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1  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Analysis of 'Apartment Life' spells and Latin. on: 2008 October 08, 21:19:17
Anyway, it's all very interesting.  However, it seems one can understand the pseudo-derived-not-quite-Latin well enough to figure out the spells, so I'm not seeing a problem.  Admittedly this could annoy the Latin purist, but I suspect the spell book was made with a nod (if not a full fall over bow attempt) to Harry Potter, not to any true Latin text of note.

Except that in this case, the Latin purist doesn't actually know any Latin.

If that's aimed at me, I never claimed to be a Latin purist, or an expert. I said very clearly that I was not.
2  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Analysis of 'Apartment Life' spells and Latin. on: 2008 October 08, 20:10:31
breyerii, some of your corrections work, but others...not so much.

For example:

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Spiritus Poultria - Spirtus is real Latin. It means 'breath', 'life' and 'spirit'. Poultria refers to Latin "pullus", which means chicken.

This is pushing it, I think. Poultria is obviously a fake Latin version of 'poultry', and you'd really have to stretch to get that out of "pullus"  Wink

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Corruptus Locus - Locus is real Latin. It means 'location' and 'place', amongst others. Corruptus is the past participle of "corrumpere", to corrupt.

As I said, I can't find corruptus anywhere, and I looked in almost a dozen sources. I believe you though.

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Inflammo - I didn't think it would be, but this is in fact REALLY a Latin word, meaning 'I set on fire'

Every one of my sources says either "to set on fire" or just "set on fire", not "I". Still, I'll give you this.

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Serventus Attackum - No real Latin here, unless one takes into consideration "servus", which means slave.

While not stretching it as much as the poultry example above, it's still kinda pointless to correct. Servantus is obviously fake-Latin for 'servant', just taking the current English word and sticking 'us' on the end of it, as is common.

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Tabula Rasa - As mentioned elsewhere, this is indeed genuine Latin, meaning 'blank tablet'.

Okay. Now this is just quibbling over semantics.   Roll Eyes

'Slate' and 'tablet' mean the same thing, and pretty much every source you look at will give you both definitions for tabula, as well as 'board', 'plank', and several other related words.

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Tempus Interruptus - As most of you probably know, tempus is the Latin word for 'time'. Interruptus, on the other hand, is participle of "interrumpere", to break off. Why would it be so often associated with coitus, otherwise?

Oh, maybe because they both end with the 'us' sound.   Wink

As with the chicken and servant examples above, it appears to be a matter of them just taking an English word and attaching 'us' to it to give it a faux-Latin sound. Don't over analyze these things.  Tongue

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Benemoodus Simae - This one is purely made up also of the Latin adverb "bene".

As I said, I didn't even think of the adverb 'bene', for some strange reason.   Undecided

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Creatum Insecto Volucris - take a participle of "creare", create, pig-Latinize the plural of "insectum", insect (which would be "insecta"), add "volucris" (flying being) and you have, ‘create flying insects'

I can't find volucris anywhere. I'll accept that, though.

Creatum seems to be just a faux-Latin version of 'Create'.

And insecto is the same, although why they didn't just use 'insectum' is beyond me.

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Compello Acceptus - As with it's dark counterpoint, both words are real Latin. Compello meaning 'I compell' or 'force', and Acceptus meaning ‘received, accepted'. So, basically, 'compel to accept.'

Every source I have gives the translations I gave.  Tongue I'll accept that, though.
3  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Re: Analysis of 'Apartment Life' spells and Latin. on: 2008 October 08, 19:26:30
I believe that "bene" is a latin prefix meaning "well" or "favorable".  So, Benemoodus is only partially made up.

You're correct, it is. Strange that I didn't even think of that. Ah well.

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Edit to add from dictionary definitions:
"delet-" is Latin - past participle of  delere "blot out, efface"
"Remedium" is Latin for medicine which is close to the "Remedis"
"Interrupt" is Latin - past participle of  interrumpere "break apart" & rumpere "to break"
"Ex" is a Latin prefix meaning "out"

I didn't count those as I was focusing primarily on whole words, not so much prefixes, or words that had been changed slightly from the Latin. But, you are right.

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"Corruptus" is Latin - past participle of corrumpere "break completely" & rumpere "to break"

That's odd. None of my Latin sources mention corruptus at all. And I have several.

I believe you, I just can't find it at all. Strange.

I'm pretty sure "tempus interruptus" is modeled after "coitus interruptus".


It probably is, but interruptus is not a Latin word, so it doesn't count.   Wink
4  TS2: Burnination / The Podium / Analysis of 'Apartment Life' spells and Latin. on: 2008 October 08, 17:57:01
I was reading the discussion about the 'bad Latin' on the 'List of Spells' thread, and while the comments made sense, I still wanted to see if there was validity to them.

While I neither read nor speak Latin, and am not an expert, I do work with several old languages a lot, including Latin. (I'm a writer trying to publish a fantasy comic book, but that's a point for another time).

So, I dug out my Latin-to-English dictionary and websources, and translated them. Yes, I know. I have too much time on my hands.

