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TS3/TSM: The Pudding => The World Of Pudding => Topic started by: Bajka on 2010 November 07, 16:33:03



Title: Frozen Sims
Post by: Bajka on 2010 November 07, 16:33:03
I don't know whether this problem was already mentioned here, I didn't find such a topic. So... My sims get frozen, they don't move, they don't get hungry etc. time isn't passing BUT the trees are still moving and I can hear music and other sounds. It started after installing 'Late Night'. I thought that somewhere in the neighborhood some sims were blocked or something, so I used 'radar all' to check it.
I found something strange:
http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/8085/41335316.jpg
and creepy :-X
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4041/70242271.jpg

I deleted these sims with click+shift, "objects...", "delete it" (I don't have a game in english, so I have no idea how it is in english) and for about an hour the game was ok, but now again... I looked for some 'blocked' sims in my neighborhood, but this time I found nothing.
Can anyone help me? I reinstalled the whole game, I have no mods (accept the awesome mod) and it still happens to my poor sims ;) Please help.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: Xianah on 2010 November 07, 16:52:32
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,18813.0.html


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 November 07, 22:43:57
For fuck sake.  Just because there isn't another topic called "Frozen Sims" doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed to death.  Well and truly documented and covered previously, just with a slightly different topic name.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: witch on 2010 November 08, 06:49:02
Yeah, but ESL though. Cut her some slack.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: jezzer on 2010 November 08, 15:47:11
ESL doesn't necessarily automatically mean difficulty with English comprehension and/or inability to search.  Her ESL is better than some EFL's around here.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 November 08, 23:58:18
Yeah, but ESL though. Cut her some slack.

Cutting slack for ESL goes as far as spelling, grammar and punctuation, but not to announce they couldn't find the exact same problem posted anywhere else, when they go on to describe what has been discussed in a full thread.  The Neverending Pause thread is about the same problem, the game hangs, time freezes, but the music keeps playing and the trees sway, etc.

The problem is people, ESL or not, tend to announce that they couldn't find the "exact" same problem because they use the term "frozen sims" while others use various different terms, such as "Stuck Sims", "Locked Game", "Frozen Game", etc, thus making their problem unique and different, when in reality it is the same as what has been covered already.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: soozelwoozel on 2010 November 09, 00:09:19
Yeah, but ESL though. Cut her some slack.

Cutting slack for ESL goes as far as spelling, grammar and punctuation, but not to announce they couldn't find the exact same problem posted anywhere else, when they go on to describe what has been discussed in a full thread.  The Neverending Pause thread is about the same problem, the game hangs, time freezes, but the music keeps playing and the trees sway, etc.

The problem is people, ESL or not, tend to announce that they couldn't find the "exact" same problem because they use the term "frozen sims" while others use various different terms, such as "Stuck Sims", "Locked Game", "Frozen Game", etc, thus making their problem unique and different, when in reality it is the same as what has been covered already.

Coming up with synonyms for your problem is difficult when it's not your first language.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 November 09, 00:25:27
Yeah, but ESL though. Cut her some slack.

Cutting slack for ESL goes as far as spelling, grammar and punctuation, but not to announce they couldn't find the exact same problem posted anywhere else, when they go on to describe what has been discussed in a full thread.  The Neverending Pause thread is about the same problem, the game hangs, time freezes, but the music keeps playing and the trees sway, etc.

The problem is people, ESL or not, tend to announce that they couldn't find the "exact" same problem because they use the term "frozen sims" while others use various different terms, such as "Stuck Sims", "Locked Game", "Frozen Game", etc, thus making their problem unique and different, when in reality it is the same as what has been covered already.

Coming up with synonyms for your problem is difficult when it's not your first language.

It can be just a difficult when it is your first language.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: AlexanderMorgan on 2010 November 09, 00:27:49
Yes, but this is a different problem, the pause is just a part of it.
I can see Pes already figured it out, as the awesome rabbit hole entry system is no longer an option in the config tool. I discovered this exact same problem with that option enabled with the test mod for LN. I guess EA finally improved the RH entrances? I can't tell for sure, but i think the option conflicted with the mod and gave a flagrant system error that would result in the exact situation as described in the first post. You'll have to re-load the game before the error first occured, otherwise sims will start to freeze randomly from that point on. At least, that's what i got in my case.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: Ellatrue on 2010 November 09, 01:05:28
I think it is understandable in any language, at least to a point. It can be difficult to think of the right terms, and even when using multiple synonyms, you may not get the right thread you need sometimes, or your terms might be buried so deep it isn't clear whether or not the thread is relevant. At least this person made an attempt at searching, although it's funny that they missed the topic on the very first page.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 November 09, 01:11:03
I can see Pes already figured it out, as the awesome rabbit hole entry system is no longer an option in the config tool. I discovered this exact same problem with that option enabled with the test mod for LN.
The system didn't survive the patching process, as EA had altered it. Since empirical experiments in the past showed it didn't provide significant benefits, and newer designed rabbitholes with more doors had made it unnecessary, it was jettisoned to reduce the maintenance overhead and finally removed from the config options.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: Bajka on 2010 November 09, 14:38:41
Quote
The problem is people, ESL or not, tend to announce that they couldn't find the "exact" same problem because they use the term "frozen sims" while others use various different terms, such as "Stuck Sims", "Locked Game", "Frozen Game", etc, thus making their problem unique and different, when in reality it is the same as what has been covered already.

Yes, thank you for reminding me that I forgot to write in the first message that my problem is unique and different, usually I'm not so stupid. WTF? I just did not find 'Neverending Pause', I'm sooo sorry, I will punish myself today, ok?


Anyway, thanks a lot for the link, I will read this topic and maybe find a solution...


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: witch on 2010 November 10, 04:10:03
Yes, thank you for reminding me that I forgot to write in the first message that my problem is unique and different, usually I'm not so stupid. WTF? I just did not find 'Neverending Pause', I'm sooo sorry, I will punish myself today, ok?

Don't go too hard at it on your lonesome, we enjoy punishing passive-aggressive bullshit.


Title: Re: Frozen Sims
Post by: jezzer on 2010 November 10, 15:10:51
Don't go too hard at it on your lonesome, we enjoy punishing passive-aggressive bullshit.

Just ask Aggie.