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Disease:

Does anyone feel/notice that sickness seems contagious? Everytime one sim gets sick nearly everyone else starts to get sick too!

I had a lot of sick sims then played another lot, seems like my sims will get sickeverytime the sick people visit, and i start seeing other visiting sims (playable but not currenlty controlled) coughing. After I quarenteened affected lots off in a room w/o doors and waited 'til they're better and play normal again everyone seems to be fine once more.

If there isn't one already (i looked through the hacks directories and googled the site, couldn't find any) is it possible for a mod to:
1) Make non-active sims immune to sickness.
2) Remove the spread of disease from one person to another.

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OFB Employees:

Is it possible for a mod to make sure Managers/Employees avoid severely fighting/irritating their enemies at all costs during work? I mean seriously, no matter how much you hate the person you just don't do anything while you're on the job.. at worst you'd give them bad/non-service, not poking and attacking. If they come to bug ya then just duck outta the way or something.

In my game, Darren Dreamer is the Typhoid Mary of Pleasantview.  He is always hacking and coughing in the faces of other Sims; I don't play him so havent taken the time to cure him. 

So, I've had random bouts of the flu bug in my game but I always isolate the sick dude/dudette in a separate bedroom, make sure everyone else in the house washes their hands often, and if the biotech station happens to be available, make a few doses of medicine - although it certainly doesn't work very fast.  If you keep the sick Sim in bed sleeping, reading, or daydreaming, they get well after xx hours.

Your other Sims need to practice good hygiene.  Always pays to wash your hands often.   :)

Don't have any fighting managers/employees so can't help you there.  Why doesn't your owner intervene with a pep talk or reassignment?

I saw something that does this either at MTS2 or at the insimenator site.

Diseases spread, well, like the plague. If a sim contracts the plague, you have to isolate him until cured, and nobody can visit community lots until then, because otherwise he'll show up and spread the plague. Once TOWNIES contract the plague, your neighborhood is basically screwed, since the only real way to cure townies is to kill them, but if you've allowed the plague to get that far...

(http://www.keradwc.com/2001_sca/20010331_plague/images/2001_11_29.jpg)

Ya.. i figured this might be the case. Until today I figured if i always remember to not leave the lots with sick people I should be fine, but then i found out people can get sick from food or being in the hot tub too long and this time my sim got sick while I was having a full party......

I don't think the sickness from food is supposed to be contagious, but you can also get the plague from work, and if you don't notice it (message doesn't always appear), the plague may rapidly start spreading.

Wait, I know about food poisoning, but hot tub disease? ???

That's a new one for me too.  Do they get yeast infections or something?  :P  They were probably already sick before they got in the hot tub.  I've had a sim die after woohooing several times in a row in the hot tub, but the actual cause of death was starvation.  Hunger takes a big hit during woohoo, and it must have fell below zero during woohoo so when they got out, they died.

Dying from sex. How sad!  :-\
Rainbow is mean.

I had a preg sim dying once from hunger while the excited hubby is painting a picture of her big belly. That's the first death I got from food deprivation.

I think perhaps the sim is sick when getting into hot tub and spead it to the other hot-tubbers while in it? Just a random guess. I had sims who soak in that blasted thing for 3 sim days and she is not sick after that.

If you have the InSimenator, there is an option there to immunize youe sims, and no sim who is immunized will be sick. If you make a visitor selectable, you can immunize him too, and thus prevent sickness in the whole hood.

In sims1 I had sims get sick from being in the hot tub outdoors, at night- pneumonia

I'm not mean, I am actually very good to my sims.  I have very few deaths in my neighborhoods, mostly old-age related.  This particular sim was a professor at uni, and I had no idea how hungry he was until he said he was leaving.  My sim got out of the tub and went to go eat something, but he got stuck on the lot somehow and expired.  She wasn't all that upset though.  I think I was using TJ's casual romance, so she wasn't in love with him.  I was trying to see how fast I could get her grade up by just woohoo alone.  I decided it is not worth it, especially with College Rampage to take care of the dirty work for you.  I didn't mind the professor dying since I'm not really attached to them, but I was annoyed that the game spawned another useless professor in his place, as if we don't have enough professors already.  I think one professor per major is plenty, but that's another rabbit that has been beaten to death already.  ::)

BTW, the new version of the InSimenator has an option to cure just one sim, the whole household, or even the whole neighborhood.  Shaklin's medicine cabinet has medicine your sim can take to cure illness, and Danny's DMA Miscellaneous NPCs has a paramedic you can call to cure a sim who is ill.  It's kinda cool to see the ambulance come rushing up and the paramedic run to your sim with the medicine to drink.  Inge also made a No Disease patch, which is a global mod and disabled disease and morning sickness altogether, which I used for awhile. 

