Thanks Striker, I'm off to download. *crosses fingers*

Quite true. All we need is some empty beer bottles, piles of dirty clothes, and a few supermodel posters and it'll be perfect. 

I could be wrong but I thought greek members bring back objects rather than pizza when the greek house is at level 5-6. I've never had greek houses with that high of a level (mine are all about 3, I think I have one level 4), so far all my greek sims have brought back nothing but pizza, when I let them go. Most of the time I cancel out of the "visit campus" action because I was tired of the half eaten pizza and pizza boxes littering the lot. I don't know why they go get another pizza when the first one still has plenty of slices and is still fresh. Very annoying.

Great news! I'm looking forward to seeing what it fixes too. Hopefully this continues to be a sign of much better things to come. *fingers crossed*

Oh, great. Now I have that song from Santana's Supernatural album featuring Everlast running through my head. "Put Your Lights On." Good song though. 

I may have misunderstood what you said but you can have Greek houses at Le Tour, you just have to make them yourself. I like to use the victorian house for a sorority and that three story "craftsman" style home for a fraternity. Just make sure to name the lot for the fraternity/sorority (like Oresha Cham House) when you place it, otherwise you'll have a Greek house named "75 Pine Street" or something like that. Move your students in, have one of them select "apply for charter" on the phone and for a small fee they're a Greek house.

One of the things I especially like about NL is the new feature with the lot bin. I've placed all of my empty houses and community lots in it, when I put them back in the neighborhood a handy duplicate remains in the bin. Very nice for my custom university (Salem Technological Institute) in my own neighborhood (Three Sisters Island). I placed copies (renamed them too) of some of the Sim State community stores in Pleasantview because I liked the way they looked better than the community lots that came with Pleasantview. They had more of the "old town Main Street" I was looking for.

That's good to know, thanks for sharing the advice. 

Thank you nectere for the explanation. It's an annoying situation but understanding the reason behind the issue reduces my frustration greatly. Until the issue is fixed (hopefully soon) I'll use your process for moving tombstones I absolutely want moved and I like the mausoleum idea too for the my large, creepy houses. Thanks again, not knowing why was bugging me.

Eww, I'd completely forgotten that Lola & Chloe are actually half-siblings of the Curious brothers and Jenny Smith. I'd never really paid attention to the family tree and thought at most they were distant cousins or such. Before my reinstall Lola was married to Pascal, raising alien step-son Ulyssess and their twins William and Anne. Chloe had son Trevor by Lazlo Curious before he settled down with Crystal Vu. I haven't touched Strangetown yet since the reinstall, maybe it's time to go in a completely different drection before I gross myself out entirely. I may still marry Vidcund Curious to Erin Singles though, they seem to get along quite well.

I was having similar problems with the "invisible" tombstones too. I thought I'd solved it by using only the "move grave or graves" option then immediately saving and going to the community lot to place the tombstone. I'd also stopped using Gothier Green Lawns for anything other than a hangout spot and used my own community cemeteries I'd created. Sadly as I'd mentioned in this thread the problem came back after Herb Oldie died in platinum. I'd kept him alive about 15 sim days longer than normal (with the Elixir) so he and Coral could raise a couple more adopted kids. Herb also had a kid with a Romance sim I'd made and a kid with Dina Caliente after Mortimer had died. In some ways this new glitch reminded me of the old "undead elder" bug. So I went ahead and decided to reinstall (wanted to redo all the neighborhoods anyway) and start everything over. I've been able to move Darleen Dreamer to my Pleasantview Memorial Lawn with success. Mortimer's due to die shortly and I'm hoping moving him will work ok.

What's frustrating is that I don't have any idea of what's going wrong. Why it worked sometimes and then stopped working. I can't stand it when I know something is wrong but I don't have the knowledge to figure it out or fix it. I'll be so relieved when Pescado gets his copy and is able to take a look and find out the cause, I'm concerned that the reinstall is just buying me some time and the problem will return at some point again.

Sorry about not responding earlier, I've been inundated with non-sims chores.  Perhaps it is a bug with Maxis-created sims, or Herb & Coral sharing two water coolers of Elixir (to raise the kids they adopted) had something to do with it. I'm not sure. Since my computer knowledge is minimal at best it's going to take the modders to figure this one out. I've reinstalled my game, hopefully by the time I have someone die there might be more information about this problem, or even a fix. Though Mortimer will die in about two sim days, I wonder if I'll have any luck moving his grave to my Pleasantview Cemetery lot. I guess I'll save the neighborhood in my backup folder right before he dies and see what happens.

