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Alright i've been searching around and i can't find a damn list anywhere that lists the deaths in sims 3.  So what ways are there to torture them?

Note: ^No Sims were horribly tortured and killed ^harmed in the making of this list.

Confirmed Deaths
Burning (Orange Ghost)
Works as always but daredevil sims cannot be killed with fire
Unlucky sims will be ressurected for the Grim Reaper's amusement

Drowning (Blue Ghost)
Still in they drown on empty energy for best results box in the pool
Unlucky sims will be ressurected for the Grim Reaper's amusement

Electrocution (Yellow Ghost)
Still in for best results sim must have low handiness or be standing a puddle
Unlucky sims will be ressurected for the Grim Reaper's amusement

Old Age (White Ghost)
Obviously but some sims live a VERY long time my longest was 118 days.  Can also be done by aging up with debug mode

Starvation (Pink Ghost)
Works fine but probably near impossible with the hardly hungry reward
Unlucky sims will be ressurected for the Grim Reaper's amusement

Obsolete Deaths
Death by Flies - Until proven otherwise
Food Poisoning

You can't make them die by food poisoning.  I tried this and the sim got nauseated for 3 hours and would run to the bathroom to puke.  After 2 hours, he was fine.   :( 

You can drown them  ;D

Just cancel the action.  ;)

I think electrocution is still in, although I haven't yet tried it. Why would it be taken out?

Until we have a sim twitching to death from massive voltage we can't assume its in we ARE talking about EAxis after all.



Are you sure?  I tried and they just kept swimming to the edge and getting out.

the first sim i made when i installed the game was electrocuted accidentally after about an hour of playing. had a cool ghost with electrical bolts flickering inside him.

I made a Sim with no handiness skill try to fix the dishwasher. He was electrocuted twice, the second time he died.

I also locked a Sim in a room with no door and starved him to death.

also fire.

i burned down the langerak house because they annoy me. they turn into piles of ash to be cleaned up, like in sims 2. turn into pretty orange ghosts.

I was going to say, my sim read in the paper about 3 occasions of sims dying by electrocution. It's still there, fearful to let my less-mechanical sims fix stuff.

Yup Im sure they can die. You have to bring their energy all the way down and they usually fall asleep :) Or you can starve them to death while in the pool. Haven't tested it myself but thats what EA said ;]

i just tested it by dragging their energy bar down via cheat while they were in the pool. they did indeed drown.

How odd, when i tried it, it didn't work.  I'll add it.

Have you seen the ghost yet?  I wonder if it is the starved ghost or a drown one.

Just tried drowning myself again it does indeed work but as i thought they still try to escape.  To keep them in the pool long enough to drown you need to box it in to prevent escape.

Ugh--I just went into the game to check electrocution for myself, but the lack of testingcheatsenabled object-breaking functions frustrated me.

Does anyone know if Death by Flies/ghost fright are obsolete?

the hygiene bar will be my next test. i'll edit if i get any results.

edit: he's been standing there with 0 hygiene for about 3 game days. nothing has happened. i think the intended punishment for this is that nobody will talk to him.

Please list the ghost color you get from the death as well.


It is indeed very annoying.  If you have a technophobe they can sabotage electronics.  Aside from that i don't think there's an easy way to break them.

Ghost fright produced pink ghosts in TS2, correct? There's a few of those wandering around the graveyard.

I didn't notice significant motive drop when my cowardly Sims encountered ghosts, however. They just fainted instead. (In one case, this was at the sight of her roommate's ghost baby, which she was present for the birth of. Can has memories back?)

OT: I kind of wish someone would start a thread like this for working cheat codes and extended info (for example, everything that is doable with testingcheats on). I just don't want to be the one to do it because I'm flaky and a shiny object will distract me from updating the top post properly.

I was hoping EA would come up with some more creative ways for sims to die.

EA only wants our money, they have no time to make us creative ways to kill our sims.

I'm slowly testing Death by Flies. On a related note, I'm hating the lack of difference in speed between Normal and Ultra Speed on my computer.

I did find out that the It's Dark moodlet is made of bork:
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc302/AnacinCross/simsnerdishness/TheSims3_2.jpg

I've heard anecdotal info that zooming in to ground level (i.e, making your system have to render as little as possible) will speed up the...speed.

I love the it's dark moodlet.   ;D

I suspect the fence is creating a new, unlit room, despite the fact that the light is actually penetrating.

Except both she and the window are within the fenced area.

