legacy family story, and I don't want the same townies showing up in the family pictures generation after generation, so I decided to clean some house.  I have one special lot in my neighborhood where all the behind-the-scene townie aging, make-overs and clothing changes occur, and it is now also home to my townie cemetary.  Using the teleportation bush from Simlogical to get them there, I then put Rodney's Death Creator to good use for awhile, and had a cow plant eat some others.  Then, I felt impatient and wanted to see something really spectacular.  I used the bush to get Kennedy, Joe, Cristy, Andrea, Melissa, Marylena, and Sophie to the lot, got them grouped together and built a tight wall around them.  Then I used buyable fire and the intense fire hack and -- WHOOSH!  It was great, and very satisfying.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: schmoopee on 2005 August 03, 02:27:36


I would love to burn them but can't seem to manage to build the fire.  Drowning... don't think I could do that.  I wouldn't want my Sims swimming in townie gut infested pool water.  :)

Buyable fire.  Small room.  End of sim.  Cowplant is always fun.  So is influencing them to repair that broken computer....

Chris

*nods* I did the buyable fire/small room method to kill off every townie in my favorite hood.  It took a few tries to get them all burned, but it was fun! lol

It wouldn't be so bad if you got different townies for each hood - but when I first got the game, I was playing Pleasantview and used the townies there a lot, so it seemed wrong to have them in my new hood. (ie - What the hell is Komei Tellerman doing here, isn't he married to so-and-so and an elder now??)

Another reason I like them gone because then your sims will only bring other sims you actually play home from work.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: SJActress on 2005 August 03, 04:50:24
Oh, laurenke, pamy is unaware of that thing that makes your sims drown and then start on fire (or is it the other way around?).
Oh, shoot.  Well, here (http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?&openItemID=&threadID=7990e2e74a2a3cc61474522c953787bb&directoryID=2&startRow=1) is the link.

 ::)


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Marvin Kosh on 2005 August 03, 05:44:09
My favourite method of Sim-killing has to be the death field :-)  I have this one college lot which has accumulated four tombstones so far - two mascots, a cheerleader, and a streaker.  It would be five but I zombified a cheerleader to keep the lot going ;-)


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: PresentTense on 2005 August 03, 06:10:43
Buyable fire is the best. Cowplants are always amusing too.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: notovny on 2005 August 03, 11:37:10
Cowplant doesn't eat children.

http://www.notovny.org/images/SayNoToCow.jpg

When in doubt, kill it with fire.

http://www.notovny.org/images/TrialByFire.jpg

But, well, I had an ulterior motive.

http://www.notovny.org/images/DoneDirtCheap.jpg
http://www.notovny.org/images/SheShallReturn.jpg


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: LK on 2005 August 03, 13:39:13
notovny: The fire picture is sweet!  Too bad Sims are too dumb to just climb over the counters, huh?  But then that wouldn't be as fun.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: notovny on 2005 August 03, 14:27:02
Well, it wouldn't have helped her in that case. Walled her up, too.  Didn't want the fire endagering my Pleasantview Community-Lot Tester Sim, Nadine Housewalk.

I also used to have a much more graphic version of the burning, taken a minute or so later, but I lost that one.

Interestingly enough, after I ressurected Marsha Breunig,  I caught her gossipping  with her boyfriend. "Nadine Housewalk Burned Food!" and they both giggled.

Guess she wasn't too traumatized about the "...And she burned me to death with it, so your mothers could have me in their house, through foul acts of Necromancy!" part.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: LK on 2005 August 03, 14:53:02
That doesn't really suprise me.  After all, burned food is MUCH more important than anything to the Sims, including the death of a loved one.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 August 03, 22:00:07
My favorite method is room o' doom, using judicious placement of APOs. You have a corridor room leading to your Room O' Doom, and that one is locked so that only the sims you want killed getting into it. The inner room has a death field activated for whatever category you want, as long as it includes the sims to be killed. Then you stick some sort of high-advertisement object into the inner chamber, and voila: Room O' Doom. Still fine tuning that last bit, though. Anyone know an object that sims are friggin' obsessive about? I could use a toddler, but that just seems . . . wrong.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Liss on 2005 August 03, 22:43:26
put a freakin piano in there...that's where all of my visitors go as soon as they walk in the door.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Brynne on 2005 August 03, 22:47:38
...pool table is even more of a magnet in my houses. Townie bait!


