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Title: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 April 22, 04:55:43
yesterday i got my bodyshop to work after what, 2 years? i proceeded to recolour 2000 hairs and decided to share them. then i thought, hey.. why not do a whole bunch of hairs? so i culled the DL folder and downloaded every hair i could come across.

this site is currently small and has very little on it and i'm basically adding the DL links right now... but i'll add more as time goes by:
http://www.freewebs.com/death-to-raon/

i'm sure you're more used to hacks and whatnot but i know very few people take the time to recolour their hairs for personal use as it's boring, tedious work. plus, sims file vault is down. so, ta-da. if this is against some kind of rule or something like that just delete the thread.

note: i am using pets bodyshop


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: witch on 2007 April 22, 05:34:19
Big job. So, you don't like pink?  :D


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: dewshine on 2007 April 22, 05:40:53
LOL, witch.  I got that impression too.

Cool site though.  I really enjoyed the comments. keep 'em coming!

PS Sussi So Good Sims  stuff is now at MTS2.  http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=763187 (http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=763187) and http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=54226 (http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=54226)

I'm sure that the hair with the bun and braid is there now.  But maybe not... I don't see it.  Odd I'm sure I have in the past... 


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 April 22, 06:57:35
yea i looked all over for that sussi hair and couldn't find it. D:

i have the mesh, it's just been swallowed up by my other 10 gigs of crap lol.

and coming from someone who has pink hair irl... YES THE "PINK=RED" TREND MUST DIE.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: SaraMK on 2007 April 22, 20:59:34
Your site really shows the color-blind creator problem that's rampant in the community. Peggy, Rose, and Sunair are three of the worst  offenders, followed by XM (who are doing better as of a few months ago). I don't know WTF their problem is, really. Pink is not red. I especially get pissed off when they bin  their weirdo pink hair in the red color bin.

Besides the pink = red idiocy, there is also the blue = black idiocy. Whatta 'ya know, the same creators as above are the worst offenders. Blue = black actually can annoy me more than pink = red, because the pink can still be used if left in the custom bin, but the idiotic blue is just useless crap that I have  to edit.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: torawashi on 2007 April 23, 02:02:28
I've also seen brown in the black bin, blond in the brown bin, and creators who think "blonde" means BRIGHT CANARY YELLOW. Drives me NUTS. This is wonderful. How were the recolors done, BTW? Did you use color sliders in Photoshop or were the textures completely replaced? I know I had a hard time with some of XMSims stuff because some of the textures had so much white.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: KellyQ on 2007 April 23, 02:22:53
I've also seen brown in the black bin, blond in the brown bin, and creators who think "blonde" means BRIGHT CANARY YELLOW. Drives me NUTS.

Ditto. Peggy is especially bad about this. Dark brown does not = black, dark blonde does not = brown...and wtf is up with red hair? I freely admit I do not know how to make or recolor anything in body shop but my god, some of the shades of "red" hair I see is astounding. Pink, fire engine red, ghastly orange. I can love every other color of a new hair until I get to the red and then it's WTF?

Is red hair really that hard to do?


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: gethane on 2007 April 23, 03:15:43
Totally cracking up at your comments.

"I'm sorry. What the fuck?"

 ;D


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 April 24, 03:08:17
hey thanks for all the comments everyone, i'll put some more up now

Is red hair really that hard to do?

not really, i just extract the brown colour and adjust the contrast until it's red. HOWEVER, some people can't even make a decent brown, and i have to create the red from scratch. i seriously wonder what is going through these peoples' heads when they're colouring their stuff...

"OOPS I MADE IT TOO BRIGHT, oh well i'm too lazy to go back and fix it. instant $2.50!"

then there's people like sunair and rose who always use the EXACT same crap shades for every hair they do. funny how they both charge for it too.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: AuKestrel on 2007 April 26, 18:34:20
I shouldn't have been reading your site at work since, um, it's hard to explain why I'm laughing so hard to my coworkers.

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This mesh is disgusting. Will someone PLEASE tell me what's up with those pigtails..?!? If it had been uploaded in 2004, I might have been able to sympathize just a bit. But 2006?

You win.

Also, I love to colourbin hair so maybe I can help out. My kids laugh at me because I am so freakish about colourbinning - "You spend more time doing that than playing the game, Mom." "Well, it's fun. For ME."


