More Awesome Than You!

As we all know, the BBS is home to a wealth of information, just waiting for anyone brazen/thickheaded/naive of better places enough to look.

So, what have we all learned from the BBS?  I'll start off...


-Any problem can be fixed by doing the following:
--Installing an updated video driver.
--Deleting all your custom content.
--Reinstalling the game and starting over from scratch.

-If all else fails, download a video card!  Er, as soon as you find out from the BBSers who are so much brighter than you where you can download one of these all-powerful items.

-Hacks and mods are evil.  And yes, they are out to get you, having been specially made to make your computer explode.
--The first thing you should do if you even SUSPECT you have a hack is reinstall the game.

-No doubt about it, a hack has a greater chance of making your game explode than does the latest expansion pack.  Even though, ironically, more people seem to gripe about the latest expansion pack making their game explode than do people gripe about hacks doing this.

-Meshes are also evil.  Especially if you don't know what they are.

-Any custom content that doesn't have Maxis' seal of approval emblazoned across it is evil, too, and will cause your game to explode.
--Of course, the only way to deal with THIS is to re-install your game.

Any problem can be solved by pointing and laughing?

Will not reinstall game unless there is no other option to do so espesilly if the HD was formatted because it wasnt working or had a major break down. Boy are some people stupid and they dont know what they are talking about. As for hacks most of them are useful and fix problems with in the game that Maxis have not or no Idea about.

-If you're asking for assistiance, the proper way to title your thread is "HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!"  After all, it gets a Maxoid's attention every time.

-Benes are like fishing bait.  If you dangle them on a hook, you get a lot of juicy suckers.

-The real Bella Goth is in a galaxy far, far away with her alien lover.  Er, no, she's been murdered and you can see her if you meditate in front of her painting.  No!  She's a burglar and she'll appear if you buy the...

-Although the fact that expansion packs come out six months apart on the dot, there is a strange time-distortional effect that actually makes it so that each expansion pack takes noticably longer than the last to be released.
--Of course, anyone with actual brains will tell you that it's the whining 13-year-olds who created this time-distortion in the first place...

You misspelled it, goofball ;) The correct spelling is HLLLLEEEEPPPPP MEEEEE!!!!!111111

Rofl  and dont forget you will find your computer lying on your desk in a million pieces of melting plastic and smoking metal if you dare to even think of a Fix for a bug that isnt made by Maxis I learned that from the BBS on my first trip there

LOL... (ouch, made my ribs hurt) ;D ;D

You mean the fix isn't made by Maxis, or the bug isn't made by Maxis? ;D

Case in point, if you have time.....

Back before the sims1 patch came out, I was experiencing (or my sims were experiencing) the jump bug.  I didn't have internet access, so I didn't know this was a bug, and I phoned the UK helpline, where I was told my characters were corrupted and I should just ditch them and reinstall.  Well, I did the reinstall, but luckily I saved the game folders elsewhere, then less than a week later, finally back on-line, and I found out immediately I went to SF that the patch was out, downloaded it and hey-presto, problem solved - but not till after about 3-4 quids' worth of phonecalls to the twits who hadn't a clue!

I've learned from the BBS not to visit the BBS.

Most useful lesson evah.

Unless you want to be told how to sort your game out by a thirteen-year-old in words of one (mis-spelled) syllable!

Well we've definitely learned how dense wool can be ;)

Particulartly cottonwool!

Two things I am thankful to the BBS for:

1. I don't have to buy the Prima guides because some schmuck will type the whole thing out if you offer them "benes"

2. Being directed by a couple of the intelligent posters there (so few of them) to sites that really have helped me: MTS2, Various Simmers, Snooty Sims, Simlogical, and last but certainly not least, MATY. 