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 August 03, 22:55:41
Ah, yes. The pool table, and instruments. Doi. I feel silly now. Musical instrument-orchestrated doom. Of course.

And finally, an actual use for that blasted pool table. Hates it. Hates. Grr.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: hedgekat on 2005 August 03, 23:11:03
Why not just delete their character files?   If you kill them, the character files stay there forever taking up space.   

When I start a new hood I generate and name the hood then leave the game.  I then go to the character folder for that hood and delete all the character files.  No townies, no npcs.  Then I go back and make my new families.  New NPCs with different names and faces are generated as they are needed.   Paperboy, driver, postman,  etc.   No townies unless you go to a community lot.  Of course there is no one to welcome that first family into the hod but what the hey, they are pioneers. 


I also routinely delete all the character files of npcs generated by the slowdown bug. 

I haven't ever tried deleting files for townies that have been encountered by pcs but it should work just as well.   With Marsha and the others I just grew them up.  In my game, Marsha is now an adult, married to another townie, has several kids and still spends all her free time calling up everyone in town.  Even dead people. 



Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Venusy on 2005 August 03, 23:19:47
Why not just delete their character files?   If you kill them, the character files stay there forever taking up space.   

When I start a new hood I generate and name the hood then leave the game.  I then go to the character folder for that hood and delete all the character files.  No townies, no npcs.  Then I go back and make my new families.  New NPCs with different names and faces are generated as they are needed.   Paperboy, driver, postman,  etc.   No townies unless you go to a community lot.  Of course there is no one to welcome that first family into the hod but what the hey, they are pioneers. 


I also routinely delete all the character files of npcs generated by the slowdown bug. 

I haven't ever tried deleting files for townies that have been encountered by pcs but it should work just as well.   With Marsha and the others I just grew them up.  In my game, Marsha is now an adult, married to another townie, has several kids and still spends all her free time calling up everyone in town.  Even dead people. 



Isn't it easier to use the deleteAllCharacters cheat?


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Brynne on 2005 August 03, 23:25:35
Why not just delete their character files?   If you kill them, the character files stay there forever taking up space.   


I haven't ever tried deleting files for townies that have been encountered by pcs but it should work just as well.   

You just have to get rid of all the playable characters' memories of "unknown". Which is really fun.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 August 03, 23:53:51
I haven't ever tried deleting files for townies that have been encountered by pcs but it should work just as well.   With Marsha and the others I just grew them up.  In my game, Marsha is now an adult, married to another townie, has several kids and still spends all her free time calling up everyone in town.  Even dead people.
The latest Phone Hack should curb the Unified Phone Stalking greatly: A higher minimum relationship is needed to be a valid caller, and a caller who you have maxed out relations with will no longer feel the need to harass you pointlessly, since nothing can be gained from this. Also, the caller will not phone for somebody who is not present or asleep at the time the call is generated, meaning you no longer get the cellphone harasser.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: veilchen on 2005 August 04, 01:10:54
The latest Phone Hack should curb the Unified Phone Stalking greatly: A higher minimum relationship is needed to be a valid caller, and a caller who you have maxed out relations with will no longer feel the need to harass you pointlessly, since nothing can be gained from this. Also, the caller will not phone for somebody who is not present or asleep at the time the call is generated, meaning you no longer get the cellphone harasser.

Works like a charm too, I finally turned all my pixel people's phones back on. I didn't mind the low relationship sims calling so much, but the maxed ones calling continously was a big nuisance and a waste of time.

G.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: pamysue on 2005 August 04, 01:16:50
Oh, laurenke, pamy is unaware of that thing that makes your sims drown and then start on fire (or is it the other way around?).
Oh, shoot.  Well, here (http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?&openItemID=&threadID=7990e2e74a2a3cc61474522c953787bb&directoryID=2&startRow=1) is the link.