Wait, what is college rampage?! Is that a mod which I need and am unaware of?  8)

Ok fine. You are "very good" to your sims then since its a prof that died and I hate them too especially their horrible clothes.

My BF knows about how fast a cold can spread into a hole neighobrhood.  I did warn him:  "don't leave that lot until all your Sims are heatly again" but he did not listen to me.. shame on him...  :P

True sometimes the game does not show a warning message but if one Sim is sick you will hear it coughing so pay attention... Also, if you are still not sure, by going back to neighborhood and reloading the lot you should get a message that a Sim is sick after a few minutes of play.

Sims that get food poisining cannot spead this disease.  No sims can get sick by staying in the hot tub to long.  There is always a random chance your Sim will come back from work sick.

No, sims who have food poisoning aren't contagious, but they will go around puking in everyone's toilet all over the neighborhood when they visit until you play them and cure them.  ::)  That right there is enough for me to go play their lot and get them well.  I think if you get sick at someone's house, you should try to clean it up, not leave the mess in the toilet for your host to deal with.  :P

Jysudo, "College Rampage" is a part of Pescado's Macrotastics.  It's awesome, of course.  Your sims will run around doing college stuff, such as writing term papers, doing assignments, and group research until their grade bar is full.  If they need skills, they will automatically do the appropriate skill-building activity.  They will eat, sleep, and use the bathroom as necessary.  It works best with JM's Bathroom Uses You, the Skillinator, sleep clock, and flamingos or gnomes for kicking, plus all other required objects such as computers and skill objects.  If your sim has all required skills, it takes about 24 sim hours to fill the grade meter.  Then you can have them goof off until the final, or have them take the final immediately using JM's College Timer Setting Thingy or TJ's College Adjuster and jump to the next semester.

Thank you Rainbow for explaining all that. I appreciate it.

I tried some of his marcos but I still prefer running around mirco managing these stuff so I guess that's why I didn't know about this college rampage thingy. But I do use TJ's college adjuster to speed up the uni process. For some reasons, the uni process is a hell of a tiring task. My RL life experience is 100x more interesting than that (although I do 10x more homework than those sims...hell, don't remind me of the times I wrote my thesis. I lost 4-5 kg sleeping 4-5 hours everyday and forgetting to eat from all the stress overload).

We need better diseases, like ones which make them pee their pants all the time and die a slow, painful death. Sims deserve to suffer.

someone wants to resurrect vacation poopy pants?

I've seen a lot of that lately. Haven't had a sick sim in a long time, and then suddenly I had three different sims come home from work sick in the last week or so of playing, and they're not even in the same careers. Fortunately they all got well fast and didn't spread it, but sheesh!

Already exists -- Squinge has a bunch of mods that prevent bad behaviour, either entirely or only while the business is open (i.e., owner on the lot).  Check his section over on insiminator.net.

Shaklin's medicine cabinet also has an "immunise" option, which I used in my severely plagued Pleasantview. It was impossible to cure any other way since about 100 sims were afflicted. I use the immunisation with all sims now as soon as they hit childhood.

Can't you use debug to make a townie selectable and hold it hostage until it recuperates?

Now don't you all go groaning, here is a bit from my old TS2 prima guide on the contagious illnesses.  I've found this part to be quite accurate at least.

Cold - Symptoms = Coughing, Sneezing - Source = 1% chance of catching a cold anytime Sim goes to work or school. (It seems a higher chance to me?) - Contagious? = Highly - Potentially Fatal? = No, if left untreated becomes Pneumonia.
Flu - Symptoms = Coughing, Diarrhea - Source = Up to 5% chance if near roaches. - Contagious? = Highly - Potentially Fatal? = Yes
Pneumonia - Symptoms = Coughing, Fatigue - Source = Untreated Cold - Contagious? = Slightly - Potentially Fatal? = Yes
Food Poisoning - Symptoms = Vomiting, Nausea - Source = 5% chance when eating spoiled food - Non contagious but fatal if left untreated.
Virus - Symptoms = 2 random symptoms - Source = Mishandling of Virus created with Biotech Station with severity determined by Logic skill and manifested by darkness of the colour of the vial. - Contagious?= Highly - Potentially Fatal? = Yes.