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Tamha on 2007 April 27, 00:03:15
You can get that Sussi hair from The Sims 2 Graveyard: http://sims2graveyard.com/


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: alkaloid on 2007 April 28, 21:00:30
So Sshodan hates women that much, huh?

ANYWAY, do you need help with binning? It's not hard - SimPE just has a very user-unfriendly GUI.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 April 29, 14:43:28
i'm going to try colourbinning the next hairs. it's just that the one time i did try it a few months ago my DL folder was super unorganized and i couldn't find ANY hairs lol, and then i never tried again. thanks for the offers.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: polonius on 2007 April 29, 23:42:28
Your reds are much nicer.  I actually like the ones you say are too vibrant. *shrug*

Also love the comments.  I think this was my favorite:

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Darkened. The salad tucked away in the back also got darkened. Doesn't look any worse, though.

 :D :D


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 April 30, 06:49:16
I would absolutely love to download yoru recolours, unfortunatley the file hoster is really good at hiding your file under a metric fuckton of spam. Can you give me a hint, please?


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 April 30, 07:26:16
then there's people like sunair and rose who always use the EXACT same crap shades for every hair they do. funny how they both charge for it too.
Hey, at least it's consistent. What would be WORSE if they used DIFFERENT crap shades. Instead you can just apply the same HSV adjust that worked on the previous one, so the crappiness of the shading is, at least, representative of a difference of opinion rather than purely shoddy workmanship.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 April 30, 23:31:34
I would absolutely love to download yoru recolours, unfortunatley the file hoster is really good at hiding your file under a metric fuckton of spam. Can you give me a hint, please?

it's under the giant ugly google ad in the middle of the page. or just ctrl + f "Download for free with FileFactory Basic"

edit: ok, you know what i just realized? the files on this site expire after like a week. BUT, i know how to fix that. give me time.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: AuKestrel on 2007 May 02, 15:05:19
You are my new favourite person ever, not least because you caught on to FTP so quick. *glee*

ENNYway. I just saw the note from Sshodan. WTF??? You can't post recolours of refits someone else made?

That makes a sense that is not.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 May 02, 15:24:21
Thanks Frivolous. I wouldn't bitch so hard, but I need those damn recolours of yours. :D


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: torawashi on 2007 May 02, 16:10:40
So Sshodan hates women that much, huh?

ANYWAY, do you need help with binning? It's not hard - SimPE just has a very user-unfriendly GUI.
Yanno, that post makes me want to make female versions of every single hair that psychotic bitch has just out of spite. You can't even make a version for your own personal use and take a screenshot? What the fuck.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: starrling on 2007 May 02, 17:06:53
Just got around to looking at your site and must applaud you!  Great work.

Also, thought you might like to know (posting here is easier than emailing, hope you don't mind) the link for the Chinafan Sims mesh takes you to XMSims.  Of course, anyone with half a brain can figure out how to find it, but that criteria might exclude some sheep folk :P


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 May 03, 00:03:33
yeah the chinafan hair is just a retexture of that xmsims mesh. ;p


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: starrling on 2007 May 03, 02:24:48
Oh!  Sorry, I'll shut up now  ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Starrling/3moties/censored3.gif)


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 May 03, 04:19:30
Frivolous, you say on your site that the sussi hair is no longer available, which isn't strictly true, since I got it through the booty - via a link from your website iirc. I downloaded it on the weekend.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 May 03, 19:46:37
are you sure? i strictly remember the hair being free, as in i downloaded it straight from her site when it existed. plus i've already checked the booty... maybe i'm missing something? lol.

tamha said the mesh is at the sims 2 graveyard but that site doesn't provide pictures so i still don't which file is which. :B

edit: nevermind, turns out they do have pics. found it.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: dewshine on 2007 May 03, 20:04:04
It's the "Venus" hair.

but I don't see the mesh for it at the graveyard either. 

There's no Sussi's in the booty at all, being as her 'pay' site is no more.

I'm sure eventually it will be uploaded to MTS2, if it isn't hiding there already.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 May 04, 00:13:00
the site has the colours up, and i'm assuming the mesh is just included. i'm too lazy to go back and check. :l


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Noukie on 2007 May 21, 16:49:39
Either your pictures are crap, or you didnt look at the recolors properly, lol.
Do you realize using the Color Balance tool will take the texture's quality down and pollute it with all kind of blocky green/brown/purple/whatever shit?
(And btw, how does replacing fire engine red with blazing orange improve anything? :P)
Before calling creators colorblind, let's call it crappy taste instead.