I agree. By far, the most "dream dates" my sims have had were at a home lot. The frat house at Sim State is beginning to look kind of silly with all of the bouqets of red roses about.  I may try a few community lot dates just for fun but dream dates at home are so much easier to manage.

So our sims can have Narcissistic Personality Disorder too? I haven't seen that yet, other than the usual plain dreaming about themselves (without the little hearts). Too funny.

Seeing your post this afternoon perked my interest so I decided to get started (again) on the Sim State college students. I thought it would make it interesting to go a completely different direction this time. I made three ladies that I thought would be perfect for Ashley, Kevin & Castor. So far Ashley & Felicity are deeply in love, Kevin & Madeline are almost there and Castor & Renee are on their way to becoming good friends. I wanted to play longer but RL chores are always piling up around here. There's a couple of handsome guys I've made that Heather & Tiffany will meet the next time I can play.

The funniest thing was the house where Martin, Jane and Allegra live. I gave Allegra a makeover because I like her better with short blond hair and softer makeup. While I was checking on Jane to have her work off the "freshman 15" (the extra pounds) I heard that funny little noise the sims make when they're attracted to another. Martin & Allegra were "checking each other out", and if you can believe it they have three lightning bolts for each other! So I guess those two are destined to be together. It's funny the things your sims will do when left to their own devices.

I know what you mean about wanting your little people happy. My neighborhoods have always tended to be mostly "happily ever after" with a small touch of "desperate housewives". And if you can believe it I have a dollhouse that I've been working on too for a few years now. Not the type a child can play with though, it's more for a collector/crafty adult. I sure enjoy my sims though and enjoy working out their stories. It's more fun than reading a trashy novel or watching dramatic tv shows. I get to take the story wherever I want it to go. My husband thinks I'm a little overinvolved but it's so much fun how can I not be?

How about find (or create) the perfect three-bolt guy for Tiffany? Her current romance with Castor can be one of those young adult college flings that just don't work out. Maybe have one couple live in downtown and one in Pleasantview and just let the love feelings fizzle out. Or have a big teary blow out where one of them catches the other,"I thought you loved me!" The level of drama is up to you!  I decided to do a fresh reinstall on Sunday so I'm back to square one with all the in-game sims. Last time around I had Tiffany with Kevin, Castor with Allegra, and Heather with Martin but I may do something completely different this time. I'm not really all that interested in Brittany or Joshua, they may remain  permanent students. Or very shallow Pleasure sims.

Nightlife is sure adding all sorts of fun to the Romance aspiration for me. I had this one Romance gal I just made (Leila) and she's a kick. She lives in the downtown to Strangetown and hooked up with that frat guy from La Fiesta Tech, I think his name is Mickey. They're so enamored of each other they woohoo'd on the first date. As they're sleeping Leila dreams not only of Mickey, but the fireman (who she hasn't met yet) and a couple of the neighbors who'd stopped by. She's going to be quite the busy lady!  

Thanks for the laugh Gus!  I haven't had a horrible date yet, I may try it out. I've heard you can keep the flaming bags in your sim's inventory, then line them up a walkway like luminarias. That would make quite the decorating statement.

So far the only thing I've noticed about the chemistry element is that it seems to get compatible sims in a love relationship faster than before. It used to take me a couple of sim days to get them in love, one couple I played yesterday fell in love and married within 24 sim hours of their "blind date." This could make it even easier for adult Romance sims to fulfill their "woohoo with 20 sims" LTW without needing the elixir of life. As long as they pick a compatible date things go well enough for a woohoo interaction on the first date.

I'm having fun with this EP too, minus some of the annoyances I've encountered (like glitches with moving graves). I'm really glad to hear that Maxis is doing as much as they can to stay on top of the bugs. The new downtown area is really neat and I can't say enough about the houses, they are beautiful (always been a fan of those gorgeous San Francisco victorian homes). I'm not all that interested in the business EP yet but I'm glad they're making it. We all have different interests in what we like and it's a good thing that Maxis tries to meet a wide variety of those interests. Hope that makes sense.