I directed someone to MTS2  and got banned from the BBS for 3 days heaven forbid you direct any one there for a censor mod for nightlife that works.guaranteed to get you banned for at least 3 days and any other site that makes fxes for game issues including MATY.. when I saw the sorry you are banned until 10.12/2005 at 12:00 A.M PST message I ROFL. because I knew it was my daring to direct someone to MTS2 for Quaxi's censor removal blur in nightlife

ONe thing I just learned is if you havent had any problem with those evil nannies, go buy an ep and get yourself a nanny bug! 

good grief  :P who wants the evil nanny ???I went and got a hack that gives me  a sitter instead,much better than a nanny and doesnt get stuck like the nannies or pull nasty pranks on the employers and has great interaction with the toddlers and babies.thank goodness foer the person who made the sitter hack it overwrites the Nanny so that option isnt available anymore but when my sim calls the sitter they get a menue of st least three option if they dont know anyone yet more if they have met neighbors already all you do is click one of the faces that shows up in the menu and  they appear instantly. and no social worker  warning with the sitter either. and My sims can leave for work on time without having to be late or miss work if they still carpool waiting for the evil nanny to appear.

And that sitter hack would be called what and found where....?
I really prefer to use elders, but some elders have too many adult children so they can't sit for all of them. I really would like a non-elderly sitter for some of my homes: a teen would be perfect. It would be nice if in the Business EP, teens could work as sitters on your lots and earn money for college.

If its one thing I've learned its that Strangetown Bella is compareable to the Anti-Christ.  She is pure evil and should be killed by any means necessary the very moment she walks by your house.  And she is SO FAKE!  Really, you just shouldn't socilize with her at all.

Goopy is the same way, but to a lesser extent.  The same goes for Marsha.

Oh yeah, and there IS a twins cheat.  Maxis is just being a big meanie and won't tell us what it is.   :( 

I like nannies.  They clean.  And sometimes they set themselves on fire with baked alaska.

[quote author=simmiecal link=topic=1015.msg35937#.And that sitter hack would be called what and found where....?
I really prefer to use elders, but some elders have too many adult children so they can't sit for all of them. I really would like a non-elderly sitter for some of my homes: a teen would be perfect. It would be nice if in the Business EP, teens could work as sitters on your lots and earn money for college.
[/quote]I got it at Mod the sims 2 and its listed under game hacks I have the NL version but there is a version for those with out NL

LOL those nannies are amusing and unpredictable if nothing else. ;) And I've had some seriously messed up ones all the way back to the original out of the box game with no patches or addons so they've always been like that in my game.

Nannies have their good and bad points.  They do clean and will sort of take care of one infant or toddler.  They're completely useless if they're trying to take care of twins.  And the amount of food they leave to rot on the counter is just atrocious, and since they have high cooking skills it's usually the most expensive food.

Now to the BBS: I've learned that no matter what Maxis does or says, it's 'NOT FAIR!'

I've also learned that when the first little glitch (could even be *gasps* user caused) happens with a new expansion pack, even though the player's been waiting months for this expansion and has been posting on the expansion pack board like rabid fiends, this expansion pack is suddenly 'THE WORST EXPANSION EVER!!!!!!!!'

the sitter I have hired also clean and cook automously but never the less they do clean if they walk into a messy house. plus they charge less money 50 simoleans a flat fee no matter how long they are there and unlike the nannies they dont go off the job until an adult is home .I ve had nannies leave an hour before parents arrived home from work with toddlers and babies in the house ??? and still charge the entire fee for leaving way too early of course my poor sim parent had their babies and toddlers taken by the Social worker just minutes before arriving home from work >:(.the sitter  stays after the parents get home from work as a visitor so no more stuck nannies in my houses either my sim simply says goodbye and the sitter leaves

heaven forbid the user be the one glitching their own game on the BBS nope can't Happen  its all Maxis fault  according to the BBS . they are supposed to patch user caused errors and glitches. the posters on the BBS have taught me Never ever go there for help.

Do let us all in on the secret, Muisie!  Where do we get this hack?????

I'm assuming it's Danny's from valdea.com. Either that or he just turned a nanny into a teen, which I've done before, but then they pretty much still act like nannies minus the back rubbing, old lady bellyaching and orthopedic underwear.