I'll take it spell by spell here, divided up by alignment.

Dark Spells:

Spiritus Poultria - Spirtus is real Latin. It means 'breath', 'life' and 'spirit'. Poultria is NOT Latin, however, being a made-up word.

Mellifera Attackum - As Pescado mentioned on the other thread, Mellifera is the scientific (and by extension, Latin) word for Honeybee. Attackum, on the other hand, has no Latin basis.

Corruptus Locus - Locus is real Latin. It means 'location' and 'place', amongst others. Corruptus is a made up word.

Inflammo - I didn't think it would be, but this is in fact REALLY a Latin word, meaning 'to set on fire'

Heavus Ho - Not a single word of real Latin in the spell. Not surprisingly.

Compello Discrepo - BOTH words are genuine Latin. In this case, the entire phrase means roughly 'force to disagree'

Serventus Attackum - No real Latin here.

Tabula Rasa - As mentioned elsewhere, this is indeed genuine Latin, meaning 'blank slate'.

Extractum Amorus - This one is tricky. Extractum is real Latin, surprisingly. It means 'extract' or 'remove'. Amorus, while not real Latin, IS actually close to the real Latin word for love, which is Amor. Very close to being real Latin, actually.

Vivificus Zombiae -  Vivificus is a real Latin word which means 'life-giving' or 'life-restoring'. Zombiae, of course, is NOT Latin. Unsurprisingly, as the word zombie is of Caribbean origin.

Neutral Spells:

Aqua Deletus - Aqua means 'water' in Latin, so this word is real. Deletus, on the other hand, is NOT Latin.

Cleanius Corpus  - While Cleanius is a fake word, Corpus is a genuine Latin word that means 'body'.

Folium Deletus - Folium is a real Latin word meaning 'leaf'. As said, Deletus is made up

Corpus Athleticus & Corpus Fleshicas - As mentioned, the only real Latin word here is Corpus.

Magivestigium - This one is interesting. Vestigium is a real Latin word meaning 'footstep', 'trace' and 'mark'. The Magi prefix... well, we will get to that later.

Creatum Nutrimens - This phrase sounds fake, but in fact, while creatum is a made up word, nutrimens is actually a real Latin word meaning 'food' or 'nourishment'.

Expello Simae - Expello is a genuine Latin word, meaning 'banish' or 'expell'. Simae, of course, is not a real Latin word, but I like it and think it a creative word for a Sim.

Appello Cattus Amicus - All real Latin words, meaning roughly 'Appear', 'Cat', and 'Friend', respectively.

Purgomagus - I'll tackle this in two halves. First half, Purgo. This is a real Latin word meaning 'cleanse'. 'purify', 'clear away' and 'wash off'. So far, so good. The second half, magus... Well, stay tuned.

Appello Simae - As established, Simae is fake. But, appello is a real Latin word meaning 'to call' or 'to summon'

Magus Mutatio - Finally, we tackle Magus, which is the genuine Latin word for 'magic'. Mutatio is also a real Latin word, meaning 'change' or 'transform'. So, 'Magical Change'.

Tempus Interruptus - As most of you probably know, tempus is the Latin word for 'time'. Interruptus, on the other hand, has no Latin basis.

Good Spells:

Benemoodus Simae - This one is purely made up...

Creatum Insecto Volucris - As is this one. None of these words are real Latin.

Beautificus Locus - As established above, Locus means 'Location'. Beautificus, on the other hand, is made up.

Exflammo - Unlike Inflammo, this is purely made up.

Remedis Simae - Purely made up.

Compello Acceptus - As with it's dark counterpoint, both words are real Latin. Compello meaning 'compell' or 'force', and Acceptus meaning 'welcome' or 'agreeable' So, basically, 'compel to agree.'

Appello Servantus - Appello, as established, means 'to summon'. Servantus is, however, not Latin

Benemoodus Populus - While benemoodus is purely made up, Populus is, of course, genuine Latin, meaning 'the people'

Mactoamicus - Once again, in two halves. First, macto. This is a genuine Latin word meaning 'to magnify', 'glorify', among others. Amicus is, as established, Latin for 'friend'.

Expello Mortis - Both genuine Latin. Expello meaning 'banish' or 'expel', and Mortis meaning 'death'. So, 'expel death'


All in all, most of the spells actually use genuine Latin. EAxis didn't do as bad as I originally thought in this department. Almost every spell contained at least one genuine Latin word, who's meaning roughly corresponds to the spell. Far more than I originally though. I'm actually mildly impressed with something they did for once. Still, it would have been nice to have ALL Latin words.

So, there you go. My analysis, culled from me being bored and having nothing better to do with my time.
5  Serious Business / Spore Discussions / Re: MASSIVE SECURITY HAZARD in Spore! on: 2008 June 20, 17:29:14
After the whole SecuROM fiasco, I expected something like this would happen. That's the reason I've not uploaded any creature I've created onto the internet, and also set my firewall to block the Spore Creature Creator from communicating with the internet at all.

Stupid EAxis.
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