My apologies for not being clear in my post. With the other posts I've been seeing that describe the same problem as you I think this is an unfortunate glitch. By design you should be able to influence a sim to drink the potion (whether it is the vamprocillin, the renu-port-a-chug or the love potion) but for some reason it doesn't work. The interaction simply disappears. I had the same problem with the renu-port-a-chug. Olive Spector placed hers on the dining table but Nervous Subject (who lives with her now) won't drink it. I could be wrong but I'm thinking this can be added to the list of NL bugs.

I've seen other posts about this on one of the other sites, or maybe the BBS (can't remember at the moment) but I think nothingbutsims is right. The vamp needs to use his/her own Vamprocillin-D from his/her inventory. For some reason they won't touch it otherwise, even if it's on the table right in front of them. I don't know if this is a glitch or as designed.  Would you be able to get the medicine into the vampire's inventory with Merola's mind control mirror or is that not NL compatible yet?

There's always the options of the new cheats, and some nifty new modded objects made from the cheats (as I mentioned in the other vampire thread). Carrigon's gold spider and Twojeffs' college adjuster have options for the vampire cheats, along with many others. They definitely make my gameplay more enjoyable for me.

Both Carrigon's golden spider and Twojeffs' college adjuster have vampire options ("make vampire" and "cure"). I've been using both objects for their other splendid qualities and have had no problems. Carrigon's golden spider is really neat, you can place it on a table or the floor and it utilizes all of the new cheats. Perhaps this could help your sim's future fiance.

Thank you jfade, I really appreciate your hard work. Can't wait to try out the no biting whatsoever version.

Wow, weird! I had noticed that certain previously unresurrectable dead (Ophelia Nigmos' parents, Lyla Grunt, Skip Broke, etc.) are now resurrectable but I didn't realize stuff could be done with the Pleasantview Bella now. I've seen "Bella clone" partying it up in the downtown Strangetown nightclubs. I wonder if she'll start wandering around like a regular townie or if you have to do certain stuff like the teleporter bush to get her to appear. Could she actually show up as a blind date from the matchmaker? Or will we see her in one of the nightclubs, spinning in that orb thing? I wonder if this means the BBS will be spammed more with Bella threads. *shudders* Should make for some really interesting game play. I'm still undecided as to whether I should leave her in permanent limbo or not.

That's a great idea Ruann. Gives the gamer a little more control over the vampire aspect. I'd thought from the chats and such that a vampire would bite only if the relationship was high enough. So I had planned on just not befriending any vampires, since I'm not interested. This random biting is not something I want to happen, but I'd like others who enjoy the vampire aspect to still be able to play it as they'd like. Your idea helps to widen the choices of the gamer, as I think it should be. Hopefully it's doable.

Thank you many times over!  I would love an option to turn off autonomous biting or vampires all together. I'm just not into that aspect of the game and didn't want it pushed upon me by incidents of random biting. A mod to avoid that would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry to be a pain and bring this up again but unfortunately the problem came back today. Yesterday Herb Oldie died in platinum (I had reset my neighborhoods to my last backup right before I installed NL). I moved his grave to "Pleasantview Memorial Lawn", and the strangest thing was that his fancy platinum tombstone was now plain grey at the community lot. Perhaps I should have then realized that something was wrong. Today it was Coral Oldie & Olive Spector's time to meet the Grim Reaper. They died, I clicked "move to X" and saved but I then had the same problem with the tombstone would be invisible on the community lot in build/buy mode and visible when a sim goes to the lot. *sigh* Though I'd let you all know. I'll fill out the form at the BBS as soon as I can, right now I have the "icepick-in-my-right-temple" sort of headache.

Bummer, I thought I'd found a way to make the cemetery feature work but the problem with it is above my minimal computer knowledge. I'm going to have to leave it up to Maxis and/or the mods to figure out what's going wrong. So far it's beginning to seem like a nasty new incarnation of the undead/elder bug.

And what about vampires randomly biting other sims, like Brandi Broke and Dina Caliente? I've read a few posts over on the BBS about this and was puzzled. I was under the impression that a sim would only be bit if they had a high enough relationship with the vampire. I'm not really into that aspect of gameplay (have very few aliens and no zombies either) so I thought if my sims avoided them like they do the child townies I wouldn't have any other vampires than the ones that came with the game. Are these incidents of "random" biting a glitch also?

Yum, now my sims can have cake for breakfast, just like I do sometimes!