Um, you're thinking of Bagelnuts.  My nanny is on fire, remember?

ROFL!

I believe the sitter mod is dizzy's, I think the thread is called "sitter if"

I think...go look. I cant right now, something about MTS2 being a gaming site.  ::)


doh its called sitter 1f
Dizzy says it works with all EP and nonep
I havent tried it but it looks like a pretty good alternative to the nannie

If you scream something to the effect of "HELP! GIVE U TKONENS OF EVILLL!!!!" you'll get even more help than if you'd offered cash. Of course, none of it will be right, but at least they're not beating you up to take your cash.

it  is called sitter 1f at Mod the sims2 its in testing right now but it works great ;D  it isnt Danny's DMA. I had that and didnt like it so I took it out of my game . this is an entirely different hack .I just used it and had my sim call a sitter for his toddler. I had him call a sim who normally delivers groceries .Steven Wolsenko I think is the guys name or it might be Mitch those two look alike

I used to hate the nanny because of the peeing on the floor and the setting on fire, but then once when the parents weren't home at 6pm, she turned a baby into a toddler with none of that stupid standing around that usually happens with actual parents, so now I am willing to let her live, but I do wish she would go home when she is supposed to.

It took me a while, but I think I figured out why the parents sometimes have problem with the birthday thing.  I found it by forcing the transition with the birthday cake.

It seems that when the problem crops up, it's because the infant has a low motive, either hunger, bladder or energy.  If you feed the baby a bottle, then wait just a little bit 9 times out of 10 it'll have a messy diaper.  Once the diaper's changed the age transition generally occurs smoothly.

There's nothing like having the baby age transition with the birthday cake, and then have the poor person holding said toddler getting wet on! LOL  It's happened to my sims more than once. ;)

Y'all, laugh while you can.  Someday, kids like those on the BBS will be changing our Depends.   ;) :o :'(

Only if we end up in really bad nursing homes.

Hook

Unless I missed it, you forgot the Golden BBS Toubleshooting Rule:

If all else fails, your computer sucks and you need to buy a new one.

I figured that one out some time ago. It's bloooody annoying.

Now that I have Merola's mirror I can use that to select the baby and check it's motives and figure out what's wrong so I can fix it.

Methinks you're giving them too much credit.  It's my opinion that they'll STILL be at the BBS, whining about how the latest expansion pack for Sims 11 was the WORST EXPANSION EVER!!!!!!!!!111111

Ive never had nanny problems before but recently every time I call one to track my schedule they come over immediately and (one occassion 4 were sent most duplicates) and I didnt realize it until I started dismissing one and then there she was again .  She didnt come the next day at the right time either but the kids were fine no social worker. Im like huh? what is this?  Fired her and tried again...they cant track correctly now for some reason. no biggie I hate them anyway.

how could we possibly forget that one. somehow we manged to forget the BBS's most common solution fork out tons of money for something you dont need ie video cards ,new hard drives  and new computers. and of course the other rule we forgot was the only viable solution to sims problem is consult the BBS technical help section written by the same people who told us our computer sucks

And even though they still specify 256MB RAM on the pack, they'll tell you that even though you have a gig, it's just not enough!

No way!  Syera'll be changing my Depends!  She's my daughter!  ;D

ROFLOL! 

Or Sims III Holographic!

A someone has already said: Never go to the BBS.

When I was a naive young(er) simmer, I ventured out to the official boards without any knowledge of what awaited me, bravely (as it transpired) and ill-equipped for the depth of sewage. If I had known that you require an aqualung, flippers and drysuit, I would never dared go there! Five minutes left me breathless and starved of oxygen...any longer would have required rescusitation. Ah me... the dangers of deep bull diving.  :D

Like sky-diving without a parachute into a pool of raw sewage?