Except that it appears to be night.

Hook

Right... I totally knew that.

* InsanityPrelude shuts up.

Well, to be fair, it was nighttime, the streetlight right outside her home notwithstanding.

Was there a glitch in TS2 where light couldn't pass through custom fences or something, or am I just going mad from watching an insane, unlucky, hydro/technophobic, grumpy Sim stand in several plates of rotting food?

Maximillian, if she's just standing there, she's unlikely to trigger death by flies.  In Sims 2 it was triggered by Sims stepping OVER trash on the floor.  Make her walk back and forth.  If she never steps over something, I'm betting death by flies won't happen.  If she does, then just keep going.

I don't know if plates of food would trigger death by flies in TS2. I was only able to get it with trash piles.

Hook

he's been standing here with no hygiene, fun, or social for a good week in-game. he has full red mood with all negative moodlets. i keep his hunger and energy up a little so he doesn't die that way.

leads me to believe there's no general death by bad mood/stress.


(http://i43.tinypic.com/a0ja0p.jpg)

I confirm it. I was checking if it worked... It did. :D

Purpose:
The presence of Death by Flies in TS3 will be determined.
Same with the amount of free time on my hands.

Materials:
'Foul/Putrid/Horrifying' quality Autumn Salads and Waffles I found in the fridge
Gratuitous trash from rummaging
Stinky cheese, because aren't there supposed to be rats in this game somewhere?
The Corridor of Gaudy Flydeath
Our unwilling volunteer, Avengine Masters (Figure 1 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc302/AnacinCross/simsnerdishness/Screenshot-220.jpg))

Design:
independent variable: hygiene level (some bugs prefer Squeaky Clean people) - generally kept near empty as the subject kept urinating herself
constants: depleted Social/Fun, low Hunger/Energy/Bladder
                no light/windows
                roof
                no Free Will

Procedure:
i. Corridor of Gaudy Flydeath was filled with a (un)healthy amount of trash and rotting plates (Figure 2 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc302/AnacinCross/simsnerdishness/Screenshot-245.jpg))
ii. Subject was placed inside the Corridor
iii. Subject was made to walk back and forth (thanks Hook) across the corridor until death or the observer's boredom (Figure 3 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc302/AnacinCross/simsnerdishness/Screenshot-248.jpg))

Observations:

-subject's traits are: Insane, Unlucky, Hydrophobic, Technophobe (no, not Technophobic--that would be grammatically correct), Grumpy
-during the experiment, the subject recieved an opportunity to 'Deliver 4 Very Nice Harvestables to Wertz Hangover'
-although outside the scope of this experiment, the subject's ability to urinate projectiles was observed (Figure 4 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc302/AnacinCross/simsnerdishness/TheSims3_3.jpg) - annotated in the name of Science)
-subject was unable to succumb to energy desperation in the one tile-wide corridor
-subject did not wish for ESCAPE FROM THIS CRUEL AND UNETHICAL HELL, but to 'Get a Raise' and 'Go to the Spa'
-at one point, the subject actually CAUGHT A BLOODY FLY AND ATE IT (Figure 5 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc302/AnacinCross/simsnerdishness/Screenshot-246.jpg)) because she is completely bollocksing insane and in hunger desperation

Conclusions:

-Death by Flies is either obsolete in TS3, or else so aggravatingly hard to witness that the chances of seeing it in the course of regular gameplay are akin to those of EAxis making a respectable successor to TS2 in terms of...well, ways to die.


Feel free to prove me wrong. I miss FlyDeath.  :(

Ahh now that's what you call science.  To be honest i always thought death by flies was hard to get in sims 2.  Death by flies will be listed as obsolete until proven otherwise.

Heh!!  Who said this game wasn't fun? :D

Hook

There is no death by flies. Sims can only die in the most generic ways, by starving, drowning, burning, or possibly being electrocuted. They can also be killed by Story Mode.

Figures they would have less death types than in the original TS2.  Although story mode is a new one hehe.

I've been able to kill sims with drowning (blue watery ghost), fire (orange-red ghost), starvation (purple-pink ghost), and old age (white-sparkly ghost).
Unlucky sims cannot be killed by the first three (fire, water, starvation), well they can be killed but the stupid Grim Reaper resurrects them for his amusement.
It is really hard to kill a sim with fire, I made a 3x3 room with lit fireplaces in 7 of the 9 tiles, put a chair in the middle, and used the largest carpet (with moveobjects on cheat). Sims can't die by fire while sitting, they have to stand up, thus the 7 of 9 tiles with fireplaces.
I've had one sim last 3 sim days before starving :/ in a box.
Really easy to kill with water, just box in the pool and wait for them to tire.
You can use the testingcheatsenabled cheat to "age up" sims to old-age death.