Now let's take a look at your 'improved' stuff, and tell me who's colorblind:

http://i18.tinypic.com/4p29mjk.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/4maj5v7.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/65zqecn.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/52ar1j6.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/6ftqhhy.jpg

Now improve, or be mocked along with the other creators.






Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Ambular on 2007 May 21, 18:53:16
I've always assumed Sunair and others like her must be taking their cue from some anime or other, where weird hair colors are rampant.  Their Sim models always look very Japanese-cartoony.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: witch on 2007 May 21, 19:54:09
(And btw, how does replacing fire engine red with blazing orange improve anything? :P)

I had wondered that myself, didn't download any of the recolours, partially because I mostly preferred the originals. (Of the few hairs I have that are the same as these). I didn't know you could degrade mesh textures by changing the colours - that would explain a lot of what I see on the net.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 May 21, 20:52:24
Either your pictures are crap, or you didnt look at the recolors properly, lol.
Do you realize using the Color Balance tool will take the texture's quality down and pollute it with all kind of blocky green/brown/purple/whatever shit?
(And btw, how does replacing fire engine red with blazing orange improve anything? :P)
Before calling creators colorblind, let's call it crappy taste instead.

Now let's take a look at your 'improved' stuff, and tell me who's colorblind:

http://i18.tinypic.com/4p29mjk.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/4maj5v7.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/65zqecn.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/52ar1j6.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/6ftqhhy.jpg

Now improve, or be mocked along with the other creators.






the reds with the green/blue/whatever blocks and stuff are like the first ones i did.
:C
i've improved.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 May 21, 21:52:26
Don't get discouraged, hon.

You had to expect, though, that the snarky tone you took (very funny, don't get me wrong) would invite similar snarky critique of your own efforts.

There are Photoshop tuts out there that can give you quick guides as to what tools are best for what. Colour Balance is not always the best way, even if it is quick'n'dirty to use.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Noukie on 2007 May 22, 13:37:21
Sorry, I'm a women, women like to bitch. Would you liek me to show you some nice tricks to recolor?
Don't expect much, cuz I'm colorblind... lol j/k.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: floopyboo on 2007 May 22, 14:02:40
There's no Sussi's in the booty at all, being as her 'pay' site is no more.

I beg to differ. (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/inactive_sites/sussi/) I actually got hold of the hair from there, which is why I was so insistent that that's where I got it. :D

Although, now that I'm back there & actually looking for the file, it isn't bloody there. Now you guys are going to kick my scrawny arse for tossing all of the stuff I'd acquired for my victorian hood when I scrapped that project due to way too much brokeness. :p


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Skadi on 2007 May 23, 06:58:35
I have all Sussi's pay stuff, if you want any of it...

-Skadi


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 May 23, 07:36:05
A lot of Sussi's stuff got dumped to MTS2, check there. Also try that Graveyard site. Also, why is this site called "Death to Raon", yet you only have like two Raons there?


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: frivolous on 2007 May 23, 20:04:26
i dunno
i like the way it sounds?

nouk,
thanks but i've learned to use the brown to make the reds now and then adjust the... whatever it's called
i was using the blondes originally

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/sevzem/hairs/xm30.png)

see? no ugly blue squares :D


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: twink on 2007 May 23, 22:38:02
Sorry, I'm a women, women like to bitch. Would you liek me to show you some nice tricks to recolor?
Don't expect much, cuz I'm colorblind... lol j/k.

If there are tricks using bodyshop to recolor hair I would like to hear them all...I don't have any of the good paint programs so the tricks would have to be for bodyshop.

Thanks Twink


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Tamha on 2007 May 24, 00:37:13
Twink:

http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html

Paint.net, free photoshop-esqe program available on the internet.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: akatonbo on 2007 May 24, 05:47:22
Body Shop doesn't have ANY ability to edit graphics by itself, so no, there are no tricks for it. Get thee hence to www.gimp.org (or try out this GetPaint thing which I know nothing about; I used to use GIMP when I had a Linux box), download a powerful free graphics program, and get cracking. ;)


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: notveryawesome on 2007 May 24, 06:34:30
If you're used to Photoshop, then Gimp is difficult to get used to, but if you've never used a photo-editing software of any kind, it's as good as any to start with.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Arina on 2007 July 15, 22:22:13
Real hair doesn't have 'highlights and shading' consisting of big white splodges, though, but I'll admit many of the originals I looked at didn't, either.