The bbs is good for something though. If you ever have a bad day, go to the bbs, read a couple of posts and you'll feel so much better about yourself. When I started school again, I felt like the stupid kid, but then I went to the good old bbs and now know I will never be stupid because that is stupid at its finest. ;D

And your spelling is obviously a cut above theirs!

Things I've learned from the BBS: That no matter how clearly I state a problem or question and say that I haven't any hacks, custom content or do not use *gasp* broolprop, these things will always be to blame for what the problem is, because I MUST have them installed and have used boolprop with wild abandonment. The game/EA/Maxis itself is never to blame for any problems that might creep up, it must be something I have done. ::)

Ugh them and their "boolprop" paranoia.  >:( First of all, it's debug mode, or testingcheatsenabled. It's NOT friggin boolprop! boolprop is just a boolean property, which is just a code property that can only be either true or false. There's lots of 'boolprop's. boolprop constrainfloorelevation true/false, boolprop allow45degreeangleofrotation true/false, boolprop dormspecifictoolsdisabled true/false etc/etc.

Second, it's not a virus, it will not make your computer explode, if it gives you an error message there may in fact not be anything major going on other than a hiccup or sim getting stuck or other normal situation that the game would normally fix on its own automatically and you would never be the wiser.

It's just a debug mode so the designers could set up certain situations quickly like make a sim a vampire without having to be friends with one etc etc so they don't have to spend hours playing to test certain features out.

Yes it can potentially mess up your game, but you know what? The game can (and has for me at times!) get pretty darned messed up on its own even if you never turn on the debug mode and never downloaded any custom content whatsoever. Always backup your neighborhood regularly regardless, but I have used "boolprop"  ::) many, many times and guess what? My game still runs and my computer did not go down in a big ball of flames.

/rant

BTW this wasn't directed at you specifically Kelly but rather at the "boolprop" paranoia I've read over at the BBS.

Truthfully when I first got the game back in February and then found the BBS, I was terrified of using "boolprop" after reading all the "boolprop ruined my game" threads. It wasn't until I found VS and then followed JM here that I began to have an understanding of what it actually was and what's it uses were. It annoys me that that kind of paranoia and misinformation is allowed to run rampant on the BBS...even more then the twincheats and Bella rumours.

I used to be terrified of hacks. and "boolprop". But eventually my curiousity got me to MTS2 where I found Pescado's novelprogresbar hack and well that had been one of my biggest annoyances that you couldn't see how far they were along on their novel. So downloaded it and it worked great and didn't make my game explode./ So that more or less cured my terror of hacks.

As for the debug cheat I eventually found a tutorial and learned what NOT to do and then I used it a few times (got Lazlo Curious abdcuted, and a few other things) and now I am still cautious about it but I'm not paranoid about it.

I'll admit, the testingcheats isn't something with which I'm real comfortable and just the past week even started using, and that was because I found out the new NPC maker's in there! LOL  I tend to trust the hacked objects which are made by people who'll do the same thing as the testing cheats because I trust their programming more than I trust myself with that command.  Even so, for the most part it's been very trouble free.  I've done a few things cautiously and haven't gone trying to figure out what every option is for.  If I get that curious I'll do it in my testing neighborhood.

And all this discussion about the testing cheats reminded me of something else I learned on the BBS, the flip-side of the paranoia about testing cheats:  if something goes wrong with your game, no matter what it is, you can fix it with 'boolprop'!

Today I have learned that when you want to advertise something you should put it in every section and spell it terribly and spam up the whole board. I didnt know that. Also curse words make great user names.

Actually, if you go back you'll find those are good examples of what not to do.  Those accounts will be banned and the spam will be cleaned up.  If the BBS has one upside it's the moderators, even if some of them do get a little trigger happy occasionally. ;)

ditto on the moderators getting a bit trigger happy at times. I learned by being banned for 3 days never ever direct a bbs'er to another website for  a hack or a mod that answers their specif ic want or need instead tell them to do an internet search  :P even though enter nightlife censor disabler will get you zero results when you google it that are useful.Your search for "Sims2 nightlife censor disabler" returned no results. case in point this is the result I got when I googled for a censor blur disabler. but thats what your supposed to tell BBS's readers to do an internet search ;D

That ferretlance1 + ferretlance2 = ferretfun

Creating a legend is easy.