I left out morning sickness because I think we all know how that one works.  I've also found the best way to cure my sims other than 3rd party downloads, is to make them sit or lie down all day.  Have them study from a book and take lots of bubble baths to keep comfort levels up, having them study books is also a good way to stop them wander around passing their germs onto other family members and visitors, though I tend to ban all visitors from a sick house. 

I remember there was supposed to be a random chance of getting sick from roaches, but in my experience, it seemed that it was closer to 100%. :(

Seems like 100% to me too Rainbow.

I've played Uni when I'm bored with other aspects of the game but after installing OFB [see, I got it right this time - old dogs can learn new tricks!] I have a different outlook because my YAs can now play around building crafty things in their "spare" time.  That's how Chloe Avio got her gold robotics badge before she graduated.  Problem is, she wants to be a Hall of Famer. 

Since when have sims been able to get diarrhea? They don't do any other toilet functions except pee, and, if pregnant or sick, vomit.

Damnit, sims should be able to poop like the rest of us! :P

Well, presumably, that's what brown puddles were for, but pooping was apparently dropped along with drinking, so sims never get thirsty either, even though you can see relics of that in the code.

Well they just need to use the loo more than usual, they don't seem to get the real 'runs'. (Thank goodness!)  What they really should have said was bladder drops faster.

Edit:  There really were brown puddles?  *EW!*

Well, in Sims 1, when the toilet got clogged, it always looked like it was full of brown crap.   :P

I can't even remember that, it's been way too long since I last played The Sims.

There's a lot I don't remember from playing The Sims, but for some reason, that one stuck with me.  :P

I remember that too.  It was a bit disgusting.  I also remember how you could not have any privacy in a bathroom, weither or not a Sim was on the can or in the shower did not matter and they did not needed to be friends to do that.  "Hi, are you busy, oh sorry your on the can... (Humm I wonder what I am doing here, it was obvious if my friend is in the bathroom that it is not there to listen to the TV!)"  I was so glad they fix this in Sims 2.

I always think it'd be great to see a hack for venereal diseases. LOL, I always think about the whorish sims in my neighborhood and wish there was some sort of price to pay for their promiscuity.  It only seems fitting that there should be a spreadable woohoo disease if there's a catchy flu virus .  Heehee, they could do the pee dance instead of hacking up a lung. ;)

Heh, I think so too- my Don Lothario sim should definately have something by now.

It would be really nice to have a marker on sick sims - like a different colour plumbob.  That way you could spot them on a community lot early enough to take action and avoid an outbreak. (quit without saving - tell them to leave or whatever) My Veronaville has been bugged by flu since before Christmas and I can't get rid of it.

I'm inclined to think the code is buggy anyway.  I've had two experiences that felt buggy.
1. kids bring home sick friend.  Say goodbye fast and my sims are fine.  Save.  Go play the friends lot, cure her and save.  go back to first lot and invite her over.  She's sick!
2.  3 sims are sick in the house.  Take the usual action and two get better quickly.  The other one doesn't. The first two catch it again and get sick.  Lie them all on the bed, first two are cured, the other one is still sick.  I know how to cure them, it just doesn't stick! 
Probably a cwykes problem as Pescado has said about other things!

I had a house with a gay couple and 5 kids (3 adopted, 2 from alien abduction) and one day one of them caught something and spread it to everyone else. Every time I got one of them better, the others would just reinfect them. I had to get Shaklin's medicine cabinet to get them all cured at the same time.

I think somebody needs to find a way to make sims immune to diseases they've already had.

HA HA HA Pescado! That picture is great!!


Okay, first, the plague carrier in the made neighborhoods... I can speak for Veronaville and it's Summerdream family. Delete them. They give the flu to everyone. OR.. give in and download the InSimenator and just go around healing everyone. Since I use the heck out of every mod I get, I don't mind a 'god mod'. http://www.insimenator.net (http://www.insimenator.net)

Second.. LOL!! Carrigon has a bed that gives your Sim an STD. LOL!! http://www.thesims2workshop.com/ (http://www.thesims2workshop.com/)

gads.. I love the Sims 2 Community!!

Ewww, STD's.  Everyone avoids the hell out of them in real life, poor poor Simmies.  :o

Heehee,
THanks for the link SimMoon....I checked out the bed by Carrigon, but the only problem is, the disease is not contagious, which takes all the fun out of it. :)
I was hoping she'd update it, but while reading the thread, I saw that she said she didn't want to put anymore time into it. Ah well, maybe I'll ask Shaklin. :)