And 'real red hair' is far closer to orange than to pink, unless you mean 'red hair' as in 'dyed red' and not the sort of red hair that typically comes with freckly, pale skin (the former might be more common, though, depends where you live).

Personally, I don't mind some dyed-red hair along with the natural, or varying shades of brown, because it allows me to add more realism to my game. But some 'hair colours' (for example, Peggy's trademark yellow-crayon 'blonde', don't know if she's still attached to that), they're beyond naff. Pretty much no matter what you do to them, you can't make them worse XD


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: kuronue on 2007 July 15, 22:34:54
You know, some red in brown isn't unrealistic. Not all brown is mud-brown or crap-brown. My dad's hair is black, and he's african-american, with the standard afro-curls (he keeps his hair clipped short, but I've seen pics). My mother has red hair, and she's some type of white. My hair came out auburn, mostly brown with some red in it, as well as curly. I've never seen anyone with crap-brown hair like some of the pics.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: akatonbo on 2007 July 16, 01:07:37
This site is full of lovely recolor sets of mostly pay hair, with all four color plus grey, properly binned and family-linked. I've gotten rid of the originals for every single hair that I already had that she's recolored, and downloaded at least one that I hadn't bothered with before: http://rissa-styles.tevalon.de/


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: kuronue on 2007 July 16, 02:04:03
I saw that earlier. Someone was complaining on S2C that "Do all you filesharers really just want the whole community to be full of sites like this one? I can't even tel the difference! There's no creativity! At least paysites are original!"

I was all, "um, yes? A good recolor is better than more crappy meshes any day."


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Mens Mortuus on 2007 July 16, 02:06:55
Very true. I've dumped many good meshes too, because of the horrid colors. Asian sites have a really bad habit of making reds pink or fire engine red :(


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: morriganrant on 2007 July 16, 02:57:58
I have met people with red hair that is indeed orange. One of my best friends since 3rd grade. Her hair is Orange and so is the hair of several members of her family. Although I haven't actually seen the natural color in awhile. Its been blue, purple, bright pink, so forth so on. However from 3rd grade until 8th it was orange I think it may have darkened since then, little hard to tell with as little as you see her roots.

My hair has natural highlights. There are some individual hairs that are a dark blond\light brown and then theres some that would be a red\brown, they don't congregate in clumps of course. My brown hair is nearly black.

I support this project. Alot of hair colors are just weird in comparison to others. I don't care if its fire engine red but i do not want it in my red bin, that is not a natural color and it should be in custom. Where as maxis colors aren't that great i would still like the colors to be somewhat consistent. Those damn red colors that are not found anywhere in nature, those blonds in brown, and those dark browns that are still none-the less brown are in black, it annoys he shit out of me and i have spent days re-binning before. My hair is so dark a brown that its almost black but these browns being put in black are a very definite chocolate nearly every time, and in fact the color is usually seen as the staple of the color brown o mos of the populous.


Sshodan does not sound pleasant. What? You play with my toys my way or i take them home and you never see me or them again so there? Sounds almost like she should be sticking her tongue out at you like a child at the end of that message. Not even a screenshot, just wow.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: Count Four on 2007 July 20, 05:28:41
Ah, don't listen to them. What's called 'red' hair on humans is not red. It's orange.  Real human hair of the color people call 'red' is, in fact, orange. It might be more accurate to call it 'ginger'.  Or 'tangerine'.  Or just fucking say orangeheads, instead of redheads and stop trying to pretend it's something other than what it is -- it's fucking orange.

There are people with darker hair that has a reddish color; people who have reddish-brown hair.  That is called auburn. It's not the same thing as 'red' hair, which is orange.

And there are plenty of real people with 'mud brown' hair. Several of them in my family.

In other words, I like your recolors. I may actually download some hair now.


Title: Re: Huge recolour project
Post by: jacay on 2007 July 24, 20:19:43
Hahahaha, thank you so much. I don't even have like any of these hairs, but reading through those was great, plus I too get really mad at terrible colors. There's this one I have...I don't know what they were trying to color, but it clearly wasn't hair. Maybe a dead animal. I'm not sure.