The world is in very grave danger.

I learnt that "yuor not suposd 2 us geek talk on teh intrent". By that, they mean things like grammar, correct spellings and punctuation.

LOL! Seriously?

What is bene or benes?

I presume it doesn't have it's original meaning "blessing"!

It's supposed to be a rating system. If someone posts something that you find helpful or "bene"ficial then you can press a little button to vote the post as being "bene"ficial. In theory, someone who is helpful and posts a lot of good information will have a high bene rating. Unfortunately, it becomes a popularity contest over on the official BBS and the ratings are meaningless: people that post often (but give bad info) or offer to type out the Prima guide may have high bene ratings even though they haven't really added anything constructive to the community.

Did I help you? Give me a bene.  ;D  ::)

AAARRRGGGGGHHH! Head will explode if I see more of that crap...!  >:( Why, why, why, why, why?

And yup, Z.Z., that's the one. Bull diving analogous to sky diving.  ;)

I've learned that things are always my fault.  I did it.  It's not the game because 5 people will answer and say, "I don't have that problem."  Also, Maxis and EA are never at fault.  "Don't you know how hard it is to make a game?"  "Don't you know difficult it is to make a patch?" and the new one, "They can't give away the new mini expansion pack for free, they need the money!!"

Ever since the outcry over the "we don't think we need to release a University patch. It's a very open game, and is difficult to test" thing a few months back, I've noticed large numbers of BBSers repeat it incessantly. Bug reports? "Don't you know teh game is reeeelly hard to test? YOU try testing it and see how hard it is, meanie". Enquiries about patches? "Teh game is very open and its too hard to test everything, stfu already about it and reinstall your game".

 ::)

... Yeah, EA are really hurting for cash.  I expect to be dodging a guy collecting for empoverished game designers in the CBD any day now.

Please, everyone knows that if they needed the money that badly they'd have released the Halloween pack.

My sentiments exactly, Motoki.  People referring to this code simply as "boolprop" drives me nuts!  If you're going to call it anything, "testingcheats" is much more descriptive and actually reflects the command you're talking about, unlike "boolprop," which could refer to any number of commands.

Oh..I just boolproped  a new sim for my family! ;D ;D  (ducks and runs out of the room)   Oh I do have a stupid question though-who is Nectere and why is it stupid? (he\she)

I quite often boolprop a diagonal sofa! ;D ;D

Not if I throw my own poop at them first

I don't visit the BBS oftin.  A few months after I got the game, I found a couple of foarms I liked better. 

Hehheheh... ;D ;D

Nectere is a user here.  JM often puts the name of people who leave the chat room before he can "kick" them first in the News box.  Inge's name was up there for a long time as well as someone else I can't remember right now.  Sometimes it will not change for days.

Katze was stupid for weeks! I was stupid for two days, I think, a while back. And Inge is often a round mound of grey...something.  :P

Thanks for the explanation. i thought it was some sort of humiliating punishment. ;D

I don't think I've joined the privileged few yet, in spite of a lot of lip-ripping!

Fatness, that's what it was.  :D  YAHSRR (Yet another Homestar Runner Reference).

Anyone know how to hack into NEWSBOX?  Then you people could leave a retaliatory message!

That car in your avatar keeps making me think of that Stephen King book about that Buick.

I don't know about the book - the car in my avatar is a Zephyr Zodiac ( a Ford car from the 1960s).