I was unaware indeed.  Thanks for the link.  I rarely visit the official BBS (unless I've just refilled my prescription).  My old brain has trouble telling the messages from the signatures when trying to read thru those threads.  Was there something in one of those posts that leads me to a drowning/burning rock or something?

My favourite method of Sim-killing has to be the death field :-) I have this one college lot which has accumulated four tombstones so far - two mascots, a cheerleader, and a streaker. It would be five but I zombified a cheerleader to keep the lot going ;-)

You are a simmer after my own heart.  Nothing like taking a day at the office out on the townies.  :)  Now where do I find a death field?

I keep forgetting I have the Cow Plant in the buyable career rewards.  Too bad it won't eat the kids but that will work quite nicely for the older townies.  Thanks for all the great ideas.  Somehow I knew the people here would have good suggestions.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: pamysue on 2005 August 04, 01:20:32
Works like a charm too, I finally turned all my pixel people's phones back on. I didn't mind the low relationship sims calling so much, but the maxed ones calling continously was a big nuisance and a waste of time.

That reminds me of something else that's been driving me crazy lately.  I've finally been letting my Sims get old and die off (thus wanting to get rid of the non-aging townies) and my surviving Sims are starting to be bombarded with "Living Sim and HIS DEAD GRANDFATHER are no longer best friends" messages.  Well, that's not exactly what it says, but that's how I read it.  I guess I should start calling my dead relatives so we don't lose touch.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 August 04, 01:45:32
Oh, there's a thought, a phone that lets you talk to dead people to keep your relationships up.

If you want those messages to stop, you may be interested in "enemiesaccumulate.package" from the Director's Cut package, which makes a few sanity changes to relational decay and enemy accumulation (such as allowing your grouchy sims to maintain their enemies without suddenly forgetting that they hate them, and if the little wussy isn't enough of a bastard to return the favor, make sure he does with some PHONE HARASSMENT!). It also moves relational decay to the start of the day, rather than midway through, makes friendship decay probabilistic in best friends (you have a 10/X chance of any best-friend relationship decaying every day, where X is the number of your best friends). Because let's face it, watching your sims spend 5 hours on the phone, during which you cannot save the game at all, gets old, uninteresting and tiresome fast, and I figure that 10 is a reasonable number which keeps the actual difficulty while dropping the tedium.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 August 04, 01:48:09
I can see it now.

"Bob, why don't we ever talk anymore?"
" . . . because you're dead?"


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: nothingbutsims on 2005 August 04, 17:41:06
The latest Phone Hack should curb the Unified Phone Stalking greatly: A higher minimum relationship is needed to be a valid caller, and a caller who you have maxed out relations with will no longer feel the need to harass you pointlessly, since nothing can be gained from this. Also, the caller will not phone for somebody who is not present or asleep at the time the call is generated, meaning you no longer get the cellphone harasser.

Works like a charm too, I finally turned all my pixel people's phones back on. I didn't mind the low relationship sims calling so much, but the maxed ones calling continously was a big nuisance and a waste of time.

G.

Yes, this is a great hack - I love it!  My phone hardly ever rings now.


Title: Re: Best way to kill off townie children?
Post by: pamysue on 2005 August 04, 20:01:59
Oh, there's a thought, a phone that lets you talk to dead people to keep your relationships up.

If you want those messages to stop, you may be interested in "enemiesaccumulate.package" from the Director's Cut package, which makes a few sanity changes to relational decay and enemy accumulation (such as allowing your grouchy sims to maintain their enemies without suddenly forgetting that they hate them, and if the little wussy isn't enough of a bastard to return the favor, make sure he does with some PHONE HARASSMENT!). It also moves relational decay to the start of the day, rather than midway through, makes friendship decay probabilistic in best friends (you have a 10/X chance of any best-friend relationship decaying every day, where X is the number of your best friends). Because let's face it, watching your sims spend 5 hours on the phone, during which you cannot save the game at all, gets old, uninteresting and tiresome fast, and I figure that 10 is a reasonable number which keeps the actual difficulty while dropping the tedium.

Ah, I missed this one as it came in the pack.  And thanks for the explanation.  That sounds like it will help a bit with the resentment from the great beyond.