My first sim had a fairly high mechanical rating and was upgrading a stove... while standing in a puddle from a leaky faucet.  He got electrocuted and died 4 times in a row.  But the grim reaper kept letting him not die.  I dunno if that was because he was my only sim in the household or if it was because I had planted a death flower... or most likely just good luck.  (Or maybe it was because he had the unlucky trait... as the message kept saying something about how the grim reaper would let me live because my sim f*ing up was humorous to him.  Don't remember the exact message).  After the 4th attempt and immediate death I realized that standing knee deep in water probably wasn't a good time to stick my metal screwdriver into the nearest socket.

Anyway, I think you CAN kill off sims with high handiness through electrocution if you have them repair/upgrade electrical items while standing on a puddle.

Alright i added the stuff thanks guys.  It looks like unlucky sims can die from anything except old age and be ressurected.

What was the color of the ghost before the grim reaper resed him? I've never had anyone die from electrocution, mainly because they are typically handy, and it would be hard to test for it :/. I dunno if it's relevant, but instead of having LTW on the tombstone, it is now how they died. Ghosts and their children USUALLY carry around tombstones, but I've had two spawn that were born without one.

Oh, and you can't kill ghosts the way they died originally. I've only tested it with starvation ghosts though, they wouldn't die of starvation even when I moved the bar to empty.

I don't remember the color... but I do remember that I was given the ability to interact with the grim reaper during my brief ghostly state.  (although nothing much happened since the grim reaper was too busy not killing me)  I tried to recreate it with a sim that wasn't unlucky.  He had 1 handiness skill to start with... tinkered with a stove while standing in a puddle until he was level 3 and never got zapped.  My unlucky sim had died immediately.

So... I'm guessing only unlucky sims die that way... or at least sims that don't have the unlucky trait very rarely die from tinkering while standing in a puddle.  Which is really too bad.

About this electrocution matter. I had a set of stereos break down and my sim with max handiness tried to fix them. He got electrocuted but didn't die, so I tried to make him fix them again and this time he got electrocuted fatally. Looks like even max handiness may not save your sims from frying to death.

I finally killed a sim via electrocution. It's really easy if you have a technophobe sim in the household who can sabotage electrical items. Then you have the sim who is going to repair the object wet themselves and then attempt the repair while standing in their puddle.

Here is a picture of all the ghosts :P. From the left to right, Electrocution, Starvation, Drowning, Fire, and Old Age.
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4535/screenshot8k.th.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8k.jpg)

In Sims 2 as far as i know you could still get killed at max mechanical but it was extremely unlikely.  I assume it's the same thing with sims 3.  Since the only time i've ever had someone get electricuted repeatedly was with low skill.


Haha nice work, truly nice work.

ROFFLE.  :D
Heh. Well played, gumby.

tried scaring a sim to death??just a random thought

You cannot kill ghost sims. They cannot starve to death, feel the effect of flames(they don't even get the "on fire" moodlet), or be electrocuted fatally(instead of being electroced fatally, the tile they are standing on bursts into flames), or drown (they get the "drowning" moodlet, but it goes away after a while, like they just got bored of drowning :/). They can however "return to netherworld" by clicking on the tombstone in their inventories, or they can die of oldage. Dying of oldage isn't excatly dying of oldage, they just "lose their connection to this realm" or something like that.

Here are the five tombstones. Some pre-dead sims have better ones, like Erik Darling (Mrs. Crumblebottom's lover).
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7716/screenshot8u.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8u.jpg)

Tried using your Shift key to make capital letters? Just a random thought.

Do ghosts persist between "saves"?  Given that the new game seems to strongly discourage any interaction between player-made sim families, I wonder if even ghosts stay on a lot if I sacrifice them all and then move another CAS family in...

In what way does the game discourage interaction between CAS families? Much of the game's strength, IMO, comes from the fact that it is so much easier to interact with different families that I've created.

Really?  I can't even see other family "saves" on the map...  Maybe this is caused by tight pants issues.  I will poke around.

Well, if you're giving each family its own save, then no, you won't see them.  I just play families until I'm done/bored with them and then abandon them to their own devices elsewhere in the neighborhood.  In my current game, I'm on Gen 2, who happily go and see their parents whenever I want to check to make sure they (the parents) haven't spawned any new offspring.  They seem to be behaving themselves so far.