Oh is that where your nickname came from.  I've always wondered.  I never put the car together with your avi, but then I wasn't born until a decade later. ;)

Im about the same age as that car..I cant remember the exact title but for some reason it reminded me of that book. Buick was in the title- it was some sort of transport machine (living thing actually) to another dimension and it sent weird oddities to earth and killed a few people.

but if you need the bene button around here you have to take a difficult test that includes questions about elephants prefered sleepeing attire and such. ;)

I learned quite a lot about gameplay early on from the BBS -   Pinstar's ghost posts spring to mind and there was a thread on cooking and headmaster bug.... 

I used search. Now there's a lost art!  does anybody  EVER search for anything?  or read the stickies?

The technical help stickies were also useful when I tried to help people with install problems.  As for bugs - I found out they existed and where to go for the real info.  Headmaster bug took me to MTS2 then variousimmers then here.

I want the bad button back!  Give me nege!

Ah, reminds me of my favorite BBS quote. "Noone MEANS to download a hacK!!!1"

THAT is gold.    ::)

Actually, not consciously.  I had a sims1 family called Zodiac (the neighbourhood was based on starsigns and other astrological stuff) and the first member of the family was Zephyr Zodiac because it sounded good - I suppose the car was somewhere in my subconscious, though.  Anyway, when I first registered at TheSims.com I had to think up a screen name fast, and my mind went blank until I suddenly thought of using one of my sims' names!  and that was the first one that came into my head.

We had a Zephyr Zodiac, when I was a child, as the family car. It was, as I recall, a silver monster of a thing. Ah, random thought... sorry.  ;)

Wasn't the Zephyr originally from Lincoln?  Or am I thinking about something from the 1930's?  I'm way too fat and lazy to look it up.

Here's what I've learned from the BBS, and I consider it important:  When a game has a sufficiently large and diverse audience, the official BBS will eventually be overrun by total idiots and become unreadable.

Hook

And the idiots will claim the moral highground, establishing idiocy as the only appropriate world view, and dumb down all discourse, so that anyone who is not an idiot will be attacked and abashed and made to feel ostracized because intelligence will be made to seem socially unacceptable. The BBS gave me valuable insight into the attitudes of indulged teenagers who think that everyone deserves a bene and 5 stars all the time because ratings systems are clearly only there so that everyone can be rated "excellent".

you hit the nail on the head. and now over in retardo land we have those same overindulged kiddies showing up to complain and cry that we here at MATY do nothing except poke fun at the posters on the BBS

Ain't it the truth?  What's worse is, the intelligent posters will eventually find someplace else to post leaving the field to the idiots.

Any time there's a "bene" system in effect, there will be people begging for them.  It encourages some pretty low behavior.  I didn't get to be the second Supreme Social Sim (after Pinstar1161, creator of the Legacy Challenge) by begging for benes.  I got it by reseaching the heck out of the game and writing up what I'd found.  The only time my signature even *mentioned* benes was right after Christmas when we got an influx of new people who needed to be educated that there was a bene system in place. 

I guess the whole effect of the bene system is something else I learned from the BBS.

Hook

The bene system to me is futile as people give out bene's over nothing .I rarely ever give bene's or sign guest books .perhaps thaat's why I am still after almost  2 years on the BBS a tongue tied tourrist .and community rank of pollination technician.

The name of the book of Stepen King you are referring too is "Christine" that devil car.  Maybe I should rent the movie been a long time since I saw it...

Actually I think the book you are referring to is "From a Buick 8" by Stephen King. If I recall correctly, Christine was a '50s model Ford.

Oh yes sorry, it would make more sense too lol

You are right. I am reading that book right now. I love Stephen King. :)

I learned from the BBS that it is very difficult to learn anything at all from the BBS, unless you use the Search Tool and sort by Highest Rated.
Even then, the results are somewhat dubious. :-\

dont forget rarely if ever does a question ever return an answer with out ranting and raving about how the new expansion pack is a bunch of bugged trouble and the worst ever.

In the beginning, I found the BBS pretty useful and helpful. I realised it all was going downhill when the "What should I name my sim" posts started to spread out like a virus. ::) I mean the best thing I learned from the BBS is that it makes a BIG deal for gameplay if you name your sim Cynthia instead of Cindy! :o

So of course you need to consult other simmers about this huge dilemma since your game will explode into a big fiery ball visible from space if God forbid! you give your sim the "wrong" name. And of course you need to give the fellow simmers lot's of "benes" cause they helped you save your game from ultimate doom! ::)

Ah..so glad we have the BBS to help us out with these important issues.... So what do you guys think is the BESTEST namo for my female simo? I was thinking Betty but maybe it would trigger the jump bug to appear... BTW..I already tried "boolprop" to fix this... And I don't use hacks, they are evil..possesed by satan himself! ::)

If you uninstall your game and burninate your hacks then reinstall the game and type sheepzR2Kewl then the game chooses a name for you.

LMAO  ;D I bet if you post this on the BBS some will actually TRY it out! ;D

Edit: Try it out and start a new thread on how great this works! :o Asking for "benes"

And all this time I thought it was ALT-F4 that chose a new name. :D

Hint:  don't try this at home.

Hook

Blimey, would alt F4 even work on the sims? The sims seems to take over my PC when it's running. Absentmindedly I did ctrl alt del the other night instead of ctrl shift C, the poor windows task manager made a valient attempt to appear on top of sims, I got this weird flickering effect until I alt tabbed out of the sims and could see what the flicker was.

of course they would believe that :D remember these are the same people Who belived the TwinzR2cute was a cheat to get twins in your game and those people had thier sim ladies eating piles of cookies and spaghetti to get twins and then couldnt figure out 1) why only one baby was born and 2) why their formerly slender sim had the baby and still looked pregnant.. from time to time those ame hapless people show back up on the BBS asking for a twins cheat that works and offering bene's by the bucketful if you'll just give them the code that really works :P

This is the truth. This game is the hungriest thing I have ever had on my pc.

Hey, I remember buying into that whole twins and spaghetti thing.  I wouldn't have, though, if it hadn't been a Maxoid themselves who said it was the real deal.  Even so, eating spaghetti my sims started popping twin set after twin set!  In reality, my game always runs like that.  I may go along for 10 or more births with no twins, then all of a sudden two or three sets in a neighborhood.

Of course, the above and other reasons is why I DON'T use the same name here as I do on the BBS. ;)  At least here I can sometimes APPEAR halfway intelligent.  :D

a lot of people bought into it  but the sad thing is  alot of BBS posters still biy into it in spite of the fact its been  stated numerous times there are no valid cheat codes to get twins

Well, whatever name you choose, you willl eventually find it's been hi-jacked by the game and whatever neighbourhood you play there will be a townie/dormie/NPC with "your" name!

ROFL ;D

In my new install, I'm just about sick of Zaitrarrios!  I wonder how many Zaitrarrios there are in the whole of the US?

Since the game in Europe wastes an enormous number of MBs anyway, why can't the game generate names for each separate language, so for instance in the UK it would only generate English names and Last names - the player could then add ethnic variations if they wish!  And why can't there be a limit on the number of times a combination can be used, like there can be up to 5 Sophies, no limit on last names, but there can only be one Sophie Gonzaga!  (And Prof. should not count as a name!)

How many Ivy Copurs, Calista Desprets, and Edith Centowskis do you need?

My game seems to be giving me a lot of Harris' and Lawsons lately.

1 of each would suffice

These are some of the names I have seen since NL. Yuk! I forgot to install Jordi's name package before I installed NL. :(

Kacper Jitmakusol
Hayden Olshfski
Gvaudoin Tricou
Fricorith Tricou
Jihoon Roennigke
and of course bloody Goopy Gils Garbo which I just cannot stand!

I've learned that if you take the time to post factual helpful answers then you'll end up with tire tread marks across your back from the simmers posting whatever answer fancies them at the time just to get the post out first and get the bene.