Famous last words. I said that when I left my first gen home, thinking that with one spawn there the second gen kids would be happy. A week later, I returned to find someone pregnant. The next week, there's a teen, a toddler, and yet another baby (who didn't even have a place to sleep).

Good luck with that.  I left a couple of ghost sims resident at the Goth household, to prevent anyone moving in & spawning there (I may want to play the lot later).  So Gunther's ghost went and married Lolita's ghost and had a ghost child while my back was turned.

In the meantime, Morty Goth's ghost (on another lot) has adopted 3 (non-ghost) spawn.  I was waiting until the first one was past the baby/toddler stage before I was going to go back there to play the lot, since playing the "potty train/teach to talk/teach to walk" game is boring and so is the "bring the baby to the cake then put it on the floor so it can grow up then stomp everyone's queue to make them eat cake" dance, but then he goes and adopts a second baby before I realised that the first toddler was now a 6.  Then he did it again while I was waiting for the second toddler to reach childhood.

I believe this is as good a place as any to ask this question, especially since it does pertain to the death of a sim, specifically, a townie. My sim received the opportunity to deliver the remains of a "beloved" to the science lab to have it analyzed, and while she was the first generation and didn't have any tombs or remains of a beloved on lot, I didn't think it was a problem. The next day I have my sim call up one of her lovers and I promptly locked the townie in a doorless room and intended of have her starve to death. A full sim week later, she's still alive. I had chosen starvation because I wouldn't be able to have the townie be electrocuted, drowned or set on fire as I'm sure I had read that once a townie was "selected" than you can't unselect it? Anyways, so I thought starvation would do the trick, but as I said, it didn't.

I just couldn't get this sim to die, so I expanded her box and put in a fireplace, some rugs and flammable side tables. Every thing catches fire quite nicely, but the fire doesn't seem to get an bigger than say, 5 by 5 tiles. The fire would move to burn other pieces of furniture, but never spread and simply get bigger. Even with moveobjects on I filled the entire box with tables thinking that the townie wouldn't be able to move around and thusly escape the fire, well I was wrong. The townie would shriek and dance and pee herself, but managed to evade being caught of fire every single time. The rugs caught fire at least five times, and even after another sim week, the townie is still alive. I never had this much trouble killing off sims in TS2. I figured that perhaps the townie had food in her pockets and was eating that? Sometimes she would get the "OMG FEED ME NAO!" bubble over her head, but has yet to kick the bucket. What the hell is going on?

I also want to mention an annoyance with fire. As soon as a fire starts, all sims on the lot drop whatever they're doing to stand around and worry their pixally little hearts out, never mind that it's not even in the same building. I can't cancel out the "FIRE!" action and tell them to go back to sleep, or use the toilet, or anything. After the fifth fire this was starting to become very annoying.

Not sure why you're having so much trouble killing an NPC, the only one I tried to kill was the papergirl because she always kicked my flamingos.  Unfortunately she just teleported out of the prison room I made for her.  As for the opportunity, you can just go to the graveyard and pick up one of the tombstones.  Just remember, whoever you pick will become a playable ghost living in your house.

I can happily report that 6s are fully mortal. I drowned a 6 neighbor because her number came up (story progression has nothing on me). She died just like any other sim.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm just balking at the thought of playable ghosts, though. Argh, Eaxis! *shakesfist*

The "Singed" moodlet specifically says that you shouldn't electrocute them again while they're still singed.  So I think the second shock is usually fatal if you haven't washed the first one off in the shower.

 - Gus

Anyone try burning down an entire street yet?Hope we can get a "Start fire here" menu like we have with the Insim for Sims 2,lol. Ok, lets start a fire across the street,then onto the next house, and so forth............Sims Wildfire!

Doubt it is possible unless some makes some hack, Pyromaniacs can start fires, but typically it goes out too quickly and only stays on one tile.

True, but seeing a pic or vid of an entire street on fire and seeing the simmies running around bonkers would be a gas.......no offense to anyone who actually has had this experience.

My Sim was fatigued from working out.  I had him hop into the pool to go swimming.  He died fairly quickly with all his motives in green.  A moodlet popped up about not being able to breath under water and needing air, but he happily just kept swimming.  He never attempted to leave the pool and seemed quite content to swim around.  When the timer on the moodlet reached zero he drowned.