Since I learned of the all persuasive power of the bene system I've tried to incorporate it into my dealings with my 10 year old.  For some reason they have no effect in real life.   ::)

Notice the Tricou's are all Dead

No I hadn't, I just noticed those names in particular when I was scrolling through simpe.

Gvaudoin, Fricorith and Rainelle are the ghosts that haunt the House of Fallen Trees lot

Oh. Making it quite obvious I haven't played the house of the fallen trees.  ::) I've been meaning to go and have a look at it again since I read about the extensive basements.

I have never played that lot isnt it in the downtown? in nightlife?

Yep. It's on the edge of town - near the cemetary.

The funny part is, answering a question almost never gets a bene, even for the first poster and even if they are promised... and in a few cases, even if the original poster *says* he gave a bene.  This used to be obvious back when the bene count was displayed with every post.  Now, bene counts didn't always update right away, but when three other people have posted *after* someone said they gave benes, the count should have shown.

Hook

Yes I think that is funny as well.  I never cared for benes they give me the worse heartburn.  But I know I used to could get up to 20 + questions a day that I helped with and rarely got a bene, but I did get the satisfaction of knowing that I solved someone's problem. 

My favorite reward was if they came back or signed my GB to tell me it worked.  Those are even more rare but made it worth the trouble.

A peeve of mine were the posters offering a bene for an answer.  Kind of made it seem like a dog trick.  If I answered I told them to keep it and pass it to someone else.

On a side note Hook.  Although registered I didn't become active on the Sims 2 site until last spring and missed the original crew that was there.  When I started seeing your name more and more and how helpful you were I made an inquiry because I saw that you were rarely around.  Another Simmer told me that you had moved on to forums of a different caliber and that's how I stumbled across MATY.  Not because you were here specifically but because I was looking for better quality forums.  So though you probably have no idea who I am I thought I would let you know you are partially responsible for getting me to flock here. 

I have never begged for 'benes'. I simply did(and still do on the increasing rare occasions that I post on the BBS) my best to help. Sometimes I get benes sometimes I don't. I've always considered bene beggers to be a lower life form equal to the level of pond scum.

I found my way to Modthesims2 in December and I chatted there for some time and that's where I first encountered the Awesome  Fish Guy. Eventually I drifted away from there and by the time I got back they'd started using the new layout which i hate, so I ultimately found my way here.

I have to agree I hate the new layout at MTS2 as well

The BBS was the first forum I'd ever participated in.  The most valuable lesson I've learned is to read the rules and lurk awhile before I post so I can get a feel for what's ok, and what's not.  Pretty much everyone at the BBS knows that giving out information to adult content is forbidden.  Gettting a ban for linking or giving out info on any means to remove the censor blur should have been a no-brainer.  Giving out links to MATY or VS in a non-adult content context is ok.

I noticed that too.  I counted all my benes and posts once a long time ago, and I was surprised how few of my posts got a bene.  Maybe 18%.  Now not all of my posts were answers, but still, it was apparent that many people just don't give out benes (or use them up right away).  I think Maxis' intentions were noble, but the BBS community didn't buy the vision, and just obsessed over their rank.  Now, 30-50% of the threads feel the need to advertise benes just to get a response.

Talking about oddities in SimPE - have you noticed (a) that all Downtown sim adults in the Garth household have been to Uni?  (No degree, they've just been! and b) the only friends they have are among the dormies and SS members at Uni!  They live in a household full of sims, and don't know any of them, unless they have to collect one of the kids from someone's house after school!

acctually ever since I installed Uni all adult NPCs and townies have apparently been there not just the downtownies. But I did notice that many downtownies have friends among the dormies.

I think you'll find they all do - I've just spent ages going through all of them as I've moved most of them into lots and wanted them to start without all these additionel helpers, just like my downtrodden CAS sims!  Now they haven't been to Uni, and they don't have any friends there, unless they happen to have got to know one of the Garth teens that I've moved across to Uni, which has only happened when they've been on the lot where i've moved them out at the same time.  (Did it this way with a lot of the teens so they could get scholarships!)